Since we are introducing ourselves, I am Beth Garland and I live in San Antonio, Texas (transplanted from central Indiana). I have Geigers on my father�s side and Kigers on my mothers side (my tree may not fork much!). So far the family lines haven't connected but you never know.... My earliest known Geiger is John Geiger. 1 JOHN GEIGER b: 2 October 1803 in VA (what is now W. VA) d: 4 October 1880 in Jay Co., IN +RUTH KELSO b: 17 Jan 1816 in Licking Co., OH m: in Licking Co., OH d: 25 Feb 1901 in Trenton, Blackford Co., IN ......... 2 SARAH E. GEIGER b: 9 October 1833 in Licking Co.,Ohio d: 14 Nov 1911 in Greene Twip, Jay Co. , IN ............. +EDWIN HUDSON b: 18 Dec 1828 in Franklin Co., Ohio m: 8 Dec 1850 in Jay Co., IN d: 5 July 1897 in Green Twp, Jay Co., IN ......... 2 Jacob Geiger b: 3 Feb 1836 in Licking Co., OH d: 1922 ............. +Phebe Emily Whitacre b: 1831 in Ohio m: 27 March 1862 in Jay Co., IN d: 8 April 1911 in Greene Twp, Jay Co., IN ......... 2 Joseph Geiger b: ABT 1839 in Licking Co., Ohio d: Bef 14 November 1911 ............. +Nettie Ledbetter b: ABT 1851 in Licking Co., Ohio ......... 2 John Geiger b: 18 October 1840 in Ohio d: 28 March 1905 in Knox Township, Jay Co., IN ............. +Mary C. ? b: 22 April 1848 in IN d: 23 June 1902 ......... 2 Abraham Geiger b: ABT 1845 in IN d: Bef 14 November 1911 ............. +Mary E. McLaughlin b: ABT 1841 in Ohio m: 26 January 1868 in Jay Co., IN d: 25 April 1912 in Jay Co., IN ......... 2 William H. Geiger d: Bef 14 November 1911 John and Ruth were in Jay County, IN in 1841. The 1880 census gives Virginia as the birthplace of John and Ruth�s parents. John and Ruth are my 3rd great- grandparents on my father�s side. I have found a reference (another researchers notes) to a John, born 2 Oct 1803 in Martinsburg, VA, died 4 Oct 1881 in Camden, IN who married a Susannah Hartner in 1827 and had 3 sons, 1 daughter being the son of Anthony Geiger (b. 29 Oct 1776, MD) and Mary Kirk. The dates and places for that John and my John are too similar to ignore however, there are some inconsistencies, the biggest being his wife. It is possible Susannah was my John�s first wife. Any help with this line would be appreciated. My earliset Kiger is John Kiger, Sr. (I use the Kiger with an "i" spelling since most of my line spelled it that way). Descendants of JOHN KIGER, SR 1 JOHN KIGER, SR b: Abt 1775 in VA? d: Aft 1832 in Hancock Co., IN .. +SARAH J. PARRISH b: Abt 1775 in VA m: 13 January 1791 in Maysville, Mason Co., KY d: Aft 1831 in Rush Co., IN .............2 Nancy V. Kiger b: 1793 in KY d: 1889 in Tipton Co., IN .................+William Simmonds m: 10 January 1810 in Dearborn Co., IN .............2 Daniel Kiger b: 6 March 1807 d: Bef 1884 .................+Charity Lines b: 31 August 1810 m: 15 November 1827 in Rush Co., IN d: 1880 .............2 JOHN KIGER, JR b: 1808 in Ohio d: 1845 in Hancock Co., IN .................+SARAH GWINNUP b: 25 Dec 1811 in OH m: 5 Feb 1830 in Rush Co., IN d: 19 Jan 1903 in Hancock Co., IN .............2 Mary Kiger .................+Joseph King m: 18 November 1830 in Rush Co., IN .............2 Adam Kiger d: 1857 in Howard Co., IN .............2 Abraham Kiger b: 1812 in IN d: 2 September 1886 in Stuart, Kansas .................+Matilda Collins Henthorne b: Abt 1817 in IN m: Abt 1832 d: 12 Feb 1893 in MO (prob) John and Sarah are my 4th great-grandparents on my mother�s side. The Kiger researchers (Joan Young, Vonda Cooper, et al) have recently helped flesh this line out. Now to find John�s parents (and Sarah�s too)�. Scot Shively (Sshiv999@aol.com) is my brother. Our family research is a joint effort and our annual genealogy research trip (this year to Ohio/Pennsylvania and anywhere else we have time for) is only about 4 weeks away! We would appreciate hearing from anyone interested in these lines. For the other lines we are researching, see my web page at http://members.aol.com/bgar134/roots.htm. Beth Shively Garland Bgar134@aol.com