In a message dated 1/8/2005 5:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, himrey@ntelos.net writes: 3. Aaron Spencer Fogleman, Hopeful Journeys: German Immigration, Settlement, and Political Culture in Colonial America, 1717-1775 (Philadelphia PA: Univ. of PA Press, 1996). Again, a very complete set of references, from both sides of the Atlantic, arranged as primary sources, secondary-sources from the 19th-c., more-recent secondary-sources, etc. No specific Geiger-info, just clues about where to look in Baden-Württemberg. -- Harriet- This is a too often overlooked book that contains a GOLDMINE of information--although I'll be the first to admit it is a bit "text-bookish" and not at all something you'd want to take for light summer reading on the beach. <g> <<The Geigers-of-Ittlingen in the Kraichgau apparently left more legal records in Germany than their relatives in the adjacent parish of Berwangen. The Ittlinger-folks became international businessmen fairly early, and served as brokers for PA and SC Geigers (among others). They are included in Annette Kunselmann Burgert, Eighteenth Century Emigrants from German-Speaking Lands to North America, Vol. 1, The Northern Kraichgau. Publications of the PA German Society, Vol. 16, Breinigsville PA: The Pennsylvania German Society, 1983. Out-of-print and hard to find, but a lovely book! I finally found a copy, but it was so lovely that I didn't manage to write down the Geiger references before loaning it to a couple of German-born friends: they spotted the book while visiting, saw the picture of the exact place where they'd met, the place where they'd honeymooned, and the place where his father had taken canoe-trips down the Neckar. These "immediate" family-connections obviously trump my interest in Geigers of long-ago, so I loaned the book to my friends. Will update the Ittlingen-Geiger notes after they return it. >> This book IS very hard to find. I managed to pry the single copy Annette Burgert brought with her to the NGS conference in Pittsburgh two years ago out of her hands and buy it from her. <g> Lots of good GEIGER info in there copied from German church books. Joan