Joan, I am questioning the John Geiger b.1818 first listed as the son of Richard Geiger and Mary. There are church and census records for the rest of the children, but so far I have found nothing to prove him as their son. In fact, the 1850 census lists this(?) John Geiger as a Jr. There is another John Geiger in the Southampton 1850 & 1840 census. (See below) Perhaps he is the father. At this point in time, I don't know what to do with John b.1818. John Geiger, Josiah Geiger, Richard Geiger and Samuel Geiger appear on a September 26, 1847 list of members of the Lutheran Church. Could they be brothers? OR what could be their relationship? Perhaps in the answer there will be a key to Richard's father. I am not sure what to do next. A trip to the National Archives in Fort Worth? I may have sent some of this info before but here it is again. 1850 census of Southampton Twp., Somerset County, PA., lists Richard Geiger (age 60), Mary (age 50), George (25), Henry (23), John (21), Elias (19), Aaron (18), Benjamin (17), Elizabeth (16), Jonathan (14), Catherine (12), and Mary (9). Richard was a farmer and listed as blind. In the 1850 census, Richard Geiger is listed as living in dwelling number 12. 1840 census of Southampton Twp. Somerset County, PA, list Richard Geiger with 1 male under 5 years, 2 males 5-10 years, 2 males 10-15 years, 2 males 15-20 years, 1 male 50-60 years, 2 females under 5 years, 1 female 5-10 years, 1 female 30-40 years, and 1 female 60-70 years. In the 1850 census Southampton Township, PA. lists John Geiger Jr. age 32, Rebecca age 32, Solomon age 3, Mary E. age 2 and Metilda C. age 10 months all of whom were born in PA. John is a laborer. They are listed as living in dwelling number 13. In the 1850 census, Southampton Township, PA. lists: John Geiger age 56, Josiah Geiger age 21, Mary E. Gieger age 23, Simon Gieger age 11 months, and Noah Albright age 13. They are living in dwelling number 8. In the birth and baptism records of Grace White Oak Church, Josiah Gieger and Mary were parents of Simon b. Aug 30, 1849 Baptised November 4, 1849. Noah Albrecht was was born Dec. 29, 1836 to Jacob Albrecht and Elizabeth, sponsors were John Geiger and Ester. (interesting to note) In the 1840 census Southampton PA, John Geiger* is listed with 2 males 10-15, male 15-20, 1 male 20-30, 1 male 50-60, 2 females 15-20, 1 female 50-60. *There is no John Geiger Jr.listed in the 1840 Southampton PA census. Carol