This is what I have on the family of Felix and Mary Geiger. My line is through Allen Bethel. As I have said before, I was given the results of years of research by a cousin. I do not have too many of her original sources as of yet. I have no Margaret Geiger listed as a child of Felix. Unless something has come to light in the last few years, I feel that Kathy's research is accurate. It may by chance be out of date if new info has shown up. Since large families were so common then, I would not be surprised if there were more. Just would like to know what source. I will go and double-check her sources. Sydney Descendants of Felix Geiger Generation No. 1 1. Felix6 Geiger (Ulric5, Abraham4 Gyger, Hans3, Abraham2, Hans1) was born September 30, 1763, and died February 17, 1827 in Wayne County, Georgia. He married Mary Martin, daughter of John Martin and Elizabeth. Children of Felix Geiger and Mary Martin are: 2 i. Jacob7 Geiger, born Abt. 1798 in Georgia; died Abt. 1850 in Nassau County, Florida. He married Marjory Simmons; born 1810 in Georgia. 3 ii. John Martin Geiger, born 1797 in Georgia; died December 05, 1873 in LaFayette County, Florida. He married Emily Joyner WFT Est. 1804-1849; born 1804 in Georgia. 4 iii. Allen Bethel Geiger, born October 26, 1802 in Bulloch County, Georgia; died June 07, 1873 in Duval County, Florida. He married (1) Abigail Riggs June 17, 1826 in Wayne County, Georgia; born September 12, 1803; died July 04, 1840. He married (2) Maryann Buford/Bufort Abt. 1843; born December 02, 1816; died April 09, 1898. 5 iv. Felix Geiger, Jr., born February 06, 1804 in Bullock County, Georgia; died 1889 in Middleburg, Florida. He married Alice Sapp Bef. 1842; born 1811 in Tattnall County, Georgia. 6 v. Mary Geiger, born July 01, 1806 in Bulloch County, Georgia; died December 17, 1885 in Marion County, Florida. She married Emanuel Henry Martin February 19, 1826 in Bulloch County, Georgia.

I have - tentatively - Margaret (no dates), dau. of Felix GEIGER and Mary MARTIN, married to ____ JOHNS. But this info comes from the BURVAL website, which puts a disclaimer on everything posted. So I'm no help there. However, to confuse the issue more <g> ... I have Margaret's sibs listed from other sources - again tentatively - as: Jacob [abt 1798. C.A.Geiger Book assigns Jacob as "probable son of Felix, with three or four siblings before him".]; John Martin [born either in 1800 to 1810 (1840 census) - or 1798 (probate records; 1850 census) - or 1797 (gravestone estimate; 1860 census) - or 1801 (1870 census). As the gravestone seemed too new, I chose 1798 - prob. wrong!]; Rachel [abt. 1800, Wayne Co., GA, says her desc. Mrs. Burval]; Allen Bethel [26 Oct 1802]; Felix [6 Feb 1804]; and Mary [1 Jul 1806]. I have all the children born in Bulloch Co., GA, before Felix was awarded the land in Wayne Co. I wonder where the LDS got their info that Margaret was born in 1816. Not impossible, but big gap. Interestingly, both JONES and JOHNS are well-documented families in North Florida. My John Martin GEIGER (above) had a dau. Mary GEIGER born abt. 1833, who marr. abt. 1850 Archibald H. JONES, born 1830. They are on the 1850 Alachua Co., FL, census, p. 16, as newly-weds. Three houses down, we find the Nathaniel (50) and Kesiah (49) JONES family, prob. his parents. By 1870, Mary is living near her parents in Lafayette Co., as head of family with four sons. Arch could have died in the War. If I had the time <SIGH!>, I'd like to do a comparison study of JONES and JOHNS in the censuses. Anne C. -----Original Message----- From: susan wilson <[email protected]> >Faye, > After looking around, I found some info that indicates she is the >daughter of Felix and Mary, born 1816 in GA and died 28 Sept. in Stark, >Florida. This is attributed to the LDS information on the Johns family. >Susan >----- Original Message ----- >From: "walenceus" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Archibald H. Johns > >> >> I have nothing to support Margaret's being the daughter of Cornelius. I >had >> thought the marriage took place in Camden County, Georgia, and that made >me >> think it might be Cornelius. But I actually don't know where the marriage >> took place. >> >> Faye

In a message dated 10/16/00 3:04:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Assuming that someone wants to get a person recognized, but like me, they > are not eligible for DAR, how would you suggest is the best way to > accomplish this?? > > I know about SAR... Gerry- There is no way to have an ancestor recognized as being an approved ancestor for DAR other than applying to DAR for membership and having the application and proofs approved by first the Chapter Register and then the DAR Registrar General and staff genealogist. What the DAR list of approved ancestors is is just a record of the ancestors that were used by those who did apply for membership and service and lineage was verified--it isn't intended to be an all-encompassing list of those who served in the Revolution. I have ancestors who served in the Revolution who aren't on the list that I never bothered to submit as supplementals. Joan

Annie, there is a lot of information on the Johns on the Web. There is a Johns Family Research Group at Http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~jfrg/johnsf11_l.htm Abraham Harroll Geiger married Avey Jane Lee her mother was Averilla Johns who m. John Lee. Archibald H Johns is a brother to Averilla Johns. He was born 1812 Camden Co, Ga and died 1/6/1879 in Starke, Fla. He married Margaret Prevatt, Margaret Geiger and Addie A Roberts. Margaret Geiger and Archibald had six children. Margaret died Sept 26, 1851 in Starke, Fla. Huxford Wiregrass of Georgia has quite a bit on the Johns. You may already have all this information. Dot

Chaille, There are lots and lots of Ohio Geiger's. You don't state whether Margaret/ Maria's father, Nicholas, arrived in America with her or the time frame. Maggie Kyger Miller ([email protected])

Susan, thanks ever so much. I had Margaret with those dates listed as a daughter of Felix and Mary marrying an unknown Johns. Duh! Faye

Faye, After looking around, I found some info that indicates she is the daughter of Felix and Mary, born 1816 in GA and died 28 Sept. in Stark, Florida. This is attributed to the LDS information on the Johns family. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "walenceus" <[email protected]> To: "susan wilson" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Archibald H. Johns > Susan, > > I have nothing to support Margaret's being the daughter of Cornelius. I had > thought the marriage took place in Camden County, Georgia, and that made me > think it might be Cornelius. But I actually don't know where the marriage > took place. > > Faye > > >

I was hoping Joan would get into this since she is a DAR Officer, but you need to look in the register of patriots and if he is not there, then you might want to apply to join the DAR yourself with all the records...That will get him recognized... >From: "Tippets" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger >Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:03:27 -0500 > >Dear Gerald and Anne, I saw the mention of Samuel Geiger and was wondering: >is he already listed as a Patriot for the DAR? I have some info on him as >he was my GGG-grandfather. He had a plantation in Alachua Co., Fla. How >does one learn if their ancestor is listed with the DAR? Thanks, B. >Tippets >[email protected] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gerald Gieger" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:55 PM >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger > > > > I have a copy of a claim that Abraham made for supplies, i.e., beef on >the > > hoof...so that should qualify him, but I wanted to get as much other >data >as > > possible, because of the rumor that the emigrant Abraham had Torrie > > sympathies... > > > > > > >From: "Connell" <[email protected]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger > > >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:20:27 -0400 > > > > > >Sure do remember that, Gerry. From my notes: > > > > > >"In 1811, Cornelius was in Capt. James BIRD's Co., of PRAY's 2nd Reg. >of > > >the > > >GA Militia Infantry, with his nephews Jeremiah and Samuel, sons of >Abraham > > >and Mercy. He was discharged 15 Apr 1815 at Bulloch Co. Court House. >He > > >put in for soldier's lot, #107 - 333 District, 9th District, 2nd Sec. >of > > >Indian lands now called Wayne Co., GA. Was there near Tuckerville, as >head > > >of family in 1820 and in 1840. Brother Felix also removed to Wayne >Co." > > >Some of this came from Chubb GEIGER's book. > > > > > >"Georgia Archives say a Felix GEIGER was "Sergt. in Capt. RAWLS' Co., >15 > > >Feb > > >1794", and was on records in Effingham Co. from 1784 to 1815. Chubb >GEIGER > > >said Felix and Cornelius might have served in Florida with the Georgia > > >militia." > > > > > >I missed any refs. to Abraham and John serving with Felix. That sure >would > > >be a logical fit. I'll look through my files again. > > > > > >About the DAR/SAR - do you have evidence that they served in the Rev. >War, > > >too? That would really be great! I have Abe born 1758 to 1761, Felix >1763 > > >and John 1765. > > > > > >Anne C. > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Gerald Gieger <[email protected]> > > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > >Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:25 PM > > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger > > > > > > > > > >Abraham, John, and Felix were all under Rawl's command in Effingham > > > >County...I have the Roster at home in Texas...planned to use it to >get > > >them > > > >recognized as Patriots for the DAR & SAR... > > > > > > > >My guess is that Rachel died before marriageable age... > > > >I guess 16 might not be too young... > > > > > > > >I recall that Cornelius was also on a Roster, but can't say > > > >positively...You remember that we copied those in Macon??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > > >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > > > > >============================== > > >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > >http://www.ancestry.com/search > > >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > > Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > > > ============================== > > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/search >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Contact your local DAR group and ask them to look him up in the index books that the DAR does. If someone has joined under him you can request a copy of that information and they will give you a copy for a small fee if your a non member. If however you are trying to join under him they will also help you out that way too. Hope this helps you some, Gail

In a message dated 10/16/00 12:55:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I was hoping Joan would get into this since she is a DAR Officer, but you > need to look in the register of patriots and if he is not there, then you > might want to apply to join the DAR yourself with all the records...That > will get him recognized... Samuel Geiger is NOT listed in the Centennial Edition of the Patriot Index. Quite a few new approved ancestors were added since then, but I don't have a record of those. Joan

Susan, I have nothing to support Margaret's being the daughter of Cornelius. I had thought the marriage took place in Camden County, Georgia, and that made me think it might be Cornelius. But I actually don't know where the marriage took place. Faye

Faye, Is there any evidence pointing to the fact that she might be a daughter of Cornelius? Susan > > Does anyone know who this Margaret Geiger was? Was she a daughter of > Cornelius and Rebecca Bennett? > > Faye > > ______________________________

Dear Gerald and Anne, I saw the mention of Samuel Geiger and was wondering: is he already listed as a Patriot for the DAR? I have some info on him as he was my GGG-grandfather. He had a plantation in Alachua Co., Fla. How does one learn if their ancestor is listed with the DAR? Thanks, B. Tippets [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger > I have a copy of a claim that Abraham made for supplies, i.e., beef on the > hoof...so that should qualify him, but I wanted to get as much other data as > possible, because of the rumor that the emigrant Abraham had Torrie > sympathies... > > > >From: "Connell" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger > >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:20:27 -0400 > > > >Sure do remember that, Gerry. From my notes: > > > >"In 1811, Cornelius was in Capt. James BIRD's Co., of PRAY's 2nd Reg. of > >the > >GA Militia Infantry, with his nephews Jeremiah and Samuel, sons of Abraham > >and Mercy. He was discharged 15 Apr 1815 at Bulloch Co. Court House. He > >put in for soldier's lot, #107 - 333 District, 9th District, 2nd Sec. of > >Indian lands now called Wayne Co., GA. Was there near Tuckerville, as head > >of family in 1820 and in 1840. Brother Felix also removed to Wayne Co." > >Some of this came from Chubb GEIGER's book. > > > >"Georgia Archives say a Felix GEIGER was "Sergt. in Capt. RAWLS' Co., 15 > >Feb > >1794", and was on records in Effingham Co. from 1784 to 1815. Chubb GEIGER > >said Felix and Cornelius might have served in Florida with the Georgia > >militia." > > > >I missed any refs. to Abraham and John serving with Felix. That sure would > >be a logical fit. I'll look through my files again. > > > >About the DAR/SAR - do you have evidence that they served in the Rev. War, > >too? That would really be great! I have Abe born 1758 to 1761, Felix 1763 > >and John 1765. > > > >Anne C. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Gerald Gieger <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:25 PM > >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Samuel Gieger > > > > > > >Abraham, John, and Felix were all under Rawl's command in Effingham > > >County...I have the Roster at home in Texas...planned to use it to get > >them > > >recognized as Patriots for the DAR & SAR... > > > > > >My guess is that Rachel died before marriageable age... > > >I guess 16 might not be too young... > > > > > >I recall that Cornelius was also on a Roster, but can't say > > >positively...You remember that we copied those in Macon??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > >http://www.ancestry.com/search > >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp >

Could the name of Archibald Johns who married Margaret Geiger also be spelled Jons?

I found a note in my misc. Geiger file that says Archibald H. Johns, born May 12, 1810, married1 Margaret Prevatt, married2 Margaret Geiger, married3 Addie Roberts. Does anyone know who this Margaret Geiger was? Was she a daughter of Cornelius and Rebecca Bennett? Faye

I got permission from Sandra to post her message on the lists. Joan Subj: Kiger Date: 10/12/00 9:58:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Sandra Izer) To: [email protected] Hello Joan, I do historical research in the Western Maryland region, and have for several years been trying to identify the earliest inhabitants here from a 1767 list of Lord Baltimore's tenants of the Manor of Conococheague, an 18000 land tract encompasing most of Washington County, Maryland. There are 80 individuals listed and the very last entry has for years been transcribed as Thiger. After having stared at the name for years I have concluded the name is actually KIger, the mistake being made with the TH into a K.The entry reads; #80 Anthony Kiger, 100 acres, lies in the barrens, has some little wood on it, a field cleared of 12 acres with a cabbin... [Barrens is an 18th century term for land that had been cleared by the Indians by burning off the trees and developing grasslands. When the trees failed to grow back quickly, the land was thought to be barren.] I cruised around the web sites for Kiger, but found no Anthony, can you help?? Thank you Sandra Izer, Williamsport, Maryland

Thanks.....this is great information to know! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:07 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Re: Batch Numbers > Susan, Marcia: > > I have a copy of the I.G.I. Reference Guide and it states the following: > > "A batch number consists of seven characters. The first letter or numbers indicate the type of source. > > M......(except M17, M18) This source is a marriage record extracted as part of the record extraction program. You may find parents' names, witnesses' names, birth dates and places, the ages of the bride and groom, or the groom's or the father's > occupation; the source may not contain any additional information. > > M.....17 & M.....18) The source is an early Latter-day saint temple sealing record. The information on these records was extracted in the 1790s. As a general rule, if the marriage date and place were not listed in the temple record, the entry > was not extracted. However, it was not always possible to tell whether the sealing date and place were, also the original marriage date and place. Therefore, some names were extracted with the sealing date and place used for the marriage date and > place, especially names from Utah, Arizona, Mexico, Hawaii, Nebraska, Iowa, and Alberta. These names have M 17..... and M 18 batch numbers. The marriage information may be incorrect. For example, a couple may have been married in England 20 years > before they were sealed. However, the sealing to spouse ordinance information is correct." > > Hope this helps. > > Mickey > > > susan wilson wrote: > > > Marcia, > > I went to the LDS site (www.familysearch.org) but could not find the > > document in question. Usually the M prior to a number is a batch number for > > the LDS listings. I do not know what a batch number refers to. The second > > number could be a microfilm number. I placed it in their search engine and > > it does not reference a Geiger file. So maybe that is a national archives > > microfilm number. If the M is a batch number from the LDS, you can contact > > them from the site and see if it refers to one of their numbers. I know my > > ancestor was on that list and I found the microfilm at the Georgia state > > archives but I never tried to cross reference the numbers. Maybe if you > > research Ohio microfilms from the LDS or National Archives of Ohio state > > archives you can find the original documents. Susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > >

Forwarded from another list >From: Alice Dauro <[email protected]> >Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] info of all states >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:31:30 -0500 > > >THIS SITE MAY HELP SOMEONE >It has a lot of info for each stste, >http://www.pac-info.com/index.shtml > > >==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >Help yourself to some data at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi in the >database, and be sure to leave a little for others. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

My server is being discontinues sometime this fall. If you have trouble getting in touch with my you can try [email protected] or if that fails try [email protected] My GEIGER family starts with Henry GEIGER. He came to Dubuque Iowa from Europe just before the Civil War. He fought in the Civil War. He is buried in Dubuque with his first wife. GEIGER, Henry Birth : 28 MAY 1840 Baden,Germany Death : DEC 1901 Family: Marriage: 1868 Spouse: HUG, Anna Birth : 1840 Baden,Germany Death : 1872 Children: GEIGER, Henry Jr. Birth : 1870 2nd Family: Marriage: 1875 in Dubuque,Dubuque,IA Spouse: MARTY, Mary Children: GEIGER, Elizabeth Ann GEIGER, Edward Birth : 1877 IA GEIGER, Rosa GEIGER, Maria GEIGER, William Birth : 1886 Rebecca Lamb, Lecturer University of Dayton (937)229-3832 [email protected]

Susan, Marcia: I have a copy of the I.G.I. Reference Guide and it states the following: "A batch number consists of seven characters. The first letter or numbers indicate the type of source. M......(except M17, M18) This source is a marriage record extracted as part of the record extraction program. You may find parents' names, witnesses' names, birth dates and places, the ages of the bride and groom, or the groom's or the father's occupation; the source may not contain any additional information. M.....17 & M.....18) The source is an early Latter-day saint temple sealing record. The information on these records was extracted in the 1790s. As a general rule, if the marriage date and place were not listed in the temple record, the entry was not extracted. However, it was not always possible to tell whether the sealing date and place were, also the original marriage date and place. Therefore, some names were extracted with the sealing date and place used for the marriage date and place, especially names from Utah, Arizona, Mexico, Hawaii, Nebraska, Iowa, and Alberta. These names have M 17..... and M 18 batch numbers. The marriage information may be incorrect. For example, a couple may have been married in England 20 years before they were sealed. However, the sealing to spouse ordinance information is correct." Hope this helps. Mickey susan wilson wrote: > Marcia, > I went to the LDS site (www.familysearch.org) but could not find the > document in question. Usually the M prior to a number is a batch number for > the LDS listings. I do not know what a batch number refers to. The second > number could be a microfilm number. I placed it in their search engine and > it does not reference a Geiger file. So maybe that is a national archives > microfilm number. If the M is a batch number from the LDS, you can contact > them from the site and see if it refers to one of their numbers. I know my > ancestor was on that list and I found the microfilm at the Georgia state > archives but I never tried to cross reference the numbers. Maybe if you > research Ohio microfilms from the LDS or National Archives of Ohio state > archives you can find the original documents. Susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> >