Exactly, but still the same piece of dirt no matter how they want to list it.......................huh? To me it is BRANTLEY County no matter! And in theory that is correct as that is what it is NOW. But Marty is Correct. Where Uncle Vernon's home sits today It is now Brantley Co. before that, it was Wayne Co. before that it was Pierce Co. and before that it was Charleton Co. BECAUSE, Tramping around on that same dirt lived the Johns family for generations, they NEVER moved! But one census places them in one county and then the next census places them in the other county and the next one places them in yet another of the counties..................................................... Grannie born in 1903 was b. according to her birth records in Pierce Co. Grandpaddy lived across the creek over towards where Uncle Buck and Aunt Leo and Kat live or lived, and his says Pierce Co. and he was b. 1911 At that same time Martha Jane Lee died in what was at that time called Wayne Co. so the Creek would seem to also be a dividing line also used back then??? And when Haddie married Bryant that is recorded in Charleton Co. Haddie was Grandpaddies Grandma! But they were all there in a big clump mixed in among the Lee's and the rest of the connecting names! But everyone of these places pointed out to me, are now in BRANTLEY CO. TO me putting BRANTLEY Co. into FTM is much easier than listing all the Counties, and putting the other data into the NOTES field that does not always show up and we can block or allow it works much better! Besides FTM as a mind of it's own and tells you, when your wished data can't be entered in a field given. AS LONG as we know the "rest of the story" then we should be ok as long as it is saved somewhere in our files for folks later on down the line.............................................. My bet would be Charlton, seems like most stuff was through there at that time. More so than Wayne. Heck George Johns Deed mentions Wayne, Pierce, Charleton, Camden and a lot of other Counties for his land! Did I ever send you the transcribed copy of his deed Sheila? If not I can send that too ya and you can give Margie a copy for me. She is the one who gave me a copy of the Org. in the first place! Sure wish she would get a computer and go online, now that would be fun.......................... Later, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Ok, based on what little information I have on Keziah Caroline Smith, and > the fact that they lived and are buried in the southern part of what is > now Brantley County, Bachlott area, and buried at Bachlott Cemetery, which > is located in southern Brantley County, less than 3 miles from the > Charlton County line, I would conclude that it was then Charlton County. > However, Marty says that the county dividing line (Charlton/Wayne) at that > time was right about where Uncle Vernon Johns lived, which is about a mile > (give or take) from this particular cemetery and that his (great) Granny > had to pay land taxes in Wayne County about that time. So it is really a > toss up as to Wayne or Charlton. > Sheila > > Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok Brantley County GA formed in 1920 from Charlton, Pierce, Wayne Counties > taking parts from each according to page 1 of the Handbook of Georgia > Counties compiled by Marion R. Hemperley Georgia Surveyor General Dept. > Office of Secretary of State Atlanta 1980.....................digging a > bit deeper > Wayne formed on May 11, 1803 Original County Created from land ceded by > Treaty of June 16, 1802. > Pierce was created on Dec. 18, 1857 from Ware and Appling Counties. > Ware was created Dec. 15, 1824 from Appling County > Appling Co. was created Dec. 15, 1818 from Original County created from > land > ceded by Treaties of Aug. 9, 1814 and Jan. 22, 1818. > Charleton County was created Feb 18, 1854 from Camden > Camden was created Feb. 5, 1777 from Original County created from st. > Thomas > Parish and St. Mary Parish. > > So is she died on July 22, 1885 she died in what was at that time, > Either the part of Brantley Co that was taken away from Charleton County > or > the part of Pierce that was taken to make Brantley County or the part of > Wayne that was taken to make Brantley County but the lady is found buried > in > Brantley Co. today so it is just much easier to > say....................................Brantley Co. Takes up a lot less > space also. > > I suppose we should all type it up as: > Charlton, Pierce, Wayne, Brantley County for her place of death. > However if a death cert. is lucky enought to be had, and I highly doubt > that > as they were not used back then, we could just go with what it says! > > BTW I have a copy of that little book if anyone ever needs me to check on > a > County for them.......................of course I think that most of this > is > now oline, but at times we have to know where to go online to start > with.....................................................lol > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olivia Mullis" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > > >> Richard Hughes wrote: >> The county is wrong. >> >> Olivia >> >>> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. 22 >>> July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >>> >>> They had 8 children. >>> >>> ----Original Message Follows---- >>> From: "Gail Moore" >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >>> >>> Sheila, >>> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >>> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >>> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >>> Is this who you mention here? >>> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but still >>> there. >>> Is this her? >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> >>> >>>> Barb, >>>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. 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