I agree with what you say, Gerry, but a lot of times you can find the original and it will be slightly different from the abstract. After all, scribes made mistakes too. This is the earliest Geiger deed that I have found issued for land in GA by the SC Council: 1763/05/10 Description: GEIGER, JACOB, PLAT FOR 600 ACRES ON ALATAMAHA RIVER. Names Indexed: LEIGH, EGERTON/GEIGER, JACOB/DAVIS, WILLIAM/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) > In the days you speak of, there were no photocopy machines - they had not > yet been invented...documents were prepared and folks met and signed; > afterward the Court Scrivner copied the Original for the Official Court > Record and returned the Original to the individual, as his Proof that he > held Title to the property. The Scrivners copy was recorded in the Official > Records of the County, so what you are seeing is the only copy > available...In most cases, copies with Original signatures have long since > been destroyed...but make no mistake, these are what you would get if you > ordered Certified Copies from the County today... > > In today's modern world, copies are quickly available...in those days it > took days to get them, so not many were made... > > > > > >From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> > >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 > >Jan 1814) > >Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 05:47:14 -0500 > > > >Those are not the original deeds. They appear to be early copies. (If > >you'll notice, all of the signatures are made in one handwriting.) We > >really need to look at the originals, IF they still exist. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> > >To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:05 PM > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 > >Jan 1814) > > > > > > > If you look on the Geiger board, you will see three JPG files attached > >which > > > are the three pages of the original Deed... > > > > > > > > > >From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> > > > >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce > >(16 > > > >Jan 1814) > > > >Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:17:42 -0500 > > > > > > > >I've always wondered about this deed. Has anyone seen the original? > >Does > > > >the original include "(or Geiger)" or did somebody add those words when > > > >they > > > >abstracted it? > > > > > > > >You can't believe how many times I've found significant differences > >between > > > >the hand-written original records and the published abstracts. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <giegerg@hotmail.com> > > > >To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:50 PM > > > >Subject: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 > >Jan > > > >1814) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > Surnames: GEIGER, Kegar, Hoofman, Bunce > > > > > Classification: Deed > > > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/892 > > > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > > > State of Georgia } > > > > > This Indenture made the sixteenth day of January in the year of our > >Lord > > > >One thousand eight hundred and fifteen and in the thirty ninth year of > >the > > > >Independence of the United States of America between John Geiger, > >Abraham > > > >Geiger and Mary[sic.Mercy] his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and > > > >Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, all of the said > >State > > > >and County of Bulloch of the one part, and Christopher Frederick Bunce > >of > > > >the State and County aforesaid, planter of the other part; Witnesseth > >that > > > >the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, > > > >Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his > >wife, > > > >legal heirs of Ulrich Kegar (or Geiger) deceased for and in > >consideration > > > >of > > > >the sum of two hundred and fifty dollars to them in hand well and truly > > > >paid > > > >by the said Christopher Frederick Bunce, at or before the sealing and > > > >delivery of these instruments, the receipt whereof is hereby > >acknowledged; > > > >They the said John Geiger! > > > > > , Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger > >and > > > >Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, Have granted, > > > >bargained, sold, aliened, released and confirmed and by these presents > >do > > > >grant, bargain, sell, alien, release and confirm unto the said > >Christopher > > > >Frederick Bunce and to his heirs and assigns forever all that parcel of > > > >land > > > >being four fifths of a Tract originally on the second day of June, Anno > > > >Domini, one thousand [seven] hundred and sixty seven granted to Ulrich > > > >Kegar > > > >for three hundred acres the said four fifths of said tract of land > > > >containing agreeable to the Original grant, two hundred and forty acres > >and > > > >by an accurate resurvey thereof made the 2nd day of December 1814, > >three > > > >hundred and twenty acres as will more fully appear by reference to the > > > >platt > > > >of said resurvey hereunto annexed, Situate lying and being at the date > >of > > > >these presents in the said County on the south side of Great Ogechee > >River > > > >immediately above the flat ford! > > > > > butting and bounding North East by the said river North West to > >land > > > > > of Stephen Denmark, South West by land of Denmark and land of John > > > >Geiger > > > >and South East by residue of said tract containing one fifth part > >belonging > > > >to the said John Geiger, Together with all and singular, the houses, > > > >Buildings and improvements, Rents, Issues, Profits, Privileges, > >Commodities > > > >and all the right, Title, Interest, Inheritance, Property, Benefit, > >Claim > > > >and demand, whatsoever to the said four fifth's of the said tract of > >land > > > >and all appurtenances thereunto belonging or in any wise appertaining: > >to > > > >have and to hold the said four fifths of the said tract of land, and > >all > > > >and > > > >singular, the premises above mentioned with their and every of their > > > >rights, > > > >Members and appurtenances; together with all and singular, the writings > > > >touching or in any wise Concerning the Same to the only proper use and > > > >benefit and behoof of the said Christopher Frederick Bunce, his heirs > >and > > > >assigns forever, and the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his > > > >wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius! > > > > > Geiger and Rebecca his wife, Felix Geiger and Mary his wife, their > > > >Heirs, Executors and administrators, the said four fifths of the said > >tract > > > >of land, and premises above mentioned and all and every part and parcel > > > >thereof unto the said Christopher Frederick Bunce, his heir and > >assigns, > > > >against them the said John Geiger, Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, > >Mary > > > >Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and > >Mary > > > >his wife their heirs, Executors and administrators and assigns against > >all > > > >and every other person or persons whatsoever shall and will forever > >warrant > > > >and defend by these presents. In witness whereof, the said John Geiger, > > > >Abraham Geiger and Mercy his wife, Mary Hoofman, Cornelius Geiger and > > > >Rebecca his wife, and Felix Geiger and Mary his wife have hereunto set > > > >their > > > >hands and seals the day and year first above written. > > > > > > > > > > s/John Geiger <SS> > > > > > s/Abraham Geiger <SS> > > > > > s/Mercy Geiger <SS> > > > > > s/Mary Hoofman <SS> > > > > > s/Cornelius Geiger <SS> > > > > > s/Rebecca Geiger <SS> > > > > > s/Felix Geiger <SS> > > > > > s/Mary Geiger <SS> > > > > > > > > > > Signed, Sealed and delivered in the presence of > > > > > s/Jacob Geiger > > > > > s/Philip Geiger > > > > > s/Stephen Denmark, JP > > > > > Recorded January 28th 1815, Ely Kennedy, Clerk > > > > > > > > > > Received the day and year first within mentioned of and from the > >within > > > >named Christopher Frederick Bunce, the Sum of two hundred and fifty > > > >dollars, > > > >the consideration money within mentioned say received in full by us. > > > > > > > > > > s/John Geiger > > > > > s/Abraham Geiger > > > > > s/Mercy Geiger > > > > > s/Mary Hoofman > > > > > s/Cornelius Geiger > > > > > s/Rebecca Geiger > > > > > s/Felix Geiger > > > > > s/Mary Geiger > > > > > > > > > > Witness: > > > > > s/Jacob Geiger > > > > > s/Philip Geiger > > > > > s/Stephen Denmark, JP > > > > > Recorded January 28th 1815 > > > > > Ely Kennedy, C, SC, BC > > > > > > > > > > [Bulloch County GA 1814-1818 Deed Book AAA, pg 289&290 - > >Transcription] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list send an e-mail to: > > > >GEIGER-L-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or > >GEIGER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > >(digest mode) and put only one word--either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in > >the > > > >subject and the body of the message. > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Bev, on the 24th you wrote: "I'm not sure where this fits into things... but I found a deed from the state of SC to John Geiger .... The land was on the Ogechee in GA. I believe this to be the land that the children later divide." Could you post that one, too? Ulrich's grant was on the Great Ogeechee. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) > I agree with what you say, Gerry, but a lot of times you can find the > original and it will be slightly different from the abstract. After all, > scribes made mistakes too. > > This is the earliest Geiger deed that I have found issued for land in GA by > the SC Council: > > 1763/05/10 > > Description: GEIGER, JACOB, PLAT FOR 600 ACRES ON ALATAMAHA RIVER. > > Names Indexed: LEIGH, EGERTON/GEIGER, JACOB/DAVIS, WILLIAM/ >

The SC land warrants for >500,000 acres south of the Altamaha (in GA) were issued in 3 batches on 5 Apr, 3 May and 7 Jun 1763: 1000 acres here, 5000 acres there, etc. Jacob Geiger of St. George/Dorchester Parish in SC got a 600-acre plat (but no grant); his brother Michael, also of St. George/Dorchester, had a warrant for 600 acres, but didn't have a plat surveyed. Few of those warrants resulted in a grant, because the land had been awarded within the Creek Nation, and it was only the Cherokees who had recently been defeated and shoved westwards. However, ~60,000 acres of GA land was actually awarded by SC grants....until the British Board of Trade found out about it and told the SC government to stop doing that! Gov. Boone said of course he could, since SC was supposed to extend to the 29 degree latitude. He was informed (by the Crown) that this land was due to be added to GA. In 1767, the SC government was ordered to send the grants to GA so they could be recorded there. Michael Geiger died in 1767, brother Jacob in 1769. Both had substantial estates (personal property as well as land), but no lands in GA! ----- Original Message ----- From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 Jan 1814) This is the earliest Geiger deed that I have found issued for land in GA by the SC Council: 1763/05/10 Description: GEIGER, JACOB, PLAT FOR 600 ACRES ON ALATAMAHA RIVER. Names Indexed: LEIGH, EGERTON/GEIGER, JACOB/DAVIS, WILLIAM/

Harriett- I have not seen Micheal's name before or if I have it did not register. Who was his parents. John Geiger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > The SC land warrants for >500,000 acres south of the Altamaha (in GA) were > issued in 3 batches on 5 Apr, 3 May and 7 Jun 1763: 1000 acres here, 5000 > acres there, etc. Jacob Geiger of St. George/Dorchester Parish in SC got a > 600-acre plat (but no grant); his brother Michael, also of St. > George/Dorchester, had a warrant for 600 acres, but didn't have a plat > surveyed. Few of those warrants resulted in a grant, because the land had > been awarded within the Creek Nation, and it was only the Cherokees who had > recently been defeated and shoved westwards. However, ~60,000 acres of GA > land was actually awarded by SC grants....until the British Board of Trade > found out about it and told the SC government to stop doing that! Gov. > Boone said of course he could, since SC was supposed to extend to the 29 > degree latitude. He was informed (by the Crown) that this land was due to > be added to GA. In 1767, the SC government was ordered to send the grants > to GA so they could be recorded there. > > Michael Geiger died in 1767, brother Jacob in 1769. Both had substantial > estates (personal property as well as land), but no lands in GA! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Heirs of Ulrich Kegar Deed to Christopher Bunce (16 > Jan 1814) > > This is the earliest Geiger deed that I have found issued for land in GA by > the SC Council: > > 1763/05/10 > > Description: GEIGER, JACOB, PLAT FOR 600 ACRES ON ALATAMAHA RIVER. > > Names Indexed: LEIGH, EGERTON/GEIGER, JACOB/DAVIS, WILLIAM/ > > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list send an e-mail to: GEIGER-L-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or GEIGER-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) and put only one word--either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject and the body of the message. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >