Anne: No, according to the rest of his genealogy at this site, Hans Jacob Gallman had sons, named Hans Heinrich (Heini), AND the one referred to as Capt. (and later on, Major) Henry. It was this latter one who married Elizabeth Geiger, Herman's daughter. I also believe, by the way, that this same one may have first been married to Herman's sister, Margaret ( a long story in itself, but one way that his son, Henry, Jr. could state in his will that his mother was Margaret Geiger Gallman, now the wife of Jacob Faust). Anyway, Heini was supposedly married to the sister of Heiri's wife from the Rheinthal, whose names we don't know. Did you also notice, at the beginning of the letter that Hans Jacob sent back, he mentions his brother..."my beloved brother Hans Jacob Galmann..."? He has a brother with the same name as his own? He gives two sons the same name? Has two daughters named Anna, and Anneli? What kind of crazy man/family was this? The letter was pretty neat though, especially the spelling of some of the city/town names. I especially liked Braffeidenz, for Providence; and all the different spellings he had for Saxe Gotha. They (those who own that website) are of the school who thinks that Herman was married to both Elizabeth Habluezel AND Margaret Gartmann. I don't think I support that position, but we have seen it several times before, so maybe we are the ones in error. Bob Gartman, a Gartman descendant, thinks that Herman probably took Margaret and her brothers in to raise after their parents died, and then perhaps had an "irregular" relationship with Margaret (as Bob so eloquently put it), which may have resulted in children WHILE he was still married to Elizabeth! Margaret was only 21 when Herman died, so she wasn't around him that long. Herm's will also calls his wife Elizabeth, so I'm betting something like this may have happened. Since Hans Conrad was supposedly born in 1736 though, we can never make the case that Margaret begat him out of wedlock, so there goes a means by which Hans Gallman could later call Hans Conrad his step-son! It's all loads of fun, isn't it? Warren

I think I'd better do what I said I was going to ... and stay out of this problem. Looks like I'm just making it worse! By the way, how about Catherina (b. 1834 SWT), Herman's first child (according to a news item)? She's not listed on his Memorial stone, but could she be the other sister, married to Heiri GALLMAN? The third sister Margaret was married to ___ Baughman, according to the Memorial stone. And yes, I noticed Herman's will said wife Elizabeth. Interesting theory about old Herman. Were they SURE it was those Canadian Indians that did him in? O.K., I'm going! Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Warren Smith <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] followup: GALLMAN web site > Anne: > > No, according to the rest of his genealogy at this site, Hans Jacob > Gallman had sons, named Hans Heinrich (Heini), AND the one referred to > as Capt. (and later on, Major) Henry. It was this latter one who married > Elizabeth Geiger, Herman's daughter. I also believe, by the way, that > this same one may have first been married to Herman's sister, Margaret ( > a long story in itself, but one way that his son, Henry, Jr. could state > in his will that his mother was Margaret Geiger Gallman, now the wife of > Jacob Faust). Anyway, Heini was supposedly married to the sister of > Heiri's wife from the Rheinthal, whose names we don't know. > > Did you also notice, at the beginning of the letter that Hans Jacob sent > back, he mentions his brother..."my beloved brother Hans Jacob > Galmann..."? He has a brother with the same name as his own? He gives > two sons the same name? Has two daughters named Anna, and Anneli? What > kind of crazy man/family was this? > > The letter was pretty neat though, especially the spelling of some of > the city/town names. I especially liked Braffeidenz, for Providence; and > all the different spellings he had for Saxe Gotha. > > They (those who own that website) are of the school who thinks that > Herman was married to both Elizabeth Habluezel AND Margaret Gartmann. I > don't think I support that position, but we have seen it several times > before, so maybe we are the ones in error. Bob Gartman, a Gartman > descendant, thinks that Herman probably took Margaret and her brothers > in to raise after their parents died, and then perhaps had an > "irregular" relationship with Margaret (as Bob so eloquently put it), > which may have resulted in children WHILE he was still married to > Elizabeth! Margaret was only 21 when Herman died, so she wasn't around > him that long. Herm's will also calls his wife Elizabeth, so I'm betting > something like this may have happened. Since Hans Conrad was supposedly > born in 1736 though, we can never make the case that Margaret begat him > out of wedlock, so there goes a means by which Hans Gallman could later > call Hans Conrad his step-son! > > It's all loads of fun, isn't it? > > Warren > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list send an e-mail to: [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest mode) and put only one word--either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject and the body of the message. > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >