Warren: You wrote: > A John Conrad Geiger supposedly married a Barbara Murff in about 1762. > He was a son of Herman and Elizabeth Habluetzel Geiger. Another son, > also named John, married an Ann or Emily Murff in about 1767. This union > produced a daughter, Emily Geiger, who married Llewellyn Threewits. > Emily Geiger was supposedly a Revolutionary War heroine. > > Other sources claim that Herman Geiger was married to a Margaretha > Gartman rather than Elizabeth. I'm not at all certain about any of this, > so if anyone out there has better information, I'd like to see it. Herman GEIGER and Elizabeth HABLÜZEL married in SWT, but my source of church records did not name his children. A news article I have says they brought two children. Both his monument and his will name her as his wife. I can't say who Margretha Gartman might be. Enclosed is what I have gathered on the marriages of his children, sifted from various sources, including his Memorial Stone, Percy Geiger, and A. S. Salley. You have caused me to look back at old files and make some changes - but I am still as confused and as unsure of the truth as anyone else about those Murff/Murph sisters. Anne C. in FL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DESCENDANTS OF HERMAN [1] GEIGER (Imm., Indian Agent) - 14 Feb 2001 FIRST GENERATION 1. HERMAN [1] GEIGER (Imm., Indian Agent) was born in Dec 1707 in Widnau, SG, Switzerland. He was christened on 9 Dec 1707 in Diepoldsau, SG, Switzerland. He immigrated on 1 Feb 1737 to Charleston, South Carolina. He died in 1751 in South Carolina. He was married to ELIZABETH (LISABET) HABLÜZEL of Trüllikon, KZ, SWT on 26 Feb 1734 in St. Gallen, Switzerland. ELIZABETH (LISABET) HABLÜZEL of Trüllikon, KZ, SWT was born on 25 Dec 1711 in Switzerland. She immigrated on 1 Feb 1737 to Charleston, South Carolina. She died in South Carolina. HERMAN [1] GEIGER (Imm., Indian Agent) and ELIZABETH (LISABET) HABLÜZEL of Trüllikon, KZ, SWT had the following children: 2 i. CATHERINA GEIGER was born in 1734 in St. Gallen, Switzerland. She died young in South Carolina. +3 ii. HANS CONRAD GEIGER. +4 iii. JACOB GEIGER. +5 iv. HERMAN [2] GEIGER. +6 v. ELIZABETH GEIGER. +7 vi. MARGARET GEIGER. +8 vii. JOHN GEIGER. SECOND GENERATION 3. HANS CONRAD GEIGER was born in 1736 in St. Gallen, Switzerland. He died about 1772 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He was married to BARBARA MURFF (daughter of JACOB MURFF SR. and ELIZABETH (_____)). HANS CONRAD GEIGER and BARBARA MURFF had the following children: +9 i. Maj. JACOB GEIGER. +10 ii. ANN GEIGER. +11 iii. ELIZABETH GEIGER. 4. JACOB GEIGER was born about 1737 in prob. South Carolina. He died in Aug 1772 or Sep 1772 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He was married to ANN (_____) before 1772 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. JACOB GEIGER and ANN (_____) had the following children: 12 i. JOHN GEIGER. 5. HERMAN [2] GEIGER was born about 1738 in prob. South Carolina. He died before 1790 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He was married to LAVINIA KAIGLER (daughter of ANDREW KAIGLER and KATY CAPPLEPOWER). LAVINIA KAIGLER was born in 1753 in South Carolina. HERMAN [2] GEIGER and LAVINIA KAIGLER had the following children: 13 i. ELIZABETH GEIGER. +14 ii. JOHN RANDOLPH GEIGER. 6. ELIZABETH GEIGER was born in prob. South Carolina. She was married to JOHN HORLBECK. ELIZABETH GEIGER and JOHN HORLBECK had the following children: 15 i. JOHN HORLBECK. 16 ii. HENRY HORLBECK. 7. MARGARET GEIGER was born in prob. South Carolina. She was married to (_____) BAUGHMAN. MARGARET GEIGER and (_____) BAUGHMAN had the following children: 17 i. ELIZABETH BAUGHMAN. 18 ii. MARY BAUGHMAN. 8. JOHN GEIGER was born on 8 Jan 1748 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He died on 18 Sep 1817 in Lexington Dist., South Carolina. He was buried in Old Tylor/Geiger Cem., Sandy Run, South Carolina. He was married to ANN MURFF (daughter of JACOB MURFF SR. and ELIZABETH (_____)) in 1767 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. ANN MURFF was born on 15 Apr 1742 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. She died on 10 Jul 1831 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. She was buried in Old Tylor/Geiger Cem., Sandy Run, South Carolina. JOHN GEIGER and ANN MURFF had the following children: +19 i. HARMAN GEIGER. +20 ii. Maj. ABRAHAM GEIGER. +21 iii. WILLIAM GEIGER. +22 iv. ELIZABETH GEIGER. +23 v. ANN (NANCY) GEIGER. THIRD GENERATION 9. Maj. JACOB GEIGER was born in 1763 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He died in 1801 near Ft. Granby, Lexington Dist., South Carolina. He was married to ANN CATHERINE BEARD (daughter of JONAS BEARD) before 1799. ANN CATHERINE BEARD died before 1799. He was married to DOROTHY KINSLER (daughter of Hon. JOHN KINSLER and MARY ANN DREHER) on 15 Jan 1799 in Ft. Granby, Lexington Dist., South Carolina. DOROTHY KINSLER was born in Jun 1771. She died on 27 Aug 1857. 10. ANN GEIGER. She was married to Maj. DANIEL TATEMAN. She was married to Capt. WILLIAM REA. Capt. WILLIAM REA was born on 14 Jul 1756 in Dundee, Scotland. ANN GEIGER and Capt. WILLIAM REA had the following children: +24 i. ANGES REA. +25 ii. ELIZABETH REA. She was married to Dr. JOHN J. MARTIN. 11. ELIZABETH GEIGER. She was married to ALEXANDER [1] BELL. ELIZABETH GEIGER and ALEXANDER [1] BELL had the following children: +26 i. JACOB BELL. +27 ii. HARRIET BELL. +28 iii. MARY BELL. +29 iv. JOHN C. BELL. +30 v. ALEXANDER [2] BELL. +31 vi. NANCY ANN BELL. 32 vii. DAVID BELL was born on 15 Jan 1799 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. 14. JOHN RANDOLPH GEIGER died on 18 Jan 1836 in Edgefield Co., South Carolina. He was born in South Carolina. He was married to ELIZABETH MURFF (daughter of JOHN MURFF) on 27 Mar 1796. ELIZABETH MURFF was born about 1777 in South Carolina. She died after 1850 in Jasper County, Georgia. JOHN RANDOLPH GEIGER and ELIZABETH MURFF had the following children: +33 i. HARMON HORLBECK GEIGER. +34 ii. SYLVIA GEIGER. 35 iii. JOHN JACOB GEIGER was born on 29 Dec 1801. +36 iv. MARY MARGULIA GEIGER. +37 v. WASHINGTON WHITFIELD GEIGER. +38 vi. SALOME GEIGER. 19. HARMAN GEIGER was born on 3 Jul 1769 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He died on 7 May 1852. He was married to SARAH SHARPE. SARAH SHARPE was born on 14 Oct 1786 in Virginia. She died on 25 Apr 1849. HARMAN GEIGER and SARAH SHARPE had the following children: +39 i. JOHN R. GEIGER. 20. Maj. ABRAHAM GEIGER was born about 1771 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He died on 14 Jan 1841 in Platt's Spring, Berkeley Co., South Carolina. He was married to DOROTHY KINSLER (daughter of Hon. JOHN KINSLER and MARY ANN DREHER) on 24 Oct 1802. DOROTHY KINSLER was born in Jun 1771. She died on 27 Aug 1857. Maj. ABRAHAM GEIGER and DOROTHY KINSLER had the following children: 40 i. JOHN WILLIAM GEIGER was born on 12 Sep 1803. He died in 1837 in Charleston, South Carolina. +41 ii. ANN CAROLINE GEIGER. +42 iii. ELIZABETH GEIGER. +43 iv. HENRY JACOB GEIGER. 44 v. ALEXANDER GEIGER. 21. WILLIAM GEIGER was born in 1773 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He died in 1855 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. He was married to MARGARET KERSH in 1794 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. MARGARET KERSH was born in 1782. She died on 21 Jun 1852 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. WILLIAM GEIGER and MARGARET KERSH had the following children: +45 i. JOHN CONRAD GEIGER. +46 ii. WILLIAM GEIGER. +47 iii. Dr. DAVID GEIGER. +48 iv. GODFREY HERMAN GEIGER Planter. +49 v. MARY ANN GEIGER. 50 vi. FRANKLIN GEIGER was born on 5 Jun 1813. He died on 24 Jul 1847. 51 vii. JACOB GEIGER was born on 8 Mar 1815. He died on 22 Dec 1882. +52 viii. ABRAHAM W. GEIGER. 53 ix. HENRY GEIGER was born about 1820 in South Carolina. He died in 1836. 54 x. CAROLINE ELVIRA GEIGER. 22. ELIZABETH GEIGER was born in 1776 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. She died in 1856 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. She was married to GEORGE KAIGLER (son of JOHN KAIGLER and CAROLINE LEITNER). GEORGE KAIGLER was born in 1772. He died in 1831. ELIZABETH GEIGER and GEORGE KAIGLER had the following children: +55 i. JOHN KAIGLER. +56 ii. GEORGE KAIGLER. +57 iii. CAROLINE KAIGLER. +58 iv. MARIA KAIGLER. +59 v. HARRIET KAIGLER. +60 vi. HENRIETTA KAIGLER. 23. ANN (NANCY) GEIGER was born in 1778 in Saxe Gotha Twp, Orangeburg Dist., South Carolina. She died after 1816. She was married to WILLIAM BAUGHMAN. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++