Peggy, let me check through my notes. My Geiger connections come from a Chism marrying a Geiger and a few years down the road a Geiger married a Chism. Maybe I can find something on him. I have Geigers having lived in Fairfield and Licking Counties, also in Logan County. Sue

Steve, I am studying the Geigers in Indiana/Ohio area and while I haven't been able to connect this line with my Geigers, I think it might help answer your questions... Best Regards, PeggyLoos@aol.com 1 Henry Geiger b: Abt 1803 Germany d: Bef 1870 Kosciusko Co, IN farmer +Catherine Berger b: Abt 1808 Germany m: Abt 1844 d: Oct 16, 1873 Kosciusko Co, IN 2 John Henry Geiger b: Jul 07, 1844 Starke Co, OH d: Apr 26, 1921 Kosciusko Co, IN +Mary Ann Ringenberg b: May 13, 1853 IN m: Mar 27, 1870 Warsaw, IN d: Dec 07, 1918 Kosciusko Co, IN 3 Laura Geiger b: Nov 1870 3 Franklin Pierce Geiger b: Jul 1872 IN 3 Charles Henry Geiger b: Nov 29, 1873 3 William Irvin Geiger b: Sep 27, 1875 IN 3 Emily Geiger b: Jul 1880 IN +Edward M. Lentz b: Jun 1878 IN 3 Cora Geiger b: Jun 1882 IN 3 Walter R. Geiger b: Apr 1884 IN 3 Ancil L. Geiger b: Oct 1888 IN 3 Leroy Geiger b: Apr 1891 IN 3 Harvey C. Geiger b: Jun 1893 IN 2 Gimima Geiger b: 1847 2 Margaret Anna Geiger b: Aug 07, 1848 d: Nov 08, 1906 Kosciusko Co, IN +William A. Weaver m: Oct 09, 1870 Warsaw, IN >I think it is very likely that my g-grandmother Emily Geiger (b. JUL 1880) >was another one of the children of this family. Per the census info, >Emily's father was born in Ohio, and her mother was born in Indiana. So >both her date of birth and her parents' birthplaces are a fit. Emily by >1900 was married to Edward Lentz, living close by in Milford. There is a >William Geiger (b. SEP 1875) living with them, likely another son. That >would leave only one of the nine surviving children unaccounted for. I >have heard that there was another son Charles. I don't recall any more >than about 3-4 Kos. Co. Geiger families, and this is the only one for >which there was a potential fit. More to do. Does anyone already have a link into this Henry from Ohio?

Just found a new (to me) search engine at http://www.euroseek.net/page?ifl=uk. Used it to search for "German genealogy" and came up with lots of interesting sites, several of which I have never come across before. Among the sites it brought up were several which could probably answer questions brought up in postings to the list, including one that says it contains genealogical travel tips. There were also specialized German sites dealing with Russia, Poland, Switzerland, etc. Happy hunting! Georgianne

I want to call to your attention to a great OHIO research source that some people do not know about. It is: The Ohio Genealogical Society 419-522-9077 713 S Main St Mansfield, OH 44907-1644 They have a great library which they allow anyone to use for a nominal fee. If you are a member it is free. Eleanor Myers myersel@battelle.org

Recently I stated that Mary Luella Kyger (daughter of Ulysseus Virdon Kyger) never married until late in life she married my grandfather (Daniel Frame Havens) as his second wife. I was just reading a transcription of a brief tape I ran while Mother told me about the Kygers. On the tape Mother said, "I don't think Ella ever married until she married Dad." I apologize for my blunt "no-way" in response to a marriage record for Mary L. Kyger. I think it was one of the "unknown" Kygers that Kay came across. If that is correct, Kay, could you send me the information again? Dorothy

In a message dated 98-07-14 03:13:05 EDT, you write: > I think it is very likely that my g-grandmother Emily Geiger (b. JUL 1880) > was another one of the children of this family. Per the census info, > Emily's father was born in Ohio, and her mother was born in Indiana. So > both her date of birth and her parents' birthplaces are a fit. Emily by > 1900 was married to Edward Lentz, living close by in Milford. There is a > William Geiger (b. SEP 1875) living with them, likely another son. Steve, as I recall you were going to get Emily's death record? What is the statue of that? I think your case is pretty conclusive even with the census records--it all adds up. One possibility about the location of marriage--I know it is quite a ways from Kosciusko County, IN, but you might want to consider Cincinnati, Ohio as it was a "no questions asked" marriage location and many Indiana couple married there--especially those who married young as this couple did. The only problem is that the records are far from complete but they still might be worth a shot. After you get a death certificate or other proof to connect Emily to Henry--then we need to look at the Geigers in Ohio--I can probably help give you a list of potential Geigers he could be. From the census records it looks as if his parents were born in Germany--so once we reach that point you may be able to get Naturalization papers which would hopefully lead you back to Germany and the village of origin--but we must walk before we can run on this one. Joan

In a message dated 98-07-14 09:52:33 EDT, you write: > And when John became involved in the Weber > Heresy some of them moved to Ga. Dot, I will admit to not knowing much about this Geiger family, but from what I have read it would appear to have been Ulric Gieger's father Abraham who supposedly was banished from South Carolina (and settled in Georgia) for his (again supposed) involvement with the Weberite Heresy. Joan

In a message dated 98-07-14 09:50:41 EDT, you write: > Indiana > � Marriages in Rush Co. Indiana > p. 13 Gwinness, Sarah 5 Feb 1830 Kyger, John > p. 40 Martz, Elizabeth 7 Sep 1830 Kyger, John Dottie, I loved the story of the socks--that is one mystery we may never resolve. I do have one comment on the marriages mentioned above. I would assume that Sarah Gwinness is actually Sarah Gwinnup who married John Kiger/Kyger son of John, Sr. and Sarah Parrish. Also, there is an additional marriage which could be in some way connected to the above mentioned marriage of John Kyger and Elizabeth Martz. It is the marriage on 2 March 1830 in Henry County, Indiana of William Kiger and Margaret Marts. Since Rush and Henry counties are right next to each other it sure would appear that this John and William Kyger/Kiger were possibly brothers who married two Marts/Martz sisters. So this is possibly a clue in identifying them--can anyone help? Joan

Thanks a lot for getting back to me. If the info sent to me is correct then Abraham Harroll's brother and sisters are: Cornelius,Ephriam,Nathan,Jeremiah,David,Samuel,Elizabeth,John,James,Jessie and Joshua. Now from what I understand Abraham Harroll's grandfather was Ulrich(Hans Geiger m Appolina Geiger. I live in Lexington Sc the area where some of the Geiger's settled when they came from Switzerland in 1734. And when John became involved in the Weber Heresy some of them moved to Ga. I am trying to find if this Abraham Harroll was married before Avie since he would have been in his 50's when married. Thanks again Dot M

I'm going through my research file and find some things that have probably been on posts of others. At the end is a story about John Kyger and the socks in which he was buried is worth noting. DAR Mason Co., KY marriages VI – p5 Maysville: Kiger, John and Sarah Parrish 13 Jan 1791 Wittness: Joseph Parrish, Brother and Joseph Parrish Sr., Father. Indiana · Marriages in Rush Co. Indiana p. 13 Gwinness, Sarah 5 Feb 1830 Kyger, John p. 40 Martz, Elizabeth 7 Sep 1830 Kyger, John · Court Records at the Indiana State Archives. Researched 1988. Supreme Court Order Book II May 1845-May 1846. 10 Nov 1845 (LorS) armenter M. Parks vs. Wm H. Hazelrigg, Daniel Kiger, Robertson C. Rupell & James Dugan. Re:Legality and obbligation bond sealed by all four but not signed by Kigor. Ruled signing not essential Reversed circuit court decision. Supreme Court Order Book No. 5 May 1835 Nov. 1837 “E” p.113-122 Lewis Raymont & Mary Rockafellow—admrs 1 Nov 1835 Of the estate of John H. Rockafellow appeal from Franklin Probate Court vs. Jesse Simonson admr.of the Estate of Joseph Russell John Kiger – Administrator for Jos. Russell Jr. (18-20 yrs.old) died and left considerable estate. Question of handling of funds. Court found Kiger responsible for all unless he can prove he paid it to guardian. Note: Very long – I skimmed.l. Above is my general impression of problem and ruling. · Supreme Court Bk. No. 9 Nov 1842 – Nov 1843 “J” o. 247 William H. Houglericg (sp?) Daniel Kiger Roberston C. Rupell Vs State of Indiana for the use of Perminter Parks. Affirmed judgement of Circuit Court $2.75 for either damages or court costs · From Rush Co. IN Probate Book #2 1836-1841 p. 580 p. 580 In assumpsit action are; Robert Y. McBride vs. Rebecca Kyger admx. Of the estate of Joseph Kyger dec. Feb 1841. p. 535 In chancery suit are: Rebecca Kyger, wife of Joseph Kygar dec., Willis Kyger, George Indiana · From Waters “Indiana Land Entried p.64 & p.91 Jacob Kiger owned land in Union or Franklin Co.,IN as of 23 Oct 1813. The land was near property of Jonathan Bassett & John Dickerson Jacob Kiger with Christopher Kiger – ¼ section 35 1813 John Kyger Union Co. ¼ section 31 1812 Arapman? Roland and wife Eliza all adults and James, Joseph, John and Mary Kyger infants with George Kyger as their gdn. vs Purnell Bishop and his wife Julian. (Juliann?) Case originally brought before Ralph Cotton, Esq., J.P. in Jefferson Township, Jefferson Co., Indiana Territory. (Judge of Court of Common Pleas named but I can't make out name.) Jurors: Branham, William ? ,James Underwood, John Branham, Alexander Chambers, Joseph ?, John Hall, John Ryker, Thomas Streblin, James ?, John Randalls, Joshua Wilkinson, Richard Hopkins, Gideon Underwood, James McClane, Jacob Rhodes and Archabald Dunwaddy. Case: 3 Jun 1812 Joseph Lyon, Plaintiff, and Susanah Dockers, Defendant. Complaint: Joseph Lyon claimed Susannah Dockers took from him a pair of cotton socks which he had left in her possession. Everyone took oaths William Dickinson, late JP of Jefferson Co. Jefferson Twp., was a witness for defendant. Jurors had to decide if a certain pair of cotton socks in white that a certain John Kyger, then lately deceased,, was buried were the property of Joseph Lyon. It gets confusing, but they try to describe the socks (Were they entirely white or white with a blue shot. Then I had to leave before getting the verdict. I love the story -- even without a conclusion. The real question: Which John Kyger went to his grave in white socks perhaps with blue shots that may have belonged to someone else?

Joan Young replied, regarding Mary Elizabeth GEIGER: > >Yes. I recently posted a report to this list on the Geigers of Berwangen, >Germany which included this information as well as the information on the >other Geigers from this family who came to America, most notably Paul Geiger >for whom Geigertown in Berks County is named. If you didn't see it, or >deleted it without realizing it involved your Geigers, and would like me to >send the entire report, let me know and I will send it privately. I will copy >here just the information pertaining to Mary Elizabeth and her parents and >siblings. > [snip] Joan, I was gone when the list began, and didn't get subscribed until July 10. I haven't seen your report, but would be glad to receive it privately. Thanks! JS _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

I've already received som help from Joan Young, for which I'm thankful. Still, I have a "lonely" ancestress, for whom I'd like to find additional info. Does anyone have any more information on the following? George GEIGER (1728-?) and Catharina Elizabetha ? are said to be the parents of 1. Mary Elizabeth GEIGER. Born on 25 Nov 1753; married on 16 Apr 1786, St. James Episcopal Church, Lancaster, PA to Martin WEYBRIGHT. Born in 1757 in PA; died in OH in 1827. Occupation: Farmer, Militia Captain, Deacon. Religion: German Baptist Brethren ("Dunkard") Church. -He became administrator of his father's estate in 1779, apparently the year he came of age. -He became a Captain in the 7th Company, 8th Battalion, of the Lancaster County Militia. -In 1789 he disposed of the farm of 250 acres on Connestoga Creek, three miles north of Lancaster, PA [which had been warranted to his grandfather in 1738] and moved to Somerset County, PA. In 1803 he moved to Ohio and took up government land on Wolfe Creek, 8 miles west of Dayton. In 1804 he sold his farm in Somerset County, PA. -In 1811 the Wolfe Creek District of the German Baptist Brethren Church was organized near his property. He is the first Deacon listed for the new church. -His will was probated at Dayton, OH in 1827. Their son: 2. Jacob WEYBRIGHT. Born on 14 Oct 1788 in Lancaster Co., PA; died in OH on 11 Nov 1865. Occupation: Farmer, 'Country Doctor'. Religion: GBBC. On 4 Aug 1812 he married Elizabeth FETTERS, daughter of Daniel FETTERS & Susannah SHOUP. Born in 1791; died in Montgomery Co. OH in 1872. Here are some questions I'd like help with: Does anyone have a death date for Mary Elizabeth GEIGER? Is more known regarding her parents? Did she have any siblings? If so, who were they, etc.? Can anyone provide a complete list of her children (All I have is her son Jacob)? And the big stumper: What were the circumstances that led Martin Weybright and Mary Elizabeth Geiger to move from "high church" Episcopalian to anabaptist German Baptist Brethren, and when did this happen? Thanks! _______________________________________________ James Shuman, Telecommunications Coordinator The California Arts Project jshuman@telis.org http://www.ucop.edu/tcap/ _______________________________________________

In a message dated 98-07-14 00:29:18 EDT, you write: > Does anyone have any more information on the following? > Here are some questions I'd like help with: > > Does anyone have a death date for Mary Elizabeth GEIGER? James, I have never seen a death date for Mary Elizabeth. I do know Ann Rasor is on this list and maybe she can provide some information about Mary Elizabeth? Ann do you have a death date? > > Is more known regarding her parents? Yes. I recently posted a report to this list on the Geigers of Berwangen, Germany which included this information as well as the information on the other Geigers from this family who came to America, most notably Paul Geiger for whom Geigertown in Berks County is named. If you didn't see it, or deleted it without realizing it involved your Geigers, and would like me to send the entire report, let me know and I will send it privately. I will copy here just the information pertaining to Mary Elizabeth and her parents and siblings. George Geiger, born 27 November 1728 in Berwangen, son of Johann Paul Geiger and wife Eva Maria emigrated to America in 1749 on the �Fane� along with Paul Geiger of Geigertown, Berks County. According to �Heritage of Rowan County, North Carolina� George lived until early in 1793 in Warwick Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, and at that time removed to Rowan County. It has since been disproved that the George who migrated to North Carolina is this George Geiger. It is likely that George Geiger remained in Lancaster County. George married Catharina Elizabetha and the couple had the following children whose baptisms are recorded at Trinity Lutheran Church, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Trinity Lutheran records, page 34, indicate that Georg Geiger is the �recently arrived servant of Jacob Dannbach.� That entry was recorded in 1750. 1. Maria Elizabetha Geiger, born 25 November 1753, and married Captain Martin Weybright III at St. James Episcopal Church, Lancaster, on 16 April 1786. Of interest is the fact that Martin Weybright III's parents were Martin Weybright II and his second wife Elizabeth (nee M�ller) Geyer. Elizabeth M�ller's first husband John Henry Geyer is listed in the records of the First Reformed Church, Lancaster, as John Henry Geiger. This incorrect spelling of his name on the baptismal record of his son George Henry Geyer in 1742 resulted in much confusion for Geiger researchers who mistakenly believed him to be their ancestor. 2. Mary Margaret Geiger for whom no baptismal record has been found. However, there is a death record showing that she died at one year of age on 20 September 1757 3. Johan Nicolaus Geiger, born 2 July 1758. 4. Anna Catharina Geiger, born 21 December 1760. 5. Anna Christina Geiger, born 21 April 1763. > > Did she have any siblings? If so, who were they, etc.? Listed above. > > Can anyone provide a complete list of her children (All I have is her son > Jacob)? No--I don't have them either but would like to if anyone can help with this. > > And the big stumper: What were the circumstances that led Martin Weybright > and Mary Elizabeth Geiger to move from "high church" Episcopalian to > anabaptist German Baptist Brethren, and when did this happen? My understanding of this is that Martin Weybright was NEVER a member of the Episcopalian Church and I seriously doubt that Mary Elizabeth Geiger was either. They were most likely Lutheran. It is listed in the St. James registers that this church frequently performed marriages and baptisms for the Lutherans and other Germans who were not members of their church. I have no idea what their reasons were for getting married in this particular church. Joan

In a message dated 98-07-13 21:41:04 EDT, you write: > I have been trying to get some info entered on this but everytime I submitt > it, it is returned and I am using the correct address, can you help. Dot, your messages are getting through just fine. Your information has been posted to the list. > have a document of a voters regist form with his full name Abraham Harroll > in Chatham Co, Ga 1867. I am looking for any info on his other children and > parents. I think his father is Abraham m to Mercy brother to Felix, can't > prove it. It now looks as if several people are working on this same Geiger family--but most likely different branches. Another Cornelius is in your list of given names. This would indeed appear to be the SC Geigers with the branch that moved into GA and FL. Joan

I have been trying to get some info entered on this but everytime I submitt it, it is returned and I am using the correct address, can you help. I am working on a line of the Geiger's my gggrandfather was Abraham Harroll Geiger b in Chatham co 1801? and m AVie Lee in Hamilton Co, Fla 1852. They had 7 children. John Cornelious,Anson Butler,Georgia Annie Geiger Taylor,Abraham Porter,Augustus Harroll,Thomas Jackson,my ggrandfather,and Uriah Crancie Geiger. Avie Lee married again and is buried with husband Byrd Hightower in Sunset Hills Cemetery in Valdosta, GA. can't find where Abraham Harroll is buried. I have a document of a voters regist form with his full name Abraham Harroll in Chatham Co, Ga 1867. I am looking for any info on his other children and parents. I think his father is Abraham m to Mercy brother to Felix, can't prove it. Please keep this in mind and if you ever have any info on a Abraham Harroll please contact me. Thomas Jackson m Emma Taylor and they had 7 children. Jackson Harrell,Charles Leroy Geiger my grandfather, Avie Lena Geiger, Lillian Emma Geiger Hunter,Thomas Kirk Geiger and Kathryn T Geiger Compton, they are all buried at this same cemetery in Valdosta, Ga. Thanks so much Dot miller, Jmiller789@aol.com

Greetings. This is my first post to the Geiger list. Hope someone can help. I have been trying to find the parents of Cornelius Geiger for the past 6 months. He was born in Wayne Co., Georgia on June 20, 1821. He married a Mary Anne Gianovali in Savannah in 1847. They had three daughters, two of which made it to adulthood. He married a second time, after the death of Mary Ann, in 1873. His second wife was Frances M. Williamson. They had around 5 children. Only two made it to adulthood. His son, Leland Ray Geiger was a result of this second marriage and Leland is my husband's grandfather. Cornelius spent a large part of his life as an overseer on Refuge Plantation in Camden, Ga., where he primarily raised rice and was respondsible for paying the workers. There are a number of Cornelius Geigers in the South Carolina connections, but none are the same . I am sure that one of the SC lines is related, but I cannot make any connections thus far. Searching for birth or death notices has been unsuccessful as nothing prior to 1919 was required to be listed. Neither the Archives or the county records are available prior to the 1919 date. Unless I can get to a newpaper in Wayne co., or in Waycross, that may have an obituary, I may never find out anything additional. And right now I cannot travel to Southern Ga. to check it out. Can any help me? Do you have a stray Cornelius sitting on your family branch? Anybody have any idea on how to obtain vital records that do not appear to exist? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. Susan Wilson at hrw3@worldnet.att.net

Mary, I think the key to everyone helping each on this and any other surname list is for the "groups" of people who are searching in the same geographic area, or have the same "root" Geiger family, to find one another and share both information and ideas. As you learn new information--please keep us all informed. There will be others coming along no doubt with an interest in the South Carolina Geigers. Joan

Thanks, Joan, Did hear from Deb Callicott.....,I thank you so much for your help. She was very helpful....and I hope we will be able to help her. Mary

Deb, My heart goes out to you.....it is a hard, but very rewarding job...to be a caretaker. Yes, you have a triple caseload. God Bless you. Our line is as follows: FL/GA GEIGERS Abraham Geiger I b. 4 March 1690/1687 d. 7 May 1766 md. Catherina Schelling 1. Hans Ulrich Geiger b. 1729/1730 d. 1777 md Apollina Seckinger ? 2. Felix Geiger b. 30 Sept 1763 d. 17 Feb 1827 md. Mary Margaret Martin 3. Felix Geiger, Jr. b. 6 Feb 1804 d. 1889 3. Jacob Geiger 3. John Martin Geiger 3. Felix Geiger md. Alice Sapp ( 3. Allen Bethel Geiger, b. 1802 d. 1873 md. (l)Abigail Riggs and I listed their 6 children earlier; md. (2) Mary Ann Buford or Beaufort and they had the following: (both buried in Oligivie Cemetery, Jacksonville, FL) 4. Cynthia Geiger b. 1842 md. Jonathan Blitch (2) Wiley Lee Jones 4. Martha Geiger b. 1845 md. Rev. William Williams 4. John A. Geiger b. 1847 md. Jeanette Mason 4. Joseph Henry Geiger md. Sarah Burney 4. Jane Geiger md. Francis Marion Starrett 4. Iraneus Geiger b. 1854 md. Mary Elizabeth Lord 4. Matilda N. Geiger b. 1856 md. Owen Christopher Wingate 4. Isaiah Geiger b. 1858 mmd. Frances J. Jameson 4. Simon Peter Geiger or Peter Simon died unmarried of brain fever If your ancestor is this (4) Jacob Geiger, he was brother to Allen. I do know that Allen and most of his children are buried in the Ogilvie Cemetery, off Lem Turner Rd, then off Lannie Rd (near the correctional center), in Jacksonville, Duval co, FL. I know nothing about Allen's first wife, Abigail Riggs except that she married Allen Bethel Geiger in Wayne Co, GA on 17 June 1826.......have posted on the Riggs webpage.....thought maybe a Geiger might have some info. Thanks, Mary Phillips Orlando, FL

Susan, Mary Phillips posted a message to the Geiger list on July 10th (which I am forwarding to you privately as the other list members have already seen it). She is also looking for Geigers in Wayne County, GA at roughly the same time period you are--the two of you need to put your heads together to determine any connection. Both of you need to get in touch with Deb Callicott at callicott@pobox.com as she is most likely also connected to this same general Geiger family--due to intermarriages with the same allied families. I think basically these Geigers all descend from the Orangeburg, SC Geigers who arrived in the 1730s and 1740s from Switzerland. A branch of this family moved into Georgia and this branch descend from Hans Ulric Gieger born 14 May 1729 in Berneck, Switzerland and Appolonia his wife. The two sons of Ulric and Appolonia are: Abraham born 11 June 1761 and Felix born 30 September 1763. Abraham is known to have had a son Cornelius. I hope when Deb, Mary, and you come up with the answers and connections you will see that the information is posted to the list as a whole as there may also be others interested in this Geiger family. Joan