Gary, thanks for your reply and all the information! You gave me a lot to read for me. I agree with you, it will be a difficult road to make the connection, but on the other hand, a challenge! regards Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Ruppert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:04 AM Subject: [GEIGER] Re: GEIGER-D Digest V00 #233 > I have responded privately to Tom. > > Gary > 24 Nov 2000 > Baltimore > > > > ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- > Originally From: [email protected] > Subject: GEIGER-D Digest V00 #233 > Date: 11/24/2000 08:00pm > > > > > X-Message: #1 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:58:44 -0800 > From: Tom George Geiger <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-Id: <[email protected]> > Subject: [GEIGER] Johann Georg > > Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum > Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/251 > > Surname: Geiger > ------------------------- > > Hello Gary, > With much interest I was reading the messages about Johann Georg > Geiger. > in my line of Geigers, the name Johann George is still coming back. I > am > named to my grandfather Johann George. > Originated my line is from Germany,Neighborhood of Wuertemberg > Geisingen, > Neckarweihingen and Kornwestheim. > Even the time frame you mentioned matched. > I like to invite you to have a look at my site: http://run.to/geiger > or > http://home.hetnet.nl/~tomirene/index.html > I search for Johann Georg. Do you have more information at any site? > PS. the name Johann Georg is originated from Germany, one line to the > Netherlands, > one line to the UK, and two possible lines from the Netherlands to the > USA. > I hope this information is helpfull to you and maybe you can fill in > some > blanks at my end. > Regards > Tom Geiger > > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list send an e-mail to: [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest mode) and put only one word--either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject and the body of the message. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

I have responded privately to Tom. Gary 24 Nov 2000 Baltimore ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: [email protected] Subject: GEIGER-D Digest V00 #233 Date: 11/24/2000 08:00pm

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/251 Surname: Geiger ------------------------- Hello Gary, With much interest I was reading the messages about Johann Georg Geiger. in my line of Geigers, the name Johann George is still coming back. I am named to my grandfather Johann George. Originated my line is from Germany,Neighborhood of Wuertemberg Geisingen, Neckarweihingen and Kornwestheim. Even the time frame you mentioned matched. I like to invite you to have a look at my site: http://run.to/geiger or http://home.hetnet.nl/~tomirene/index.html I search for Johann Georg. Do you have more information at any site? PS. the name Johann Georg is originated from Germany, one line to the Netherlands, one line to the UK, and two possible lines from the Netherlands to the USA. I hope this information is helpfull to you and maybe you can fill in some blanks at my end. Regards Tom Geiger

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/250 Surname: ------------------------- Paul: Thanks for the reply to my message from last year about Geigers in NYC. Unfortunately, I don't recognize any of the information in your e-mail, but that's mostly because I haven't a clue about Johann Georg Geiger's biologic family. He would have been about 29 years old in 1850, so I suspect Henry was too young to be his father. I will certainly keep this information in my file. If I ever find a connection I will let you know. Thank you again for your help. Gary 23 Nov 2000 Baltmore

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/249 Surname: geiger ------------------------- At the time of the 1850 census, my gggrandmother, Carolina Geiger, was living with her husband Joseph Hoffmann, a butcher, at 241 3rd St in NYC. The next entry in the census is for the following family: Henry Geiger,43;Amelia Geiger,24;Louisa geiger,23; Amelia Geiger,2;Charlotte Geiger,8/12;Philip Geiger,18. Henry and Philip are varnishers. I assume Carolina may be related to this family, but I have not substantiated it. Does any of this tie into your NYC Geiger research?

Hi, The (Dutch) GEIGER genealogical site is now accessible in the English, Dutch and German language! Please have a look at: http://home.hetnet.nl/~tomirene/index.html or: http://run.to/geiger Other surnames in this database: Boerhoop - Buskens - Begemann - Bohringer Brink - Bruins Slot Catalani - Clarenbach Dam - (van) Droffelaar de Jong - de Ligt - de Vijver Deinema - Deenhart Flattich Flohr - Foresto Gerritsen Hes- Hill- Hall Kiekens Lucas (van) Nieuwenhoven Scherrin - Stuberin - Sebold - Schmidt - Schuurmans Schaafsma Trobsten - Teeken -Walker Regards Tom Geiger

Another problem that folks should be aware of is, this Website draws from and had a link to the Burval site, which is rife with known errors...I complained so much that they finally de-linked the Burval site...which puts out erroneous information tentamount to fabrications...very little is documented...but it boasts a "disclaimer" to the lack of documentation...It has caused multiple folks to go off half-cocked... >From: "Connell" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GEIGER] Weberites--JOHN GEIGER >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:50:57 -0500 > >Interesting site, Joan ... but I can't agree with her statement that the >infamous "John GEIGER" - whom no one else has been able to identify - is >"Saxe Gotha Neighbor John Jacob GEIGER". There were at least three of that >name in the area - the old Governor, his son and his nephew - and all would >likely have been called "Jacob", not "John". It is difficult to sort them >out, but they shouldn't be lumped together as one man and called murderer! >And there were several John GEIGERs. > >The Weberite scenario played out in 1761. The records show that in 1737, >former Cantonal Gov. Hans Jacob GYGER (b. 1679) and his brother Abraham >GYGER (b. 1687) brought their families to SC from SWT, becoming GEIGER. >Hs. >Jacob had sons Herman (b. 1707), Hs. Heinrich (b. 1713 - perhaps the >"Henry" >in records), and Hs. Jacob (b. 1720). Abraham had sons Hs. Jacob (b. >1718), >Johannes [John] (b. 1721) and Hs. Ulrich (b. 1730). > >Gov. Hs. Jacob's oldest son Herman had sons John Conrad (b. SWT), Jacob >(prob. b. SWT), Herman (b. 1738, SC) and John (b. 1748, SC). But we don't >know every child the other cousins might have produced and there are other >male names we can't identify. > >I assume most of the young cousins grew up and married in SC. Abraham's >son, Johannes, prob. is one of the "John GEIGERs" found in SC records. In >1766, his younger brother Hans Ulrich (b. 1730) applied for permission to >remove his family (wife, three ch. and one slave) to GA "for the purpose of >farming". Did Johannes/John go with them? > >When Herman's son John Conrad GEIGER died in 1772 in SC, his widow Barbara >MURFF and his brother John GEIGER were co-executors. Percy GEIGER and the >Herman GEIGER Memorial both show brother John (1748-1817) married to Ann >MURFF [m. 1767] and with five children. Another source said this John (no >dates given) married Emily MURFF and that their only child was Emily >GEIGER, >the Rev. War heroine (b. ca. 1762). > >This is not an easy family to figure out! > >Anne C. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > > >This was just sent to me. It may have been posted to the list before, >but > >since I'm not sure so I'll repost it. > > > >Joan > > > >URL: http://www.weberites.com > >TITLE: THE WEBERITE HERESY OF SAXE GOTHA IN THE > >CAROLINA > > > > > > > > > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Interesting site, Joan ... but I can't agree with her statement that the infamous "John GEIGER" - whom no one else has been able to identify - is "Saxe Gotha Neighbor John Jacob GEIGER". There were at least three of that name in the area - the old Governor, his son and his nephew - and all would likely have been called "Jacob", not "John". It is difficult to sort them out, but they shouldn't be lumped together as one man and called murderer! And there were several John GEIGERs. The Weberite scenario played out in 1761. The records show that in 1737, former Cantonal Gov. Hans Jacob GYGER (b. 1679) and his brother Abraham GYGER (b. 1687) brought their families to SC from SWT, becoming GEIGER. Hs. Jacob had sons Herman (b. 1707), Hs. Heinrich (b. 1713 - perhaps the "Henry" in records), and Hs. Jacob (b. 1720). Abraham had sons Hs. Jacob (b. 1718), Johannes [John] (b. 1721) and Hs. Ulrich (b. 1730). Gov. Hs. Jacob's oldest son Herman had sons John Conrad (b. SWT), Jacob (prob. b. SWT), Herman (b. 1738, SC) and John (b. 1748, SC). But we don't know every child the other cousins might have produced and there are other male names we can't identify. I assume most of the young cousins grew up and married in SC. Abraham's son, Johannes, prob. is one of the "John GEIGERs" found in SC records. In 1766, his younger brother Hans Ulrich (b. 1730) applied for permission to remove his family (wife, three ch. and one slave) to GA "for the purpose of farming". Did Johannes/John go with them? When Herman's son John Conrad GEIGER died in 1772 in SC, his widow Barbara MURFF and his brother John GEIGER were co-executors. Percy GEIGER and the Herman GEIGER Memorial both show brother John (1748-1817) married to Ann MURFF [m. 1767] and with five children. Another source said this John (no dates given) married Emily MURFF and that their only child was Emily GEIGER, the Rev. War heroine (b. ca. 1762). This is not an easy family to figure out! Anne C. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >This was just sent to me. It may have been posted to the list before, but >since I'm not sure so I'll repost it. > >Joan > >URL: http://www.weberites.com >TITLE: THE WEBERITE HERESY OF SAXE GOTHA IN THE >CAROLINA

Descendants of Roy Geiger are justly proud of this flying leatherneck if WW II. Those who did not see the film can obtain copies from the History Channel. It is called Unsung Heroes.

Nov 11 - Sun - Story of Roy Geiger in World War II is about to be on the History Channel at 8 P.M. (right now at this very minute.) Wish I had known sooner but maybe someone will be able to see it. Margie

Yes that's the way to do it, share and share alike. Gail -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 4:42 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Sign of relief >Received the following e-mail from an obviously very nice and generous lady: > >"Maggie, > I would be happy to share it with you for just the cost of copying and >mailing. I am descended from two of the families being researched and of >the McPherson family as well so I was anxious to have what was being >offered, but if you had succeeded, I would have been asking the same thing >of you, believe me. > I'll be sending them money Monday since tomorrow is a postal holiday. >When >I get the research, I'll tally the number of copies and the cost and let you >know what it will be and then you can send me your mailing address so I can >send you the copies. If you want just the pages that relate to your >surnames, just let me know. >Margaret Gonzalez" > > >Maggie Kyger Miller >([email protected]) > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEIGER-L/ > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

In a message dated 11/10/00 7:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Received the following e-mail from an obviously very nice and generous lady: Maggie- And did you remember to invite her to join the list? <g> Joan

Received the following e-mail from an obviously very nice and generous lady: "Maggie, I would be happy to share it with you for just the cost of copying and mailing. I am descended from two of the families being researched and of the McPherson family as well so I was anxious to have what was being offered, but if you had succeeded, I would have been asking the same thing of you, believe me. I'll be sending them money Monday since tomorrow is a postal holiday. When I get the research, I'll tally the number of copies and the cost and let you know what it will be and then you can send me your mailing address so I can send you the copies. If you want just the pages that relate to your surnames, just let me know. Margaret Gonzalez" Maggie Kyger Miller ([email protected])

Thanks, Joan. I was so disappointed I didn't stop to think. Was able to get the high bidder's e-mail address so wrote the person saying I would be happy to pay for copies of the files. I also explained that I wanted to post the information at a genealogical site. Maggie Kyger Miller ([email protected])

In a message dated 11/10/00 4:24:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Did not get the Brubaker Family files that had the Geiger research. > > Ten minutes before the bidding closed someone topped my bid of $35.00. > Lesson learned the hard way. E-bay will notify you if your bid is > topped--but obiously the timing was too close. Need to stay with the > bidding > until the last second. > > Shucks. Maggie- Do they tell you who got it? Joan

Did not get the Brubaker Family files that had the Geiger research. Ten minutes before the bidding closed someone topped my bid of $35.00. Lesson learned the hard way. E-bay will notify you if your bid is topped--but obiously the timing was too close. Need to stay with the bidding until the last second. Shucks. Maggie Kyger Miller ([email protected])

----- Original Message ----- From: "T.G.Geiger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Swiss Geigers > Hi Deanna, > Thanks for your mail. > > I have no proof or information yet, that Jacob's grandson moved to the > Swiss. > What kind of information do you have? > regards, > Tom Geiger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:41 PM > Subject: Swiss Geigers > > > > I am trying to locate the lineage of David Geiger b. 1755 Basel Half > Canton, > > Switzerland. Could he possibly the grandson of your Jakob Geiger > > (1701-1723)? The dates are in line. >

Hi everyone, I have been spending the past couple of months in search of one of the families on my mother's side...one that has eluded me for a long time. Then today, by mail, I received a copy of papers from the home of my husband's late aunt, Tony Geiger Wike. They are all Xerox copies of memories that Aunt Tony had of some of her family. They refer to her father, Leland Geiger and his sister, and the lessons taught over so many years of living. There is long section dealing with just the vocabulary of the family...the little expressions passed down from a more "genteel" time. It is a fascinating incite into family so long gone. To read it is to almost be there...a picture of the times, the people who lived then, a capture of the personalities. It brought to mind how we have forgotten to remember. To be sure, these papers document but brief highlights of those mentioned. But with them, these individuals have come to life once again. In searching for this elusive family of mine, I have thought more then once of the unusual nature of that family. Here were people that immigrated from Italy at the end of the 1800's. There were a number from the same family. If you map out where they lived, it was within 2/10ths of a mile from one another. And yet no one alive today knows anything about the other families... The cousins attended the same schools, the parents the same churches, but the connections that made them family have disappeared. I have a list of people with the same names but no relationships. I probably know more about people with that last name then anyone else...and I virtually know nothing. It is so sad that the connections were lost. That the commonality has faded as the generations continue. And then I receive these papers and know some of the nature of these people of another family. And I recognize the importance of the stories passed on... not just the names and dates. What I would like to remind everyone is to take the time to jot down your memories of your own family, of what they meant to you. Someday, someone will pass those papers on and they will be invaluable. And while we search back for generations, let us not forget to record what we know best...the current generations. One day they too will have descendents that will be curious to know about these "ordinary" people. To be "alive" in one's memory might be the only immortality any of us will ever really know. Susan

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/248 Surname: GEIGER ------------------------- Searching for Hannah Pennell Geiger b. about 1842 in Chester County, Pa. Married a Geiger , lived in Berks County, Pa., and later near Mansfield, Ohio. Need info on Geigers or Hannah's family.

Yes Maggie, I know what you mean, I''ve had many hits with Joanne's name on he internet myself. I usually search for Kiger and Kyger on Ebay and that was the first time I had a hit on Kyger. I usually have hits on Kiger, but its usually Susan and Lynn Kiger in Playboy magazines and some of Susan's movies. Several weeks back there was a thermometer that I was bidding on that was an advertisement for Earl W. Kiger company in Indianapolis Indiana and I dropped out at $147.00. I wanted it, but not that bad. The final winner of the bidding war was a Randy Kiger from Rural Hall, N.C., at least a Kiger won the final bid. Walter John Kiger [email protected] wrote: > Walter, > > Gosh, only thought it was funny because everywhere I go on the internet > looking for Kyger's she shows up. And there she was again--on EBay! > > Maggie Kyger Miller > ([email protected]) >