Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerObits/10072 Surname: ------------------------- Mr. Troy Cecil GEIGER, 60, of Folkston, Georgia died Thursday, March 15, 2001. Survivors include: his wife, Goldie Geiger, Folkston, GA; son, Billy Geiger, Folkston, GA; daughter, Mickey (Brian) Thompson, St. George, GA; three grandchildren, Regan Geiger,Amber Thompson, Andrew Marshall; two brothers, Bert Geiger,Jr., Hilliard, Troy Geiger, Folkston, GA; sister, Betty Bannister, Atlanta, GA. Predeceased by daughter Annette Marshall and granddaughter Jessica Thompson. Visitation will be Saturaday, March 17, 2001 from 6 p.m. - 9p.m. at Shepard Funeral Home in Folkston, GA. Graveside services will be Sunday, March 18, 2001 at 4 p.m. at Saradis Cemetery. Arrangements are under the direction of Shepard Funeral Home in Folkston, GA.

Anne If I come across the names I will gladly let you know. I have just started with this section of the family. Irja

Sorry that you are leaving but you cannot get off like this...Either you have to follow the instructions in your Welcome message (the one you got when you subscribed) or e-mail Joan direct<[email protected]> and ask her to take you off... >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] Geiger >Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:03:42 EST >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.32] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC7E5278006CD82197DF3F5C50200CAF0; Sun Mar 18 11:07:37 2001 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f2IJ3n314422;Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:03:49 -0700 >From [email protected] Sun Mar 18 11:08:21 2001 >Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:03:49 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sun Mar 18 12:03:49 2001 >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Old-To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10501 >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/129 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >As I have been unable to connect my Nathan Kiger line that came from >Germany >just prior to 1857, to any of the Geiger line, please unsub me. >I do wish to thank everyone that has helped me the last couple of years and >maybe someday I can rejoin this list and provide some help to all of you. >I >am not giving up, >just redirecting the search. >Thanks again, >Rosann Settles > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

My husband has done a lot of research on his German and Northern Alsace surnames of NEESE [NEHS, etc.], PENCE, HARPINE [HERBEIN], and ZIRKLE in southern Shenandoah Co. and Rockingham Co., VA, in the Shenandoah Valley. He says they are in other nearby counties, too. I have often noted the name of GEIGER there, also. Don't recall if I saw KYGER spelling. While looking, if you happen to bump into the parents of a Rebecca PENCE [1802, VA - 1873, OH] who married Michael NEESE [1794, VA - 1873, OH], please let us know. He's been looking for them for years!! Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Irja Ruffner Coles <[email protected]> > Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/10282 > > Surname: Geiger, Stober, Kyger, Harshman, Pence, Carickhoff, Haney > ------------------------- > > Christian Geiger m. Barbara ?? > Son Wilhelm Geiger m.Eva Barbara Stober > son Christian Kyger m.Margaret??? > son Johannes Kyger m. Elizabeth Harshman > son Christian Kyger m. Elizabeth Pence > dau. Virginia Rebecca m. James Henry Carickhoff > dau. Viola Virginia m. William Thomas Haney > Does anyone have info on these families? > Germany to Virginia > Thank you >

This obituary was in the March 17, 2001 Jacksonville, Duval Co, FL - Times Union on-line obituaries. GEIGER - Mr. Troy Cecil Geiger, 60 , of Folkston, Georgia died Thursday, March 15, 2001. Survivors include: his wife, Goldie Geiger, Folkston, GA; son, Billy Geiger, Folkston, GA; daughter, Mickey (Brian) Thompson, St. George, GA; three grandchildren, Regan Geiger, Amber Thompson, Andrew Marshall; two brothers, Bert Geiger, Jr, Hilliard, Tony Geiger, Folkston, GA; sister, Betty Bannister, Atlanta, GA. Predeceased by daughter Annette Marshall and granddaughter Jessica Thompson. Visitation will be Saturday, March 17, 2001 from 6:00PM to 9:00 PM at Shepard Funeral Home in Folkston, GA. Graveside services will be Sunday, March 18, 2001 at 4:00 PM at Sardis Cemetery. Arrangements are under the direction of Shepard Funeral Home in Folkston, Georgia.

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/10288 Surname: KIGER, HIGGINS ------------------------- Researching Adam Kiger b.1804 in VA. Later migrated to Fairfield Co Oh and then onto Wood County Oh. with several other Kiger members. Adam was married to Margaret Higgins of Canada and they had Adam Jr, Alvah Paul, Eliza, Elizabeth, John, Lydia, Mary J., Sarah A., George W. ( my gr gr grandfather) and Henry. Adam is buried near Josiah Kiger who is son of Wm Kiger Christianna Waldike who was son of George W Kiger b 1741. any and all info on this Kiger line would be appreciated.

As I have been unable to connect my Nathan Kiger line that came from Germany just prior to 1857, to any of the Geiger line, please unsub me. I do wish to thank everyone that has helped me the last couple of years and maybe someday I can rejoin this list and provide some help to all of you. I am not giving up, just redirecting the search. Thanks again, Rosann Settles

In einer eMail vom 18.03.01 03:33:13 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << As soon as you tell us what the document really says, it should be fairly easy to find the village (in Germany, I assume) and the families. >> Well, the parish was Treffelhausen, the diocese is Geislingen. I located this town on my German-zip-code list: 89558 Böhmenkirch-Treffelhausen Just write a letter to the local parish = Pfarramt. good luck. Roland

Anne - I am not one to make disparaging remarks about those that cannot defend themselves, namely those that are dead, HOWEVER, I tend to agree with you that they hurried the monument, and did not get their facts straight...OR they used data from folks who did not record their sources. >From: "rconnell" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GEIGER] followup: GALLMAN web site >Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:44:57 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.32] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC7C55750046400431CF3F5C502011730; Fri Mar 16 22:55:49 2001 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f2H6jif04401;Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:45:44 -0700 >From [email protected] Fri Mar 16 22:55:49 2001 >Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:45:44 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Mar 16 23:45:44 2001 >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Old-To: "GEIGER-L" <[email protected]> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/106 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >About that letter from Jacob GALLMAN where he says his son Heiri has a wife >from the Rhein valley: > >Could Heiri be a pet name (maybe even misspelled) for Heinrich - or Henry - >and could he be the Capt. Henry GALLMAN (b. 1709) that Elizabeth GEIGER, >daughter of Herman, married? Diepoldsau was in a loop of the Rhein (Rhine) >River which has been cut across (I think in the late 1800's), leaving D'sau >on the other side of a very handsome bridge. > >I'm beginning to think Herman's descendants didn't know an awful lot about >each other when they put up that monument. > >Anne C. > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEIGER-L/ > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Anne - I am not one to make disparaging remarks about those that cannot defend themselves, namely those that are dead, HOWEVER, I tend to agree with you that they hurried the monument, and did not get their facts straight...OR they used data from folks who did not record their sources. >From: "rconnell" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GEIGER] followup: GALLMAN web site >Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:44:57 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.32] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC7C55750046400431CF3F5C502011730; Fri Mar 16 22:55:49 2001 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f2H6jif04401;Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:45:44 -0700 >From [email protected] Fri Mar 16 22:55:49 2001 >Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:45:44 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Mar 16 23:45:44 2001 >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Old-To: "GEIGER-L" <[email protected]> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/106 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >About that letter from Jacob GALLMAN where he says his son Heiri has a wife >from the Rhein valley: > >Could Heiri be a pet name (maybe even misspelled) for Heinrich - or Henry - >and could he be the Capt. Henry GALLMAN (b. 1709) that Elizabeth GEIGER, >daughter of Herman, married? Diepoldsau was in a loop of the Rhein (Rhine) >River which has been cut across (I think in the late 1800's), leaving D'sau >on the other side of a very handsome bridge. > >I'm beginning to think Herman's descendants didn't know an awful lot about >each other when they put up that monument. > >Anne C. > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEIGER-L/ > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I can't believe I said that! Totally wrong generation! Herman's sister Elsbetha [Elizabeth b. 1709] was married to Hans Ulrich Schellig of Langmoos. He also had sisters Anna Cathrina (b. 1711), Maria Barbara (b. 1715), Wybehrt (b. 1718), and Margreta (b. 1724). Now I'm back on track. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:43 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Gallmans and Geigers > If the letter from Jacob Gallman was written in 1737, I don't believe > Elizabeth Geiger could have been his son's wife if she were born in 1739/40. > However, Warren found in some notes of his that one of Capt. Henry Gallman's > sons, Henry Jr., names his mother in his will as Margaret Geiger, now married > to Jacob Faust. This will is dated 1776. > > Another Gallman website: > http://www.rongallman.gallman.com/genmain.htm > lists Heiri as the 10th child of Jacob Gallman, and Capt. Henry (Heinrich) as > 6th. It also listed a Hans Heinrich as 5th. However, if it is true that > Margaret Geiger was the wife (first wife?) of Henry Gallman and he turns out > to be "Heini", I wonder which Geiger daughter became the wife of Heiri? > > Warren is planning on finding out if the SC archives has a copy of Henry > Gallman Jr.'s will so we can know for sure about Margaret Geiger. > > Jan Melton > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I will be interested to see if that word really was achts for eight - it looked really strange to me. Another look tells me that November was spelled quite differently, not like I had it. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] GEIGER Document - 1841 In einer eMail vom 17.03.01 19:58:29 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << Ein Und Viersig [One and Forty - 1841] >> that's the way we count in Germany - you say forty-one = vierzig-eins. We say ein und vierzig = one and forty. but we share the eighteenhundred = achtzehnhundert. Also in non-recent time they wrote eins acht hundert (ein eight hundred). Sometimes you may read 5. 9bris - that is 5. Novembris = 5th of November leading me to think about our months' names. That goes back to the time when the year ended in March and started in April or something like that. Roland

Marty, you're very welcome. I enjoyed the challenge. BTW, that picture you scanned is beautiful! The duplicate witness name is likely the person the child was named for. In my SWT GEIGER records, I see a lot of those. Like Godparents, the witnesses were usually relatives or very close friends (and I think there is a better name than witness, but can't think what it is). You have a lot of good clues there - as soon as Roland tells us what those names really are! I'm not at all sure about "Vitus". The early German script held a lot of surprises. We'll see. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marty Lee <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: [GEIGER] Geiger Document - 1841 > Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/10286 > > Surname: Geiger, Lee, Vessermaier > ------------------------- > > Wow! Thanks Anne!!! > > insofar as the witnesses go... the one witness name is the same as the > christening/birth name... but it stated his parents above... wonder how > that can be? The maria V is understandable... possibly a sister or mother > to Agatha. > > Is Vitus a valid german given name, do you know? > > Thank you so much! > > marty > >

Roland, thank you so much. I was hoping someone who knew the language would come forward and either verify or correct what I came up with. Marty has already scanned the picture at http://24.4.109.66/gene/gene.htm . It's very large, so I tried to print it out, but it kept crashing - so I just scrolled back and forth. As soon as you tell us what the document really says, it should be fairly easy to find the village (in Germany, I assume) and the families. A friend of mine started his researching by going to the Mormon Family History Center and looking at a list of German church records. He ordered the film for a couple of villages his ancestors had come from and that one film gave him all of them for several generations back! Maybe Marty will be that lucky! Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] GEIGER Document - 1841 In einer eMail vom 17.03.01 19:58:29 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << Geburts und Tauf Zeugnis [Birth and Christening Certifcate]; Im Jahre Ein Tausend [In Year One Thousand] next word should be Acht [Eight] but doesn't look right .... Hundert [Hundred] Ein Und Viersig [One and Forty - 1841] am Drei Und Zwanzig November [on Three and Twenty November]; ist [is]; in [in]; Geboren [born]; und [and]; am Selben Tage Nach Katholischem Ritus [on same day according to Catholic Rite (singular)]; Getauft [christened]; Eltern [parents]; Taufzeugen [christening witnesses]. The geb. after Agatha means Geburts or Geboren [born]; die Richtigkeit Dieses Auszugs ____ [the correctness of this extract ____]; Kath. ___ Pfarramt [Cath. ___ Parish Office]. Boy, that wore me out - I hope I came close! Anne C. of the FL GEIGERS >> Uhm, why don't you scan the document and send it jpeg to me. I am German and can read and translate it. Roland Geiger, St. Wendel, Germany

If the letter from Jacob Gallman was written in 1737, I don't believe Elizabeth Geiger could have been his son's wife if she were born in 1739/40. However, Warren found in some notes of his that one of Capt. Henry Gallman's sons, Henry Jr., names his mother in his will as Margaret Geiger, now married to Jacob Faust. This will is dated 1776. Another Gallman website: http://www.rongallman.gallman.com/genmain.htm lists Heiri as the 10th child of Jacob Gallman, and Capt. Henry (Heinrich) as 6th. It also listed a Hans Heinrich as 5th. However, if it is true that Margaret Geiger was the wife (first wife?) of Henry Gallman and he turns out to be "Heini", I wonder which Geiger daughter became the wife of Heiri? Warren is planning on finding out if the SC archives has a copy of Henry Gallman Jr.'s will so we can know for sure about Margaret Geiger. Jan Melton

In a message dated 3/17/01 3:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Sometimes you may read 5. 9bris - that is 5. Novembris = 5th of November > leading me to think about our months' names. That goes back to the time when > > the year ended in March and started in April or something like that. Roland- This is important. Thanks for mentioning it as it is often misinterpreted. In the frequently-quoted book Pennsylvania German Pioneers by Strassburger and Hinke of ship arrival records for Philadelphia between 1727-1808 you will see 8ber for October and 9bris for November and you will often see researchers interpreting the dates incorrectly and occasionally jumping to incorrect conclusions as a result. Joan

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/10286 Surname: Geiger, Lee, Vessermaier ------------------------- Wow! Thanks Anne!!! insofar as the witnesses go... the one witness name is the same as the christening/birth name... but it stated his parents above... wonder how that can be? The maria V is understandable... possibly a sister or mother to Agatha. Is Vitus a valid german given name, do you know? Thank you so much! marty

In einer eMail vom 17.03.01 19:58:29 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << Ein Und Viersig [One and Forty - 1841] >> that's the way we count in Germany - you say forty-one = vierzig-eins. We say ein und vierzig = one and forty. but we share the eighteenhundred = achtzehnhundert. Also in non-recent time they wrote eins acht hundert (ein eight hundred). Sometimes you may read 5. 9bris - that is 5. Novembris = 5th of November leading me to think about our months' names. That goes back to the time when the year ended in March and started in April or something like that. Roland

In einer eMail vom 17.03.01 19:58:29 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << The geb. after Agatha means Geburts or Geboren [born] >> that is your "nee" - meaning it was her maiden name. Roland

In einer eMail vom 17.03.01 19:58:29 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [email protected]: << Geburts und Tauf Zeugnis [Birth and Christening Certifcate]; Im Jahre Ein Tausend [In Year One Thousand] next word should be Acht [Eight] but doesn't look right .... Hundert [Hundred] Ein Und Viersig [One and Forty - 1841] am Drei Und Zwanzig November [on Three and Twenty November]; ist [is]; in [in]; Geboren [born]; und [and]; am Selben Tage Nach Katholischem Ritus [on same day according to Catholic Rite (singular)]; Getauft [christened]; Eltern [parents]; Taufzeugen [christening witnesses]. The geb. after Agatha means Geburts or Geboren [born]; die Richtigkeit Dieses Auszugs ____ [the correctness of this extract ____]; Kath. ___ Pfarramt [Cath. ___ Parish Office]. Boy, that wore me out - I hope I came close! Anne C. of the FL GEIGERS >> Uhm, why don't you scan the document and send it jpeg to me. I am German and can read and translate it. Roland Geiger, St. Wendel, Germany