I'm sure I have a copy of the will somewhere, but it's not in my Coates file and I don't have time to go through my Dykes file. I believe it was in 1848 Lauderdale or Kemper Counties. No Geiger was mentioned as a spouse. Sorry, Gerry. But I do have some data on the Coates family and can take them back a couple of generations in SC. But it'll have to wait a few days. I'll be back on Superbowl Sunday and will get back to y'all then. Beverly Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Re: Dykes(Dikes) > Wow, Kim I never knew you had so much on this...anyway, I don't really > know from concrete evidence, but I do know that, strangely, Eleanor J. > Dikes/Dykes/Coates??? Gieger is not mentioned in the Zachariah Bible, > although she was the mother of his children...and her tombstone says > Eleanor J., wife of Zechariah(?). Martha Dikes IS listed in the Bible. > > I know that Lovey Gieger, w/o the late Kenneth Gieger(who is the grandson > of Jessie David Gieger of Hardin County TX) who descends from Abram M. > Gieger, Zachariah's brother, has been working on Mary T. Coats, who was > their grandmother...She recently relocated to New Zealand and may not be > back on-line yet, but I hope she sees this stuff and gets into the > discussion... > > You all work it out, and I will interject whenever I see something that I > know...I have the application of Mary T. (Coates) Gieger for a Civil War > Widow's Pension, and also his Roster stating he was K-I-A. Got it at the > MS State Archives. > > > >>From: "Kim" <ninalee@tecinfo.com> >>To: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com>, <rjohn@bayou.com> >>CC: <bzb@houston.rr.com>, <pwdarmo@yahoo.com>, <R.Gary.Leonard@mci.com>, >><ratclif@bayou.com>, <Loveyken@aol.com> >>Subject: Re: Dykes(Dikes) >>Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:12:04 -0600 >> >>I think you have your generations confused. Eleanor is not the child of >>Benjamin Franklin Dykes and Permelia/Permelius Gunter. They do not have a >>daughter by that name. >>Their children are : Benjamin Franklin, Amanda Ellen, George Allen, >>Annice >>Arnell (or Anis), Frances Melvina, James Wesley, Luther Candaris and >>Leanna >>Dykes. >> >>The date I believe that came from the Gieger bible for Eleanor Janes birth >>year was 1928. or I may have received that info from Beverly. The >>children >>of Benjamin and Martha are Benjamin was born (according to his headstone >>he >>was born June 8, 1835) but some info have the year 1833 and 1837. On his >>death certificate it lists Elizabeth Coates to be his mother. Sarah in >>c1836. George Washington in c1838. Martha in c1841. Cynthia in c1844. >>Now....back to the death certificate...maybe her name was Martha Elizabeth >>Coates or Elizabeth Martha Coates, or maybe Benjamin had been married >>before >>to Elizabeth Coates and Martha could have been her sister whom he married >>after. I don't know. Wesley Dykes who died several years ago gave me a >>copy of B.F. Dykes death certificate. >> >>In the 1850 census of Jasper Co. There is a Younger Welborn age 25 >>married >>to Elizabeth age 18. No children are listed. In my records I have a >>Younger Welborn born in 1825 married to Frances Gunter b. 1838. She is >>the >>d/o Allen and Elizabeth Gunter. Frances was also married to George >>Washington Dykes brother of Benjamin b. 1835. He was killed in the Civil >>War. They had 2 children Elizabeth and Matilda. I am not directly linked >>to the Welborn line, >>Now the Elizabeth mentioned in the 1850 census is supposedly Sara/Sarah >>Elizabeth Dykes, d/o Benjamin and Martha. That information I received >>from >>a decendant of Younger Welborn. After she died (before 1865) he married >>Frances Gunter Dykes after G.W. Dykes was killed. I am linked to the >>Gunter line because Allen was my 3rd great grandfather. There is also a >>Younger Welborn b. 1805/1808 who m. Elizabeth Bryant. Now to confuse you >>further....Sarah Dikes age 13 in also listed on the 1850 census of Jasper >>Co. the child of Martha and Benjamin. The Welborn researcher insists >>that >>she must be a sibling of his Elizabeth/Sara Elizabeth Dikes Welborn. Once >>again, I am thankful that is not my direct line. He also acknowledge the >>fact that Martha and Cynthia were living with Younger and Sara E. in the >>1860 Jones County census. Now.....where is the other Sarah Dikes/Dykes >>then >>and what happen to her? Maybe ....just maybe.....Younger was married to >>Elizabeth somebody first....she dies...then marries Sarah Dikes/Dykes who >>by >>the 1860 census would be 23. She dies and he marries Frances Gunter Dykes >>before 1870. That is my theory. So what happened to Cynthia/Cinthia ? >>In >>1860 she would have been 16...in 1862 Martha dies and is buried in >>Covington >>County, Cynthia would have been 18 that year. So did Cynthia stay with >>Sarah and Younger or did she move in with the Giegers? Maybe she went to >>live with another Dykes family. >> >>I strongly do not believe that Eleanor was the older sister of Frances >>Melvina Dykes for that would put an age difference of over 30 years >>between >>them. I agree with Beverly that she is the daughter of Martha whoever >>Dykes >>who married Benjamin Dykes. Now, if Benjamin isn't the father, I wish you >>luck on trying to figure that one out, because Martha and Benjamin are my >>3rd great grandparents most definitely. >> >>Looking at the age difference between Eleanor and Benjamin Franklin, I >>would >>agree with Beverly that Martha and Benjamin did not marry until the early >>1830's. I would take a wild guess and say c1832. >> >>Does anyone have a copy of Sion L. Coates will that names Martha in it? >>Also just a note, my late uncle Carrel Dykes had Martha Gieger listed in >>his >>research as being Benjamin's wife but only because she was buried next to >>them and not because he found any solid information to back that up. >> >>That is my information and insight for the subject....... >>Kim >> >> > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list send an e-mail to: > GEIGER-L-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or GEIGER-D-request@rootsweb.com > (digest mode) and put only one word--either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in > the subject and the body of the message. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >