In a message dated 98-07-28 17:08:37 EDT, you write: > I want to comment on > the fact that many people did not have John as the first born child of > Benjamin Geiger and Caterina but our family has an original confirmation > certificate for him listing them as his parents and his birth record is in > the Hill Church. Yes, many charts do not list your John as a child of Benjamin and Caterina--but that is only because they have not made the link between the Benjamin who was in North Annville in 1798 having John bapt. at Quitopahilla (Hill) Church. Your private confirmation record of the same John years later in Westmoreland County and referring to his bapt. in North Annville is proof they are the same family. This migration record also makes it much easier to see that he is also the Benjamin you cite in your chart born in 1777 in Berks County. I am working on establishing whether Benjamin's brother Charles may also have migrated to western PA and may well be Charles Kiger of Greene County. We shall see if the facts bear that out. The only think I would comment on in your chart is that I have never seen the spelling Ettlingen--always Ittlingen for the town in Northern Kraichgau from which the Geigers emigrated. Joan