Hi, Glenda Sue and all: Anne Hammond Connell of Winter Park, FL, here. I'm new to the group. I'm descended from your Abe's brother, Felix, and Mary Martin (sister of Mercy Martin), through John Martin Geiger and Emily Joyner (Wayne Co., GA, to FL). About that Weber Heresy thing: I have been collecting articles as I come across them, but I don't have them separated into a file yet. So this is from my memory. Apparently, a mentally unbalanced couple named Weber, in the Saxe-Gotha or Orangeburg District of SC, persuaded a few similar folks that they were Jesus and Mary. They named another man as Satan and killed him. The authorities arrested them and two others, one of which was a John (I think) Geiger whom no one has been able to identify. Weber was executed and the others released. Every story I read seems to feed on the last and even brand different Geigers, even poor Abraham and Hans Ulrich, but I've yet to find proof that anyone was "banished" from SC. Since the L.D. Geiger Bible says Abe died 7 May 1766 and Ulrich applied to GA in July, 1766 for permission to remove to GA with wife, two children and one slave, for purpose of farming, I believe Abe died in SC (if the Bible date is correct). Ulrich settled near the Ebenezer community founded by the rest of their Swiss group (who hadn't chosen to go to Saxe-Gotha). Bottom line: too many people have written irresponsible things over the years and much damage has been done to our family name. Example: At a conference in Augusta, GA, I attended the lecture of a well-known publisher. He mentioned the Geiger/Kyger name as an example of how names can be misspelled. So, in the Q & A session, I prefaced my question by saying that the Geigers were one of my lines. He reared back and said, "Ah, the infamous Geigers of SC! Oh, well, I guess there were maybe a few that weren't so bad!" Everyone was appalled - and I was so furious I couldn't trust myself to reply. Not a word about all the community and church leaders, educators, Rev. soldiers, etc., they produced. I digress! I will try to write more later if have time. I had been planning a book on the Gyger/Geiger family from Switzerland to the South, but think I'd better begin with one on the Swiss roots only. I have records from the 1500's, with most collaterals, to when they left. They are still being translated, but already show that from the beginning, the Gygers were mostly vintners and leaders of their church and communities. Their vineyards are still growing on the slopes of the Rheingau around and above Haslach, Berneck, Widnau, Diepoldsau, etc.! A thrilling sight! Hope this helps for now. Anne