The first of these lands is probably Herman, Sr.; however, the others are too early to have been Herman's children, so they are likely Herman's brother, Hans Jacob, Jr., or his father, Hans, Sr. Do you agree? Warren
HERMAN GEIGER, Plantation 450 acres above Congaree River bounded to Northeast by Broad River on all other sides vacant land. June 7, 1751. Certified by George Hunter. November 2_, 1749. (Land Grant Bk. Chas. Lib. Society) Bounty Land Grants Chas. Lib. Societ. Jacob Geiger, 150 acres of land on Northside of Santee River opposite Saxe-Gotha Township bounded to Southwest by said river, to Northwest by John Pears land and on the other side by vacant lands. Grant by George II given under Great Seal of Province, June 7, 1751. Grant delivered to John Jacob Geiger, April 29, 1752. Plantation 150 acres in Craven County opposite to Saxe-Gotha Township. Bounding Southeast on land laid out to Henry? Feisler and part on South side of Congaree River, To Northwest land of John Pearson, to Northeast on land of John Pearson and vacant land and part laid out for Henry Feisler. John Jacob Geiger all that parcel or Trust of Land containing One Hundred Acres, Situate lying and being on the North Side of Santee or Congaree River opposite to the lower part of Saxe-Gotha Township butting and bounding to the Northeastward part on land belonging to John Hamilton and part not laid out. Granted by George II, Given under Crest Seal of Province December 12, 1746. Certified by George Hunter, Surveyor ___ August 24, 1743. John Geiger, A certain plantation or Trust of Land 150 acres, Scituate lying and being in Craven County in the Province aforesaid, Bounded on all sides by vacant lands, Grant by George II February 10, 1749. Certified by George Hunter, Surveyor _em. October 7, 17__.
Thanks to all for the replies on the SC land deeds & Murffs. I was able to find a few of these in the back of some old Leonardo Andrea information I found regarding the Murffs. Andrea evidently included a few of these with the Murff information for the same reason I was looking for them. Warren, regarding Herman Geiger being married to Margaretha instead of Elizabeth, I found in the Geiger List Archives from 1999 the following : >From "Abstracts of the Wills of the State of South Carolina, 1740-1760", by Caroline T. Moore, p. 138: "HERMAN GEIGER, Saxegotha Township, planter. Wife: Elizabeth, plantation where I now live during her widowhood. Sons: eldest John Conrad, said plantation; Jacob, 2 tracts on south side Santee River; Herman, land on south side Broad River, land purchased of Adam SKEIKIL; youngest John, land on north side Broad River purchased of Michael POMER, land purchased of Peter SMITH. Daus: [not named]. Mentions: "I desire that Stephen CREEL be in no manner employed about or have concern with my books papers or anything Relating to or Concerning any of my affairs whatsoever." Exors: wife; son John Conrad; brother-in-law John GOLLMAN; Mr. Benjamin SMITH; Mr. Henry LAWRENCE. Wit: Hans Jacob REMMSFRUGER, Frederick HOUX, John REMINGTON. D: 20 Oct 1751. P: 6 Sept. 1751 (sic). R: nd. p. 450. [Part of will in original book destroyed]." End of will. At least when Herman died, he had a wife named Elizabeth. I guess Margaretha could be a middle name or an earlier wife....if either. Does anyone know if this Herman Geiger (Sr.) of the will above was the son of Hans Jacob Geiger (b. 1679) and Margareta Ferrin who came to the Carolinas in 1737 and was a former cantonial governor in Switzerland?? Skip, you have Lavina Kaigler as the wife of Herman Jr., which Ive seen too, but recently I saw another name .Margaret Theiler as his wife. Do you know anything about a second wife or what the deal is here? I had only one child for John Randolph and Elizabeththanks for the others. Elizabeths father, John Murff who died at Cowpens, is suspected to be the brother of my ancestor, Jacob Murff. Jacob had a son named Randolph, which seems to tie the knot a little tighter there on the Murff/Geiger connection to me. I also wonder if my Jacob didnt marry a Geiger girl. I am sending in a separate e-mail to the List the Geiger SC land deeds I found (abstracts). Thanks for any help on the above. Jan Murff Melton
Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/288 Surname: Geiger ------------------------- Dick, Thank you for the information that you have provided to me. I would like to share our family bible with you. The bible dates from 1847 and I believe was owned by James Geiger. Marriages: James Geiger and Elizabeth Hoyer were married on the ninth day of January A.D. 1849 John L. Geiger and Anna Bell were married on the first day of May A.D. 1888 Births: James Geiger son of Jacob and Susanna Geiger was born on the 7th day of February 1825 and was baptized December 29th, 1861. Elizabeth, daughter of Samuel and Susanna Hoyer, now intermarried with James Geiger, was born on the 13th day of November A.D. 1819 Jacob Theodore son of James and Elizabeth Geiger was born on the 27th day of November A.D. 1849 was baptized May 1st, 1853. John Luther, son of James and Elizabeth Geiger was born on the 12th day of January A.D. 1853 and was baptized May 1st, 1853. Lewis Albert, son of James and Elizabeth Geiger was born on the 3rd day of December A.D. 1856 and was baptized June1, 1861. James Mabery Geiger, son of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 9th day of November A.D. 1888. Arnold L. Geiger, son of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 31st day of January 1890. Mary Elizabeth, daughter of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 18th day of January 1891. Allice Mae, daughter of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 27th day of November 1892. John Thomas, son of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 20th day of January 1894. Sarah Maud, daughter of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 22nd day of July 1895. William, son of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 24th day of December 1896. Jennie Hellen, daughter of John L. and Anna Geiger was born on the 28th day of March 1898. Deaths: Elizabeth Geiger died September 5th, 1879. James Geiger died January 2nd, 1896. Jacob Theodore Geiger died Jan. 12, 1893. William Geiger died Jan. 21, 1897. Anna Geiger died August 20th, 1899. John Luther Geiger died June 18th, 1917, age 64 Arnold L. Geiger died May 15, 1966. J. Thomas Geiger died June 29, 1966. I am going to make a photocopy of these original pages in the bible and would be glad to mail them to you. If you wish to have them, then please e-mail me your address to [email protected] -Melissa
Will from another list. > >Will in Chester Co PA 1713-1825 >"To Eli McVey all that he is indebted to me, excepting 5 gallons of liker >that I desire he wood provide for the use of my funeral" > >That man plans ahead! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Do you have more info on James Geiger brothers, sisters & parents? I have a John Bee Geiger b.11-17-1837 in. Licking County, Ohio Paul [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEIGER] Jacob Geiger Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/286 Surname: GEIGER ------------------------- Melissa-- Information that you may already have. James Geiger and Elizabeth Hoyer Geiger had 4 sons: Jacob Theodore Geiger (1849-?), John Luther Geiger(your g-grandfather), Luther Geiger (no dates), and Lewis Albert Geiger (my g-grandfather)(1855-1921). Lewis Albert married Martha Jane Rettew (from whom Annie Rettew Hunter is descended and my grandfather received his middle name) and they had 3 sons, Leonard Freshcoln Geiger (1883-1950), Arthur Albert (1890-1952), and Smith Rettew (my grandfather)(1894-1965). I suppose the one interesting thing we share is our distant relationship to John Updike, from Shillington (near Reading, PA), whose mother's maiden name was Hoyer. ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ ============================== 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/
I have another Geiger and Murff connection. My gggggrandmother was Elizabeth Murff Geiger, born July 11, 1778 in Edgefield County, South Carolina and died Sept. 10, 1855 in Jasper County, Georgia. I have her father as John Murff, who was killed at the Battle of Cowpens in the Revolutionary War in 1781. Her mother was Elizabeth Kaigler Tyler. Elizabeth Murf married John Randolph Geiger on March 27, 1796 in Orangeburgh District, SC. John Randolph Geiger was born Feb. 15, 1773 in Orangeburgh District, SC. He died Jan 18, 1836 in Effingham County, GA. John Randolph was a son of Herman Geiger, Jr. (1738-1790) and Lavinia Kaigler. John Randolph Geiger and Elizabeth Murff had six children that I know about: Harmon Horlbeck Geiger, Sylvia Geiger, John Jacob Geiger, Mary Margulia Geiger, Washington Whitfield Geiger, and Salome Geiger. They mostly lived in and around Jasper County and Newton County in Georgia. Washington Whitfield Geiger moved to Florida. Skip Kitchens
Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/286 Surname: GEIGER ------------------------- Melissa-- Information that you may already have. James Geiger and Elizabeth Hoyer Geiger had 4 sons: Jacob Theodore Geiger (1849-?), John Luther Geiger(your g-grandfather), Luther Geiger (no dates), and Lewis Albert Geiger (my g-grandfather)(1855-1921). Lewis Albert married Martha Jane Rettew (from whom Annie Rettew Hunter is descended and my grandfather received his middle name) and they had 3 sons, Leonard Freshcoln Geiger (1883-1950), Arthur Albert (1890-1952), and Smith Rettew (my grandfather)(1894-1965). I suppose the one interesting thing we share is our distant relationship to John Updike, from Shillington (near Reading, PA), whose mother's maiden name was Hoyer.
A John Conrad Geiger supposedly married a Barbara Murff in about 1762. He was a son of Herman and Elizabeth Habluetzel Geiger. Another son, also named John, married an Ann or Emily Murff in about 1767. This union produced a daughter, Emily Geiger, who married Llewellyn Threewits. Emily Geiger was supposedly a Revolutionary War heroine. Other sources claim that Herman Geiger was married to a Margaretha Gartman rather than Elizabeth. I'm not at all certain about any of this, so if anyone out there has better information, I'd like to see it. Warren
Dear Jan, I understand that the Geigers married into the Murff family. I can't remember just how, but I can look it up. Sorry, I don't have any SC deeds. Nancy Geiger Ford
Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/284 Surname: Geiger ------------------------- Dear Dick, I am also descended from a James Geiger (2/7/1825 - 1/2/1896)who married Elizabeth Hoyer on 1/9/1849. She was born 11/13/1819 and died 9/5/1879. I am descended from their child John Luther Geiger(1/12/1853 - 6/18/1917) and his child John Thomas Geiger (1/20/1894 - 6/29/1966) and his son, my father, Richard Thomas Geiger (12/6/1928 - 7/19/1999). You can imagine my surprise at hearing a message from Dick Geiger on this message board. My father enjoyed working with the family tree. He was born in Reading, PA and died in Lancaster, PA. He also visited Geigertown and I have also been to that town. I would welcome any information that you may have on our family tree. If you would like more information then please e-mail me. Melissa (Geiger) Dalbey
My GEIGER line come from FREDERICK JACOB GEIGER b.1801 in Enkenbach Germany. He marr. Dorothea SCHRAMM 1831 in Aisenborn. Is anyone connected to this line? LORRI [email protected] searching GEIGER-SMITH -GEARIN
Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/281 Surname: GEIGER ------------------------- Erin-- Lewis Albert Geiger (1855-1921) married Martha Jane Rettew (1858-1914) and they had 3 sons: Leonard Freshcoln Geiger (1883-1950)(your g-grandfather), Arthur Albert Geiger(1890-1952), and Smith Rettew Geiger (1894-1965)(my grandfather). Leonard married Angeline Margaret Hart (daughter of Mr, and Mrs. Thomas Hart) on October 11, 1911. I remember meeting Sandy (your mother?) at Smith's funeral in 1965. Let me know if I can help you further. Dick Geiger
Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/279 Surname: GEIGER, SHEELER, SANDS ------------------------- Melissa-- Joan's information is correct; Paul Geiger may have also gone by the name John Paul Geiger, Jr. I'm directly descended from James Geiger and willing to share any additional information that I may have. Dick Geiger
Dear Dawn: I have taken liberty to forward your message to Kim Powers of Greenville, MS...<[email protected]> Kim is related to Martha Dikes(Dykes) wife of Benjamin Dikes (Dykes). She is buried in the woods in an abandoned Cemetery off Highway 49 just south of Collins in Covington County...Martha is the mother-in- law of Zachariah Gieger and his parents are also buried in that Cemetery <ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ms/covington/cemeteries/gieger.txt> Zachariah and his wife, the former Eleanor Jane Dykes (Dikes) are buried in Bethel Methodist Cemetery in Covington County...along with most of their children... I am sure that Kim would be most glad to hear from you... I also re-posted this message to the Geiger-List on Rootsweb. Maybe we can get your answer. >From: Dawn Dykes Petz <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MSCOVING-L] DYKES >Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:42:59 -0800 >Received: from [63.92.80.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC4499F20088D820F3D43F5C507B12F10; Fri Feb 02 16:21:07 2001 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f130KUx14124;Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:20:30 -0800 >From [email protected] Fri Feb 02 16:21:15 2001 >Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:20:30 -0800 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Feb 2 16:20:27 2001 >Message-Id: <[email protected]> >X-Authentication-Warning: cgi.rootsweb.com: nobody set sender to >[email protected] using -f >Old-To: [email protected] >Sender: [email protected] >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/443 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >Posted on: Covington Co. Ms Queries Forum >Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Covington/926 > >Surname: DYKES >------------------------- > >Am trying to locate William B. Dykes,b.abt 1840 in Covington Co.,Ms.His >parents were James and Mary Ann(Polly)Rutland Dykes.Mary Ann's parents >were Asa and Catherine Pendaris Rutland,but I don't know who James'were.I >would like to know who William married,any children and b&d dates for >all.Thanks,Dawn > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Gives a whole new meaning to fiddling around ? Désirée
In a message dated 2/3/01 3:56:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Salü, I cannot help you in your research but you may know that the word > "Fiedler" is your "fiddler" = someone who plays a fiddle. Well, the word > "Geiger" is the same, "fiddler". Roland- That always fascinated me too--the fact that a Fiedler married a Geiger. Joan
In einer eMail vom 03.02.01 02:54:58 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << FIEDLER >> Salü, I cannot help you in your research but you may know that the word "Fiedler" is your "fiddler" = someone who plays a fiddle. Well, the word "Geiger" is the same, "fiddler". Also "Fiedler" is an older word and out of use here in German. You may find it in some songs or poems and it has a special touch; a Fiedler is more a self-teached fiddler while a Geiger is a fiddler who learned his job. If you mention one of the members of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra a Fiedler he may get mad about that. :-) But the word means the same. Roland Geiger, St. Wendel, Germany
I descend from Johann Adam GEIGER (KIGER) and Maria Margaretha FIEDLER through their daughter Mary Elizabeth who was born on 13 July 1765 in what is now Lancaster, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Somewhere there is a baptismal record attesting to that, but I have not seen it. She married John SPIES (SPEAS) about 1787 in what was then (now in Forsyth County) Stokes County, North Carolina. Mary Elizabeth had a brother named Johan Adam, born about 1767, and, until now, I had nothing more on him. 1736 is the date of birth on Johann Adam GEIGER that I happen to have, without parents being listed. I have him dying in Rural Hall, Stokes County, North Carolina in 1827. Maria Margaretha FIEDLER was born on 10 December 1747, no place noted, and died also in Rural Hall about 1819. This is all that I have, y'all. Miss Désirée de Nantes <[email protected]>
Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Bible Records Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBibl/44 Surname: GEIGER ------------------------- Please note change in my address, as of 1 Feb 2001. Thanks, Anne