One additional 17th Century Alsace church record. I wasn't sure which town these records were from and so I didn't include them yesterday. Joan Hangweiler: Geyger, Batten, B., Pfaltzburg. Children: 1. Anna died 20.6.15 Ber. married 23.5.09 Ber. Hans Lentz. (I have no idea what the Ber. stands for). Geiger, Hans, Schweinehirt (swine herdsman), Pfw.von Schilersdorf. married Maria (maiden name unknown). Child: 1. Margretha born 10.8.06. Geiger, Jacob, Es. married Gertrud (maiden name not known). Children: 1. Stephan born 1.7.04. 2. Margretha died -- born 23.3.06. 3. Adam born 30.8.07. 4. Margaretha born 24.5.10. 5. Anstet born 10.5.12. 6. Peter died. 7. Dieboldt died.

In a message dated 98-06-22 13:08:13 EDT, you write: > So far we know that a Johannes Geiger was confirmed in 1819 in Westmoreland > County and that he was baptized in North Annville, in what is now Dauphin > County, in 1798 at Quitopahilla Church. I want to correct an error in the above statement. Quitopahilla Church was in North Annville which was in 1798 in Dauphin County, but is now in Lebanon County--Lebanon County was created from Dauphin and Lancaster in 1813. Sorry! Joan

In a message dated 98-06-22 14:01:41 EDT, you write: > Franklin Twp., Westmoreland Twp., founded 1786, now called Murrysville. > There is no Murrysville Twp. listed. Under cities and boroughs it shows > Murrsville pop. 250,000 in Westmoreland County, Franklin Twp.! So perhaps > it is now an incorporated borough and no longer called a Township. I am not > really familiar with the area. > > Greene and Fayette Counties both have Franklin Twps. > Nedra, thanks! I also got a message from Helen Fest telling me there is a Franklin Township in Washington County. It looks like I will need to do a bit more detective work before I figure this one out. I think my next step is to look for records in any Lutheran Churches in the counties with Franklin Townships. Especially since this Benjamin and family are missing from the census in 1800 as far as I can tell. Joan

I am attempting to help a fellow Geiger researcher and also working on Westmoreland County, PA Geiger information for my own research. So far we know that a Johannes Geiger was confirmed in 1819 in Westmoreland County and that he was baptized in North Annville, in what is now Dauphin County, in 1798 at Quitopahilla Church. The confirmation certificate says that Johannes was born in Franklin Township, Dauphin County. However, I am told by those who research in that area that there is (and never was) a Franklin Township, in this area. My question is this. We know that the confirmation certificate is in error as to the township that Johannes Geiger, son of Benjamin and Catharine Geiger, was born. Might there be confusion with a Franklin Township in Westmoreland County? Does anyone know if there is a Franklin Township in Westmoreland? If so, is there a Lutheran Church in that township that might be the one the confirmation certificate that we have came from? It is not listed on the certificate itself. Thanks, Joan

>From "Pennsylvania Line" Franklin Twp., Westmoreland Twp., founded 1786, now called Murrysville. There is no Murrysville Twp. listed. Under cities and boroughs it shows Murrsville pop. 250,000 in Westmoreland County, Franklin Twp.! So perhaps it is now an incorporated borough and no longer called a Township. I am not really familiar with the area. Greene and Fayette Counties both have Franklin Twps. Nedra At 01:08 PM 6/22/98 EDT, you wrote: >I am attempting to help a fellow Geiger researcher and also working on >Westmoreland County, PA Geiger information for my own research. > >So far we know that a Johannes Geiger was confirmed in 1819 in Westmoreland >County and that he was baptized in North Annville, in what is now Dauphin >County, in 1798 at Quitopahilla Church. The confirmation certificate says >that Johannes was born in Franklin Township, Dauphin County. However, I am >told by those who research in that area that there is (and never was) a >Franklin Township, in this area. > >My question is this. We know that the confirmation certificate is in error as >to the township that Johannes Geiger, son of Benjamin and Catharine Geiger, >was born. Might there be confusion with a Franklin Township in Westmoreland >County? Does anyone know if there is a Franklin Township in Westmoreland? If >so, is there a Lutheran Church in that township that might be the one the >confirmation certificate that we have came from? It is not listed on the >certificate itself. > >Thanks, Joan > > > Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist brillnd@pacifier.com Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, "WVPENDLE@ROOTSWEB.COM"

Earlier I posted some entries from the Alsace records for Geigers and Geyers with some German passages and professions not translated. Here are the translations that go with them. Occupations: Schneider=tailor Schulmeister=Schoolmaster Hofsattlemeister=estate saddler--saddle-maker Schuhmacher=shoemaker Pfarrer=minister Pf�rtner=porter or door-keeper translations of German passages: von ihrem Vetter dem Sattler-Michel Geyer-Begraben=buried by their cousin the saddler Michel Geyer (probably means buried at his expense) Uber die Stadtmauer gefallen=fell over the city wall welcher nach Stra�burg geflohen und von dannen krank wiederkommen=who fled to Strassburg and then from sickness returned (he didn't just leave--he fled--and returned in sickness) sp�ter in L�tzelstein=formerly from L�tzelstein Sebastian Geiger--I had stated he was Master Juror for one year--it is more like the Chief Judge in American terms. Joan

I have the transcripts of the work of Dr. Gerhard Hein "Die Einwohner des Krummen Elsa� und seiner Umgebung vor 1700" (The inhabitants of Alsace and surroundings before 1700) for the Geiger and Geyer listings for Vinstingen (Fenetrange), L�tzelstein (Le Petite Pierre), Volksberg, Bochenheim (both Protestant and Catholic). They are as follows: L�tzelstein Lutheran (La Petite Pierre): Geier: Hans Niclaus, Schneider, Puberg, married first--Anna Margaretha (maiden name unknown) of L�tzelstein--she died 8.9.1714, and he married second--26.2.1715 Eva Christina Burg--of L�tzelstein, her father Jeremias, Schulmeister L�tzelstein. Married third 30.4.1720 Maria Margaretha Brey, of Hambach. Geyer, Jacob, Zittersheim. Geyer, Michel, Hofsattlermeister, L�tzelstein, died 9.9.74. Father Sebastian, Vinstingen, married 2. 5.11.39 Catharina (maiden name unknown). Widow of G�rg Hans Stumpt. Children 1. Hans Nickel born 13.9.40, married 23.11.65 Anna Margretha Cron, her father Peter, of Petersbach. 2. Anna Christina born 28.10.42, died 28.2.1713, married 31.10.65 Hans Jacob Zentz, his father Lorenz, of Petersbach. 3. Maria Catharine born 12.1.45, died 21.4.45. 4. Maria Catharina born 19.3.46, married 23.1.73 Hans Jacob Ertzbischof, his father Hans, Soldier, L�tzelstein. 5. Vix born 31.8.48. 6. Hans Basch born 2.11.51. 7. Hans Michel born 11.5.54, died 10.4.1720. Geyer, Michel, L�tzelstein, died 19.4.1720--66 Years old. Married (Anna-) Catharina (maiden name unknown) died -.1.1720 at 70 years of age. Children: 1. Hans Jacob born 16.2.81, married 20.2.1703 in L�tzelstein Maria Christina Burck, her father Hans Henrich of L�tzelstein. 2. Anna Catharina born 23.12.82. 3. Johann Michael, Schuhmacher, married 16.5.1713 in L�tzelstein Maria Dorothea Kneysel, her father Rudolf B�cher of L�tzelstein. Geyer, Wilhelm died before 42, Vinstingen. Children: 1. Susel, died 2.4.42 in L�tzelstein "von ihrem Vetter dem Sattler-Michel Geyer-Begraben." Geyer, Hans Bastian, L�tzelstein, died 2.2.1706 at 55 years of age. Married Anna Ursula (maiden name unknown). Children: 1. Maria Margretha born 18.12.79. 2. Hans Niclaus, married 13.5.1710 in L�tzelstein Anna Margretha Metzger, her father Hans Peter of Weinberg. 3. Maria Ursula, died 10.2.1706 (at 14 years). Geiger, Jans Jacob, Puberg, married Anna Margaretha (maiden name unknown). Children: 1. Hans Georg born 12.11.68. Geiger, Hans Jacob, L�tzelstein, married Anna Christian (maiden name unknown), died 23.12.1708 at age 33. Children: 1. Christina Margaretha, died 25.2.1706 (4 weeks of age), 2. Hans Peter, died 13.3.1712 (at 4 months and 14 days), 3. Johann Adam, died 24.7.1712 (4 years, 9 months Uber die Stadtmauer gefallen). Geiger, Hans Niclaus, auf dem Puberg, father Michel, of L�tzelstein, married 23.11.65 Anna Margaretha Cron, her father Peter, of Petersbach. Children 1. Hans Peter born 4.3.67, died 9.1.1744. 2. Hans Jacob born 30.6.70, married 28.4.1711 in L�tzelstein, Anna Regina Hof, father Hans Peter, Niederbronn. 3. Philipp Heinrich born 24.9.71. Geiger, Tobias, Pfarrer, Weitersweiler, married Ludovica (maiden name unknown). Geiger, Velten, Pf�rtner, married Johannet (maiden name unknown). Children: 1. Anna Catharina born 3.4.38. 2. Hans Velten born 9.11.41. Vinstigen (Fenetrange): Geyer, Georg died 12.11.33 (welcher nach Stra�burg geflohen und von dannen krank wiederkommen). Children: 1. Georg born 25./30.12.25. Gayer, Hans Michel born 12.7.07, father Sebastian, sp�ter in L�tzelstein, Sattler, married 17.1.30 Maria Magdalena Schilts, her father Hans, Stiefv. (her stepfather): Hans Georg Hafner, died 13.2.37. Children 1. Agnes born 19.3.35. Geiger, Mathis married 3.Epiph.37 Maria Magdlen (maiden name unknown) Children: 1. Maria Margaretha born 6.2.38. 2. Tochter (daughter) born 29.9.40. 3. Johann Jacob born 24.6.43 died 27.6.433. 4. Johann Hermann born 16.3.45. 5. Ludwig born 28.3.47. Geiger, Sebastian, born about 1554, died 3.12.21 (about 67 years old). "20 Jahr im Gerichtsstuhl allhier und ein Jahr Meistersch�ffe gewesen"--sat on the Court of Justice for 20 years and was Master Juror for one year) married Katrin (maiden name unknown). Children: 1. Matthias born 29.3.03, died 22.7.03. 2. Matthis born 16.6.05 married 3.Epiph.37 Maria Magdlen (maiden name unknown), 3. Michael born 12.7.07, died in L�tzelstein married 17.1.30 Maria Magdalena Schilts. 4. Hans Jacob born 1.7.09. 5. Sebastian born 10.4.12. 6. Johannes born 3.6.15, and died 8.6.24. 7. Wilhelm married Clarina (maiden name unknown), 8. Margreta married 25.2.06, 9. Martha, 10. Agnes, 11. Georg. Geiger, Wilhelm, father Sebastian, married Clarina. Children: 1. Anna Catharina born 14.15.2.25 (this is how it is listed), 2. Susanna born 18.4.26, died 2.4.42 L�tzelstein, 3. Agnes born 6./8.12.27, 4. Hans Wilhelm born 10./12.11.30, 5. Anna Maria born 29.6.34., 6. Hans Wilhelm born 10.Trin.36, died 10.4.38, 7. T�chterlein (infant daughter) died 11.8.35. Bochenheim (Protestant): Geyer, Jacob, Zimmermann (carpenter), V�llerdingen, married Anna (maiden name unknown). Children: 1. Ottillia born 19.3.69, 2. Hans Niclau� born 3.4.70. Geyer, Jacob, B�tten, Children: 1. Kunigunda, married 14.2.68 in B�tten Stoffel Reppert, father Hans Conrad, Glasmacher, H�tte. (glassmaker) Geiger, Fritz, children: 1. Catharina Maria born 17.1.13, 2. Johann Ulrich born 9.7.20, 3. (Stieftochter--stepdaughter) Catharina, 4. (Stieftochter--stepdaughter) Engel, married Hans Schuhmacher, 5. (Stieftochter--stepdaughter) Denigma, 7. (Stieftochter--stepdaughter) Margretha, 8. Catharina Margaretha. Geiger, Sebastian, Vinstingen married--no name for wife. Geiger, Tobias, born in Windesheim/Franken. Immatr. 29.8.55 in Stra�burg, Pfarrer (pastor) in Weitersweiler. Bochenheim (Catholic): Geiger, Stephan, Waldhambach, married Margaretha (maiden name unknown). Children 1. Susanna Margaretha born 20.1.84 in Waldhambach. Saarwerden (Catholic): Gieger, Nicolaus, Me�priester, born in Bockenheim about 1536, und Kath. Pfr. in Pisdorf 1536-1540. (Catholic Priest) That's it for now! Joan

Welcome Beth from yoiur cousin of sorts. My name is Dorothy Vekasi and I live in Naples, Florida. I originated from northern Indiana. Our Kyger lines mesh with Daniel and Charity (Lines) Kyger. I have just returned from a trip and will be in touch again when I get caught up. It is wonderful to be part of such a knowledgable group. Dorothy Vekasi

I just found a new Kiger looking for her family tree. I hope Catherine Moon won't mind my posting this information to the list (she is not yet a subscriber) since I know that several of our list members will be interested in adding this to their files on this Kiger family. Catherine's message follows and it includes some new information (at least to me) on the descendants of Lyman Barr and Sarah Kiger. Sarah is the daughter of John Kiger and Elizabeth Bollenbaugh and John Kiger is the son of Henry Kiger and Polly Walduck. Henry of course is the son of George Kiger and his wife Margaret. "Lyman Barr's father was an Edward Barr. I don't know who Edward Barr married, nor do I know dates for Lyman or Edward (I wish I did; that's another thing on my list I'm working on). I only have one child listed for Lyman Barr and Sarah Kiger (thank you for filling in her first name for me!). There were probably other children, but I only have one listed on my file so far. The child I have for Lyman Barr and Sarah Kiger is John "Edward" Barr b.13Nov1867 Amanda Township, OH d.01May1917 Pickaway Co., OH buried in Amanda, OH. John "Edward" Barr married Minnie Tipton on 15Sep1892. Minnie Tipton was b.28Jan1870 in Royalton, OH d.25Jul1948. Minnie Tipton and John "Edward" Barr had three children." At this point Catherine gave me more information but many of the people listed are still living so I won't post that information to the list without Catherine's permission. If anyone has additional information to add to Catherine's file I would be happy to relay the information to her. Joan

I just had the opportunity to check the 1860 census listings for Wetzel and Monongalia County, WV for 1860 (don't forget that WV was still a part of VA at this time) and found the following: Wetzel County: James Kiger, age 63 in Pine Grove P.O., page 59 (just above the entry for his son William below). (can't read entry for where born --but he was born in PA) William P. Kiger, Pine Grove P.O. page 59, age 28 (all born PA but entry too faint to read) Julia age 25 Martha P. age 3 Mary U. age 3 James D. age 2 Rachel Ann age too faint to read--but it is a fraction of a year. Charles Kiger, Pine Grove P.O., page 59, age 46, born PA, (appears one entry below the listing for William above) Sarah A. age 44, born PA Nancy age 17 (looks like 11 but should be 17 as she is listed in this position on the record) born PA Margaret age 16, born PA Helen Ann age 14, born VA Cynthie age 11, born VA Elizabeth age 8, born VA Barbara age 6, born VA Sarah J. age 4, born VA Jacob L. age 1, born VA >From other sources I know that Nancy would have been 17, and that Jacob Lindsay died in 1876, Helen is actually Ella Ann, and that the maiden name of Sarah A. is Davis. >From other evidence I know that James Kiger had another son George W. Kiger born about 1820. Where is George W. Kiger in 1860? Monongalia County: Fielding Kiger, age 73, Morgantown, Tanner, page 14, born VA. James Demaine, 28, born England Caroline Demaine, 25, born VA Mary B. Demaine, 7, born VA Asa O'Kelley 15 day laborer, born VA NOTE: occasionally Fielding Kiger appears as Fielding Kyger on some records. George Kiger, Morgantown, age 47, born VA (entry is just above Fielding Kiger), tanner, Mary, age 41, born VA Andrew, 17 (children all born VA) Virginia, 15 Winfield, 13 Fielding, 12 Mary E., 7 George, 5 Nathan, 2 John 2/12 Mary Conner, 67, born VA (could this be the mother-in-law?) Jacob Kiger, age 35, tanner, Morgantown (all entries born VA), (appears one entry below Fielding Kiger) Elizabeth, 26 Olivia, 11 Norvel, 6 Jacob N., 2 George O'Kelley, age 15, day laborer, born VA (is he the twin to Asa above?) Barbara Kiger, age 49, (all entries born PA) Wadestown, page 288-289 Charles, 32 (note it clearly says age 32 but Charles should be age 22) Mary, 17 Peter, 15 Nikolas 11 Ewing, 7 >From other evidence it is clear that this is Barbara Hochstetler/Hostutler, widow of Nicholas Kiger (younger brother to James Kiger listed above in Wetzel County) and that these are all of their children still living at home in 1860. Can anyone determine the relationship between Fielding Kiger, born about 1787, of Monongalia County, WV, and James Kiger of Wetzel County. I feel certain there is one. Could Fielding Kiger be a younger brother of James' father Charles Kiger born about1770-1774? Joan

If you have any information on this family please reply to the list or Glenda Sue directly. Joan

In a message dated 98-06-18 20:43:56 EDT, you write: > Murvin Mack not sure of his or wifes burial place. Believed to have had 8 > children missing lot of data. Order of birth believed to be as follows. > 1. Phoebe Alda B-3-Dec-1870 in Ohio, nothing else > 2. Hannah Rosetta B-21-Sep-1872 in Ohio, nothing else > 3. Anna Isabel B-25-Oct-1874 in Ohio, nothing else > 3. Charles Roy B-25-May-1877 in Ohio, nothing else > 5. Christena believed born in Kansas after family moved in 1879 to Kansas, > nothing else > 6. No data. > 7. No data. > 8. Jennie, believed to married a Unknown Mossman, nothing else. Chas, there is some information on the children of Murvin Mack Kiger listed in the IGI at the LDS (but nothing to add to what you already know). Perhaps you could find out the name and address of the submitter and contact them. Have you checked the Broderbund World Family Tree CDs to see if the person also submitted the data to them? Joan

In a message dated 98-06-18 20:43:56 EDT, you write: > 4. Missing dates for Markwood. They also had 5 children, some data missing. > 1. William 1872-1903 no other data. > 2. Charles 1875-1915 no other data. > 3. Harvey Monroe 1878-1968 have other data. > 4. Myrtle J 1880, no other data. > 5. Peter Boyd 1883-1976 have other data > 5. Okay Chas, I would have sworn I gave you this--sorry. Daid Brasher Markwood: bron 14 December 1849 in Pendleton Co., Virginia, christened United Brethren Church, Lancaster, Ohio. Married 17 Sept. 1871, Fairfield County, Ohio. died 27 Reb 1928 Hooker, Farifield Co., Ohio. You said you already have the parents so I won't list them. Children of David Brasher Markwood and Minerva Elizabeth Kiger: 1. William F. Markwood, born 4 July 1872 and died 10 Oct. 1903. 2. Charles W. Markwood, born 10 August 1874 and died May 1915. 3&4. Twins born 23 Sept. 1876 and died the same day. 5. Harvey Monroe Markwood born 12 April 1878 and died 3 Mar. 1968 in Lancaster, Ohio, married 1 Nov. 1900 in Circleville to Blanche Mary Valentine. 6. Myrtle J. Markwood, born 1 Dec. 1880, died before 1928. 7. Peter Boyd Markwood, born 13 December 1883 in Fairfield County, Ohio, died 31 October 1976 in Lancaster, Ohio, and married 3 January 1905 to Nellie Wise Logan. Joan

In a message dated 98-06-18 23:27:40 EDT, you write: > The Henckel Genealogy shows these dates for Leonard but no connection to > John George was known. It also mentions Lorenz Geiger and wife, Anna Maria, > who appear in the records of Apple's Church as sponsors for Juliana > Mathias, duaghter of Jacob and Susannah Mathias. Again, no relationship was > known. Nedra, thanks for the information--and as you say why can't we find the Geigers so easily? Yes, Leonard Geiger is somewhat of a mystery to me and Lorenz Geiger I have found nowhere other than the Henckel genealogy. The fact that Leonard's name appears in one Maryland record in connection with the Troxels make me suspect a previous connection with that family in Berks- Lehigh-Northampton PA where the Troxels and Geigers were closely allied. Joan

Trying Again, need some help filling in some holes. Thanx Chas

>>From Names in Stone Vol. 1 Frederick County Cemeteries: >Thurmont (Apple's Church): Leonard Geiger 31 Oct 1833, 77-11-22 (which would >mean he was born in 1755) and his wife Eve M. died 5 Aug. 1849 age 75-5-7 Maria Catherine Henckel married (1) John George Geiger, son of Valentine, Senior. She married (2) Peter Apple/Appel who donated the land for this Apple's Church near Thurmont, MD.. The Henckel Genealogy shows these dates for Leonard but no connection to John George was known. It also mentions Lorenz Geiger and wife, Anna Maria, who appear in the records of Apple's Church as sponsors for Juliana Mathias, duaghter of Jacob and Susannah Mathias. Again, no relationship was known. Will of Martin Harry, Senior, of Elizabeth Town. Will dated 28 February 1787: wife Elizabeth, sons Jonathan, David, Charles, Martin, Jacob, John and Andrew. Wit. Alexr. Clagett, Elie Williams, Peter Baker. Proved 6 September 1788. Recorded Washington Co. Will Book A:84. [taken from much more complete abstract in Western Maryland Genealogy 10:84 (April 1994)] "My seven sons" are mentioned several times but no mention made of any daughter. The original of this will is at the Maryland State Archives. Will of Mathias Sayler of Haberstown, Washington County [not dated] son Peter, daughter Catherine Leatherman, wife of Frederick, son John, daughters Mary Elizabeth Harry, wife of Jacob, Susannah Harry, wife of Martin, and Elizabeth Harry, wife of John. Wife Magdalena. proved 10 Sept 1785, recorded Washington Co., MD, WB A:115-116. [From abstract in West MD Genealogy 9:168-69 (Oct. 1993.)] It would appear that these were the wives of the sons of Martin Harry, Senior. No why can't we find info on the Geiger as easily? Nedra Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist brillnd@pacifier.com Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, "WVPENDLE@ROOTSWEB.COM"

In a message dated 98-06-18 08:19:37 EDT, boydruda@jmu.edu writes: > Recently Joan mentioned the will of Susanna GEIGER (dated 8 July 1808) of > Hagerstown, Maryland. Here's a family group that may be "connected." It is a > work in progress at best. Would appreciate comments. Dorothy, it would seem that the newly located will of Susanna Geiger would force a revision to your FGS (in progress). The way I would read it is that Susanna Saylor married twice--first to Martin Harry, Jr. and with his she had the following children probably in this order: Jacob Harry John Harry Elizabeth Harry George Martin Harry Amelia Harry It would then appear that he died and she remarried an unknown Geiger and had the following children from the second marriage: Jacob Geiger Frances Geiger Eleanor Geiger Henrietta Geiger My guess would be that Frances didn't marry a Geiger, she WAS a Geiger (or perhaps she was a Geiger who married a Geiger). I have my suspicions that the son Jacob Geiger may be the Jacob Geiger that shows up in the History of Washington County, MD in 1813 as a Private in the Hagerstown Militia. There is also an entry about Rev. Jacob Geiger, Ref. minister in Carroll County, MD from 1823-1848 who died 19 Oct. 1848 at the age of 55 years and 2 days making his birthdate 17 Oct. 1793. His first wife was a daughter of Jacob and Mary Seltzer. The first wife died in 1835. In Hagerstown records I also found the following other Geigers: John Geiger and Jas. Geiger: 1791 and on I find John Geiger-militia Capt. in 1793-1794, 1793 Commissioner, 1800 Hagerstown Judge of Elections, Trustee of Sr. John's Lutheran Church in 1791, 1795 school board member (along with a Jas. Geiger). 1790 Merchants: Geiger and Harry--Hagerstown. >From History or Washington County, MD: "Miss Elizabeth Harry was connected with one of the original families of the town (Hagerstown), and there reared her three nieces, the Misses Geiger, who became the wives of Rev. Mr. Johns, Tilghman Holliday and Benjamin G. Fitzhugh." Also from the History of Washington County: "John Geiger associated John Harry with him in the dry-goods business, Feb. 23, 1803, and of the same date Jacob Harry opened his dry-goods business in the store-room formerly occupied by Samuel and David Claggett." Elsewhere John Geiger is identified as a tanner. Also from the History of Washington County: "Mrs. Sarah E. Baker, wife of George, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth (Kiger) Criswell, natives of Virginia. Elizabeth Ellen Kiger born 30 April 1816 married Joseph Criswell at Boonsboro on 8 April, 1834." >From Western Maryland Newspaper Abstracts: WSM Nov. 18, 1790 Susanna Geiger, Jacob Harry, Hagerstown, request payment to estate of Martin Harry, decd. In Funkstown I found: 1786 Frederick Geiger--subscriber to a newspaper. 1857 Frederick Geiger is Trustee of German Ref. Church in Funkstown (possibly a son of the earlier Frederick?). Carroll County Geigers: Peter Geiger 1837 County Commissioner--Peter Geiger born 19 May 1784 and died 7 August 1858 buried with Charlotte his wife. >From History of Western Maryland: town of Manchester: Joseph Geiger 1828 Dr. Charles Geiger 1836 --both named in this book. Frederick County, MD census 1790: John Kiger: 2 free white males 16 and over, 3 white males under 16, 3 free white females Leonard Kiger: 1 free white male over 16, 3 free white females Leonhard Kiger: 2 free white males over 16, 5 free white females >From Names in Stone Vol. 1 Frederick County Cemeteries: Thurmont (Apple's Church): Leonard Geiger 31 Oct 1833, 77-11-22 (which would mean he was born in 1755) and his wife Eve M. died 5 Aug. 1849 age 75-5-7 Records of the Frederick, MD Evangelical Lutheran Church: October 9, 1787--marriage of Johannes Groschang and Anna Maria Geigern proclaimed. Witnesses: Jacob Drachsel (Troxel), Leonhardt Geiger, Owen McDonald. NOTE: The Troxels were very much allied with the Geigers of Egypt Church in Lehigh County (now Northampton) before moving to Maryland. These records can be found on the Internet at the Lehigh County Genweb site. March 31, 1782--marriage of Jacob Haux and Catharina Schulzin--among the witnesses are Jacob Geiger and wife Elizabeth (this would be Jacob Geiger, son of Valentine Geiger, Jr. and his first wife Sarah Vetato). June 6, 1802--marriage of Mr. Christopher Pellmann and widow Elizabeth Edward, nee Geiger, in the presence of various friend, in the house of Mr. Christoph berheusler, after thrice proclaimed. >From Maryland Marriages 1778-1800: John Kiger married 23 March 1791 ro Esther Shitzen in Frederick County. Frederick County Land records: resurveyed land: name--"Discontentment"--244 acres--Jacob Geger 1793. Query on Mid-Atlantic Roots list July 10, 97: Looking for information about Israel H.L. Norris who married Margaret Geiger or Maryland (Carroll County- Frederick Co.) on 22 May 1849. She was his second wife. The couple had three children between 1850-1856. OK--now you all know just about everything I know about Geigers and Kigers in Maryland. Can anyone fit them all in their rightful places? Joan

Thank you Sara! I have old letters that were written in the 50s regarding the settlement of my grandmother's estate in Germany. It was a huge estate, with a factory and she built it up after her husband died in 1905. Raised her children with the help of a nanny. I have gorgeous pictures of the home and the backyard scenes when my father was a child. Gorgeous pictures in perfect shape. She sent pictures of my 4th great grandmother and many of the early relatives. As an ardant geneologist when I was born, she sent a charyt for my father to fill out. He didn't but I have all of her many missels she sent. She and an Uncle took 14 years to document with the help of professionals the hisory of my father's family which were a titled family. In 1936 they published a few copies of the books for family members. I got one through a fluke after my father's death. So the 27 generations are intact as I had them translated by a German translator who married a GI and came to the USA. However the history of what happened after the bombing of the house and factory and the death of all my male first cousins in WWII has left a void. These few letters mean a lot to me. What a legacy my Grandmother left me. Wish I had gotten to meet her but her Letters I still have laboriously written in English with a German English dictionary. Too bad this didn't tie to the Geigers, which are my husband's mother's lineage. Edel Helene Louise von Metnitz Pockrus-just call me Helene John & Sara Jadik wrote: > > In response to Helene's e-mail, I'm waiting to hear back from two of the > professional translators as to their specific information and will get it to > you guys as soon as I can. I'll be off-line for the next month so unless > they e-mail me tomorrow it will be mid-July before I have the information > but will get it to you as soon as I can. > > Thanks, > Sara

In response to Helene's e-mail, I'm waiting to hear back from two of the professional translators as to their specific information and will get it to you guys as soon as I can. I'll be off-line for the next month so unless they e-mail me tomorrow it will be mid-July before I have the information but will get it to you as soon as I can. Thanks, Sara

I just received the following from another researcher. Does anyone have any further information on these Geigers. It would appear from this will of Susanna Geiger that she was married to someone with the surname Harry prior to her marriage to a Geiger and that she had children from both marriages. Note also that these Geigers were slave owners which is somewhat unusual for the Germans. Joan Washington Co. Md. Wills, Liber B., page 244-245. Susanna GEIGER of Hagerstown. Will Dated 8 Jul 1808, sick. To dau Elizabeth Harry: (list of furniture), To dau Amelia Harry (List), Residue Equally among my two daughters, except what is bequeathed to my three youngest daughters. To Francis GEIGER, Eleanor GEIGER, and Henrietta GEIGER all the clothing, quilts, tablecloths. To son Jacob, his father's clothing. My negroes and carriage and horse to be sold and the money to children: Jacob Harry, John Harry, Elizabeth Harry, George Harry, Amelia Harry, Jacob GEIGER, Francis GEIGER, Eleanor GEIGER and Henrietta GEIGER equally. Money to all equally. Sons John Harry and George Harry executors. signed with an X. Witnesses George Schmucker, Daid Harry, A.M. Waugh, proved 3 Nov 1808.