I am posting the following report which is a work in progress on the two John Adam Geyer/Geigers of Berks County, Pennsylvania. I would appreciate any comments, additions or corrections anyone may wish to ad. I plan to print this article (in a more complete form hopefully) at some future date in my newsletter The Kiger Kounter. In the meantime I thought the contents of the article might prove useful to both Geyer and Geiger researchers. Joan The Two John Adam Geigers of Berks County 1760s It would appear that entries for the records of Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, Berks County, PA contain Geyer and Geiger entries for the same family. Below I will list the spelling exactly as shown in the record. Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading: Births: J�rg David (George David) Geier son of Adam and Elisabetha Catharina (Reading) baptized 2 March 1755 �one week old� Sponsors: J�rg Sebastian Krauser and David and Anna C. Wuertz Johann Adam Geyer son of Johann Adam Geyer and wife Catharina born 24 May 1760. The sponsors at his baptism were: Peter Raup and his wife Christina. Christoph Geyer* son of Johann Adam and Elisabetha Catharina born 11 September 1762 and baptized 1762 Sponsors: Christoph Lehman and Anna Regina Maria Catharina Geier daughter of Adam and Elisabeth Catharina born 22 March 1766 and baptized 18 May 1766 Sponsors: John Geiger and Christina Ames [who is this John Geiger?] Johannes Geier* son of Adam and Elisabeth Catharina born 11 June 1769 and baptized 23 July 1769 Sponsors: Johannes Gross and Anna Elisabeth There are two additional children of this couple not found in the church records as follows: Peter Geiger* named in the administration papers of his father�s estate 12 March 1783 as eldest son. No baptismal record has been found to date for Peter. Since son J�rg David and Johann Adam were deceased, apparently without issue at the time of their father�s death, Peter had to have been born prior to 1762. Elizabeth Geiger* married Henry Gerret/Gehret. No baptismal record has been found to date for Elizabeth Geiger. *named in estate anministration papers 12 March 1783 �Christopher and John, minors.� George Geier is named in Adam Geiger�s estate papers as a creditor of the estate. Who is he and how is he related to this family? In another section of the records under the heading �references in baptisms� is listed: Johann Adam and Catharina Geyer................................. Johann Adam Raup Catharina Geiger [note: this is Catharina Harff, wife of Christopher Geiger, son of Adam and Elisabetha Catharina].......................................Sarah Harf [This is Sarah Koller, wife of George Harf, brother of Catharina, wife of Christopher Geiger.] Note: No dates or explanations are given for the above entries. Marriages: Christoph Geiger and Catharina Harff 19 April 1789 Johannes Geiger, [son of Adam (dec)--Oley Township] and Christina Miller 4 July, 1790 Deaths: Elizabetha Cath Geyer daughter of Adam (Master Carpenter) and Elisabeth Cath born 2 March 1755 and died 8 May 1755. Maria Catharina Geyer daughter of Adam 22 March 1766 and died 3 September 1768 Catharine Geiger widow of Christopher born 20 May 1760 and died 22 December 1858 Christoph Geiger (shoemaker) son of Adam and Elisabeth born 20 September 1762 (see baptismal record above for correct date of birth) and died 3 December 1833 Christina Geiger, widow of Johannes, age 63, buried 19 March 1837 Records of Zion�s Blue Mountain Church, Upper Tulpehocken Township, Berks County: John Adam Geiger son of John Adam and wife baptized 8 March 1767 Sponsors: Christopher Kern and wife. also: John Kern son of Christopher Kern and wife baptised 10 May 1767 Sponsors: John Adam Geiger and wife Berks County Tax Lists: 1760 Reading Adam Geiger Married 1763 Heidelberg Township Adam Geiger Single 1764 Alsace Township Adam Geiser Married 1765 Tulpehocken Township Adam Geiger Married 1766 Alsace Township Adam Geyer Married 1767 Alsace Township Adam Geiger Married 1768 Alsace Township Adam Geyer Married 1769 Alsace Township Adam Geiger (taxed nominally--no acreage) [from the notes of Bob Kiger] Others on tax lists that may be connected to this family: 1764 Tulpehocken Township John Keyger Married [could this entry refer to John Adam Geiger listed in Tulpehocken Township in 1765? If so, it would prove beyond doubt the existence of 2 Adam Geigers in Berks County at the same time since the other Adam appears in Alsace Township in 1764.] 1766 Union Township George Kiger Married Abstracts of Wills and Administrations, Berks County: Adam Geiger Alsace Township 21 April 1778 Admin. to Peter Rapp a friend of the intestate. It should be noted that there are other Geiger entries in the records of Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, but no verifiable connection can be made to the above Adam Geyer/Geiger. Some of the records, including some for a Christoph Geiger and wife Maria Barbara in 1763 and a Christophel Geiger and wife Maria in 1779 and 1784, are for known Geiger families in the area. Christoph/Christopher/Christophel Geiger all refer to the same person. Christoph/Christopher/Christophel born 1720 is the son of Valentine Geiger of the Henckel/Geiger family who arrived in Pennsylvania in 1717 from Ittlingen, Germany. This Christopher had a much younger half-brother John who was born about 1742 who lived in New Hanover Township, Montgomery County. This Christopher�s first wife was Maria Barbara Geiger (nee Geiger) (his brother Anthony�s widow) and his second wife was Mary Robeson, of Robeson Township in what is now Berks County. I mention the fact that this Christoph had a brother John in view of the John Geiger who is a sponsor above at the baptism of Adam and Elisabetha Catharina Geyer�s daughter in 1766. There are also references in the Trinity Lutheran Church records to the family of Paul Geiger (born 1723) of Geigertown, Berks County, PA who arrived in PA on the ship Fane in 1749 from Berwangen, Germany. The Berwangen records for this Geiger family indicate that Paul had a brother John Geiger (born 1727) and there is the notation �aus Pennsylvanin� beside his name. However, he was not on the same ship with his brother Paul. This Johannes Geiger settled in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. These are just some of the possibilities as to the identity of the John Geiger who was sponsor at the above mentioned baptism. It would appear upon close examination of all the above records that there were 2 John Adam Geyer/Geigers in Berks County at about the same time. The fact that there are baptisms at Blue Mountain Church and Trinity Lutheran Church for children of Adam or John Adam which would indicate that the children were born not more than 11 months apart would be the first clue. The tax record for 1763 listing Adam as single when the previous and later ones list him as married would further support this. The locations given on the tax lists would give added evidence (but not proof). It is my conclusion that the Adam and Elisabeth Geyer/Geier/Geiger of the Trinity Lutheran records refer to an Adam Geyer/Geiger who lived in the Reading/Alsace/Oley Valley area; while the other Adam or John Adam Geiger is the one living in Heidelberg and Tulpehocken. In looking at a map this would appear to be the likely division between the two. The John Adam Geiger who lived in Heidelberg and later Tulpehocken is the one who appears in the records of Blue Mountain Church in Upper Tulpehocken, while the one from the Alsace and Reading area is the one who appears in the records in Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading. He is also the one who died in 1778 in Alsace Township. I cannot say for sure whether his name was originally Geyer or Geiger but the spelling consistently became Geiger beginning with his son Christopher who married Catharina Harf in 1789. The second John Adam Geiger (who always was listed as Geiger) is the one who married Maria Margaretha Fiedler of what is now Jefferson Twp., Berks County, about 1764-65 and appears as single on the 1763 Heidelberg Twp. tax list and as married in 1765 on the Tulpehocken Twp. tax list. He is also the one listed in the Blue Mountain Church records. After the 1767 baptism of his son John Adam, Jr. he and his wife soon prepared to move to Stokes County, North Carolina as there are no further records for any Geigers at Blue Mountain Church and no Geigers are buried there. Most likely the marriage record and possibly other baptisms would be found in the early records of this church in the 1760s if the records had not been lost prior to 1767. Only one John Adam Geiger appears on the ship lists in Pennsylvania German Pioneers which could refer to either of these Geigers. John Adam Geiger arrived on the ship Phoenix on 22 November 1752. At present I am leaning toward the belief that the Alsace Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania Adam Geyer/Geiger is the one who arrived on the Phoenix in view of the fact that we have made a signature comparison of the ship list signature and the signature from the will of John Adam Geiger of North Carolina. The signature do not appear to be a match although it is difficult to be certain in view of the great number of years that elapsed between the writing of the two signatures. There are also two John Adam Geyers on ship lists that could possibly refer to either of the above John Adams. One of these is Johann Adam Geyer who arrived on the Aurora on 8 October 1744 along with his father Johann Sebastian Geyer, and a Johan Besigner Geyer. Also, on this ship is Johannes G�rg Steigler whose wife is Elisabeth Gertraud Geyer, probably the sister of Johan Besigner Geyer. This information comes from the research of Dave Rankin, a Geyer researcher. Dave believes that these Geyers settled in York County, Pennsylvania (where, to further confuse matters, the family is listed as Geiger). The second of the two Johann Adam Geyers arrived on 24 August 1749 on the Elliot. It is believed that he, too, settled in York County, Pennsylvania and may be connected to the previously mentioned Geyers who arrived in 1744. Therefore, I do not believe that either of these John Adam Geyers (or Geigers) can be considered to be the ones who lived in Berks County. I do not know the parents of either John Adam Geiger of Berks County or where they came from. I feel it is quite likely that the John Adam who arrived on the Phoenix is the one who died in Alsace Twp. in 1778 while the other arrived as a child along with other relatives or was born in America. There is an Anna Margaret Geiger born in Bissingen on the Entz, W�rttemberg in 1722 who came to America, settled in Berks County, and married Johannes Schemel. Johannes Schemel arrived in Philadelphia on 16 September 1738 on the Queen Elizabeth. His name is spelled Schimmel on the list. He is listed as being age 26. Those researching him advise me that he settled in Berks County so it is likely that this is where he met and married Anna Margaret Geiger. The couple had one son, Johannes Werner Schemel, born 1 October 1746 in Oley Township, Berks County. John, Jr. married Elizabeth Holder. There may possibly (probably?) be a connection between Anna Margaret and the John Adam Geiger who settled in North Carolina. Johannes Schemel, Sr. died before 3 February 1749 since Anna Margaret married second Peter Binkley on that date. The family moved to North Carolina and Johannes, Jr. went along with them. A granddaughter of Peter Binkley, Christina Moser, descending from his first marriage, married John Adam Geiger, Jr. (son of the above mentioned John Adam, Sr.). A few more details which may yield clues as to the identity and origin of the Tulpehocken Adam Geiger (who appears in the Blue Mountain Church records) come from the fact that the sponsors at the baptism of John Adam, Jr. were Christopher Kern and wife. I did a search of area records for them and found them at Egypt Reformed Church in Lehigh County, Pennsylvania. The book �Records of Egypt Reformed Church Lehigh County 1734-1834� translated by Charles R. Roberts, 1905 tell us the following: Jacob Kern, son of Christoph Kern and wife Catharina, born 15 January 1785 and baptized 27 February 1785. The sponsors were: Jacob Geiger and wife Eva Catharina. Susanna Geiger, daughter of Jacob Geiger and wife Eva Catharina, born 30 December 1785 and baptized 5 February 1786. The sponsors were: Peter Shreiber and Susanna Kern. Isabella Traxell, daughter of Jonas Traxell and wife Sara born 22 March 1815 and baptized 16 April 1815. The sponsors were: Stephen Traxel and Catharina Geiger. �Jacob Geiger was a clockmaker and died in 1798, leaving a widow and four children Jacob, Catharina, Maria, wife of Solomon Steckel, and Sarah, wife of Jonas Traxel, who later removed to Cassel County (Carroll County), MD. His widow Eva Catharina Kern, was born January 13, 1760 married Adam Traxell, and died August 23, 1829.� It is obvious that there was a close association between these Kerns and Geigers. It would appear that the above mentioned Jacob Geiger would have been too young to have been the Jacob Guyer who is listed on the ship list of the Phoenix in 1752 along with Johan Adam Geiger in view of the fact that this Jacob Geiger�s wife was born in 1760. Additional material received from Barbara Campbell, a descendant of John Adam Geiger/Geyer of Alsace Township, is as follows. Reading, Pennsylvania, was a planned city and the lots were sold at public auction in 1749. There were strings attached to the deeds. The land had to be developed within 7 years. Therefore, carpenters were in great demand in the Reading area in the early 1750s. The John Adam Geyer/Geiger of Alsace was a carpenter. It would be consistent with his profession if he were, indeed, the John Adam Geiger who appears on the ship list in Pennsylvania German Pioneers for the Phoenix in 1752. He may either have been recruited from Germany or met at the docks in Philadelphia and brought to the Reading/Alsace Township area. On the ship Phoenix in 1752 along with John Adam Geiger there was a passenger named Jacob Guyer (whose signature actually appears to read Geiger) as pointed out above. Are the two connected? If so how?

Hello, I'm Rebecca Nisley, from Avon, CT. My mother is Ursula Elsa Geiger, born 25 Jan, 1923 in Berlin, Germany. Her father was Karl Anton Adolf Geiger, born 7 Feb 1881 in Bucharest, Romania, died 1964 Berlin. His father was Mathaeus Geiger, born 19 Sep 1827 in Stein im Hohenzollern, Germany, married to Josphina Wilhelmina Gayer, Born 21 Nov 1839, died 6 Oct 1918 in Bucharest. I don't know at this time if Mathaeus had any siblings; Karl A. A. had only sisters and daughters. Do we connect up with any of you folks?? --- rn

I also need to understand how you "search" the old lists. Also, is there an index where one can look for other names that have rootsweb sites? Eleanor L. Myers myersel@battelle.org

Joan says there are at least 50 of us on this list. My line starts with Christian Geiger who settled in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania in 1747. I know a lot of you, but want to make sure that I haven't missed anyone. My main interest is the current generations. It's been extremely satisfying when 'orphans' find their roots through my database which now contains over 11,000 people and is growing daily. And yes, I have Geigers, Gigers, Gygers, Kygers and even three Kigers. Maggie

In a message dated 7/16/98 5:57:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GEIGER-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: > > My line starts with Christian Geiger who settled in Lancaster County, > Pennsylvania in 1747. Maggie, Do you have John Kiger/Kyger (1770-1833) in your data base? If so, is he related to you Christian Geiger? Dorothy

In a message dated 98-07-16 16:04:18 EDT, you write: > I also need to understand how you "search" the old lists. Also, is there an > index where one can look for other names that have rootsweb sites? Eleanor and all who are interested. First you go to the main Rootsweb Website at: http://www.rootsweb.com and from there you click on SEARCHES at the top of the page. When you get there you go to the bottom of the page and click on "a million messages from over 2000 Genealogy Mailing Lists" and that will take you to the rootsweb search engine. At that page you type in the name of the list you wish to search which in this case is: GEIGER-L Then you will be able to type in on the next page whatever name or subject you wish the search engine to look for in the back messages posted to this list. For example let's say you wish to check for Valentine Geiger--type that in and click on search. Then you will see a page with all back messages listed which include mention of Valentine Geiger. You can then call up the full text of the messages that interest you. This is a great tool which is used by many people to search the archives at rootsweb. Even non list members can search, and find you and contact you if they connect to something you have written to the list. That is why you should not be discouraged if no one has information for you after you initially post your query to the list. To answer the question about learning of other rootsweb mailing lists like this one for other surnames or localities: you can also start at the main rootsweb page as mentioned above and follow the links to search for the appropriate mailing list you wish to find. Have fun searching! Joan

Maggie, I am interested in the Kiger line, are any of your three Kigers from the southern part of Ohio, into Braxton,Nicholas Cos. of WVa? Thank you, Carma JHerold722@aol.com

In a message dated 98-07-16 17:28:37 EDT, you write: > 3 Christian GEIGER II 1748 - Bef. 1830 > . +Anna Margaretha STOEVER 1748 - Bef. 1795 Debbie, thanks for posting your family information to the list. The only comment I would make on your chart would be that we are not sure that Anna Margaretha's maiden name was Stoever. I know it says so in the Monger book on the Kygers but Billie Jo Monger sent me a notice that she feels that has not been proven and wishes that information had not found its way into her book. I agree that it has not been proven and think it would be best to merely state that Anna Margaretha's maiden name is unproven as of now. Would Maggie or Russ care to comment on that? Perhaps they have found something I don't know about on Anna Margaretha. Joan

Hi, Unfortunately I don't know very much about my Geiger line. Here's what I have: Georg Geiger (Sr) born about 1861, somewhere in Bavaria, Germany. He emigrated to the United States, to Baltimore, MD. I have his Naturalization papers from 1900, but have yet to find the application which would be helpful. I did find this on a lookup: Georg Geiger, 22, baker from Bavaria on "Weser" Bremen-Baltimore 15 Aug 1883. The above reference is from a lookup requested out of "Germans to America, Info by Glazier and Filby. Passenger Lists spanning 1850-1881, etc. Each book is individually indexed. This fits the information I have on occupation, etc. He was definitely a baker, started with the railroads in Baltimore but eventually opened his own bakery. Married Selma Hoensch (probably 1887 or so) in Baltimore MD Children: Minnie Selma Geiger b. abt. 1889 Baltimore, MD, died 1916, Baltimore, MD. William David Cullum b. abt 1888 also Baltimore, MD, One child: Clifton b. 1912 Johanna Geiger b. April 24, 1891, Baltimore, MD, died Dec 1978, Baltimore, MD m. Alexander Churchill Guest One Child: Doris Georg Geiger (Jr.). b. abt 1892 died after August 1945 (never married) Elizabeth Geiger b. September 9, 1894, died Oct 21, 1983 m. Edward Werking (no children) The only other clue I have is a postcard mailed from Munich in 1909 to Minnie. I have a friend at work translating the German script so hopefully I might have a better link after she is done. She seems to think there is an address mixed in with the writing. I know my Geiger line basically dies here in America, but I am hoping to follow it backwards. Let me know if anything clicks. Thanks Christina

Maggie, So glad you posted again, I must have missed the one before, due to vacation time in WVa. I am very interested in the Kiger spelling. My grandparents were Kiger. Thanks Carma JHerold722@aol.com

I need instructions on how to search the old list of Geiger's/ Thanks Dot Jmiller789@aol.com

In a message dated 98-07-16 15:11:56 EDT, you write: > Joan says there are at least 50 of us on this list. Maggie, to keep you all up to date--I just checked and we are currently at 80 subscribers and growing daily. If you have not posted your queries in some time it may be time to repost your Most Wanted Geiger or Kiger/Kyger. Also, don't forget the messages to this list are archived at Rootsweb and can be searched by anyone who might come along looking for YOUR Geigers even a year from now--your query will be there for them to find. If you are new to this list you are also welcome to search the archives for "old" list messages that might concern your Geigers. Joan M. Young, GEIGER-L list moderator

> Peggy, If I may ask, what was the source of the info? Steve Steve, my source is a letter (snail mail) from: Pat Tippy, 226 E. Donaldson Ave., Mishawaka, IN 46545-6318 Pat has been researching this line since the mid 1980's. If you can add any info to this line I would be interested in adding it to my database. Thanks in advance, Peg I have added few items you might be interested in: 1 Henry Geiger b: Abt 1803 Germany d: Bef 1870 Kosciusko Co, IN farmer Bur. Baintertown Cem, New Paris, IN +Catherine Berger b: Abt 1808 Germany m: Abt 1844 d: Oct 16, 1873 Kosciusko Co, IN d/o Henry M. Berger and Fredrica Matz 2 John Henry Geiger b: Jul 07, 1844 Starke Co, OH d: Apr 26, 1921 Jefferson Twp, Kosciusko Co, IN Farmer Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN +Mary Ann Ringenberg b: May 13, 1853 IN m: Mar 27, 1870 Warsaw, IN d: Dec 07, 1918 Jefferson Twp, Kosciusko Co, IN d/o Rudolph Ringenberg and Anna "Mary" Mitchell bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN 3 Laura Geiger b: Nov 1870 VanBuren Twp, IN d: Sep 29, 1871 Kosciusco Co, IN Bur. Clunette Cem, Milford, IN 3 Franklin Pierce Geiger b: Jul 1872 VanBuren Twp, IN d: 1937 Gilead, IN never married Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN 3 Charles Henry Geiger b: Nov 29, 1873 VanBuren Twp, Kosciusko Co, IN d: Feb 02, 1937 Rochester, IN Farmer Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN +Nellie Blanche Good b: Jul 03, 1879 Huntington, IN m: Jul 20, 1895 Warsaw, IN d: Dec 05, 1965 Akron, IN d/o Lafayette Good and Susan E. Poh Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN 4 Lloyd Ray Geiger b: Feb 13, 1896 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Apr 17, 1973 CA +Emma B. Lentz m: Mar 14, 1920 4 Mabelle Clara Geiger b: Mar 06, 1897 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Dec 20, 1967 Rochester, IN Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN +Emanuel Kroft m: Apr 28, 1918 Miami Co, IN 4 Charlotte Geiger b: 1899 Kosciusko Co, IN d: 1902 Bur. Island Cem, Milford, IN 4 Cloyce Verlin Geiger b: Feb 19, 1903 Milford, IN d: Jan 11, 1960 Akron, IN Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN +Edith Pontius m: 1927 4 Faudelene Laura Geiger b: Oct 10, 1904 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Oct 27, 1993 Rochester, IN Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN +Guy Hill m: Apr 17, 1923 Wabash Co, IN 4 Faye Elizabeth Geiger b: May 25, 1907 Seward Twp, Kosciusko Co, IN d: Jun 14, 1973 Rochester, IN Bur. IOOF Cem, Rochester, IN +Daniel Lanson Powell m: Sep 04, 1926 Gilead, IN 4 Phyllis Anna Geiger b: Jul 20, 1909 Jefferson Twp, Kosciusko Co, IN d: Oct 07, 1932 Macy, IN Bur. Gilead Cem., Gilead, IN +Lowell Alspach m: May 10, 1929 Crawfordsville, IN 4 Joy Marguerite Geiger b: Jan 16, 1912 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Aug 23, 1985 Rochester, IN Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN +Russell Tilden 4 Henry Lafayette Geiger b: Mar 13, 1914 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Apr 13, 1941 Rochester, IN Bur. Akron Cem, Akron, IN +Betty Slabaugh m: 1934 4 Charles Richard Geiger b: Sep 16, 1915 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Oct 25, 1981 Chicago, IL Bur. Mt. Zion Cem, Rochester, IN +Beulah Hathaway m: Apr 24, 1948 Argos, IN 4 Ethel Martina Geiger b: Aug 21, 1918 Kosciusko Co, IN d: Sep 27, 1976 Rochester, IN Bur. IOOF Cem, Rochester, IN +Andrew Jack Bick m: Dec 22, 1934 3 William Irvin "Dick" Geiger b: Sep 27, 1875 Hastings, IN d: Sep 14, 1959 Goshen, IN Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN +Maude Mae Robinson m: Dec 31, 1906 Warsaw, IN 3 Emily Geiger b: Jul 1880 Hastings, IN d: 1966 Bur. Milford Cem, Milford, IN +Edward M. Lentz b: Jun 1878 IN m: Oct 18, 1899 Warsaw, IN 3 Cora Geiger b: Jun 1882 Hastings, IN d: May 31, 1941 Warsaw, IN Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN +William Arthur Meek m: Apr 27, 1902 Warsaw, IN 3 Walter R. Geiger b: Apr 1884 Hastings, IN d: 1951 +Ada 3 Ancil L. Geiger b: Oct 1888 Hastings, IN d: 1918 Camp Custer, MI never married Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN 3 Leroy Geiger b: Apr 1891 Hastings, IN d: Jun 19, 1957 Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN +Violet R. 3 Harvey C. Geiger b: Jun 1893 Hastings, IN d: 1977 Bur. Naperville, IL? +Velma Sprague 2 Gimima Geiger b: 1847 2 Margaret Anna Geiger b: Aug 07, 1848 d: Nov 08, 1906 Kosciusko Co, IN Bur. Leesburg Cem, Leesburg, IN +William A. Weaver m: Oct 09, 1870 Warsaw, IN

I went looking for those pages that I copied just because they had the name "Kyger" on it. This information came from the AMERICAN GENEALOGICAL- BIOGRAPHICAL INDEX. I made this copy about 1993-4. I didn't know what to do with it, so I kept it. KYGER ----(----)-175?--Heads Fams,PAa:186 Christian,174?--Va,lt,--Rev.War Recds.Va:452 Christian,175?--NC--Heads Fams. N.C.:173 Conrad,175?--NC--Heads Fams.N.C.:173 Daniel,175?--Pa--Heads Fams.Pa:189 George,174?--Pa--Heads Fams.Pa:164 George,175?--Va--Heads Fams.Va:26,70 George,176?--Pa--Heads Fams.Pa:164 George,176?--NC--Heads Fams.N.C.:162 John,175?--Va--Heads Fams.Va:70 Marget,177?--Pa--Pa.Archives,s.2,v.8:425 Michael,175?--Pa--Heads Fams.Pa:189 William,175?--Va--Heads Fams.Va:71 KYGHER Sarah (Wittatue)172?--Pa.Archives,s.2,v.8:145 Valentine,172?--Pa--Pa.Archives,s.2,v.8:145 KYHER Peter,174?--Va--Rev.War Recds.Va:452 This list might give you some new places to look for information. The last name, KYHER, is a new sound. It may or may not be in the Geiger family name, but I thought it might be worth adding it. I'm going to try to get some of my research information that may or may not refer to my very own Kygers organized. However, I have to go for my exercise therapy. I hope that the list is of help to some of you. Kay from FL

In a message dated 98-07-16 07:36:20 EDT, Kay Bolls wrote: > This list might give you some new places to look for information. The last > name, KYHER, is a new sound. It may or may not be in the Geiger family > name, but I thought it might be worth adding it. Kay, Kyher and Geyer and can be so frequently confused with Geiger and Kyger that they bear constant attention. Just last night I was commenting on something very similar on our companion Geyer mailing list. I was pointing out a letter I received in the mail yesterday from Barbara Campbell who does not have e-mail but who is with our lists in "spirit." Barbara is a descendant of John Adam Geiger/Geyer of Alsace Township, Berks County, PA and she had been struggling with the Geyer/Geiger spellings which run about 60% as Geyer and 40% as Geiger for her John Adam. The original spelling is uncertain but his descendants exclusively used the Geiger spelling. Tax lists, church records, etc. all show the spelling of Adam's surname as both Geyer and Geiger in various records. This is what Barbara wrote: "I was talking to an old PA Dutch farmer the other day and he was saying something about the Amity Township Geigers of today. When he said "Geiger" it finally struck me and made quite clear the Geier/Geiger name. The first "G" is hard, like we say it in English, but the 2nd "G" was very soft, almost like a catch of breath--like Geiher. So now I finally understand-the two Gs do NOT have the same sound." As if we needed further confusion! Joan

Hello: I have often wondered how and why Daniel Kyger decided to go to Vermilion Co., IL and take all of his family. The why has a lot of reasons which all seem possible. However, the 'how' was something that came to me when I found out about the fact that they went in longboats down the Ohio River. Later, another 'how' came to mind, or maybe it was another why...Daniel was 71 when the family left Monroe Co. While searching for my Quaker Smith family, one new cousin sent me a copy of an article from a book. I don' have the title of the book nor the writer of the article. However, it does mention many first settlers. One being James Kiger. The very first paragraph says: "The first settlers in Georgetown Township in 1822 were William HAWORTH, James HOWORTH, Achilles MORGAN, Jacob BRAZELTON, James KIGER, and a man named BROOKS. These were from southern states and were farmers." By the way, 'southern states' were East Tennessee, Virginia and the Carolinas, Kentucky and Southern Indiana. Another why is that most of them didn't approve of slavery. Please feel free to write and ask if your descendant is in this article. I seem to remember someone on the list mentioning the name RITTER. Well, both John and Louis Ritter are mentioned.It seems as if you have to read all those pages for even one name. This page about First Settlers tells me a lot about the Kyger family. I can assume that James went ahead to IL, probably with Achilles Morgan and his boys, to clear land for the families to farm. Since Daniel didn't make the trip until 1833, I still have more blank spaces to fill. Its a "neverending story." Somewhere in my files, I think I have a timeline on Daniel that another 'cousin' wrote to try to fill in some of those blanks. Here's to happy searching! Kay

In a message dated 98-07-15 23:58:23 EDT, you write: > I seem to remember someone on the list mentioning the name RITTER. Well, > both John and Louis Ritter are mentioned. Kay, thanks for the story! There have been two references to Ritter or Rutter on this list--but right now I can only put my finger on one of them--one is Isaac Kiger who on 31 Jan. 1814 married Lydia Rutter or Ritter. Joan

Hello! Thought I would make a minor contribution after visiting Dorinda L Shepley's website: http://members.aol.com/DorWinda/index.html I only found one, but there are a lot of other names from Frederick County Cemeteries. WINTER'S (ST. LUKE'S) CEMETERY GEIGER Ida d/3 Feb 1862 @ 1y.10m.4d Peter (19 May 1784 - 7 Aug 1858) 74y.2m.8d ...Charlotte (w/o Peter) (26 Apr 1793 - 6 Sep 1863) @ 70y.4m.10d Hope this will help someone on the list. Kay

Susan, There is a Cornelius Geiger, b. 20 June 1821 d. 10 Feb 1908 buried in the Homeward Cemetery in Camden Co, GA.......also a Mary Ann (Gianovali) Also, other Geigers buried in Camden County cemeteries are: Ernest F. SR. b. 1 Jan 1914 d. 12 April 1959 - St. Marys Eustace Belmont b. 16 March 1877 d. 13 Aug 1878 - Homeward Marion Williamson b. 22 July 1885 d. 14 March 1886 - Homeward Mary Ann b. 1 Aug 1828 d. 25 June 1871 - Homeward Olive Armstead b. 10 Apr 1880 d. 31 May 1880 - Homeward William L. b. 1896 d. 1965 - Pineview Hope this helps. Mary Phillips Orlando, FL

In a message dated 98-07-15 12:53:40 EDT, you write: > 1 Henry Geiger b: Abt 1803 Germany d: Bef 1870 Kosciusko Co, IN > farmer > > +Catherine Berger b: Abt 1808 Germany m: Abt 1844 > d: Oct 16, 1873 Kosciusko Co, IN > 2 John Henry Geiger b: Jul 07, 1844 Starke Co, OH > d: Apr 26, 1921 Kosciusko Co, IN > +Mary Ann Ringenberg b: May 13, 1853 IN m: Mar 27, 1870 Warsaw, IN > d: Dec 07, 1918 Kosciusko Co, IN > 3 Laura Geiger b: Nov 1870 > 3 Franklin Pierce Geiger b: Jul 1872 IN > 3 Charles Henry Geiger b: Nov 29, 1873 > 3 William Irvin Geiger b: Sep 27, 1875 IN > 3 Emily Geiger b: Jul 1880 IN > +Edward M. Lentz b: Jun 1878 IN Peggy, your information should be a great help to Steve. Thanks for posting it. He can now request death certificates for John Henry and Mary Ann as well as Emily! Death records are available in Indiana at the state level beginning in 1907 and can be obtained by writing to: State Board of Health, Division of Vital Records, 1330 West Michigan Street, Indianapolis, IN 46207. Records for Kosciusko County can also be obtained by writing to the county at: 100 W. Center Street, Warsaw, IN 46580. This should eventually lead to immigration records for the immigrant Henry. Joan