In a message dated 98-06-27 16:19:50 EDT, you write: > I was going to answer your other post, but will do it here. Verda and > James had a child born in 1933, so I guess we could "guesstimate" that > they were married around 1932/33. I don't know where the name Leota came > from right now, but I'll make inquiries and let you know. You can see > that it was passed on in the family. Kay, I would guess then that the list Maggie found at the FTM website was listing birthdates then and not marriage dates--perhaps that is true for all the entries she listed. The name Leota (which I find unusual unless it is a surname from somewhere way back--it sounds Italian but COULD be Swiss or French) appears in the Greene County, PA Kiger family when Sarah Leota Kiger was born 21 March 1875 to Benjamin F. Kiger and his wife Casandra A. Thomas. Also Charles Evan Kiger and his second wife Catherine C. Connor had a daughter Bertha Leone Kiger born in 1882--very similar and perhaps a misspelling of Leota--she died young and all I have to go by is her tombstone. Charles Evan Kiger and Benjamin F. Kiger are first cousins--grandsons of Charles Kiger the progenitor of the Greene County Kiger family. Notice also that one of these Kigers above intermarried with a Connor. I believe that George Kiger (born about 1803), son of Fielding Kiger (born about 1787) of Monongalia County, VA (WV) also married a Connor. The Greene County Kigers tell me that the descendants of Fielding Kiger have long been a part of their family reunions--but the relationship has been forgotten. Add to that the fact that Fielding Kiger's wife Polly Madeira (born in Berks County, PA) had a sister Elizabeth who married Capt. Zackquill Morgan of Morgantown, WV. Kay, didn't one or more of YOUR Kygers marry into the Morgantown Morgans? I don't have too much trouble now separating the two Daniel Kygers. One Daniel (originally born Benjamin) was born in 1772 and married Anne Teagarden in Hampshire County, now WV and moved to Butler County, Ohio. We have their descendants and also his ancestors going back to John Georg Geiger and Maria Catharina Henckel. The other Daniel (yours) was born in 1762 and married in Monongalia County, now WV to Anna Henthorne I think in the 1790s if memory serves me right. They moved to Monroe County, Ohio and later to Vermilion County, IL. Also, in this cast of characters we have John Kiger/Kyger who married Sarah Parrish in KY in the 1790s. I toss them into the same pot since they also have a connection to the Henthornes. There are many coincidences within these various Kiger and Kyger families which indicate to me they are related in some way. I think we need to get all of the cards on the table where these Kiger/Kyger families are concerned. I think we will find John Georg Geiger and his brother Valentine at the root of all of the above--one or the other of them--but thinking and proving are two different things! Joan

In a message dated 98-06-27 15:58:40 EDT, randis@madison.tdsnet.com writes: > I DO plan to get to White County, IN, (Monon) in near future as Dorothy > and I have discussed on a couple of occasions. Will look for probate on > Vird and/or Margaret as well as guardianship court records, land records > in Monon Twp, obits, etc. Will try to tie that to trip to Clinton Co, > IN to check on the land left there by Samuel KYGER who went back to Ohio > FROM Indiana in 1847, passing away on 2 Dec 1848 in Warren Co, OH. > > In short....the answer is "YEP". Dick, thanks! Of course we now all know that at least in part my theory is dead wrong!! Your research will end up helping someone--maybe you and Dorothy and maybe Kay--but the more we learn, it is bound to help someone! Joan

Good afternoon, Dorothy: I just put out a message with the family of Verda Belle Kyger. As I mentioned in it, I don't recognize any of the other Kyger names. Our Kyger family is so large, we haven't been able to contact all of them. We do, however, have a large number of them and are always looking for more. I wish I could be of more help to you. Keep asking though. You never know who will find another member for you...and yes, it is lots of fun. Kay in Smoky FL ************** >Dear Kay, >Indeed, I am interested. Perhaps you saw the list of Kygers a couple of days >ago that contained some of your family and some of my family. It was simply >posted to help those trying to sort out all the Kyger/Kiger/Geiger/etc >families. The person in whom I am particularly interested is Ulysses Vird >Kyger. He is with my family but with a different wife. My mother told me he >went to town and was never seen again. I'd love to solve this mystery. Do >you have Vird in your family or know anything about him or the wife listed as >Ella Y. Payton? When part of my family, he was married to Margaret McCaw and >had three children. The youngest died early as well as Margaret. > >Please post your family names (plus date, places, etc if you have them) and we >can see if we cross lines at some point. What fun this is! > >Dorothy Vekasi > >

Joan: I missed this message when it first came out. However, I have read it and found that part of it is wrong. Please note the section on Verda B. Kyger: ************************ >In a message dated 98-06-26 11:12:52 EDT, you write: > >> I just looked at your list again. I'll bet some (Mary M. Kyger who m. Alvin >> T. Hughes, >> Viola Kyger who m. Irving Hendricks, Verda B. Kyger who m. James A. >Elliot, >> Ulysses >> V. Kyger who m. Ella Y. Payton, and Mary L. Kyger who m. John W Ayers >belong >> to >> other Kyger families. Joan will be glad to get that information as they >are >> in the process >> of trying to straighten out all the Kiger families in Indiana and Ohio. > >Dorothy and Maggie, I don't think these are from other Kiger/Kyger families >(at least most of them). Here is my take on the situation. Keep in mind this >is only educated guesswork. How does this add up for both of you? > >Vird Kyger born 23 Mar., 1831 marries first Margaret McCaw as in Dorothy's >chart. Vird leaves home on horseback--adios, goodbye. His baby son and wife >die soon after. He remarries to Ella Y. Payton on Nov. 3, 1874 (and most >likely this family never knows about the first one--this will truly be fun if >we can bring together descendants of both families, won't it now?) and has the >following children: ********************* Verda Belle Kyger is a descendant of Daniel and Anna Henthorn Kyger. Here is her line: Daniel & Anna Henthorn Kyger Henry Kyger b 1804 +Elizabeth Sims Malissa Ann Kyger 1829 Catherine Kyger 1832 --->> Charles Kyger 1834 Daniel Kyger 1836 Mary Jane Kyger 1838 Adam Kyger 1840 Henry Kyger 1843 Terrisa Kyger 1846 Charles Kyger married Susannah Force William Henry Kyger 1860 +Susan Belle Rodgers Ira Kyger --->> Charles Kyger 1888 Leota Kyger 1890 Charles Kyger married Ethel B. Jenkins Verda Belle Kyger 1912 Mildred Leota Kyger 1914 Ethel Lucille Kyger 1917 Alonzo Charles Kyger 1924 Iris Irene Kyger 1926 Verda Belle Kyger married James A. Elliot. I don't have a marriage date, but do know that Verda and James were divorced. I don't recognize any of the other Kyger names. I hope this helps. Kay ************************** <Verda B. Kyger (named for him of course--she was most likely supposed to be a >boy)--and she marries James A. Elliot on Jan. 6, 1911

In a message dated 98-06-27 11:59:14 EDT, you write: > I have read it and > found that part of it is wrong. Please note the section on Verda B. Kyger: Kay, I will defer to your knowledge of these Kygers--I was only presenting a possible theory in that VERDA DOES sound a bit like something a man named VIRD would name a daughter when he didn't have a son to name after himself. Also, something is wrong with the picture here. If Verda Belle Kyger was born in 1912 she cannot have married in 1911--perhaps this is a birth year and not a marriage year? Kay, I know a long time ago you had sent me some of your Kyger family files but I am not sure I ever saw the ones you just posted. If I did it was long before I knew what I now know about the Kigers of Greene County, Pennsylvania. The summer 1998 issue of The Kiger Kounter newsletter was mailed yesterday and you should be receiving it shortly. It gives great detail on the Greene County Kigers. Seeing the names in the chart you just sent I want you to read the Greene County article carefully. Although the Greene County family spelled the surname Kiger and yours spelled the name with a Y there is NO doubt in my mind that the families are connected to each other. The fun is going to be in figuring out just HOW they are related. Do you have any idea where the name Leota came from in the family of William Henry Kyger and Susan Belle Rodgers? It also appears in the Greene County Kiger family. I have never heard that name elswhere. I have said from the beginning that you and Dorothy and the other need to compare files and we need to put information on Fielding Kyger/Kiger into the picture also. These Kiger/Kygers are all related back there somewhere. Joan

Hi, Helene! Since I moved in December, my gen. library has been upside down (& I fear some books missing - maybe for good), but I did find Vol. 2 of GATEWAY TO THE WEST (Bowers & Short - early settlers in OHIO) which indexes: Kigar, Hannah 590; Kiger, Isaac 590; Kiger, George 709 Kiger, Jeremiah 764; Kiger, Rachel 589 Geiger, Henry 388 Harrison: Aaron, Alexander, America, Benjamin, Caroline, Cassandrea, Catharine, Charles, Edmon, Eli, Elizabeth, James G., Jesse, Leonard B., Margaret, Mary M., Mathew, Nancy, P., Rachell, Sarah, Talmon, William, William H.

In a message dated 98-06-27 05:13:14 EDT, you write: > Mary Elizabeth GEIGER is the daughter of Johan Adam GEIGER and Maria > Margaretha FIEDLER, born 13 July 1765 somewhere in Pennsylvania. > She married John SPEAS (SPIES, SPEACE, spelling varies) about 1787, prob- > ably in Surry/Stokes County, North Carolina (?). Parts of Stokes are now in > Forsyth County. She died 24 December 1829 in Rural Hall, Stokes County, and > is interred in the Nazareth Lutheran Church cemetery in Rural Hall, now > Forsyth County. These dates are on her tombstone, excepting the marriage. Désirée, I am not disputing anything that you have written above. I DO believe that Mary Elizabeth is the oldest daughter of John Adam Geiger and Maria Margaretha Fiedler. What I meant by the statement that she is PRESUMED to be their daughter is that unlike the children actually named in Adam's will we have no concrete proof that I am aware of (other than family records) of the relationship. I believe she is named in the will by inference--the inclusion of her husband John Speace as executor--but it isn't quite the same as the other children who ARE named specifically. Adam Geiger died in 1827 and Mary Elizabeth was still lving at this time--it is a bit odd that she is not named in the will when the other children are specifically named. My previous statements about the names and ages of the children of the marriage of Adam Geiger and Maria Margaretha I will repeat below listing the sources: As far as I know the ONLY Geigers or Kigers in Stokes County in 1787 were the family of Johann Adam Geiger and Maria Margaretha Fiedler. The children of this family as I know them are: Mary Elizabeth Geiger (presumed daughter) born 1765--this is based on the family records and research Désirée lists above. Johann Adam Geiger, Jr. baptized March 8, 1767--Adam, Jr. is listed in the research of Bob Kiger of Shelby, NC as being one of two sons (Henry being the other) for which we don't have a date of birth--he was presumed to have been born about 1771--however, I have uncovered a bapt. record which I believe to be that of Adam, Jr. from the Blue Mountain Church in Berks County, PA which gives his date of bapt. as shown above. This bapt. record actually strengthens the argument for Mary Elizabeth Geiger being the oldest child of Adam and Maria Margretha since she most likely was bapt. at this same church 2 years earlier. The records for Blue Mountain Church have been lost prior to 1767 and I believe this is where the early records for this family would be found if extant. It would explain why no bapt. record can be found for her. The church is less than 2 miles from the church where Maria Margaretha was bapt. in 1747 and where her parents lived. This is my basis for the assumption that this is the North Carolina Adam Geiger, Jr. in these records--I cannot account for this AdamSr. and Jr. in any other known Geiger family and believe me I have looked long and hard .Anna Christina Geiger born September 20, 1769 Jacob Geiger born January 1, 1775 Maria Catharina Gieger born April 9, 1777 Johann Peter Geiger born January 15, 1780 Georg Geiger born February 12, 1782 The dates for the five children listed above are taken from the papers of Bob Kiger. I believe they are based on actual records found in Stokes County church records--either Lutheran or Moravian. I do have some doubts though as to the accuracy of the DOB of Georg Geiger above. He later is known as John--probably he was Johan Georg and he married Clary Beck in March of 1796--which would strongly indicate he was born earlier than 1782. Aside from that I have no reason to question the accuracy of the records. Henry Geiger born ??? Gertraudt born ??? I have seen no evidence for establishing a birthdate for either of these two children who are named in their father's will other than the fact that Gertraudt is most likely the youngest. > I do have Sarah (Sally) GEIGER, daughter of Johan Adam GEIGER and Maria > Margaretha FIEDLER; her 1787 birth is supported, supposedly, by the 1850 > census for Stokes County, being 63 in 1850. She married a Harmon KISER on 31 > August 1808. Where is the 1808 marriage record? I have the Stokes Co. marriage bonds (supposedly the complete records) and this marriage is not listed? Did they marry elsewhere? Also, the 1850 census record could support an approximate age for Sally but not a maiden name--again we would need to see the marriage record. I am very interested in seeing such a marriage record or evidence of this marriage. My other question is WHERE is this Sally on the 1790 and 1800 census records? There is no daughter that can't otherwise be accounted for--the numbers don't add up if we add Sarah to the picture. Also, when did she die? If she was living in 1827 why is she not named in Adam's will? I suppose the argument could be made that the co-executor of Adam's will (along with John Speace) was Philip Kiser! Who is Philip Kiser? Is he a son of Harmon and Sarah? If so maybe there IS an explanation for a daughter Sally NOT being named just as there may be one for Mary Elizabeth. I know one thing--I need to learn more about this! There is a reference to her in The Heritage of Stokes County, > North Carolina in volume 2, page 81. I have not seen this book, and beyond > this, I have nothing on Sarah (Sally) GEIGER. I think the Heritage books produced by the NC Gen. Societies are wonderful resources but most of the information in them was supplied by the descendants of the families without anyone checking on the facts given. I personally have found many errors in those books and would always want to see supporting evidence for anything listed in them. I would use them as a starting point in further research--but like you I have never seen the Stokes County book. > How accurate these dates are, I do not know now, but I have Johan > Adam, jnr, born 1771, Anna Christina about 1766, Jacob 1767-1774, Maria > Catherina about 1768, John (NMN) about 1769, Georg about 1770, Henry about > 1773, and Gertaudt about 1771. Spouses are noted here and there. "Stokes > Heritage" is cited (same as the above-named book ?) which I have not seen. Again my basis for the dates for the children is listed above--I will say I believe the date of 1770 is much closer to the truth for Georg than the 1782 date given above. I think this all could bear further looking into. I wonder who supplied the information for the Stoke Co. Heritage book for this family? Does anyone know? If it came from Wenzola Robinson's research I know Bob Kiger was aware of that and made some corrections to her findings. I believe she was the only other person to have contributed greatly to the early research on this family before Bob studied them. > I do hope that I have not caused any furour. Désirée, that is what this list is all about--discussion--even if it entails disagreement. All of us (myself included) still have a lot to learn on these families--we will all benefit from an open discussion of all possibilities. Joan

In a message dated 98-06-27 00:45:14 EDT, kbolls@magicnet.net writes: > I am a descendant of Daniel Kyger and Anna Henthorn. Verda B. Kyger, who > married James A. Elliot, is a member of this Kyger family. If you are > interested in this family and want to be put in touch with them, please > contact me at: kbolls@magicnet.net. > Kay, guess that shoots my theory out of the water! How about Viola? Does she belong to your Kygers also? Joan

Dear Kay, Indeed, I am interested. Perhaps you saw the list of Kygers a couple of days ago that contained some of your family and some of my family. It was simply posted to help those trying to sort out all the Kyger/Kiger/Geiger/etc families. The person in whom I am particularly interested is Ulysses Vird Kyger. He is with my family but with a different wife. My mother told me he went to town and was never seen again. I'd love to solve this mystery. Do you have Vird in your family or know anything about him or the wife listed as Ella Y. Payton? When part of my family, he was married to Margaret McCaw and had three children. The youngest died early as well as Margaret. Please post your family names (plus date, places, etc if you have them) and we can see if we cross lines at some point. What fun this is! Dorothy Vekasi

Joan, Mary Elizabeth GEIGER is the daughter of Johan Adam GEIGER and Maria Margaretha FIEDLER, born 13 July 1765 somewhere in Pennsylvania. She married John SPEAS (SPIES, SPEACE, spelling varies) about 1787, prob- ably in Surry/Stokes County, North Carolina (?). Parts of Stokes are now in Forsyth County. She died 24 December 1829 in Rural Hall, Stokes County, and is interred in the Nazareth Lutheran Church cemetery in Rural Hall, now Forsyth County. These dates are on her tombstone, excepting the marriage. I do have Sarah (Sally) GEIGER, daughter of Johan Adam GEIGER and Maria Margaretha FIEDLER; her 1787 birth is supported, supposedly, by the 1850 census for Stokes County, being 63 in 1850. She married a Harmon KISER on 31 August 1808. There is a reference to her in The Heritage of Stokes County, North Carolina in volume 2, page 81. I have not seen this book, and beyond this, I have nothing on Sarah (Sally) GEIGER. How accurate these dates are, I do not know now, but I have Johan Adam, jnr, born 1771, Anna Christina about 1766, Jacob 1767-1774, Maria Catherina about 1768, John (NMN) about 1769, Georg about 1770, Henry about 1773, and Gertaudt about 1771. Spouses are noted here and there. "Stokes Heritage" is cited (same as the above-named book ?) which I have not seen. I do hope that I have not caused any furour. (I descend from Mary Elizabeth GEIGER through her marriage to John SPEAS/SPIES/SPEACE, et cetera.) Thank you. Désirée de Nantes <Texzilla2@aol.com>

Hi! I am a descendant of Daniel Kyger and Anna Henthorn. Verda B. Kyger, who married James A. Elliot, is a member of this Kyger family. If you are interested in this family and want to be put in touch with them, please contact me at: kbolls@magicnet.net. Kay

A few days ago I stated that I thought that Sarah Geyer/Geiger born in Orwigsburg might be the daughter of John Geiger/Geyer of Alsace Township, Berks County. This John, I speculated might well be the son of either Christopher or Johannes who were brothers and sons of Adam Geiger/Geyer. I said I would write to Barbara Campbell about this since she didn't have e- mail and I thought she might know more. This is her response. "I do not have anything on either John Geiger-son of Christopher or son of Johannes. It does sound as though Sarah is related to the Alsace Twp. branch. Several of the Wunder-related families ended up in Orwigsburg and surrounding area. Stroheckers, Harveys, Aulonback, etc. Records for the time period Sarah was born are particularly poor in Schuylkill County. I think Rev. Boos was travelling up to Schuylkill during this time. Schuylkill County formed from Berks 1812-1815, if memory serves me. People seem to still show up in Trinity and First Reformed in Reading as if they had never gone anywhere." Joan

I received a letter in the mail yesterday from someone researching their Kiger ancestors. The person they are asking about it totally unknown to me and I wondered whether anyone on the list was familiar with this Kiger from Stokes County, NC. The person is asking about a Sally (Sarah I presume) Kiger/Geiger who they state was born in 1787 in Stokes County and who married someone by the name of Harmon/Hermonnis Kiser in 1808. As far as I know the ONLY Geigers or Kigers in Stokes County in 1787 were the family of Johann Adam Geiger and Maria Margaretha Fiedler. The children of this family as I know them are: Mary Elizabeth Geiger (presumed daughter) born 1765 Johann Adam Geiger, Jr. baptized March 8, 1767 Anna Christina Geiger born September 20, 1769 Jacob Geiger born January 1, 1775 Maria Catharina Gieger born April 9, 1777 Johann Peter Geiger born January 15, 1780 Georg Geiger born February 12, 1782 Henry Geiger born ??? Gertraudt born ??? I have checked the census indexes and find ONLY ONE Geiger (of any spelling) on the 1790 census-Adam Geiger with 2 males 16 and over, and 4 males under 16, and 4 females. This would mean that Adam and his wife had 5 sons and 3 daughters living at home in 1790. It is likely that the presumed daughter Mary Elizabeth was already married by this time and not living with her parents, which would leave the 3 daughters we already know about--Christina, Catharina, and Gertraudt. So who is this Sarah and where did she come from? There is no question that at least one Kiger married a Kiser but this was in 1854 when Elizabeth Kiger married John H. Kiser in Stokes County. Since I have the Stokes County marriage bonds and there is no other Geiger/Kiger married to a Kiser I have to wonder where the information came from about Sarah Kiger marrying Harmon Kiser. Has anyone ever heard of either or them? I am wondering if the dates are off by quite a bit and this Elizabeth who married John H. Kiser might be the ones this person is looking for--the H. could stand for Harmon. Joan

In a message dated 98-06-26 16:32:01 EDT, you write: > My line is the Anthony Geiger in the 1820 Census living in Licking Co, OH. > He > was one of the 1st settlers in Licking Twp, coming in 1805 from VA. Peggy, thanks. I should have realized that! As I see it that still leaves Samuel Kiger unexplained. I have checked the Geigers on your Webpage who are connected to Anthony Geiger's family and I don't see any Samuel that could be the one living in Licking County--would I be correct in that assumption? Which leaves me wondering about a possible, or probable, connection between Samuel Kiger and Benjamin Kiger who both end up in Clinton County, Ohio. While Samuel was in Licking--Benjamin was in Jackson--then both end up in Clinton. Joan

> I think we can safely say that this is a completely different Samuel Kiger. > He was also on the 1830 census living in exactly the same township as listed > above for 1840. I believe he is the same Samuel who lived in Madason > Township, Licking County, Ohio in 1820 and is on page 38. The only other > Kiger or Geiger that was in Licking County in 1820 was an Anthony Giger. I > am curious about both of these men--I am not sure what family or families they > belong to. Anyone have any ideas? Joan, My line is the Anthony Geiger in the 1820 Census living in Licking Co, OH. He was one of the 1st settlers in Licking Twp, coming in 1805 from VA. 2 Anthony Geiger b: Oct 29, 1776 Frederick Co, MD d: Dec 26, 1836 Churubusco, Whitley Co, IN Farmer and Mechanic; Baptist Died from "lung fever" Bur. Eel River Cem, Churusbusco, IN Son of Jacob Geiger (1748-1791) and Elizabeth Shultz (c.1757-1776) +Mary Kirk b: 1774 Berkeley Co, WV (VA) m: Sep 26, 1797 Martinsburg, Berkeley Co, VA src: Marriage Records, Berkeley Co, VA d: Jun 06, 1832 Jacksontown, Licking Co, OH d/o Joseph and Sarah Kirk of Irish descent Died from "Head Pleurisy" at 58 years of age. Buried Beard Cem, Licking Co, OH Peggy

In a message dated 98-06-26 11:12:52 EDT, you write: > I just looked at your list again. I'll bet some (Mary M. Kyger who m. Alvin > T. Hughes, > Viola Kyger who m. Irving Hendricks, Verda B. Kyger who m. James A. Elliot, > Ulysses > V. Kyger who m. Ella Y. Payton, and Mary L. Kyger who m. John W Ayers belong > to > other Kyger families. Joan will be glad to get that information as they are > in the process > of trying to straighten out all the Kiger families in Indiana and Ohio. Dorothy and Maggie, I don't think these are from other Kiger/Kyger families (at least most of them). Here is my take on the situation. Keep in mind this is only educated guesswork. How does this add up for both of you? Vird Kyger born 23 Mar., 1831 marries first Margaret McCaw as in Dorothy's chart. Vird leaves home on horseback--adios, goodbye. His baby son and wife die soon after. He remarries to Ella Y. Payton on Nov. 3, 1874 (and most likely this family never knows about the first one--this will truly be fun if we can bring together descendants of both families, won't it now?) and has the following children: Verda B. Kyger (named for him of course--she was most likely supposed to be a boy)--and she marries James A. Elliot on Jan. 6, 1911 Viola Kyger who later marries Irving Hendricks on May 2, 1901 Meanwhile my guess is wife number two dies and Vird remarries Mary L. born March 2, 1865 and then he dies and she marries John W. Ayers as a widow. The fact that Mary L. Kyger born 1865 is marrying in 1907 indicates to me she most likely is not a Kyger by birbut Vird's widow. This is STRICTLY guesswork. This entry could well be an entirely different Kyger family so PLEASE don't quote me on this one. I just have a "feeling" that this is how it will all play out when we learn more. Maybe we can put Dick Andis to work gathering evidence on this one. How about it Dick? Anyway back to the others: Martha J. Kyger and Jacob W. Stoner--agree on Maggie and Dorothy's records Amanda and Nathaniel Fish--agree on both and Maggie has added some detail for Dorothy Candance/Candessa--also agree. Mary M. Kyger--my guess is that her middle name is Melvina and that she is the same person who married Alvin T. Hughes in 1871 in Franklin County (she would have been 38 at the time but stranger things have happened). Joan

Joan asked me to answer your post. I can see why. We obviously are following the same Kyger family, but I feel like there is a short circuit somewhere. The family of Daniel and Charity Lines are as follows: Alpheus Kyber b. 2 Oct 1828 Ulessus Virdon Kyger (called "Vird") b. 23 Mar 1831 +married Margaret McCaw who died bef 1877. Melvina Kyger b. 1 Mar 1833 Viena Kyger b. 14 Jun 1835 +married George Arafield Martha June Kyger b. 30 Nov 1837 +married Jacob Stoner Mary Ann Kyger b. 7 Oct 1840 +married Charles Hall Bassett Brookville, Franklin Co., IN 25 Aug 1863 died 30 Jul 1929 Gary, Lake Co. IN buried City Cem. Elwood, IN Candessa Kyger b.Feb 1843 d. 25 Jun 1902 +maried Andrew M. Bell Amanda Jane Kyger b. 6 Apr 1845 +m. ? Fish Adaline Jane Kyger b. 1 Jun 1849 +m. G.C. Enslinger Ida Kyger b. 26 Jul 1859 d. bef 1870 This is a family with whom I am most familiar. My mother was a granddaughter of Mary Ann Kyger Bassett and was familiar with all her sisters and some brothers. I have a great deal of information about this family, but thought first we should clarify our two records. I'm not sure where to begin that process. Maybe if you tell me where you got your information, between us we can straighten things out. My information is a combination of Mother's stories and my research. I just looked at your list again. I'll bet some (Mary M. Kyger who m. Alvin T. Hughes, Viola Kyger who m. Irving Hendricks, Verda B. Kyger who m. James A. Elliot, Ulysses V. Kyger who m. Ella Y. Payton, and Mary L. Kyger who m. John W Ayers belong to other Kyger families. Joan will be glad to get that information as they are in the process of trying to straighten out all the Kiger families in Indiana and Ohio. Dorothy P.S. I just had an interesting thought. Mother told me that Vird Kyger left on horseback to go to town. He was never heard from again. His wife and baby son died and his other two children lived with relatives for a while. There's more to the story about his children, but I wonder if the Ullysses V. Kyger who married Ella Y. Payton could be the same as the one who disappeared. The family concluded that he was dead, but as far as I know there was no evidence. They lived in Monon, Indiana and Dick Andis, who lives near there, is going to see if he can find anything on the story. Where did you get the information on Vird's marriage? I'd like to pursue that to either prove or disprove the theory.

Sorry, have never come across that surname anywhere in this area. Wish I could help. Georgianne ggbowman@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: JYoung6180@aol.com <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com <GEIGER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [GEIGER-L] New York (?) connections to North Carolina Kiger family >Georgianne, by any chance would one of the families who emigrated from Alsace >with your Geigers have been Nash/Neusch/Neisch

Hello We are researching the CUENI family of Switzerland. Back around the 1920s or so Adelbert GEIGER xxxx-1986 married my aunt Marie CUENI 1894-1964. They had four children, three still alive. The CUENI family, spelled as shown, comes from Roeschenz, Laufenthal area, Kanton Basel ( formerly Kanton Bern. ) We would appreciate any information and leads to either or both of these families. Thank you and regards, Mark and Hwaji. end Mark and Hwaji Cueni mnhcueni@pahrump.com

Georgianne, by any chance would one of the families who emigrated from Alsace with your Geigers have been Nash/Neusch/Neisch? I ask because my Geiger ancestor had a sister who married Frederick Neusch and a descendant of hers came to America in the mid 1800s from Alsace and did settle in NY. They probably had no idea by that time that they even had relatives in New Jersey. Joan