I am assuming that you have seen a document with Ulrich's "mark" thus indicating that he couldn't write. Is this true? Nancy Geiger Ford ----- Original Message ----- From: To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: 5/25/2004 11:19:50 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Official copy: Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) Okay, see the problem I have is that "our" Abraham couldn't write, yet whoever transcribed the deed, left the impression that everyone signed and sealed the deed. So if there's THAT mistake, what others are there? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Connell" rconnell@cfl.rr.com To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: [GEIGER] Official copy: Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) Beverly, how often have we seen a truly "original" deed? This is my photocopy of the OFFICIAL COPY in "Deeds Mortgages, Book AAA, 1814-1819," on file at Bulloch County Courthouse, Statesboro, GA. That's why all the signatures are in same handwriting. If you look down at the bottom, you will see "Recorded January 28th, 1815. Ely Kennedy, CSCBC." It's Ely's handwriting! (The next deed below it (recorded __ 1815) has to do with a marriage contract between John LINES and Sarah Ann ROBINSON who, along with her father Jonathan ROBINSON, are later found in the records of Gadsden County, FL.) By the way, on the previous page is a second GEIGER deed I later found they hadn't copied for me. It's the one filed at same time, stating that the sibs have sold one-fifth or 60 acres of the original grant to brother John GEIGER. Signed: Felix GEIGER, Abraham GEIGER, Mary HOFMAN and Cornelius GEIGER (no wives). Page numbering is off and A. K. Register's "Bulloch Co., GA, Genealogical Source Material", p. 52, had mis-shown both deeds on same page. I will post her extract on the Message Board. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: bzb@houston.rr.com To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) Those are not the original deeds. They appear to be early copies. (If you'll notice, all of the signatures are made in one handwriting.) We really need to look at the originals, IF they still exist. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" giegerg@hotmail.com To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) If you look on the Geiger board, you will see three JPG files attached which are the three pages of the original Deed... From: bzb@houston.rr.com Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:17:42 -0500 I've always wondered about this deed. Has anyone seen the original? Does the original include "(or Geiger)" or did somebody add those words when they abstracted it? You can't believe how many times I've found significant differences between the hand-written original records and the published abstracts. ----- Original Message ----- From: giegerg@hotmail.com To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:50 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GEIGER, Kegar, Hoofman, Bunce Classification: Deed Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/892 Message Board Post: State of Georgia } This Indenture made the sixteenth day of January in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and fifteen and in the thirty ninth year of the Independence of the United States of America between John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mary[sic.Mercy] his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, all of the said State and County of Bulloch of the one part, and Christopher Frederick Bunce of the State and County aforesaid, planter of the other part; Witnesseth that the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, legal heirs of Ulrich Kegar (or Geiger) deceased for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred and fifty dollars to them in hand well and truly paid by the said Christopher Frederick Bunce, at or before the sealing and delivery of these instruments, the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged; They the said John Geiger! , Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, Have granted, bargained, sold, aliened, released and confirmed and by these presents do grant, bargain, sell, alien, release and confirm unto the said Christopher Frederick Bunce and to his heirs and assigns forever all that parcel of land being four fifths of a Tract originally on the second day of June, Anno Domini, one thousand [seven] hundred and sixty seven granted to Ulrich Kegar for three hundred acres the said four fifths of said tract of land containing agreeable to the Original grant, two hundred and forty acres and by an accurate resurvey thereof made the 2nd day of December 1814, three hundred and twenty acres as will more fully appear by reference to the platt of said resurvey hereunto annexed, Situate lying and being at the date of these presents in the said County on the south side of Great Ogechee River immediately above the flat ford! butting and bounding North East by the said river North West to land of Stephen Denmark, South West by land of Denmark and land of John Geiger and South East by residue of said tract containing one fifth part belonging to the said John Geiger, Together with all and singular, the houses, Buildings and improvements, Rents, Issues, Profits, Privileges, Commodities and all the right, Title, Interest, Inheritance, Property, Benefit, Claim and demand, whatsoever to the said four fifth's of the said tract of land and all appurtenances thereunto belonging or in any wise appertaining: to have and to hold the said four fifths of the said tract of land, and all and singular, the premises above mentioned with their and every of their rights, Members and appurtenances; together with all and singular, the writings touching or in any wise Concerning the Same to the only proper use and benefit and behoof of the said Christopher Frederick Bunce, his heirs and assigns forever, and the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius! Geiger and Rebecca his wife, Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, their Heirs, Executors and administrators, the said four fifths of the said tract of land, and premises above mentioned and all and every part and parcel thereof unto the said Christopher Frederick Bunce, his heir and assigns, against them the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife their heirs, Executors and administrators and assigns against all and every other person or persons whatsoever shall and will forever warrant and defend by these presents. In witness whereof, the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife have hereunto set their hands and seals the day and year first above written. s/John Geiger s/Abraham Geiger s/Mercy Geiger s/Mary Hoofman s/Cornelius Geiger s/Rebecca Geiger s/Felix Geiger s/Mary Geiger Signed, Sealed and delivered in the presence of s/Jacob Geiger s/Philip Geiger s/Stephen Denmark, JP Recorded January 28th 1815, Ely Kennedy, Clerk Received the day and year first within mentioned of and from the within named Christopher Frederick Bunce, the Sum of two hundred and fifty dollars, the consideration money within mentioned say received in full by us. s/John Geiger s/Abraham Geiger s/Mercy Geiger s/Mary Hoofman s/Cornelius Geiger s/Rebecca Geiger s/Felix Geiger s/Mary Geiger Witness: s/Jacob Geiger s/Philip Geiger s/Stephen Denmark, JP Recorded January 28th 1815 Ely Kennedy, C, SC, BC [Bulloch County GA 1814-1818 Deed Book AAA, pg 289 290 - Transcription] ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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