Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Fw: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha > It's Leo Schelbert, America Experienced: Eighteenth and Nineteenth Century > Accounts of Swiss Immigrants to the United States. (Camden ME: Picton Press, > 1996, 2004). > > Perhaps it's just my personal-taste that says "this is real fun to read", > but check-it-out for yourself. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. W. Wright" <dww1962@bellsouth.net> > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Fw: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha > > > What is the name of the book? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:27 PM > Subject: [GEIGER] Fw: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha > > Mea culpa! Should have copied to this List as well, since several > Geiger-correspondents are interested in the voyage of the ship Prince of > Wales in 1736/7 from Rotterdam to Charleston. People onboard wrote letters > about it, and those letters have been published. I absolutely LOVED reading > this book, and other people interested in the Geiger immigrants to SC might > well like it as much as I do. > > The book does NOT include the John Tobler diaries, where he says exactly > what he thinks about Herman Geiger (a "useless person" who "swears and > curses"). I doubt if the Geigers thought very highly of John Tobler either! > But the material in this book is well-worth-reading, for anybody with an > interest in immigration to colonial South Carolina. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Harriet Imrey > > > To: ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com > > > Cc: SCLEXING-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:21 PM > > > Subject: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha > > The first Swiss settlers who arrived in SC and settled Orangeburgh (current > Orangeburg, also Saxegotha to the north and New Windsor to the south) wrote > letters back to Switzerland about what they saw there. Several of those > letters were translated and published in Leo Schelbert's America > Experienced--a 1996 book which has been out-of-print. It's recently been > reissued in paperback. Check www.pictonpress.com. Cost is $29.95 plus $4 > S&H. > > Letters included are (in chronological order by ship-of-arrival): > Ship William, Feb 1735: Jakob Gallmann of Saxegotha. > Ship Samuel, Jul 1735: Hans Georg Strigger, leader of the Bernese group > that settled Orangeburgh Township; Dr. Fridolin Hilti; Hanss Danner. > Ship Prince of Wales, Feb 1737: Johannes Tobler, leader of the Appenzeller > group that settled New Windsor Township; Sebastian Zuberbühler, organizer of > the voyage; Johann Ulrich Giezendanner, first minister in Orangeburgh; Hans > Wernhard Trachsler, who went back to Switzerland ASAP. > > The book covers all Swiss emigrants of the 18th and 19th centuries. It's > perhaps a coincidence that such a large proportion of the letter-writers > happened to be among the earliest settlers of Orangeburgh! If your library > doesn't have a copy, encourage them to get one while this print-run is still > available. It's a "must-read" for anybody who's tracking their families > back to Orangeburgh or Saxegotha in 1735-7. > > First-settler Strigger took one look at the primeval forests of the American > frontier (that was Orangeburgh SC at the time) and skedaddled to > Philadelphia immediately. Other people who had come over with him liked it > and stayed there. And they even wrote letters about why they did. > > Harriet Imrey > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Messages posted to the RootsWeb/Ancestry GEIGER Message Board are gatewayed to this Mailing List. Remember that the author of gatewayed messages may not be a GEIGER list subscriber so please reply to gatewayed messages by clicking on the link and replying on the board and/or include the author in your e-mail reply. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

It's Leo Schelbert, America Experienced: Eighteenth and Nineteenth Century Accounts of Swiss Immigrants to the United States. (Camden ME: Picton Press, 1996, 2004). Perhaps it's just my personal-taste that says "this is real fun to read", but check-it-out for yourself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. W. Wright" <dww1962@bellsouth.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Fw: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha What is the name of the book? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Fw: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha Mea culpa! Should have copied to this List as well, since several Geiger-correspondents are interested in the voyage of the ship Prince of Wales in 1736/7 from Rotterdam to Charleston. People onboard wrote letters about it, and those letters have been published. I absolutely LOVED reading this book, and other people interested in the Geiger immigrants to SC might well like it as much as I do. The book does NOT include the John Tobler diaries, where he says exactly what he thinks about Herman Geiger (a "useless person" who "swears and curses"). I doubt if the Geigers thought very highly of John Tobler either! But the material in this book is well-worth-reading, for anybody with an interest in immigration to colonial South Carolina. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Harriet Imrey > > To: ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com > > Cc: SCLEXING-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:21 PM > > Subject: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha The first Swiss settlers who arrived in SC and settled Orangeburgh (current Orangeburg, also Saxegotha to the north and New Windsor to the south) wrote letters back to Switzerland about what they saw there. Several of those letters were translated and published in Leo Schelbert's America Experienced--a 1996 book which has been out-of-print. It's recently been reissued in paperback. Check www.pictonpress.com. Cost is $29.95 plus $4 S&H. Letters included are (in chronological order by ship-of-arrival): Ship William, Feb 1735: Jakob Gallmann of Saxegotha. Ship Samuel, Jul 1735: Hans Georg Strigger, leader of the Bernese group that settled Orangeburgh Township; Dr. Fridolin Hilti; Hanss Danner. Ship Prince of Wales, Feb 1737: Johannes Tobler, leader of the Appenzeller group that settled New Windsor Township; Sebastian Zuberbühler, organizer of the voyage; Johann Ulrich Giezendanner, first minister in Orangeburgh; Hans Wernhard Trachsler, who went back to Switzerland ASAP. The book covers all Swiss emigrants of the 18th and 19th centuries. It's perhaps a coincidence that such a large proportion of the letter-writers happened to be among the earliest settlers of Orangeburgh! If your library doesn't have a copy, encourage them to get one while this print-run is still available. It's a "must-read" for anybody who's tracking their families back to Orangeburgh or Saxegotha in 1735-7. First-settler Strigger took one look at the primeval forests of the American frontier (that was Orangeburgh SC at the time) and skedaddled to Philadelphia immediately. Other people who had come over with him liked it and stayed there. And they even wrote letters about why they did. Harriet Imrey

What is the name of the book? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Fw: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha > Mea culpa! Should have copied to this List as well, since several Geiger-correspondents are interested in the voyage of the ship Prince of Wales in 1736/7 from Rotterdam to Charleston. People onboard wrote letters about it, and those letters have been published. I absolutely LOVED reading this book, and other people interested in the Geiger immigrants to SC might well like it as much as I do. > > The book does NOT include the John Tobler diaries, where he says exactly what he thinks about Herman Geiger (a "useless person" who "swears and curses"). I doubt if the Geigers thought very highly of John Tobler either! But the material in this book is well-worth-reading, for anybody with an interest in immigration to colonial South Carolina. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harriet Imrey > To: ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: SCLEXING-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:21 PM > Subject: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha > > > The first Swiss settlers who arrived in SC and settled Orangeburgh (current Orangeburg, also Saxegotha to the north and New Windsor to the south) wrote letters back to Switzerland about what they saw there. Several of those letters were translated and published in Leo Schelbert's America Experienced--a 1996 book which has been out-of-print. It's recently been reissued in paperback. Check www.pictonpress.com. Cost is $29.95 plus $4 S&H. > > Letters included are (in chronological order by ship-of-arrival): > Ship William, Feb 1735: Jakob Gallmann of Saxegotha. > Ship Samuel, Jul 1735: Hans Georg Strigger, leader of the Bernese group that settled Orangeburgh Township; Dr. Fridolin Hilti; Hanss Danner. > Ship Prince of Wales, Feb 1737: Johannes Tobler, leader of the Appenzeller group that settled New Windsor Township; Sebastian Zuberbühler, organizer of the voyage; Johann Ulrich Giezendanner, first minister in Orangeburgh; Hans Wernhard Trachsler, who went back to Switzerland ASAP. > > The book covers all Swiss emigrants of the 18th and 19th centuries. It's perhaps a coincidence that such a large proportion of the letter-writers happened to be among the earliest settlers of Orangeburgh! If your library doesn't have a copy, encourage them to get one while this print-run is still available. It's a "must-read" for anybody who's tracking their families back to Orangeburgh or Saxegotha in 1735-7. > > First-settler Strigger took one look at the primeval forests of the American frontier (that was Orangeburgh SC at the time) and skedaddled to Philadelphia immediately. Other people who had come over with him liked it and stayed there. And they even wrote letters about why they did. > > Harriet Imrey > himrey@ntelos.net > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Mea culpa! Should have copied to this List as well, since several Geiger-correspondents are interested in the voyage of the ship Prince of Wales in 1736/7 from Rotterdam to Charleston. People onboard wrote letters about it, and those letters have been published. I absolutely LOVED reading this book, and other people interested in the Geiger immigrants to SC might well like it as much as I do. The book does NOT include the John Tobler diaries, where he says exactly what he thinks about Herman Geiger (a "useless person" who "swears and curses"). I doubt if the Geigers thought very highly of John Tobler either! But the material in this book is well-worth-reading, for anybody with an interest in immigration to colonial South Carolina. ----- Original Message ----- From: Harriet Imrey To: ORANGEBURGH_SC-L@rootsweb.com Cc: SCLEXING-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: First settlers of Orangeburgh and Saxegotha The first Swiss settlers who arrived in SC and settled Orangeburgh (current Orangeburg, also Saxegotha to the north and New Windsor to the south) wrote letters back to Switzerland about what they saw there. Several of those letters were translated and published in Leo Schelbert's America Experienced--a 1996 book which has been out-of-print. It's recently been reissued in paperback. Check www.pictonpress.com. Cost is $29.95 plus $4 S&H. Letters included are (in chronological order by ship-of-arrival): Ship William, Feb 1735: Jakob Gallmann of Saxegotha. Ship Samuel, Jul 1735: Hans Georg Strigger, leader of the Bernese group that settled Orangeburgh Township; Dr. Fridolin Hilti; Hanss Danner. Ship Prince of Wales, Feb 1737: Johannes Tobler, leader of the Appenzeller group that settled New Windsor Township; Sebastian Zuberbühler, organizer of the voyage; Johann Ulrich Giezendanner, first minister in Orangeburgh; Hans Wernhard Trachsler, who went back to Switzerland ASAP. The book covers all Swiss emigrants of the 18th and 19th centuries. It's perhaps a coincidence that such a large proportion of the letter-writers happened to be among the earliest settlers of Orangeburgh! If your library doesn't have a copy, encourage them to get one while this print-run is still available. It's a "must-read" for anybody who's tracking their families back to Orangeburgh or Saxegotha in 1735-7. First-settler Strigger took one look at the primeval forests of the American frontier (that was Orangeburgh SC at the time) and skedaddled to Philadelphia immediately. Other people who had come over with him liked it and stayed there. And they even wrote letters about why they did. Harriet Imrey himrey@ntelos.net

Since the question has come up today, perhaps it's time to mention the Percy Geiger book, titled "The Geigers of South Carolina." This is a generally-helpful source, and I believe that the reprint is still available. A more-precise title would have been "The Subset of Geigers of South Carolina Who Happen to Be Descended from Herman Geiger." Herman wasn't the only game in town! He had two brothers, four surviving sisters, and four cousins, and nearly all of them left descendants in the region and elsewhere. By the late summer of 1737, 13 Rheintaler households who had arrived on the ship Prince of Wales on 1 Feb 1735 had settled in Saxegotha SC. Of those 13 households, 5 were Geigers (counting in-laws). This was a very large addition to the tiny Swiss settlement at Saxegotha, and more than doubled its population, nearly tripled it. Not surprisingly, one can find a lot of Geiger traces--and multiple documents--during the early years of the Saxegotha settlement. Of course, they were prominent in Saxegotha: there was hardly anybody else there. Harriet Imrey himrey@ntelos.net

Sorry, don't know the current ones--beyond those listed in the Percy Geiger book. I stick pretty much with documentation from Saxegotha SC from 1735-88, a very-limited area of specialization! (But it has enough problems and questions to keep me interested-and-busy for the time being.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Geiger" <jgeiger@sc.rr.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Geiger around Edgefield S.C. Harriet- do you know the current decendants of Herman Geiger? John Geiger

Harriet- do you know the current decendants of Herman Geiger? John Geiger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Imrey" <himrey@ntelos.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Geiger around Edgefield S.C. > At www.palmettoroots.org, scroll down to the section on the left marked > "Palmetto Families" and click on that one. It will take you to an index of > the families that are included. There are many Saxegotha families listed on > it (but no Geigers yet). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JWi4194718@aol.com> > To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Geiger around Edgefield S.C. > > > > In a message dated 8/10/2004 6:15:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, > himrey@ntelos.net writes: > > Elizabeth Hablüzel. See the Gallman family bio for information about the > possibilities for the name of Henry Gallman's first wife. > > Where would i find this?Thanks > > Debra Maddox Wilson > Greenback,Tn > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GEIGER/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

At www.palmettoroots.org, scroll down to the section on the left marked "Palmetto Families" and click on that one. It will take you to an index of the families that are included. There are many Saxegotha families listed on it (but no Geigers yet). ----- Original Message ----- From: <JWi4194718@aol.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Geiger around Edgefield S.C. > In a message dated 8/10/2004 6:15:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, himrey@ntelos.net writes: > Elizabeth Hablüzel. See the Gallman family bio for information about the possibilities for the name of Henry Gallman's first wife. Where would i find this?Thanks Debra Maddox Wilson Greenback,Tn

In a message dated 8/10/2004 6:15:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, himrey@ntelos.net writes: Elizabeth Hablüzel. See the Gallman family bio for information about the possibilities for the name of Henry Gallman's first wife. Where would i find this?Thanks Debra Maddox Wilson Greenback,Tn

They married at some point after Dec 1751 (when Herman Geiger's will was probated) and before Aug 1752. SC Deed Book S-5, 23-26, 17 & 18 Apr 1774, cites a purchase from John Zerricus (Seracous, Circus, etc.) dated 24 & 25 Aug 1752 by "John Gallman and Elizabeth his wife, executors of Herman Geiger decd in behalf of John Conrad Geiger." Since John Gallman and Elizabeth Hablüzel Geiger were both executors of the Herman Geiger will, this Elizabeth Gallman is necessarily the widow of Herman. I agree that Herman's youngest sister Margaret is the "most-likely" first wife of John Gallman, although there is no documentation to prove that. His third wife was definitely a Margaret (and expecting the youngest Gallman son, Henry), per John Gallman's 1758 will. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren A. Smith" <tsgator@earthlink.net> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Geiger around Edgefield S.C. Harriet: Please help me understand your (the popular) belief that John Gallman married Elizabeth Hablüzel, widow of Herman Geiger. I have John Gallman married to Herman's sister, Margaretha (c. 24 Apr 1724), and per his will he was married to a Margaret when he died. She later married Jacob Faust. I know this has been an ongoing puzzlement based, I believe, on the fact that in his will he also calls John Conrad Geiger his stepson (which I cannot explain); however, Herman did not die until after 1751, so when would John Gallman have had time to marry Elizabeth? Thanks, Warren Three of the four unmarried sisters of Herman Geiger survived the voyage in 1736-7, and married the three Gallman brothers who had arrived in Saxegotha in Feb 1735. The youngest Gallman brother, John, second-married Herman Geiger's widow Elizabeth Hablüzel.

Harriet: Please help me understand your (the popular) belief that John Gallman married Elizabeth Hablüzel, widow of Herman Geiger. I have John Gallman married to Herman's sister, Margaretha (c. 24 Apr 1724), and per his will he was married to a Margaret when he died. She later married >Three of the four unmarried sisters of Herman Geiger survived the voyage in 1736-7, and >married the three Gallman brothers who had arrived in Saxegotha in Feb 1735. The youngest Gallman brother, John, second-married Herman Geiger's widow Elizabeth Hablüzel. > Jacob Faust. I know this has been an ongoing puzzlement based, I believe, on the fact that in his will he also calls John Conrad Geiger his stepson (which I cannot explain); however, Herman did not die until after 1751, so when would John Gallman have had time to marry Elizabeth? Thanks, Warren

The region you're seeking is Saxegotha Township (Lexington Co SC), rather than Edgefield SC. Elizabeth Geiger (b. 9 Mar 1740 in Saxegotha SC) was the daughter of Herman Geiger (baptized 18 Dec 1707 in Diepoldsau, Rheintal, currently St. Gall, Switzerland; died Nov 1751 in Saxegotha SC) and Elizabeth Hablüzel (b. 25 Dec 1711 in Trullikon, Zürich; d. Saxegotha SC aft. 1753, bef. 1758). Elizabeth married Henry Gallman (b. 24 Nov 1709 in Mettmenstetten, Zürich; d. 1767 in Saxegotha SC) in ~1758. A summary of the Gallman family of Zürich and Saxegotha is included in the Palmetto Families section of www.palmettoroots.org. Elizabeth Geiger second-married John Adam Horlback (b. 11 Feb 1729 in Plauen, Saxony; d. 1 Apr 1812 in Charleston) on 25 Feb 1769. They had two sons, John (b. 26 Sep 1771) and Henry (b. 27 Nov 1776). Elizabeth died on 5 Nov 1802, and is buried in St. John's Lutheran Church cemetery in Charleston. Henry Gallman's first wife, and the mother of all his children, was a younger sister of Herman Geiger, so the aunt of his second wife Elizabeth. The records do not state which of the sisters he married. Three of the four unmarried sisters of Herman Geiger survived the voyage in 1736-7, and married the three Gallman brothers who had arrived in Saxegotha in Feb 1735. The youngest Gallman brother, John, second-married Herman Geiger's widow Elizabeth Hablüzel. See the Gallman family bio for information about the possibilities for the name of Henry Gallman's first wife. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JWi4194718@aol.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:10 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Geiger around Edgefield S.C. > looking for Geiger family around Edgefield S C.Elizabeth married Henry > Gallman. > > Debra Maddox Wilson > Greenback,Tn

looking for Geiger family around Edgefield S C.Elizabeth married Henry Gallman. Debra Maddox Wilson Greenback,Tn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JOY.2ACEB/901 Message Board Post: He was born in the Middletown, Ohio area. He married Sarah Wallace and they lived in Cuero, Texas then moved to Gonzales, Texas. I beieve Louis Henry Geiger died around 1936.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JOY.2ACEB/900 Message Board Post: Think there were three brothers: Louis, Charlie and Frank. Louis ended up in south Texas and married Sarah Wallace. They had one son, Jess John Geiger and one daughter, Rosemary Jean. Rosemary Jean died very young. While Charlie and Frank moved to the Dayton area. Charlie married and had three daughters: Clara, Florence and Margeurite. Frank never married.

I am not sure where Neil Geiger got the picture of Allen Bethel (1802-1873 and one of his wives Mary Ann Buford 1816-1898, but I have a copy of them and would be willing to scan and post them if they are not already out there. If someone will just tell me if and how I need to do this. Amy Jean Geiger Frydrych

In a message dated 7/31/2004 5:50:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, bzb@houston.rr.com writes: would somebody please enlighten me about our connection with Kyger/Kyzer? ---- Beverly- I'm not aware of any connection between the SC/GA Geiger/Gieger line and any KY Kyger/Kyzers. Perhaps others know of a connection--but I don't. Joan

would somebody please enlighten me about our connection with Kyger/Kyzer? I found a group with names Christian, Jacob, Valentine around 1800 in KY. They had recently migrated their with other church members -- I think from GA. If this is info we need, please let me know and I'll track it down again. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Re: Cousins? Christian Geiger (KYGER) and Paul Geiger of Berwangen and Geigertown? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/895.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Regenia- > > Let's start with your William Giger and his third wife Malinda Vinyard and work back. William was married first to Susannah Deck in 1832 and second to Susan Long in 1845, and third to Malinda Yinyard in 1847. > > William was the son of John Giger and Susannah Creek. Interestingly Susannah Creek was John Giger's step-mother's sister. > > John Giger was the son of Johan George (or George Johan) Geiger and first wife Barbara Klein. After Barbara's death, George married Anna Creek Ortz/Autz, a widow. > > Johan George Geiger was born 2 June 1748 in Lancaster County, PA and is the son of Christian Geiger (the immigrant) and wife Anna Maria Esskuchin. Anna Maria was probably the 2nd wife of Christian. > > Now, the new information we have is that Christian is somehow descended from Paul and Anna Geiger of Richen, in the Northern Kraichgau, Germany, who appeared on the survivor list after the 30 years war. Christian descends somehow from one of the three sons listed with Paul and Anna on this survivor list. Possible Christian descends through Paul and Anna's son Christian but we don't have that for fact as yet. > > Joan > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GEIGER/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JOY.2ACEB/895.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Regenia- Let's start with your William Giger and his third wife Malinda Vinyard and work back. William was married first to Susannah Deck in 1832 and second to Susan Long in 1845, and third to Malinda Yinyard in 1847. William was the son of John Giger and Susannah Creek. Interestingly Susannah Creek was John Giger's step-mother's sister. John Giger was the son of Johan George (or George Johan) Geiger and first wife Barbara Klein. After Barbara's death, George married Anna Creek Ortz/Autz, a widow. Johan George Geiger was born 2 June 1748 in Lancaster County, PA and is the son of Christian Geiger (the immigrant) and wife Anna Maria Esskuchin. Anna Maria was probably the 2nd wife of Christian. Now, the new information we have is that Christian is somehow descended from Paul and Anna Geiger of Richen, in the Northern Kraichgau, Germany, who appeared on the survivor list after the 30 years war. Christian descends somehow from one of the three sons listed with Paul and Anna on this survivor list. Possible Christian descends through Paul and Anna's son Christian but we don't have that for fact as yet. Joan