Possibly of interest to some Geiger listers is the death of Dr. Francis Jones Smiley in Chattanooga, TN on 5/27/2001. He was the son of Annie Louise Baggs Smiley Ramsey and Reamer Edward Smiley, Sr. of Savannah, GA. His grandmother was Sarah Melissa Geiger Baggs, daughter of Winfield Wickliff Geiger of Bryan County, GA (Groveland and Pembroke). Dr. Smiley was an obstetrician and gynecologist in the Chattanooga area for many years. he received his bachelor's degree in chemistry and master's degree in physiology from the University of Georgia, the latter in 1952. He received his medical degree from the Medical College of GA in 1956. His internship and residency were served at the University of Tennessee John Gaston Hospital in Memphis, TN. Dr. Smiley is survived by his wife, Monica, and daughters, Judy Smiley, Tessa McClelland, and Laura Caron. Funeral services were held on 5/28/01 in Chattanooga, and burial will be in Bonaventure Cemetery in Savannah, GA. Nancy Geiger Ford

Hi, Mary Alice, It's been awhile .... welcome back! Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Alice Geary <[email protected]> > Hi everyone, > > Hope you all are having a great Memorial Day. > > Just wanted to let everyone know that my address has changed to > [email protected] > so please delete my juno address and replace it with this one. > Thank you, > Love & Hugs > Mary Alice

sorry no connection here -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GEIGER] Henry Kiger Hi folks, I need some help, and IM not very good with typing & writing letters, in school I study cars & girls. In 1850 census of Forsyth Co... NC. I have a Kiger family of three women, Elizabeth Kiger about 72 yrs. old, Charlotte about 28 yrs. Old, was Elizabeth a Doss, and married Henry Kiger in PA. and also is this Charlotte Kiger that Married Wiley Kiger, in Forsyth Co... NC. she would have been a lot older than Wiley, help if you can. thanks Kenneth Rominger [email protected] ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi everyone, Hope you all are having a great Memorial Day. Just wanted to let everyone know that my address has changed to [email protected] so please delete my juno address and replace it with this one. Thank you, Love & Hugs Mary Alice

Hi folks, I need some help, and IM not very good with typing & writing letters, in school I study cars & girls. In 1850 census of Forsyth Co... NC. I have a Kiger family of three women, Elizabeth Kiger about 72 yrs. old, Charlotte about 28 yrs. Old, was Elizabeth a Doss, and married Henry Kiger in PA. and also is this Charlotte Kiger that Married Wiley Kiger, in Forsyth Co... NC. she would have been a lot older than Wiley, help if you can. thanks Kenneth Rominger [email protected]

Dear Joy; I am the one who forwarded all those messsages to you in response to your query with Joan about Herman's Sister and Brother-in-law...The Lutheran Pastor's Journal documents that Herman wrote and offered to pay their passage, however, we never knew if it was accepted...Seems now, that it may have been, or at least they got here by some means... I know that becasue of the "ethnic cleansing" (Oh, they didn't call it that, but it was the same, anyway) where the Bishops were clearing out all the protestants and siezing their property, the ones who stayed were very poor...also, those caught leaving were stripped of most of their assets...I think Hans Jacob, Abraham, and Herman fled with their families, just in time...or they would have lost it, too. Anyway, it is good that you have joined our List and we hope to be able to share and glean from each other's wealth of Data...WELCOME!!! I am a Texan, resident of the DFW metroplex, but presently on assignment in the Seattle area...so much of what I have comes from my memory...My files are in Texas...and if I find that I told you something incorrect, I will correct it... Gerry >From: "Joy Cooper" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GEIGER] seeking ancestors relatives og Elizabeth Habulzel >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:05:19 -0600 > >Hello, I am an ancestor of Elizabeth Habulzel, if she is the sister of >Johann Michael Habulzel who came to Pa. in 17627, and later in 1764 on the >ship "Chance", I have been reading the messages on the Geigers that has >been sent by Gerry, Jan, Patsy, and Anne. The times coiside with some of my > information. I am a ggggranddaughter of Johann M. Habulzel, now spelled >Hoblitt or Hoblit, it has been changed 8 times down the line. I live in >northern Wyo.I have most of the history on his lineage down; but; just >recently found that his relatives came on a ship with him also, Gallman,Tom >Haas, Geoge Haas,maybe Lawrence. I would be elated to find new relatives, >we didn"t known about until now, I love genealogy, it is so interesting. We >are also related to the Ky. Bennetts. I check my e-mail ever afternoon, I >would love to hear from anyone connected to theGeigers,Gallmans, Smiths, >Lawrences. I"m sure we are related. Have a great Memorial Day. Sincerely >Anita Joy Hobllit, Cooper. > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list send an e-mail to: >[email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] >(digest mode) and put only one word--either SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the >subject and the body of the message. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Welcome to the group, Joy. The name as we know it is HABLÜZEL, pronounced Hahb-luht-zle or Hahb-lert-zle, perhaps. It's a "t-z" sound in the middle and that "t" could indicate how your branch became "Hob-litt" ... which is a totally new name to me! The only HABLÜZEL I have in my data base is Elizabeth, wife of Herman GYGER - who was the son of Gov. Hans Jacob GYGER and Margaret FEHR of Canton St. Gallen, SWT. The name was changed to GEIGER when they came over to SC in 1737. My notes on Elizabeth: "Called Lisabet in Swiss marriage record (Feb. 26, 1734), but known as Elizabeth in America. The Andrea Files say her family came from Trüllikon, Canton Zurich, Switzerland, but didn't name her parents. The Lexicon der Schweitz says the Hablüzel family was prominent in Trüllikon as early as 1554. "An article in the State Newspaper, 13 April 1958, about the Herman Geiger Memorial Stone, gives her birthdate as 25 Dec 1711. It lists only two children: Catherina, born 1734, and Hans Conrad, born 1736. Says data came from Zurich, Switzerland, State Archives. If correct, it could indicate that only their first two children were born in Switzerland. Catherina is not listed on the Memorial stone. Nothing further on her." Sorry I can't help more. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Cooper <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: [GEIGER] seeking ancestors relatives og Elizabeth Habulzel > Hello, I am an ancestor of Elizabeth Habulzel, if she is the sister of Johann Michael Habulzel who came to Pa. in 17627, and later in 1764 on the ship "Chance", I have been reading the messages on the Geigers that has been sent by Gerry, Jan, Patsy, and Anne. The times coiside with some of my information. I am a ggggranddaughter of Johann M. Habulzel, now spelled Hoblitt or Hoblit, it has been changed 8 times down the line. I live in northern Wyo.I have most of the history on his lineage down; but; just recently found that his relatives came on a ship with him also, Gallman,Tom Haas, Geoge Haas,maybe Lawrence. I would be elated to find new relatives, we didn"t known about until now, I love genealogy, it is so interesting. We are also related to the Ky. Bennetts. I check my e-mail ever afternoon, I would love to hear from anyone connected to theGeigers,Gallmans, Smiths, Lawrences. I"m sure we are related. Have a great Memorial Day. Sincerely Anita Joy Hobllit, Cooper. >

Hello, I am an ancestor of Elizabeth Habulzel, if she is the sister of Johann Michael Habulzel who came to Pa. in 17627, and later in 1764 on the ship "Chance", I have been reading the messages on the Geigers that has been sent by Gerry, Jan, Patsy, and Anne. The times coiside with some of my information. I am a ggggranddaughter of Johann M. Habulzel, now spelled Hoblitt or Hoblit, it has been changed 8 times down the line. I live in northern Wyo.I have most of the history on his lineage down; but; just recently found that his relatives came on a ship with him also, Gallman,Tom Haas, Geoge Haas,maybe Lawrence. I would be elated to find new relatives, we didn"t known about until now, I love genealogy, it is so interesting. We are also related to the Ky. Bennetts. I check my e-mail ever afternoon, I would love to hear from anyone connected to theGeigers,Gallmans, Smiths, Lawrences. I"m sure we are related. Have a great Memorial Day. Sincerely Anita Joy Hobllit, Cooper.

Sudella Geiger COLUMBIA (--) Services for Sudella "Sue" Geiger, 93, will be held at 2 p.m. Thursday in the Chapel of Thompson Funeral Home of Lexington, conducted by the Rev. Larry J. Davis and the Rev. Bill Robertson with burial in Elmwood Cemetery and Gardens. Memorials may be made to Earlewood Baptist Church, 2930 River Drive, Columbia SC 29201. Visitation will be from 1 to 2 p.m. Thursday at the funeral home. Mrs. Geiger, widow of Sam C. Geiger, died Tuesday, May 15, 2001. Born in Cayce, she was the daughter of the late George Washington and Nila Adams Shumpert. A local lifetime resident, she was a member of Earlewood Baptist Church and the Daffodil Garden Club. She loved her beach cottage at Folly Beach and spent most of her summers there. Surviving are her daughter, Elsie A. Draffin of Lexington; son, Robert B. Ailes of Chapin; grandchildren, Robert B. Ailes Jr., Thomas G. Ailes, Michael C. Draffin, Gary D. Draffin, James E. Draffin, Martha Sue Hinson, Janice Faye Whitehead, Barbara Murray; and 13 great grandchildren. Thurs. May 17, 2001 "The State" Columbia, SC *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord", and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

Is this Robinsons Ferry address still correct? ...and is the "treborq" e-address good for backup??? >From: "Beverly Burton" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GEIGER] John A. Martin, Bulloch County, GA >Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:46:34 -0500 > >HI, everyone! I'm back and I have a new address and email. Any new >research? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

In a message dated 5/20/01 9:27:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Dear Margie and Gerry, > I have been wondering where you are, Margie. I haven't seen you on the > list lately. Gerry, your theory sounds reasonable (about the men acting > for the females regarding property). My question is: was John A. Martin's > wife named Elizabeth Donnam or is this Elizabeth Donnam the wife of another > Martin? Margie, you might have done some research on this. I would love > for the Geiger descendants to meet at Ebenezer again in 2001, but Jim and I > may be in France at that time. Margie, I did not receive a copy of the > article written by your sister on the Geiger descendants' visit to the > Salzburger meeting. I would love to have a copy if you have one. > Nancy Geiger Ford I was kind of hoping I could have a copy also to print in the newsletter I do--if that would be okay. Joan

Hi, Bev, welcome back. There have been too many new developments to remember them all. Maybe you'd best scan the archives. That DONNOM/MARTIN connection still seems to be debatable ... like Mercy's last name <g>. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Burton <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [GEIGER] John A. Martin, Bulloch County, GA > HI, everyone! I'm back and I have a new address and email. Any new > research? > > BTW,Nancy, Elizabeth Donnom was not our married to our John Martin. > > Regards to all, > Beverly Burton > 2314 Robinsons Ferry > Sugar Land, TX 77479 > 281-494-0828 >

Margie, I didn't get one either. Anne C. ----- Original Message ----- Margie, I did not receive a copy of the > article written by your sister on the Geiger descendants' visit to the > Salzburger meeting. I would love to have a copy if you have one. > Nancy Geiger Ford >

Dear Margie and Gerry, I have been wondering where you are, Margie. I haven't seen you on the list lately. Gerry, your theory sounds reasonable (about the men acting for the females regarding property). My question is: was John A. Martin's wife named Elizabeth Donnam or is this Elizabeth Donnam the wife of another Martin? Margie, you might have done some research on this. I would love for the Geiger descendants to meet at Ebenezer again in 2001, but Jim and I may be in France at that time. Margie, I did not receive a copy of the article written by your sister on the Geiger descendants' visit to the Salzburger meeting. I would love to have a copy if you have one. Nancy Geiger Ford

HI, everyone! I'm back and I have a new address and email. Any new research? BTW,Nancy, Elizabeth Donnom was not our married to our John Martin. Regards to all, Beverly Burton 2314 Robinsons Ferry Sugar Land, TX 77479 281-494-0828 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Nancy Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: [GEIGER] John A. Martin, Bulloch County, GA > Dear Margie and Gerry, > I have been wondering where you are, Margie. I haven't seen you on the > list lately. Gerry, your theory sounds reasonable (about the men acting > for the females regarding property). My question is: was John A. Martin's > wife named Elizabeth Donnam or is this Elizabeth Donnam the wife of another > Martin? Margie, you might have done some research on this. I would love > for the Geiger descendants to meet at Ebenezer again in 2001, but Jim and I > may be in France at that time. Margie, I did not receive a copy of the > article written by your sister on the Geiger descendants' visit to the > Salzburger meeting. I would love to have a copy if you have one. > Nancy Geiger Ford > > > ==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== > Visit the GEIGER mailing list archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEIGER-L/ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Bible Records Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/GeigerBibl/10044 Surname: Wells ------------------------- I have found that I am related to this person. Anyone who is remotely related please respond. Bob Wells

Land sold in Jasper Co, GA on 1/27/1810 (p 146 Jasper County, Georgia Deed Books 1 & 2 1807-1810) by James Martain, Bryan Co; Abraham Geiger, Bulloch Co; Felia (Felix) Geiger, Bulloch Co; Elijah Martain, Bulloch Co; and Stephen Reigs, Bulloch Co to John Henderick, Wilkes Co total of 202.5 ac in Land Lot 58, 12th District was originally granted to John A. Martin, Denmarks Dist, Bulloch Co, GA in 1807 Georgia Land Lottery (p 122, The Second or 1807 Land Lottery of Georgia, GA Gen Reprints, Silas Emmett Lucas, Vidalia GA, 1968) Land lot 58, District 12, B Co. (It may have been explained before but I missed the explanation.) Is this John A Martain, the father of James or the brother or someone else? Has anyone found the churches where these Martins preached? Still looking! Margie

At this moment, it is not clear if John A. Martin is our grandfather or gr-Uncle...I believe that he was our Grandfather, who was married to Elizabeth Donnom(Dunnam/Dunham) and that the "A." initial was entered to distinguish him from Rev. John Nicholas Martin, the noted Lutheran minister of that era... My reasoning is that, chauvinistic as it may seem, Wives' property rights were vested in their Husbands, and since Abraham's wife Mercy, and Felix's wife Mary were believed to be daughters of our Rev. John Martin, and James was their brother, mentioning of Abraham, Felix, and Stephen Reigs(Riggs) as co-owners of this lot would seem to bear out the fact that they were acting in their wives behalf... I think this Deed is "our guys..." >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GEIGER] John A Martin, Bulloch Co, GA >Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:16:56 -0700 > >Land sold in Jasper Co, GA on 1/27/1810 (p 146 Jasper County, Georgia >Deed Books 1 & 2 1807-1810) by James Martain, Bryan Co; Abraham Geiger, >Bulloch Co; Felia (Felix) Geiger, Bulloch Co; Elijah Martain, Bulloch >Co; and Stephen Reigs, Bulloch Co to John Henderick, Wilkes Co total of >202.5 ac in Land Lot 58, 12th District was originally granted to John A. >Martin, Denmarks Dist, Bulloch Co, GA in 1807 Georgia Land Lottery (p >122, The Second or 1807 Land Lottery of Georgia, GA Gen Reprints, Silas >Emmett Lucas, Vidalia GA, 1968) Land lot 58, District 12, B Co. (It may >have been explained before but I missed the explanation.) Is this John A >Martain, the father of James or the brother or someone else? Has anyone >found the churches where these Martins preached? Still looking! Margie > > >==== GEIGER Mailing List ==== >Check out our GEIGER homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geiger/ > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Posted on: Geiger/Kiger/Kyger Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Geiger/10300 Surname: ------------------------- This wouldn't the father you are looking for but you might be interested in it anyway: Notes and Queries, Third Series, Vol. II: Deaths of Revolutionary Heroes: William Geiger of Middle Paxtang Township, Dauphin County, died 14 November 1824, aged 72 years. I believe this William ties somehow (although I lack proof) to Christian Geiger who emigrated in 1737 on the Charming Nancy and who settled in Lancaster County. Joan