In a message dated 98-06-13 20:26:24 EDT, you write: > I have found a reference (another researchers notes) to a John, born 2 Oct > 1803 in Martinsburg, VA, died 4 Oct 1881 in Camden, IN who married a > Susannah > Hartner in 1827 and had 3 sons, 1 daughter being the son of Anthony Geiger ( > b. > 29 Oct 1776, MD) and Mary Kirk. The dates and places for that John and my > John are too similar to ignore however, there are some inconsistencies, the > biggest being his wife. It is possible Susannah was my John�s first wife. > Any help with this line would be appreciated. Beth, I think we should point out (and I know you are already aware of this) that the John Geiger you refer to above who married Mary Kirk is the son of Anthony Geiger, who in turn is the son of Jacob Geiger and Elizabeth Schultz. Jacob is the son of Valentine Geiger, Jr. and his first wife Sarah Vetato/Wedato of Bucks County (now Northampton County) Pennsylvania. This is the Geiger family I refer to as the Henckel-Geiger family in view of their close relationship with the family of Rev. Anthony Jacob Henckel who arrived in America in 1717 along with 2 Geiger brothers (a third came later) to New Hanover Township in what is now Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. One of those 2 brothers to arrive in 1717 was Valentine Geiger, Sr. father of Valentine, Jr. named above. Valentine, Sr.'s first wife (from whom Valentine, Jr. descends) is Johanna Frederica Henckel, daughter of Rev. Anthony Jacob Henckel. Valentine's brother Johann Georg Geiger was married to another daughter of Rev. Henckel. This Geiger family came to America from Ittlingen, Northern Kraichgau, Germany. > .............2 Abraham Kiger b: 1812 in IN d: 2 September 1886 in Stuart, > Kansas > .................+Matilda Collins Henthorne b: Abt 1817 in IN m: Abt > 1832 d: > 12 Feb 1893 in MO (prob) I also want to point out (although this is not Beth's direct line) that this Kiger (not to be confused with Beth's Geigers) family had at least the one intermarriage with the Henthorn/Henthorne family and if you will look back at the information Kay Bolls posted earlier about HER Kygers--her ancestor Daniel Kyger married Anna Henthorn. We have established that these two Henthorn/Henthornes were from the same family (although separated by some years) which could indicate a connection between these two Kiger/Kyger families who originated in roughly the same geographic area. We are all looking to either prove or disprove that possibility. Joan