At the time of the creation of Brantley, my mapper shows Bachlott just above the Charlton line, about five time the distance from the Pierce county line. Another thing I noticed with the change, Pierce County lost area west of the Satilla to Ware county, the area would have included the area west of Schlatterville area to a line just east of where the current line folllowing Hwy 82 turns North to the river. If the current line from 82 to the river is extended south to the current Charlton line everything east of the line would have been Pierce prior to the creation of Brantley. This corrects some of my assumptions that a couple of Cason and Peacock families moved but only the line changed. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Ok, based on what little information I have on Keziah Caroline Smith, and the fact that they lived and are buried in > the southern part of what is now Brantley County, Bachlott area, and buried at Bachlott Cemetery, which is located in > southern Brantley County, less than 3 miles from the Charlton County line, I would conclude that it was then Charlton > County. However, Marty says that the county dividing line (Charlton/Wayne) at that time was right about where Uncle > Vernon Johns lived, which is about a mile (give or take) from this particular cemetery and that his (great) Granny had > to pay land taxes in Wayne County about that time. So it is really a toss up as to Wayne or Charlton.

Sheila, No, Olivia was just proud of herself for figuring out how to answer at the top of the messages with her new laptop. <grins> Thanks for all your help to everyone. Like Lorraine said, cousins stickin' together. The cousin who answered my question about my BYRD family the other day, we don't think our BYRDs are connected? However, he mentioned his mother's PEACOCK line. I told him I had one too. We found out that his John PEACOCK was my Lydia PEACOCK's brother, well, his John Peacock married Drucilla SULLIVAN and my Lydia Peacock married William SULLIVAN brother of his Drucilla. So, it pays to discuss all these family lines! Never know when and how they might jine up. Cousins by the dozens! Sharon Sharon, Did I miss something? I didn't see a response from Olivia with answers to this? Sheila

amen, amen shadri <[email protected]> wrote:Sheila, No, Olivia was just proud of herself for figuring out how to answer at the top of the messages with her new laptop. Thanks for all your help to everyone. Like Lorraine said, cousins stickin' together. The cousin who answered my question about my BYRD family the other day, we don't think our BYRDs are connected? However, he mentioned his mother's PEACOCK line. I told him I had one too. We found out that his John PEACOCK was my Lydia PEACOCK's brother, well, his John Peacock married Drucilla SULLIVAN and my Lydia Peacock married William SULLIVAN brother of his Drucilla. So, it pays to discuss all these family lines! Never know when and how they might jine up. Cousins by the dozens! Sharon Sharon, Did I miss something? I didn't see a response from Olivia with answers to this? Sheila ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Sheila Brantley County, GA --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Bill, Thanks, every little bit of clarity helps with this. Sheila William Fish <[email protected]> wrote: At the time of the creation of Brantley, my mapper shows Bachlott just above the Charlton line, about five time the distance from the Pierce county line. Another thing I noticed with the change, Pierce County lost area west of the Satilla to Ware county, the area would have included the area west of Schlatterville area to a line just east of where the current line folllowing Hwy 82 turns North to the river. If the current line from 82 to the river is extended south to the current Charlton line everything east of the line would have been Pierce prior to the creation of Brantley. This corrects some of my assumptions that a couple of Cason and Peacock families moved but only the line changed. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" To: Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Ok, based on what little information I have on Keziah Caroline Smith, and the fact that they lived and are buried in > the southern part of what is now Brantley County, Bachlott area, and buried at Bachlott Cemetery, which is located in > southern Brantley County, less than 3 miles from the Charlton County line, I would conclude that it was then Charlton > County. However, Marty says that the county dividing line (Charlton/Wayne) at that time was right about where Uncle > Vernon Johns lived, which is about a mile (give or take) from this particular cemetery and that his (great) Granny had > to pay land taxes in Wayne County about that time. So it is really a toss up as to Wayne or Charlton. ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Sheila Brantley County, GA --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Sharon, Did I miss something? I didn't see a response from Olivia with answers to this? Sheila shadri <[email protected]> wrote: Olivia, Like you always love to say, "Knowledge is power." hehehe Glad you figured it out. It was hard to find your answers mixed in with all the other stuff. Hey the cream rises to the top! LOL Sharon Hallauah I finally found the answer to my problem. Now I don't answer on the bottom. Olivia ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Sheila Brantley County, GA --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Gail, No problem.........FTW or FTM? which version Sheila Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: Sheila, So do I sorry about that. I just upgraded to the newest FTW program and I am getting lost in the thing! I had both of them too the whole time. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" To: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Gail & Olivia, > I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah > Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & > Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) with > eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children > listed. > Sheila > > Olivia Mullis wrote: > Richard Hughes wrote: > > The county is wrong. > > Olivia > >> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >> >> They had 8 children. >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "Gail Moore" >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >> >> Sheila, >> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >> Is this who you mention here? >> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >> still there. >> Is this her? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> >> >>> Barb, >>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. 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Ok, based on what little information I have on Keziah Caroline Smith, and the fact that they lived and are buried in the southern part of what is now Brantley County, Bachlott area, and buried at Bachlott Cemetery, which is located in southern Brantley County, less than 3 miles from the Charlton County line, I would conclude that it was then Charlton County. However, Marty says that the county dividing line (Charlton/Wayne) at that time was right about where Uncle Vernon Johns lived, which is about a mile (give or take) from this particular cemetery and that his (great) Granny had to pay land taxes in Wayne County about that time. So it is really a toss up as to Wayne or Charlton. Sheila Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: Ok Brantley County GA formed in 1920 from Charlton, Pierce, Wayne Counties taking parts from each according to page 1 of the Handbook of Georgia Counties compiled by Marion R. Hemperley Georgia Surveyor General Dept. Office of Secretary of State Atlanta 1980.....................digging a bit deeper Wayne formed on May 11, 1803 Original County Created from land ceded by Treaty of June 16, 1802. Pierce was created on Dec. 18, 1857 from Ware and Appling Counties. Ware was created Dec. 15, 1824 from Appling County Appling Co. was created Dec. 15, 1818 from Original County created from land ceded by Treaties of Aug. 9, 1814 and Jan. 22, 1818. Charleton County was created Feb 18, 1854 from Camden Camden was created Feb. 5, 1777 from Original County created from st. Thomas Parish and St. Mary Parish. So is she died on July 22, 1885 she died in what was at that time, Either the part of Brantley Co that was taken away from Charleton County or the part of Pierce that was taken to make Brantley County or the part of Wayne that was taken to make Brantley County but the lady is found buried in Brantley Co. today so it is just much easier to say....................................Brantley Co. Takes up a lot less space also. I suppose we should all type it up as: Charlton, Pierce, Wayne, Brantley County for her place of death. However if a death cert. is lucky enought to be had, and I highly doubt that as they were not used back then, we could just go with what it says! BTW I have a copy of that little book if anyone ever needs me to check on a County for them.......................of course I think that most of this is now oline, but at times we have to know where to go online to start with.....................................................lol Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" To: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Richard Hughes wrote: > The county is wrong. > > Olivia > >> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. 22 >> July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >> >> They had 8 children. >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "Gail Moore" >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >> >> Sheila, >> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >> Is this who you mention here? >> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but still >> there. >> Is this her? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> >> >>> Barb, >>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of Jeremiah >>> H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne County, GA. >>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew McClellan >>> Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. 1853, who >>> married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since you didn't >>> give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was married to both of >>> them? Just wondering. >>> Thanks >>> Sheila >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>> >>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>> ----- >>>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila >>> Brantley County, GA >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! 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Sue, No problem, the children are as follows: 1. Franklin Columbus Johns b. abt 1871 2. Jeremiah G Johns b. abt 1872 3. William Isaac Johns b. abt 1873 4. Hilliam Johns b. abt. 1874 5. Elizie Magdalene Johns b. abt 1875 6. Martha Victoria Johns b. abt 1879 7. General Kyler Johns b. March 29, 1882 married Agnes "Aggie" Todd (no dates) 8. Owen K Johns b. December 18, 1880 married (on Sept. 13, 1900 in Wayne County, GA) Sarah Frances Lee (1885-1978) I have no spouses or other information on the first six children, if you or anyone else does that would like to share, I would love to have the information for my database. Sheila Sue & Richard Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: Sheila would you mind posting the eight children for Israel and Kesiah? I have hopefully they are correct two. Owen K. and General Kyler. Thanks, Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" To: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Gail & Olivia, > I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah > Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & > Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) with > eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children > listed. > Sheila > > Olivia Mullis wrote: > Richard Hughes wrote: > > The county is wrong. > > Olivia > >> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >> >> They had 8 children. >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "Gail Moore" >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >> >> Sheila, >> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >> Is this who you mention here? >> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >> still there. >> Is this her? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> >> >>> Barb, >>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of >>> Jeremiah H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne >>> County, GA. >>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew >>> McClellan Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. >>> 1853, who married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since >>> you didn't give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was >>> married to both of them? Just wondering. >>> Thanks >>> Sheila >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>> >>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>> ----- >>>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila >>> Brantley County, GA >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! 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Good Lord Gail, I am sorry to hear about Tony. Those particular spiders are very dangerous and he is very lucky to in as good as shape as he is in considering it could have been a lot worse.......when he gets better, kick him on the leg and tell him next time go sooner (lol).........take care and maybe one day we can both get to the library maybe together. Sheila Sue & Richard Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: Glad that he is much better. I do not know what it is about men, they do not want to go to the doctor, nor ask for directions. Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Moore" To: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > Maybe one day we will both get to visit that > library.................everytime I think I may get the chance somethings > seems to happen around here. > I know one thing, I don't like or care for brown recluse Spiders at all! > Tony, my husband got bit by one about two weeks back now today! > It came up like an ant bite and that is what he thought it was. > He went on to work and came home with his entire finger swelled up, he > said nothing..........................he went to work and came home with > his entire hand swollen up the next day...................I tried to get > him to go to the doctor, he said it was only an ant and that he never felt > it bite him. I said that can't be an ant bite......................man is > hard headed I tell ya! He would not go......................he went on to > work instead. > About 2 am he calls and wakes me up asking me when my appointment was and > to wait on him he was going with me! > They ran some tests, gave him a good talking to and put him on meds and > told him it should get better over the weekend, that was on Wensday, by > Saturday we were visiting the ER, they had to lance it. > He was told he would be lucky if it had not done tissue damage! > They told him that the blood work that had been done at the doctors office > on Wensday showed it to be a spider bite................................ > The culture came back done in the ER proving a brown recluse was the > spider that had bit him! > They changed his meds and put him on two more, it is much better now thank > goodness........................he said next time he would listen to me a > bit better.........................................right!!! > > Live and learn. > > Later, > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > > >> Gail, >> I have not checked all of the old Camden County records, as it is hard >> for me to get to that library and/or that courthouse with the hours I >> work. However, I have accessed census records and can place both James >> Rowell Sr. (1810), and James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) in Camden County in (1820 >> & 1830). James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) and his brother, David Rowell in Ware >> County 1850, and both of them in Pierce County in 1860 (census). >> I will one day get to Camden County, just don't know when yet. I have >> relied on the Brantley, Charlton, and Ware County libraries and the >> records they store there a lot, as well as talking to a lot of Crews, >> Rowell, Johns and related familes. >> Thank you for any suggesting that you give me. I always appreciate it. >> Sheila >> Gail Moore wrote: >> Sheila, >> Has anyone checked the old Camden Co. Records to see if these men married >> there by chance. I have not made it there yet but the man said that they >> do >> have some very old marriages on file at the Genealogy library there. >> >> Also I found a few of them in that neck of the woods married over in Ware >> County and a handfull in Wayne Co..................................... >> >> I think it is due to the fact that the counties kept on changing so much >> for >> a long time! >> >> Just wondering, I know you have most likely check this already but just >> on >> the off chance that you have not............................. >> >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? >> >> >>> Kay, >>> Yes, this James (James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) (1810-1915) is brother to that >>> David (David Rowell, 1824-1922 NOTE: I have him listed as dying in 1922, >>> do I need to correct my record on his death?) >>> Their father was James Rowell, Sr, and grandfather was John RS Rowell, >>> but >>> no one seems to know who the wives of James Sr or John RS Rowell are. >>> Sheila >>> >>> Kay Music wrote: >>> Could someone tell me if this James that y'all have been talking about, >>> was the brother of the David, (see below) Does anyone know who the >>> parents >>> of the James mentioned were? >>> Thanks, >>> Kay >>> Descendants of David Rowell >>> >>> Generation No. 1 >>> 1. DAVID2 ROWELL (JAMES1) was born November 03, 1824 in Camden Co, GA, >>> and >>> died November 27, 1902 in Charlton Co. He married BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA >>> HEATH >>> June 09, 1889 in Charlton, Co.. She was born January 10, 1845 in Ware >>> County, and died November 03, 1931 in Charlton Co., Ga.. >>> More About DAVID ROWELL: >>> Burial: Emmaus Cemetary, Charlton Co, GA >>> More About BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA HEATH: >>> Burial: Emmaus Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Charlton Co., Ga. >>> >>> Child of DAVID ROWELL and BATHSEBA/ HEATH is: >>> i. SPENCER M.3 ROWELL, b. August 15, 1891, St George, Charlton Co, GA; >>> d. >>> September 21, 1950, St George, Charlton Co, GA.; m. KATHERINE KATIE >>> CRAWFORD, April 15, 1917, Charlton, Co.; b. November 16, 1894, St >>> George, >>> Charlton Co, GA; d. April 24, 1959, St George, Charlton Co, GA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! 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Glad that he is much better. I do not know what it is about men, they do not want to go to the doctor, nor ask for directions. Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > Maybe one day we will both get to visit that > library.................everytime I think I may get the chance somethings > seems to happen around here. > I know one thing, I don't like or care for brown recluse Spiders at all! > Tony, my husband got bit by one about two weeks back now today! > It came up like an ant bite and that is what he thought it was. > He went on to work and came home with his entire finger swelled up, he > said nothing..........................he went to work and came home with > his entire hand swollen up the next day...................I tried to get > him to go to the doctor, he said it was only an ant and that he never felt > it bite him. I said that can't be an ant bite......................man is > hard headed I tell ya! He would not go......................he went on to > work instead. > About 2 am he calls and wakes me up asking me when my appointment was and > to wait on him he was going with me! > They ran some tests, gave him a good talking to and put him on meds and > told him it should get better over the weekend, that was on Wensday, by > Saturday we were visiting the ER, they had to lance it. > He was told he would be lucky if it had not done tissue damage! > They told him that the blood work that had been done at the doctors office > on Wensday showed it to be a spider bite................................ > The culture came back done in the ER proving a brown recluse was the > spider that had bit him! > They changed his meds and put him on two more, it is much better now thank > goodness........................he said next time he would listen to me a > bit better.........................................right!!! > > Live and learn. > > Later, > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > > >> Gail, >> I have not checked all of the old Camden County records, as it is hard >> for me to get to that library and/or that courthouse with the hours I >> work. However, I have accessed census records and can place both James >> Rowell Sr. (1810), and James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) in Camden County in (1820 >> & 1830). James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) and his brother, David Rowell in Ware >> County 1850, and both of them in Pierce County in 1860 (census). >> I will one day get to Camden County, just don't know when yet. I have >> relied on the Brantley, Charlton, and Ware County libraries and the >> records they store there a lot, as well as talking to a lot of Crews, >> Rowell, Johns and related familes. >> Thank you for any suggesting that you give me. I always appreciate it. >> Sheila >> Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> Sheila, >> Has anyone checked the old Camden Co. Records to see if these men married >> there by chance. I have not made it there yet but the man said that they >> do >> have some very old marriages on file at the Genealogy library there. >> >> Also I found a few of them in that neck of the woods married over in Ware >> County and a handfull in Wayne Co..................................... >> >> I think it is due to the fact that the counties kept on changing so much >> for >> a long time! >> >> Just wondering, I know you have most likely check this already but just >> on >> the off chance that you have not............................. >> >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? >> >> >>> Kay, >>> Yes, this James (James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) (1810-1915) is brother to that >>> David (David Rowell, 1824-1922 NOTE: I have him listed as dying in 1922, >>> do I need to correct my record on his death?) >>> Their father was James Rowell, Sr, and grandfather was John RS Rowell, >>> but >>> no one seems to know who the wives of James Sr or John RS Rowell are. >>> Sheila >>> >>> Kay Music wrote: >>> Could someone tell me if this James that y'all have been talking about, >>> was the brother of the David, (see below) Does anyone know who the >>> parents >>> of the James mentioned were? >>> Thanks, >>> Kay >>> Descendants of David Rowell >>> >>> Generation No. 1 >>> 1. DAVID2 ROWELL (JAMES1) was born November 03, 1824 in Camden Co, GA, >>> and >>> died November 27, 1902 in Charlton Co. He married BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA >>> HEATH >>> June 09, 1889 in Charlton, Co.. She was born January 10, 1845 in Ware >>> County, and died November 03, 1931 in Charlton Co., Ga.. >>> More About DAVID ROWELL: >>> Burial: Emmaus Cemetary, Charlton Co, GA >>> More About BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA HEATH: >>> Burial: Emmaus Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Charlton Co., Ga. >>> >>> Child of DAVID ROWELL and BATHSEBA/ HEATH is: >>> i. SPENCER M.3 ROWELL, b. August 15, 1891, St George, Charlton Co, GA; >>> d. >>> September 21, 1950, St George, Charlton Co, GA.; m. KATHERINE KATIE >>> CRAWFORD, April 15, 1917, Charlton, Co.; b. November 16, 1894, St >>> George, >>> Charlton Co, GA; d. April 24, 1959, St George, Charlton Co, GA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! 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That is wonderful, of course you know more about computers than I do. I turn it on and off and just a few things I can do in between. Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Elizabeth ROWELL - William STARLING > Hallauah I finally found the answer to my problem. Now I don't answer on > the bottom. > > Olivia > > > shadri wrote: > >>Sheila, >> >> >> >>Thank you for taking the time to look. In Volume 5 of POWG, there is a >>David ROWELL born 1806, son of David ROWELL RS. He married (2nd wife) >>Flora CAMPBELL. In Lowndes County. They had a daughter Elizabeth born Sep >>2, 1834. It has "married UNKNOWN" beside her name. I wonder if she may be >>the one? However, it could be the Elizabeth ROWELL who was involved with >>William STARLING was a ROWELL by marriage. The name Elizabeth being so >>popular, it would be hard to know unless you found some record I suppose. >> >> >> >>Thanks again, >> >> >> >>Sharon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Sharon, >>I do not have a daughter named Elizabeth listed for this David Rowell >>(1824-1922). I have him listed as married twice 1. Jane Howard (b. 1820 >>d. ?)with nine children, one being named Tobitha Isabella Rowell. 2. >>Basheba Heath (1844-1931). I have seen that information about the name >>change of those children, but my brain won't tell me right now where it >>was. >>I also have two other siblings of David Rowell and James A. Rowell (Lt. >>CSA), they are Andrew Rowell (no other information) and Mary Elizabeth >>"Betsy" Rowell (1825-1905) who married Archibald Carroll (b. 1821). What >>is odd is that Archibald Carroll's parents were Edward (Carrell) Carroll >>and Elizabeth Rowell. I DO NOT have any information on this Elizabeth >>Rowell, dates of birth or death, parents, etc. And she may very well have >>been married before or after Edward Carroll. >>I hope this isn't confusing....but this is all I have right now. >>Sheila >> >>shadri <[email protected]> wrote: >>Does anyone know if this Elizabeth ROWELL was the daughter of David >>ROWELL? >>Or if not, do you have any further data on her? >> >>I am not a known ROWELL descendant. However, I am a STARLING descendant. >>William was my 4th great-Grandfather Thomas' brother. Thomas' son Abraham >>STARLING was my 3rd great-Grandfather >> >>Sharon Driver Wright >> >> >>Children of WILLIAM STARLING and ELIZABETH ROWELL are: >> >>viii. THOMAS6 STARLING, b. Abt. 1828, Georgia. >> >>ix. GATSY STARLING, b. Abt. 1830. >> >>x. TOBITHA STARLING, b. Abt. 1831. >> >>xi. JAMES R. STARLING, b. Abt. 1833. >> >>xii. ELLENDER STARLING, b. Abt. 1835. >> >>1841- December 8 a legal name change is documented by a legislative act >>for >>the children: Gatsy, Tobitha "Bytha", and Thomas & Ellender, to change >>their >>names to Starling from Rowell to make them the legal heirs of >>their father, William Starling of Lowndes County, Georgia. >>In "Name Changes of Georgia" There are two different years listed for this >>legal name change. First December 24, 1832, then the 1841 date above. >> >> >>==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Sheila would you mind posting the eight children for Israel and Kesiah? I have hopefully they are correct two. Owen K. and General Kyler. Thanks, Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Gail & Olivia, > I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah > Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & > Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) with > eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children > listed. > Sheila > > Olivia Mullis <[email protected]> wrote: > Richard Hughes wrote: > > The county is wrong. > > Olivia > >> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >> >> They had 8 children. >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "Gail Moore" >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >> >> Sheila, >> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >> Is this who you mention here? >> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >> still there. >> Is this her? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> >> >>> Barb, >>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of >>> Jeremiah H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne >>> County, GA. >>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew >>> McClellan Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. >>> 1853, who married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since >>> you didn't give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was >>> married to both of them? Just wondering. >>> Thanks >>> Sheila >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>> >>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>> ----- >>>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila >>> Brantley County, GA >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. >>> >>> >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > Sheila > Brantley County, GA > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

And Grannie use to say,...................."he's got more excusess than Carter's got pills'" Grannie use to make what she called a tar jacket. It was a t-shirt soaked in a brew that she made from roots and garlic and other smelly stuff and you wore it to get rid of Phenomina and you tore off a small piece of it each day until you were better! She also made a polus that you wore around your neck and it smelled bad too! Mom had to wear one to school once. Grannie told her to quit fussing and go on to school. She said that Mom had to wear it to get better so she did not make the rest of the kids sick..................Mom said no way would she ever make any of them sick because the thing smelled so bad no one would come near her to start with.....................................lol Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Neat Story > Yes, , we all got a good start in the spring., and we got orange crush in > the > brown bottle, to help it go down,, some of us lucky ones got Grover's > Chill > tonic. or Castoria, and some of us richer kids remember, Cod liver oil, > and > Carters liver pills,, . we got the mumps at our house, five kids in two > beds, > daddy came home with sardines a couple of cans, he rubbed the oil on our > mumps, > and the boys got rubbed on other parts, What a hot smelly mess., Some > memories > are the smells of our youth,,, Connie > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Ok Brantley County GA formed in 1920 from Charlton, Pierce, Wayne Counties taking parts from each according to page 1 of the Handbook of Georgia Counties compiled by Marion R. Hemperley Georgia Surveyor General Dept. Office of Secretary of State Atlanta 1980.....................digging a bit deeper Wayne formed on May 11, 1803 Original County Created from land ceded by Treaty of June 16, 1802. Pierce was created on Dec. 18, 1857 from Ware and Appling Counties. Ware was created Dec. 15, 1824 from Appling County Appling Co. was created Dec. 15, 1818 from Original County created from land ceded by Treaties of Aug. 9, 1814 and Jan. 22, 1818. Charleton County was created Feb 18, 1854 from Camden Camden was created Feb. 5, 1777 from Original County created from st. Thomas Parish and St. Mary Parish. So is she died on July 22, 1885 she died in what was at that time, Either the part of Brantley Co that was taken away from Charleton County or the part of Pierce that was taken to make Brantley County or the part of Wayne that was taken to make Brantley County but the lady is found buried in Brantley Co. today so it is just much easier to say....................................Brantley Co. Takes up a lot less space also. I suppose we should all type it up as: Charlton, Pierce, Wayne, Brantley County for her place of death. However if a death cert. is lucky enought to be had, and I highly doubt that as they were not used back then, we could just go with what it says! BTW I have a copy of that little book if anyone ever needs me to check on a County for them.......................of course I think that most of this is now oline, but at times we have to know where to go online to start with.....................................................lol Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Richard Hughes wrote: > The county is wrong. > > Olivia > >> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. 22 >> July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >> >> They had 8 children. >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >> >> Sheila, >> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >> Is this who you mention here? >> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but still >> there. >> Is this her? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> >> >>> Barb, >>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. 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Sheila, So do I sorry about that. I just upgraded to the newest FTW program and I am getting lost in the thing! I had both of them too the whole time. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Gail & Olivia, > I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah > Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & > Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) with > eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children > listed. > Sheila > > Olivia Mullis <[email protected]> wrote: > Richard Hughes wrote: > > The county is wrong. > > Olivia > >> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >> >> They had 8 children. >> >> ----Original Message Follows---- >> From: "Gail Moore" >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >> >> Sheila, >> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >> Is this who you mention here? >> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >> still there. >> Is this her? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >> >> >>> Barb, >>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of >>> Jeremiah H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne >>> County, GA. >>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew >>> McClellan Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. >>> 1853, who married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since >>> you didn't give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was >>> married to both of them? Just wondering. >>> Thanks >>> Sheila >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>> >>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>> ----- >>>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila >>> Brantley County, GA >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. >>> >>> >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > Sheila > Brantley County, GA > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Maybe one day we will both get to visit that library.................everytime I think I may get the chance somethings seems to happen around here. I know one thing, I don't like or care for brown recluse Spiders at all! Tony, my husband got bit by one about two weeks back now today! It came up like an ant bite and that is what he thought it was. He went on to work and came home with his entire finger swelled up, he said nothing..........................he went to work and came home with his entire hand swollen up the next day...................I tried to get him to go to the doctor, he said it was only an ant and that he never felt it bite him. I said that can't be an ant bite......................man is hard headed I tell ya! He would not go......................he went on to work instead. About 2 am he calls and wakes me up asking me when my appointment was and to wait on him he was going with me! They ran some tests, gave him a good talking to and put him on meds and told him it should get better over the weekend, that was on Wensday, by Saturday we were visiting the ER, they had to lance it. He was told he would be lucky if it had not done tissue damage! They told him that the blood work that had been done at the doctors office on Wensday showed it to be a spider bite................................ The culture came back done in the ER proving a brown recluse was the spider that had bit him! They changed his meds and put him on two more, it is much better now thank goodness........................he said next time he would listen to me a bit better.........................................right!!! Live and learn. Later, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > Gail, > I have not checked all of the old Camden County records, as it is hard for > me to get to that library and/or that courthouse with the hours I work. > However, I have accessed census records and can place both James Rowell > Sr. (1810), and James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) in Camden County in (1820 & > 1830). James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) and his brother, David Rowell in Ware > County 1850, and both of them in Pierce County in 1860 (census). > I will one day get to Camden County, just don't know when yet. I have > relied on the Brantley, Charlton, and Ware County libraries and the > records they store there a lot, as well as talking to a lot of Crews, > Rowell, Johns and related familes. > Thank you for any suggesting that you give me. I always appreciate it. > Sheila > Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheila, > Has anyone checked the old Camden Co. Records to see if these men married > there by chance. I have not made it there yet but the man said that they > do > have some very old marriages on file at the Genealogy library there. > > Also I found a few of them in that neck of the woods married over in Ware > County and a handfull in Wayne Co..................................... > > I think it is due to the fact that the counties kept on changing so much > for > a long time! > > Just wondering, I know you have most likely check this already but just on > the off chance that you have not............................. > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > > >> Kay, >> Yes, this James (James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) (1810-1915) is brother to that >> David (David Rowell, 1824-1922 NOTE: I have him listed as dying in 1922, >> do I need to correct my record on his death?) >> Their father was James Rowell, Sr, and grandfather was John RS Rowell, >> but >> no one seems to know who the wives of James Sr or John RS Rowell are. >> Sheila >> >> Kay Music wrote: >> Could someone tell me if this James that y'all have been talking about, >> was the brother of the David, (see below) Does anyone know who the >> parents >> of the James mentioned were? >> Thanks, >> Kay >> Descendants of David Rowell >> >> Generation No. 1 >> 1. DAVID2 ROWELL (JAMES1) was born November 03, 1824 in Camden Co, GA, >> and >> died November 27, 1902 in Charlton Co. He married BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA HEATH >> June 09, 1889 in Charlton, Co.. She was born January 10, 1845 in Ware >> County, and died November 03, 1931 in Charlton Co., Ga.. >> More About DAVID ROWELL: >> Burial: Emmaus Cemetary, Charlton Co, GA >> More About BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA HEATH: >> Burial: Emmaus Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Charlton Co., Ga. >> >> Child of DAVID ROWELL and BATHSEBA/ HEATH is: >> i. SPENCER M.3 ROWELL, b. August 15, 1891, St George, Charlton Co, GA; d. >> September 21, 1950, St George, Charlton Co, GA.; m. KATHERINE KATIE >> CRAWFORD, April 15, 1917, Charlton, Co.; b. November 16, 1894, St George, >> Charlton Co, GA; d. April 24, 1959, St George, Charlton Co, GA. >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. 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Olivia, Like you always love to say, "Knowledge is power." hehehe Glad you figured it out. It was hard to find your answers mixed in with all the other stuff. Hey the cream rises to the top! LOL Sharon Hallauah I finally found the answer to my problem. Now I don't answer on the bottom. Olivia

Hallauah I finally found the answer to my problem. Now I don't answer on the bottom. Olivia shadri wrote: >Sheila, > > > >Thank you for taking the time to look. In Volume 5 of POWG, there is a David >ROWELL born 1806, son of David ROWELL RS. He married (2nd wife) Flora >CAMPBELL. In Lowndes County. They had a daughter Elizabeth born Sep 2, 1834. >It has "married UNKNOWN" beside her name. I wonder if she may be the one? >However, it could be the Elizabeth ROWELL who was involved with William >STARLING was a ROWELL by marriage. The name Elizabeth being so popular, it >would be hard to know unless you found some record I suppose. > > > >Thanks again, > > > >Sharon > > > > > > > >Sharon, >I do not have a daughter named Elizabeth listed for this David Rowell >(1824-1922). I have him listed as married twice 1. Jane Howard (b. 1820 d. >?)with nine children, one being named Tobitha Isabella Rowell. 2. Basheba >Heath (1844-1931). I have seen that information about the name change of >those children, but my brain won't tell me right now where it was. >I also have two other siblings of David Rowell and James A. Rowell (Lt. >CSA), they are Andrew Rowell (no other information) and Mary Elizabeth >"Betsy" Rowell (1825-1905) who married Archibald Carroll (b. 1821). What is >odd is that Archibald Carroll's parents were Edward (Carrell) Carroll and >Elizabeth Rowell. I DO NOT have any information on this Elizabeth Rowell, >dates of birth or death, parents, etc. And she may very well have been >married before or after Edward Carroll. >I hope this isn't confusing....but this is all I have right now. >Sheila > >shadri <[email protected]> wrote: >Does anyone know if this Elizabeth ROWELL was the daughter of David ROWELL? >Or if not, do you have any further data on her? > >I am not a known ROWELL descendant. However, I am a STARLING descendant. >William was my 4th great-Grandfather Thomas' brother. Thomas' son Abraham >STARLING was my 3rd great-Grandfather > >Sharon Driver Wright > > >Children of WILLIAM STARLING and ELIZABETH ROWELL are: > >viii. THOMAS6 STARLING, b. Abt. 1828, Georgia. > >ix. GATSY STARLING, b. Abt. 1830. > >x. TOBITHA STARLING, b. Abt. 1831. > >xi. JAMES R. STARLING, b. Abt. 1833. > >xii. ELLENDER STARLING, b. Abt. 1835. > >1841- December 8 a legal name change is documented by a legislative act for >the children: Gatsy, Tobitha "Bytha", and Thomas & Ellender, to change their >names to Starling from Rowell to make them the legal heirs of >their father, William Starling of Lowndes County, Georgia. >In "Name Changes of Georgia" There are two different years listed for this >legal name change. First December 24, 1832, then the 1841 date above. > > >==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

Sheila, Thank you for taking the time to look. In Volume 5 of POWG, there is a David ROWELL born 1806, son of David ROWELL RS. He married (2nd wife) Flora CAMPBELL. In Lowndes County. They had a daughter Elizabeth born Sep 2, 1834. It has "married UNKNOWN" beside her name. I wonder if she may be the one? However, it could be the Elizabeth ROWELL who was involved with William STARLING was a ROWELL by marriage. The name Elizabeth being so popular, it would be hard to know unless you found some record I suppose. Thanks again, Sharon Sharon, I do not have a daughter named Elizabeth listed for this David Rowell (1824-1922). I have him listed as married twice 1. Jane Howard (b. 1820 d. ?)with nine children, one being named Tobitha Isabella Rowell. 2. Basheba Heath (1844-1931). I have seen that information about the name change of those children, but my brain won't tell me right now where it was. I also have two other siblings of David Rowell and James A. Rowell (Lt. CSA), they are Andrew Rowell (no other information) and Mary Elizabeth "Betsy" Rowell (1825-1905) who married Archibald Carroll (b. 1821). What is odd is that Archibald Carroll's parents were Edward (Carrell) Carroll and Elizabeth Rowell. I DO NOT have any information on this Elizabeth Rowell, dates of birth or death, parents, etc. And she may very well have been married before or after Edward Carroll. I hope this isn't confusing....but this is all I have right now. Sheila shadri <[email protected]> wrote: Does anyone know if this Elizabeth ROWELL was the daughter of David ROWELL? Or if not, do you have any further data on her? I am not a known ROWELL descendant. However, I am a STARLING descendant. William was my 4th great-Grandfather Thomas' brother. Thomas' son Abraham STARLING was my 3rd great-Grandfather Sharon Driver Wright Children of WILLIAM STARLING and ELIZABETH ROWELL are: viii. THOMAS6 STARLING, b. Abt. 1828, Georgia. ix. GATSY STARLING, b. Abt. 1830. x. TOBITHA STARLING, b. Abt. 1831. xi. JAMES R. STARLING, b. Abt. 1833. xii. ELLENDER STARLING, b. Abt. 1835. 1841- December 8 a legal name change is documented by a legislative act for the children: Gatsy, Tobitha "Bytha", and Thomas & Ellender, to change their names to Starling from Rowell to make them the legal heirs of their father, William Starling of Lowndes County, Georgia. In "Name Changes of Georgia" There are two different years listed for this legal name change. First December 24, 1832, then the 1841 date above.

Hello List Mates, I know we always enjoy talking about old timey things on this list. There is a list that is made for this (and other subjects), and safe because it is a RootsWeb list too. Almost the same time Christopher asked about Chocolate Gravy, someone on that list also was talking about it. I have been subscribed for a while. It is called Homespun. I found it when doing a Google search for homespun fabric! The members are from all over the WORLD, not just the United States. Anyway, if you'd like to check it out click the link below. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/HOMESPUN.html Take care, Sharon