Bill, I tried to send you info on the Dent web sites and it bounced - on at least 4 occasions. Maybe it will get to you via the list. Jim [last URL (for Michael Lawson Dent) will word-wrap. Copy to one line before you try to paste it into your browser] http://members.aol.com/lewilde76/genmain/dent.html http://members.aol.com/lewilde76/genmain/dent/gawilkes_chart.html http://members.aol.com/lewilde76/genmain/dent/john1/john2/michl3/jos_m4/michl_l5_chrono.html