I have been looking for Richard Geiger (b.1790) and had problems in finding information. The tape of the Grace White Oak Church records from the LDS did not provide the "Richard" information I was looking for --- or did it? Upon looking past the name Richard, several things came into view. Not knowing if this could be my answer, I did what came naturally --- asked Joan. She requested that I post my question and information on the rootsweb. Her answer follows. Joan , Diedrich Geiger and Maria's children, listed below, match with the 1850 census in both names and birth dates . Could Diedrich and Richard be the the same? Richard's wife is listed as Maria and Mary. (see below) Births and Baptisms Grace White Oak Church, German Reformed & Lutheran, Southampton & Greenville Twps., Somerset County, PA The first record baptisms were those of July 18, 1830, when seven children were baptized: Hiram Beal, John Beal, John Crosby, Harriet Diehl, William Dulong, William Aaron Geiger and Aaron Wilhehm. Lucinda b. 10-23-1861 Aron Geiger (text - only one a) Elizabeth. b. 5-19-1834 Diedrich Geiger & Maria Jonathan Albert b. 4-24-1836 Diedrich Geiger & Maria Catherine Anne b. 11-25-1838 Deidrich Geiger & Maria Marianna b. 11-30-1840 Deidrich Geiger & Maria (Sponsor Marianne Geiger) Henry A. b. 4 1834 George Geiger & Elizaabeth George Washington b. 7-18-1836 Henry Geiger & Susanna Elias b. 7-1-1828 Henry Geiger & Susanna Sally b. 3-19-1830 Henry Geiger & Susanna Henry b. 8-29-1831 Henry Geiger and Susanna Esra b. 11-2-1869 Henry Geiger and Mary Edith Amanda b. 7-22-1883 Herman B. Geiger & Harriet Solomon George b. 6-13-1846 Herman B Geiger & Harriet Solomon b. 11-13-1846 John Geiger and wife Mary Ellen b. 4-27-1848 John Geiger and Rebecca Matilda Catherine b. 10-10-1849 John Geiger and Rebecca Lydai b. 10-13-1851 John Geiger and wife Geo. Washington b. 1-24-1861 John Geiger and wife Simon b. 8-30-1849 Josiah Geiger and Mary Sarah Esther b. 2-20-1851 Josiah Geiger and Mary Charles b. 12-15-1852 Josiah Geiger and Mary Herman b. 9-18-1855 Josiah Geiger and Mary Amaline Rebecca b. 5-9-1858 Josiah Geiger and Mary Wm. Aaron b. 11-4-1829 Richard Geiger and Mary Benj. Harman b. 11-4-1831 Richard Geiger and Maria *Grace, White Oak, is one of the older congregations of Somerset Classis. The ground upon which the first church was erected was deeded in 1825 to George Long, John Albright and Christian Shockey, Jr., trustees of the Lutheran and Presbyterian congregation. The deed was executed by "John Wells and Mary, his wife, pursuant to a promise made by the said John Wells to sundry citizens of Southampton and Greenville on or about the 3rd of Feb, 1819." It would appear that a congregation was in existence as early as 1819. The first place of worship was a schoolhouse erected on the plank road east of Wittenberg, and was used by reformed and Lutheran Congregations until 1847. The early records refer to the congregation as Reichards. In 1891 the Lutherans withdrew and erected their own house of worship. *From a part of a sketch by Rev. J. E Gindelsperger Carol Oh boy! I will bet it IS him--you know I HAD mentioned that there were NOT very many Richard Geigers!!! That sure explains it. Please post that to the Geiger list--what a great lesson on how given names can vary and become Americanized. What an exciting discovery!!! Joan