This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Geiger Giger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JOY.2ACEB/895.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Joan thank you for your message. In my files I see the names of Johannes Geiger Jr. who married a Suzannah Creek a George Geiger married to a Barbara Kline and a Christian Geiger married to Anna Maria Esskuchin. I am still looking for a connection. Regenia Campbell bobnregi@bellatlantic.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/895.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Regenia- That would make you a descendant of Christian Geiger's son George. So yes, this could be a breakthrough that will prove a relationship between your Geiger line and that of quite a few other early Geigers in America. It sounds as though the proof will be in the parish records for Richen and/or Berwangen and surrounding towns. Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Geiger Giger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JOY.2ACEB/895.1 Message Board Post: I just read with interest your posting about the Geiger Family. My g-grandmother was Frances Giger daughter of William Giger. William was the first child born in Saline Township Madison County Illinois. He married Malinda Vinyard. Frances married James C. Reynolds.Thought I would drop you a note with this information. William Giger b. 9-6-1811 d. 6-22-1870 Frances Giger b.1857 d. 1883 Regenia Campbell bobnregi@bellatlantic.net

Obit from the Hattiesburg (Miss.) American, July 7, 2004: Olin Geiger CARSON - Services were held today at Saulters-Moore Funeral Home chapel in Prentiss for Olin Geiger, 93, of Carson, who died July 6, 2004, at his home. Burial was in Speights Cemetery. Mr. Geiger was a farmer and county worker and a member of Bassfield Baptist Church. He was preceded in death by his wife, Florence Geiger. Survivors include four sons, Olin Geiger Jr., Craig Geiger and Glenn Geiger, all of Carson, and Travis Geiger of Clinton; a daughter, Montez Scarborough of Foxworth; 11 grandchildren, 21 great-grandchildren and three great-great-grandchildren. Ralph Poore 3440 S. Brookshore Place Boise, Idaho 83706 poorehouse1@msn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Geiger, Engel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/899 Message Board Post: Looking for parents/siblings/ancestors of Wilhem (William) Geiger (1848), born in Germany. Wife - Rosina (Rosa) Engel (1854), born in Hohenreuth-Wurttemberg Germany. Both imigrated to USA (TX?) in 1888/1889. Both died in TX.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/898 Message Board Post: Hello It saddens me to inform all of you that Monday,July 6,2004, Mr. Olin C Geiger, Sr passed away. He was 93. He was the last surving child of Prentiss and Fannie Geiger. He was buried Wensday July 7,2004 in Speights Cemetary in Bassfield,MS. He is survived by 5 children and numerous grandchildren and great grandchildren. He will be missed.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/897 Message Board Post: Raymond Geiger GEIGER, Raymond Lee, 76, of Ridge Manor died on Thursday, July 1, 2004, in Tampa. He is survived by his wife, Grace Geiger; Ridge Manor, Fla.; son, Lee Geiger of Tampa, Fla.; four daughters, Jacqueline Blowers; Jamul, Calif., Christine Lines of Chula Vista, Calif., Debra Gilmer of Beckwourth, Calif., Therese Reynolds of Phoenix, Ariz.; two brothers, Lester Geiger of Brandon, Iowa, Donald Geiger; Cedar Rapids, Iowa; stepdaughter, Pamela Jones of Washington, D.C.; stepson, Steve Jones of Tampa, Fla.; 13 grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren. Mr. Geiger was born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. He was a resident of Ridge Manor since 1996; formerly of Tampa, Fla. He was a Border Patrol Inspector for US Customs. He was in the Navy and a Protestant. Visitation will be held on Tuesday. July 6, 2004 from 9 - 10 a.m. at Purcell Funeral Home Chapel, Bushnell, Fla. The services will be held on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 at 10 a.m. at Purcell Funeral Home Chapel. The Interment will be Florida Na! tional Cemetery. Bushnell, FL, with Military Honors rendered by Marine Corps League #708. In lieu of flowers donations may be made to LifeLink Legacy Fund, 409 Bayshore Blvd., Tampa, FL 33606. Arrangements by Purcell Funeral Home 114 W. Noble Avenue, Bushnell, FL Published in the TBO.com on 7/4/2004.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/888.2 Message Board Post: Hi Kyle I do not know anything about 1717, but on 8 October 1737 the ship Charming Nancy landed in Penn., with a Christian Geiger. He died about 6 may 1779 in Warwick Township, Lancaster, Penn and is buried at Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church, Manheim, Lancaster Co., Penn. This may not help, but it is another Geiger. good luck, Carol

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GEIGER Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/896 Message Board Post: GEIGER_Levada_WILLIAMSON_1919-1973.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Fountain Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 80,186 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Geiger, Kyger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/895 Message Board Post: I suspect that after all these years of trying to find the origin of Christian Geiger who arrived in Philadelphia in 1737 on the Charming Nancy--we may be on the verge of proving where he came from in Germany and who his ancestors are. The potential answer as to his origin was in my files for years and went overlooked until now. I'm in the process of reorganizing all my files and I'm going through EVERYTHING with a fresh look and I came upon something I had photocopied years ago that led me to take a closer look at my file on Paul Geiger of Berwangen, Germany who arrived in 1749 on the Fane and I think there may be some evidence in these files that could lead to tying together many of the early Geiger lines from the Northern Kraichgau area--and may well prove Christian Geiger and Paul Geiger are cousins. My photocopied pages are from The Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine Volume XXXIII, 1984, Number 3, pages 204-206 and the text reads as follows: European Origins, Raymond Martin Bell, F.A.S.G., F.G.S.P If a genealogist has the good fortune of locating a village in Europe whence his or her German-speaking ancestor came, there are all sorts of possibiities for extending family lines. A few examples are given below. It may take detective work at this side of the Atlantic to make the connection. The link may be a gravestone inscription, a family Bible, or a scrap of paper. A careful study of the names on a ship list may indicate the neighborhood to be searched in Germany, Switzerland, or northern France. Sometimes a German church or civil record will report "gone to Pennsylvania", and the family can be traced through the ship lists. Don Yoder and his associates have done an admirable job with Pennsylvania Immigrants (1980) and Rhineland Emigrants (1981). An excellent summary of the situation is given in Don Yoder's "Problems and Resources in Pennsylvania German Genealogical research", Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, XXXI, 1.26 (1979). In examples given below the connections were made as follows: [note: I'm only copying the one entry that pertains to GEIGER.] GEIGER--birthplace listed on tombstone--further research by John P. Dern, found a family tree in the German church book. GEIGER J. Paul--Berwangen, Baden-Wu"rttemberg to PA Oct. 17-1749, ship 144 b Nov 15-1723, son of J. Paul Geiger 1698-1754 and Elizabeth Ho"bel m (Germany) 1749 M. Eva Kiestlern 1724-1801 to Pa with wife Paul Geiger d Aug 2-1798 Geigertown, Berks Co. relatives who came to Pa were: brother, John, b 1727, Sept 5-1751, ship 162; and cousins, Paul b 1714, Aug 30-1737, ship 44, Christian, Oct 8-1737, ship 49, Jacob b 1720, Aug 27,-1739, ship 70 and George b 1729, Oct 17-1749, ship 144 --------- The above then led me to recheck the earliest info I have in my files on Paul Geiger of Berwangen and I found this: (This is a typewritten copy of the research being referred to above...) Family Record of Paul Geiger, born 1723, Berwangen, Baden-Wu"rttemberg Died 1798, Geigertown, Berks, Co., Penna. Compiled by Raymond Martin Bell Washington and Jefferson College From data supplied by John P. Dern, Redwood City, Calif and the late Annie Rettew Hunter, Reading, Penna Washington, Pennsylvania 1967 By way of introduction let me say that the typewritten pages include a map of the region being discussed which is described as about 20 miles Southeast of Heidelberg, Germany. There are three towns that form sort of a triangle with Ittlingen at the north end of the triangle, Richen due South and about halfway between the two and to the East of the other towns is Berwangen. The report begins with Paul Geiger and wife Anna appearing on a post-30 Year's War "survivor's list" as being in Richen. The report states that "several children" are listed in the records with Paul and Anna Geiger: 1. Paul 1643-1712. Moved to Berwangen (Lutheran). Married in the 1660s to Catharine Mutschler. 2. George Conrad 1647-1703 married Margaret "from Eppingen." 3. Anna married 1672 at Du"hren to Hans Jacob Do"rr. 4. Christian married in 1687 at Berwangen to Margaret Sto"rner. Since this report is ONLY concerned with the ancestry of Paul Geiger or Geigertown only the children of Paul above are listed in this report. "Known children" of Paul, above, are: 1. John Conrad 1669-1737. 2. Catharine 3. George 4. Paul born 1677 Only the children of John Conrad, above, are then listed and among them is Paul Geiger, 1723-1798 who emigrated to American in 1749 on the Fane and settled in Geigertown, Berks County. ------- From another source, Annette Kunselman Burgert's Eighteenth Century Emigrants, Vol. 1, The Northern Kraichgau, more can be learned about other Geigers (in addition to Paul above) who emigrated from Berwangen as follows: Joh. Georg Geiger, born 27 Nov. 1728 (son of John Paul and Eva Maria Geiger) emigrated in 1749 on the Fane. Joh. Jacob Geiger, born 24 Mar. 1720, son of Jacob (son of John Conrad Geiger) and Maria Elisabetha Stein. It isn't known for sure which of several Jacob Geigers who appear on ship lists arriving in Philadelphia is THIS Jacob--but he did emigrate. Joh. Paul Geiger, born 1 Jan. 1714, son of Georg Conrad Geiger (son of the late Georg Conrad Geiger) and Maria Cathrina Ross. The church entry for Joh. Paul says "in new land 1737." Emigrated on the Samuel in 1737. [Married Anna Barbara Da"schlerin and their records can be found in the churchbook of St. Michael's and Zion Lutheran Church, Philadelphia.] Anna Geiger, born 8 Oct. 1715. Sister to Joh. Paul Geiger, immediately above. Church records note: "in new land." Johannes Geiger, born 11 Sept. 1727, son of Paul Geiger (3rd son of Joh. Conradt Geiger) and Elisabetha Hobeling. A notation in the family register indicates that he is in Pennsylvania. Emigrated on the Billander Elizabeth, 1751. [He married Anna, widowed Cuntzin 5 July 1752 and the record can be found in Trinity Lutheran Church, Lancaster, Pa.] -------- One would have to also note that due to the proximity of Ittlingen from which the three Geiger brothers, Valentine, Jacob, and John Georg emigrated as early as 1717; it is possible a later connection will be found in the Richen, Ittlingen, Berwangen and Kirchardt (another nearby town) church records that will connect these Geigers to the ones listed above. The note in the Pennsylvania Genealogical Mazazine above concerning Christian Geiger who emigrated in 1737 being a cousin of Paul of Berwangen leads me to believe the proof is there in these reports and it merely isn't listed in the records I have in my possession because those preparing this research were only interested in their line of descent. More research needs to be done to determine the missing links between the children of Paul Geiger "survivor" of the 30 Year's War and Christian Geiger who emigrated on the Charming Nancy. Joan

I'd sent this to the Orangeburg and Lexington SC Lists, forgot to copy it to the Geiger List. That 1737 arrival of the Prince of Wales is where the SC Geigers shipped over. And there were sure a lot of documents about it! A really nice book-find, for decesdants of those folks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Harriet Imrey To: ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com Cc: SCLEXING-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha The first Swiss settlers who arrived in SC and settled Orangeburgh (current Orangeburg, also Saxegotha to the north and New Windsor to the south) wrote letters back to Switzerland about what they saw there. Several of those letters were translated and published in Leo Schelbert's America Experienced--a 1996 book which has been out-of-print. It's recently been reissued in paperback. Check www.pictonpress.com. Cost is $29.50 plus $4 S&H. Letters included are (in chronological order by ship-of-arrival): Ship William, Feb 1735: Jakob Gallmann of Saxegotha. Ship Samuel, Jul 1735: Hans Georg Strigger, leader of the Bernese group that settled Orangeburgh Township; Dr. Fridolin Hilti; Hanss Danner. Ship Prince of Wales, Feb 1737: Johannes Tobler, leader of the Appenzeller group that settled New Windsor Township; Sebastian Zuberbühler, organizer of the voyage; Johann Ulrich Giezendanner, first minister in Orangeburgh; Hans Wernhard Trachsler, who went back to Switzerland ASAP. The book covers all Swiss emigrants of the 18th and 19th centuries. It's perhaps a coincidence that such a large proportion of the letter-writers happened to be among the earliest settlers of Orangeburgh! If your library doesn't have a copy, encourage them to get one while this print-run is still available. It's a "must-read" for anybody who's tracking their families back to Orangeburgh or Saxegotha in 1735-7. First-settler Strigger took one look at the primeval forests of the American frontier (that was Orangeburgh SC at the time) and skedaddled to Philadelphia immediately. Other people who had come over with him liked it and stayed there. And they even wrote letters about why they did. Harriet Imrey himrey@ntelos.net

Geiger citations from Werner Hacker (ed.), Eighteenth Century Register of Emigrants from Southwest Germany (to America and Other Countries). Apollo PA: Closson Press, 1994. The index refers to 10 previously-published volumes of parish records, available only in the German language and out-of-print. Some emigration records include intended (or reported) destination, while others do not. Only a few report the emigrant's profession. Note that the records of several parishes are no longer extant, and many (most?) people left without getting permission to do so--or paying for their manumission and emigration taxes--therefore are not recorded. Some got permission to emigrate, but remained in their home-parishes. Most emigrants-with-permission relocated to other parishes within Germany. The reported-destination is not always where the emigrants showed up! Many entries did not report a destination. 1. Anton Geiger, Bitz/German Lothringen, 1766, to Hungary. 2. Bartel Geiger, Bischweier, 1733. 3. Elisabeth Geiger, Hettenrode/Birkenfeld, 1792. 4. Georg Geiger, Malsch, 1761. 5. Hans Peter Geiger, 1714, to France. 6. Hiskias Geiger, Epplingen, Boxbg [sic], 1754, to America. 7. Jacob Geiger, Kippenheim, 1768. 8. Jakob Geiger, Eichtersheim (?), 1752, to America. 9. Jakob Geiger, Kirchart, 1753, to Hungary. 10. Johann Geiger, Kaiserslautern, 1803, to Galicia, profession = brewer. 11. Johann Karl Geiger, Sulz, 1752, to America. 12. Salomon Geiger, Hainfeld, 1762, to America. 13. Salomon Geiger, Hainfeld, 1786, to America. [Entries for this name are separate, and may refer to one person who deferred a decision to emigrate, or to members of two generations.] 14. Ulrich Geiger, Eppingen/Bret, 1751, to America. 15. Barbara Geiger and two children, Dühren, 1737 to America (?) 16. Theodor Geiger in party/family of 6, Alsenz, 1784, to Hungary, profession listed as [book]binder and brewer in two entries. 17. Jacob Geiger Jun. and family, Dürrn, 1744, to America. [This may be the Jacob Giegher who arrived in Charlestown SC on the ship St. Andrew on 31 Dec 1744 with two other family-members, received a 150-acre grant across from Saxegotha Township, at the confluence of the Broad and Saluda Rivers. He is the only Geiger of colonial Saxegotha SC who was apparently unrelated to the Swiss Geigers who had arrived in 1737...although he lived very near Jacob Geiger, son-of-Abraham.] 18. Johann Michael Geiger and wife, Mingolsheim, 1764, to Cajenne. Names are spelled exactly as transcribed by Hacker, except that abbreviations of parishes, destinations and professions are expanded per his indices. I am unfamiliar with German geography of the 18th century, so do not know the location of these parishes except that they are in SW Germany. There are no alternate spellings of the surname (e.g., Kyger in Switzerland) in this index. The Hacker work covers most of the extant parish records from the region where most "Palatines" emigrated, and includes several Geigers. The ship-lists of immigrants in Philadelphia during the 18th century also include many Geigers. There are no potential matches on name-and-year. The surname is so widely-spread that it may be a real uphill battle to match a particular colonial Geiger immigrant to a point-of-origin in a parish record--especially since most immigrants in the Colonies and most emigrants from Germany never got recorded at either location. I chose to post the information printed ! in the Hacker index merely because it includes the names of some parishes in SW Germany where one can find some Geiger families with members who had "itchy feet." A search of the records on LDS microfilm for those parishes might identify some other Geigers who made their way across the Atlantic. Parenthesized notes are those in Hacker, bracketed notes are my additions. Harriet Imrey himrey@ntelos.net

John is probably the same person shown as one of the Johannes'... >From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? >Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:07:21 -0500 > >There is also a John Geiger who arrived for the first time in 1752 aboard >the Caladonia. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "susan wilson" <hrw3@worldnet.att.net> >To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:02 PM >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > There is a listing for Philip in the 1830 Ga. census ...for Darien, >McIntosh > > County. Appears to be single, age between 30 and 40. Living in same >town > > is someone listed as John U. Geiger, age 20-30 with wife, no children > > listed. Someone listed Philip as being the first son of Felix and > > references Gnann as the source of this material. Seen Philip as a >witness >to > > a lot of docs, but no clue to where he begins...and earlier census >material > > is not avialable . Isn't there also a Michael Geiger mentioned for >before > > 1800 in Georgia as well? Not sure but I though I saw the name Micheal >in > > passing some time ago......... Susan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Connell" <rconnell@cfl.rr.com> > > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > > > > Gerry, what is your proof that this Philip is a son of Felix and Mary >(my > > > line)? I'd never seen that - or his b/d dates! > > > > > > We also have an unidentified Etheldred in Effingham Co., GA. I have > > > wondered if he could be another son of Hs. Ulrich, who perhaps died >before > > > the 1815 deed was signed? > > > "A Return of Capt. John Rawls' Co., Effingham County Militia, Feb. 15, > > 1794. > > > Officers incl.: Sgt. Felix Geiger, Corp. Cornelius Geiger, Corp. John > > > Geiger; Privates incl.: Etheldred Geiger, Abraham Geiger, George >Martin." > > > [extracted from Georgia Genealogical Magazine, April 1968, p. 1902] > > > > > > Here's the full list you submitted to the Effingham Co. site: > > > > > > Return of Capt John Rawls’ Company > > > Effingham County (GA) Militia > > > 15 Feb 1794 > > > > > > Officers: > > > John Rawls, Capt. > > > Stephen Denmark, Lieut. > > > Jonathan Robison, Ensign > > > John Lane, Sgt. > > > Felix Geiger, Sgt. > > > John Dukes, Sgt. > > > William Bennett, Sgt. > > > Cornelius Geiger, Corp. > > > John Geiger, Corporal > > > > > > Privates: > > > Samuel Spurlock > > > Frederick Rester > > > David Lastinger > > > Lewis Cook > > > Alexander Lane > > > Joseph Gills (?) > > > John Wright > > > Ethelred Geiger > > > John Goldsmith > > > Solomon Gruver > > > David Gruver > > > Bryant Lane > > > Richard Bennett > > > Robert Porter > > > Abraham Geiger > > > John Cardwell > > > Lewis Williams > > > Austin Sheffield > > > George Martin > > > John Owens > > > John Thomson > > > Certified: JOHN RAWLS, Captain > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> > > > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:11 PM > > > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > > > > > > > Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by > > Jones > > > > and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he >connects, > > if > > > at > > > > all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... > > > > > > > > I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of > > Felix > > > > and Mary - b1788, d1849... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> > > > > >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 > > > > > > > > > >There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in > > 1772. > > > > >Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of > > > "Herman" > > > > >(of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references >to > > > the > > > > >same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon >Geiger. > > > > > > > > > >The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the > > Ebenezer > > > > >Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a >Philip > > > > >Geiger, in SC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > > Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Learn to simplify your finances and your life in Streamline Your Life from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0405streamline.armx

Maybe! The name is given as "Johann's Keyger" (by genealogist Brent Holcomb from the British copy of his land petition) and as "Johann's Keyzer" (by genealogist Theresa Hicks from the SC copy of his petition). The petition did not result in a plat or a grant under either name (or their spelling-variants), and there are no further SC records relating to him or to his wife. The implication is that he died shortly after arrival. The large fleet of Palatine immigrants that arrived in Charlestown from Sep 1752 to Jan 1753 included other Keyzers who survived, and settled in the Dutch Fork section of Lexington Co SC. They used the spellings Kyser/Kyzer during the 19th century. There are--of course--numerous colonial SC records about various John Geigers, but each of those can be traced to the family of the 1737 Swiss immigrants. None to a descendant of a German John Keyger/Keyzer who arrived in SC on the Caledonia in 1752, many to descendants of the John Ulrich Keyser who arrived with the same fleet. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > There is also a John Geiger who arrived for the first time in 1752 aboard > the Caladonia.

There is also a John Geiger who arrived for the first time in 1752 aboard the Caladonia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan wilson" <hrw3@worldnet.att.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > There is a listing for Philip in the 1830 Ga. census ...for Darien, McIntosh > County. Appears to be single, age between 30 and 40. Living in same town > is someone listed as John U. Geiger, age 20-30 with wife, no children > listed. Someone listed Philip as being the first son of Felix and > references Gnann as the source of this material. Seen Philip as a witness to > a lot of docs, but no clue to where he begins...and earlier census material > is not avialable . Isn't there also a Michael Geiger mentioned for before > 1800 in Georgia as well? Not sure but I though I saw the name Micheal in > passing some time ago......... Susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Connell" <rconnell@cfl.rr.com> > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > Gerry, what is your proof that this Philip is a son of Felix and Mary (my > > line)? I'd never seen that - or his b/d dates! > > > > We also have an unidentified Etheldred in Effingham Co., GA. I have > > wondered if he could be another son of Hs. Ulrich, who perhaps died before > > the 1815 deed was signed? > > "A Return of Capt. John Rawls' Co., Effingham County Militia, Feb. 15, > 1794. > > Officers incl.: Sgt. Felix Geiger, Corp. Cornelius Geiger, Corp. John > > Geiger; Privates incl.: Etheldred Geiger, Abraham Geiger, George Martin." > > [extracted from Georgia Genealogical Magazine, April 1968, p. 1902] > > > > Here's the full list you submitted to the Effingham Co. site: > > > > Return of Capt John Rawls’ Company > > Effingham County (GA) Militia > > 15 Feb 1794 > > > > Officers: > > John Rawls, Capt. > > Stephen Denmark, Lieut. > > Jonathan Robison, Ensign > > John Lane, Sgt. > > Felix Geiger, Sgt. > > John Dukes, Sgt. > > William Bennett, Sgt. > > Cornelius Geiger, Corp. > > John Geiger, Corporal > > > > Privates: > > Samuel Spurlock > > Frederick Rester > > David Lastinger > > Lewis Cook > > Alexander Lane > > Joseph Gills (?) > > John Wright > > Ethelred Geiger > > John Goldsmith > > Solomon Gruver > > David Gruver > > Bryant Lane > > Richard Bennett > > Robert Porter > > Abraham Geiger > > John Cardwell > > Lewis Williams > > Austin Sheffield > > George Martin > > John Owens > > John Thomson > > Certified: JOHN RAWLS, Captain > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> > > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > > > > Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by > Jones > > > and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he connects, > if > > at > > > all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... > > > > > > I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of > Felix > > > and Mary - b1788, d1849... > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> > > > >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 > > > > > > > >There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in > 1772. > > > >Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of > > "Herman" > > > >(of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references to > > the > > > >same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon Geiger. > > > > > > > >The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the > Ebenezer > > > >Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a Philip > > > >Geiger, in SC. > > > > > > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

There is a listing for Philip in the 1830 Ga. census ...for Darien, McIntosh County. Appears to be single, age between 30 and 40. Living in same town is someone listed as John U. Geiger, age 20-30 with wife, no children listed. Someone listed Philip as being the first son of Felix and references Gnann as the source of this material. Seen Philip as a witness to a lot of docs, but no clue to where he begins...and earlier census material is not avialable . Isn't there also a Michael Geiger mentioned for before 1800 in Georgia as well? Not sure but I though I saw the name Micheal in passing some time ago......... Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Connell" <rconnell@cfl.rr.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > Gerry, what is your proof that this Philip is a son of Felix and Mary (my > line)? I'd never seen that - or his b/d dates! > > We also have an unidentified Etheldred in Effingham Co., GA. I have > wondered if he could be another son of Hs. Ulrich, who perhaps died before > the 1815 deed was signed? > "A Return of Capt. John Rawls' Co., Effingham County Militia, Feb. 15, 1794. > Officers incl.: Sgt. Felix Geiger, Corp. Cornelius Geiger, Corp. John > Geiger; Privates incl.: Etheldred Geiger, Abraham Geiger, George Martin." > [extracted from Georgia Genealogical Magazine, April 1968, p. 1902] > > Here's the full list you submitted to the Effingham Co. site: > > Return of Capt John Rawls’ Company > Effingham County (GA) Militia > 15 Feb 1794 > > Officers: > John Rawls, Capt. > Stephen Denmark, Lieut. > Jonathan Robison, Ensign > John Lane, Sgt. > Felix Geiger, Sgt. > John Dukes, Sgt. > William Bennett, Sgt. > Cornelius Geiger, Corp. > John Geiger, Corporal > > Privates: > Samuel Spurlock > Frederick Rester > David Lastinger > Lewis Cook > Alexander Lane > Joseph Gills (?) > John Wright > Ethelred Geiger > John Goldsmith > Solomon Gruver > David Gruver > Bryant Lane > Richard Bennett > Robert Porter > Abraham Geiger > John Cardwell > Lewis Williams > Austin Sheffield > George Martin > John Owens > John Thomson > Certified: JOHN RAWLS, Captain > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:11 PM > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by Jones > > and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he connects, if > at > > all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... > > > > I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of Felix > > and Mary - b1788, d1849... > > > > > > > > >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> > > >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 > > > > > >There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in 1772. > > >Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of > "Herman" > > >(of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references to > the > > >same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon Geiger. > > > > > >The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the Ebenezer > > >Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a Philip > > >Geiger, in SC. > > > >

That is what I meant... >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? >Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 19:45:34 -0400 > >Probably because the Percy Geiger book includes only the descendants of >Herman Geiger, and none of the many descendants of his uncle Abraham! But >Abraham didn't have a grandson named Thomas either. Those are different >Geigers, who showed up only in GA, not in SC. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> >To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:11 PM >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > >Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by Jones >and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he connects, if >at >all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... > > > > I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of >Felix >and Mary - b1788, d1849... > > >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 > >There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in 1772. >Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of "Herman" >(of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references to the >same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon Geiger. >The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the Ebenezer >Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a Philip >Geiger, in SC. > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/

Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by Jones and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he connects, if at all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of Felix and Mary - b1788, d1849... >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 > >There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in 1772. >Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of "Herman" >(of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references to the >same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon Geiger. > >The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the Ebenezer >Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a Philip >Geiger, in SC. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <bzb@houston.rr.com> >To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:26 PM >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > Or who was the Thomas Geiger in Orangeburg born before 1725? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "susan wilson" <hrw3@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > > > > > > > Harriet...... > > > > > > Do you have any idea who Philip belongs to? > > > > > > Susan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> > > > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? >Nobody has traced the ancestry of these brothers, because they left no male >descendants in the Colonies. They emigrated from Beihingen-am-Neckar in >Württemberg, Germany, and first show up in SC records in Aug 1755. At that >time, Jacob Geiger had a wife Mary, a daughter Mary, 3 indentured servants >and 2 slaves. The first grant was south of the Edisto near Purrysburgh. In >1757, both Michael and Jacob were Petit Jurors in St. Bartholomew Parish. >Michael married Margaret, widow of Daniel Gelzer, but he survived her, left >all his property to brother Jacob. Per Jacob's will of 23 Sep 1769, his >daughter (and only child) Mary was unmarried then. He mentioned brothers >Hans Georg (deceased) and John Frederick, both still in Beihingen. All of >the SC land references to Jacob and Michael Geiger are in Charlestown >Precinct, although in four separate parishes (they owned a lot of land). >The >other 6 adult Jacob Geigers in SC at the time all lived in the backcountry, >in Saxegotha, Craven County, and the Dutch Fork. > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GEIGER/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/

Gerry, what is your proof that this Philip is a son of Felix and Mary (my line)? I'd never seen that - or his b/d dates! We also have an unidentified Etheldred in Effingham Co., GA. I have wondered if he could be another son of Hs. Ulrich, who perhaps died before the 1815 deed was signed? "A Return of Capt. John Rawls' Co., Effingham County Militia, Feb. 15, 1794. Officers incl.: Sgt. Felix Geiger, Corp. Cornelius Geiger, Corp. John Geiger; Privates incl.: Etheldred Geiger, Abraham Geiger, George Martin." [extracted from Georgia Genealogical Magazine, April 1968, p. 1902] Here's the full list you submitted to the Effingham Co. site: Return of Capt John Rawls’ Company Effingham County (GA) Militia 15 Feb 1794 Officers: John Rawls, Capt. Stephen Denmark, Lieut. Jonathan Robison, Ensign John Lane, Sgt. Felix Geiger, Sgt. John Dukes, Sgt. William Bennett, Sgt. Cornelius Geiger, Corp. John Geiger, Corporal Privates: Samuel Spurlock Frederick Rester David Lastinger Lewis Cook Alexander Lane Joseph Gills (?) John Wright Ethelred Geiger John Goldsmith Solomon Gruver David Gruver Bryant Lane Richard Bennett Robert Porter Abraham Geiger John Cardwell Lewis Williams Austin Sheffield George Martin John Owens John Thomson Certified: JOHN RAWLS, Captain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by Jones > and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he connects, if at > all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... > > I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of Felix > and Mary - b1788, d1849... > > > > >From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> > >Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > >To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? > >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 > > > >There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in 1772. > >Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of "Herman" > >(of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references to the > >same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon Geiger. > > > >The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the Ebenezer > >Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a Philip > >Geiger, in SC. > >

Probably because the Percy Geiger book includes only the descendants of Herman Geiger, and none of the many descendants of his uncle Abraham! But Abraham didn't have a grandson named Thomas either. Those are different Geigers, who showed up only in GA, not in SC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? Thomas and his wife Mary are, indeed, listed on Pg 82 of the ERB by Jones and Exley, but Descendants of Hans Ulrich do not know how he connects, if at all...He is not listed in the SC book by Percy Geiger... > > I have seen Philip as a witness on several Deeds...He is the son of Felix and Mary - b1788, d1849... > From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> Reply-To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GEIGER] SC grants to GA Geigers? Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:51:53 -0400 There was one other reference to a "Thomas" Geiger in Saxegotha in 1772. Both that one, and the 1748 reference, were mis-transcriptions of "Herman" (of all things!)--identifiable because of multiple other references to the same transaction in which the name clearly says Herman/Harmon Geiger. The place to find a Thomas Geiger (and his wife Mary) is in the Ebenezer Church and on the Ogeechee in GA. No references to him, or to a Philip Geiger, in SC.