Welcome to the group, Joy. The name as we know it is HABLÜZEL, pronounced Hahb-luht-zle or Hahb-lert-zle, perhaps. It's a "t-z" sound in the middle and that "t" could indicate how your branch became "Hob-litt" ... which is a totally new name to me! The only HABLÜZEL I have in my data base is Elizabeth, wife of Herman GYGER - who was the son of Gov. Hans Jacob GYGER and Margaret FEHR of Canton St. Gallen, SWT. The name was changed to GEIGER when they came over to SC in 1737. My notes on Elizabeth: "Called Lisabet in Swiss marriage record (Feb. 26, 1734), but known as Elizabeth in America. The Andrea Files say her family came from Trüllikon, Canton Zurich, Switzerland, but didn't name her parents. The Lexicon der Schweitz says the Hablüzel family was prominent in Trüllikon as early as 1554. "An article in the State Newspaper, 13 April 1958, about the Herman Geiger Memorial Stone, gives her birthdate as 25 Dec 1711. It lists only two children: Catherina, born 1734, and Hans Conrad, born 1736. Says data came from Zurich, Switzerland, State Archives. If correct, it could indicate that only their first two children were born in Switzerland. Catherina is not listed on the Memorial stone. Nothing further on her." Sorry I can't help more. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Cooper <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: [GEIGER] seeking ancestors relatives og Elizabeth Habulzel > Hello, I am an ancestor of Elizabeth Habulzel, if she is the sister of Johann Michael Habulzel who came to Pa. in 17627, and later in 1764 on the ship "Chance", I have been reading the messages on the Geigers that has been sent by Gerry, Jan, Patsy, and Anne. The times coiside with some of my information. I am a ggggranddaughter of Johann M. Habulzel, now spelled Hoblitt or Hoblit, it has been changed 8 times down the line. I live in northern Wyo.I have most of the history on his lineage down; but; just recently found that his relatives came on a ship with him also, Gallman,Tom Haas, Geoge Haas,maybe Lawrence. I would be elated to find new relatives, we didn"t known about until now, I love genealogy, it is so interesting. We are also related to the Ky. Bennetts. I check my e-mail ever afternoon, I would love to hear from anyone connected to theGeigers,Gallmans, Smiths, Lawrences. I"m sure we are related. Have a great Memorial Day. Sincerely Anita Joy Hobllit, Cooper. >