Ok !! I got the message since mine was first on the list I will not post again. Thank you Have a great day. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > I'VE GOT GEANOLOGICAL ANXIETY PANIC ATTACK SYNDROME > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > FOR > > Having 219 emails and about 1/3 of them are one liners that have NO > signifcance whatso ever > > No offense > > JH > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barb <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:38:48 -0400 > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > > I have to laugh I believe we have what is called " Geneaology > Alzheimers". > Barb > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > > > That's looks better and will be of a lot more help to you in the long > haul > I do believe..........................lol. > > Gail > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > > > > > >> Thank you Gail > >> I am truely sorry for the posting of wrong date of death I actually > don't >> know the date of death on him or Temperance. As you say it should > have >> been posted as follows. Again AGE takes its toll. LOL. > >> James A Rowell born june 04, 1820 married Temperance Dowling (Tempy) > on >> April 16, 1845, Tempy born Jan 14, 1828. > >> Now if I have not already posted and anyone wants to know I have > children >> and birth dates. I have 13 children listed, 5 male > >> 8 female. > >> Barb > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gail Moore" > <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:00 PM > >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > >> > >> > >>> Barb, > >>> This was your org. post..................below here, see you typed in > >>> died April 16, 1845! > >>> Perhaps you want to change this and repost the whole thing so it > makes >>> more sense to everybody and we all have the same information to > help >>> with? > >>> It must be a typo I do that all the time, don't worry about it we all > >>> make mistakes at times......................lol > >>> Gail > >>> > >>>>>Barb <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>Ok hope this helps. This is from the wall , from their family. It > was >>>>>in a picture frame. > >>>>>I have James A Rowell born June 04, 1820 died April 16 1845 > >>>>>married Tempy Dowling born Jan 14, 1828 died ? > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi, Since we've only had 189 posts to the list this month you must be on multiple lists. Along with genealogy there will be a certain amount of chatter on a list of this kind, including some side tracking and thankyous. There is also the occasional message sent in error and the follow-up apology. I read the emails from this list most days. It is a low volume list and I'm happy with the current exchanges. If you feel you're getting too many emails maybe you'd like to try the digest mode where you get multiple posts in a single email. If so, let me know. Kati Smith GAWARE List Admin [email protected] Elver's Peak (my personal home page with genealogies) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/ Beulah Church Cemetery http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/beulah.htm Ware County Georgia, GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ Wiregrass Resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/wiregrass.html Cherokee (Tsalagi) Circle of Learning Page http://www.geocities.com/kimis.geo/tsalagi.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > I'VE GOT GEANOLOGICAL ANXIETY PANIC ATTACK SYNDROME > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > FOR > > Having 219 emails and about 1/3 of them are one liners that have NO > signifcance whatso ever > > No offense

This is wonderful, and I appreciate the information. Thanks a bunch. Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Sue, > No problem, the children are as follows: > 1. Franklin Columbus Johns b. abt 1871 > 2. Jeremiah G Johns b. abt 1872 > 3. William Isaac Johns b. abt 1873 > 4. Hilliam Johns b. abt. 1874 > 5. Elizie Magdalene Johns b. abt 1875 > 6. Martha Victoria Johns b. abt 1879 > 7. General Kyler Johns b. March 29, 1882 married Agnes "Aggie" Todd (no > dates) > 8. Owen K Johns b. December 18, 1880 married (on Sept. 13, 1900 in Wayne > County, GA) Sarah Frances Lee (1885-1978) > > I have no spouses or other information on the first six children, if you > or anyone else does that would like to share, I would love to have the > information for my database. > Sheila > > Sue & Richard Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheila would you mind posting the eight children for Israel and Kesiah? I > have hopefully they are correct two. > Owen K. and General Kyler. > Thanks, > Sue > > > From the Desktop of > Sue & Richard Marsh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > > >> Gail & Olivia, >> I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah >> Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & >> Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) >> with >> eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children >> listed. >> Sheila >> >> Olivia Mullis wrote: >> Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> The county is wrong. >> >> Olivia >> >>> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >>> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >>> >>> They had 8 children. >>> >>> ----Original Message Follows---- >>> From: "Gail Moore" >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >>> >>> Sheila, >>> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >>> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >>> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >>> Is this who you mention here? >>> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >>> still there. >>> Is this her? >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> >>> >>>> Barb, >>>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of >>>> Jeremiah H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne >>>> County, GA. >>>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew >>>> McClellan Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. >>>> 1853, who married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since >>>> you didn't give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was >>>> married to both of them? Just wondering. >>>> Thanks >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>>> >>>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila >>>> Brantley County, GA >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Yahoo! 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Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> Sheila >> Brantley County, GA >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! 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Kati, I did not see the show. Not sure how I feel about people having social events in cemeteries. Don't know if they could do any more damage than the prison inmates do when mowing many cemeteries. Many old headstones have been broken by them. I was always taught to show respect to graves as well. My mother always told us to never step on a grave. She said it was disrespectful, and that many old graves could actually cave in. Sharon >Whether you saw it or not, what do you think? Kati Smith<

Well the bible says to rejoice at death and cry over a birth! Perhaps this is what they are trying to do. However I was raised up the same as you. Don't step on anyone's grave and behave yourself in the cemetery and don't run but walk as the dead are resting! Don't liter That type of thing Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kati" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: [GAWARE] PBS show on Cemeteries > Hi Listers, > I don't know if anyone else saw the PBS show on cemeteries but I would be > interested in your views. > > Since I was old enough to remember, every year when we went to the family > reunion we would always go afterwards to visit my grandmother's grave > (daddy's mom). My dad dearly loved his mom and this was his way of > remaining close to her. Our visit was always ones of quiet reverence. As > a result I've always been mindful of stepping on what I knew to be a > gravesites. I was respectful and always a little in awe. > > On the PBS show they showed many different traditions and uses for > cemeteries. People were giving tours and holding social events (music in > the park or art in the park type events and even reinactments). I'd never > really thought of cemeteries as a place for a social gathering except for > funerals. > > And a couple of weeks ago I came back from London where we saw children > running a playing among the gravestones. > > I missed the first part of the show but found it facinating. I'm sure they > will run it again and I will try to catch it. > > Whether you saw it or not, what do you think? > > Kati Smith > GAWARE List Admin > [email protected] > Elver's Peak (my personal home page with genealogies) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/ > Beulah Church Cemetery > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/beulah.htm > Ware County Georgia, GenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > Wiregrass Resources > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/wiregrass.html > Cherokee (Tsalagi) Circle of Learning Page > http://www.geocities.com/kimis.geo/tsalagi.htm > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Keep me posted if you find proof of this. This is interesting to me as I do Green, Padget, Foreacre and Higginbothom for my Hubby. This goes back to his Mother's, Mother's, Mother! His Great Grandmother was a Green by marriage that is she was born Foreacre in North Florida! Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Silvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell/Lee Hey Gail, Sorry to be so long answering you...just got back to my puter and found "BUNCHES" of emails to go through. This has been a busy group these last few days...LOL..and that is GREAT! I got my information from several sources: FamilySearch.org, Rootsweb, Hughes Family Tree and from my niece, Cathy Martin Finnie (she has done a good deal of Lee research). I have not been able to get 100% proof of this through marriage records yet. I would love to do that though. I appreciate all of the good information y'all have been posting lately. I have had a time keeping up with it all! Must be true about "slowing down as you get older" ....hahaha. Take care, Lorraine >From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:51:59 -0400 > >Lorraine: >Where did you find that at? >I have John Lee brother of My George Lewis Lee married to Emily Thornton. >That would be the John Lee b. 1859. > >Same as Sheila only I did not know her name was so long!! > >Good Grief what a name to hang on a child. > >Gail >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Silvey" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:20 PM >Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > > >Sheila, >In my file I show John Lee (1859) as being married to a Eugenia Green. Do >I >have the wrong information or was he married more than once? > >Lorraine > > >>From: Rd C <[email protected]> >> >>Gail, >>The relationship would probably be through the Lee family. Wilson >>Wainright's brother, Woodrow married Mary Elizabeth Lee, daughter of >>William Raymond Lee and Mary Emma Hickox. William Raymond Lee is the son >>of John Lee and Mary Mahalia Emily Thornton. This John Lee (1859) is the >>son of James (CSA) Lee and Catherine Miller, and brother to Martha Lee who >>married Martin Nettles, parents of Irene Nettles, wife of Albert Lewis >>Johns, who was also married to Martha Jane Lee, daughter of George Lewis >>Lee, Sr. and Francis Corbitt/Corbett, who of course was brother to Martha >>and John Lee mentioned above. >>Sheila > > _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Sharon, Old Benton Co now known as Calhoun Co. AL is in SE AL.! Hummmmmmmmmmm perhaps I should go back to ancestry and check Jacksonville P.O. Benton Co. AL. 1850 and search for the surname Byrd instead of White and Cothran and see what I come up with. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: [GAWARE] Re: Gail : BYRD, WHITE etc > > Gail, > > I wish I knew more about my BYRDs to be able to share. According to the > various census from North Florida, A Seaborn J. Byrd shows up in Holmes > County, FL 1850, then next census he is in Walton Co, FL, then next one he > is in Holmes again. On each of these it says he was born in Alabama. I > don't > know WHERE in Alabama! A cousin told me at a funeral once that our Byrds > were from Southeast Alabama, he didn't know exactly where either. On the > 1880 Census there is an S.J. Byrd in Madison County, FL....then by the > next > one, his widow is found in Jackson County, FL. > > I have some WHITEs also. One of my DRIVERs that went to Alabama married a > Letty Ann White. I looked in my files and I have a Mary A. White born > Coosa > County, AL abt 1851 died Ovalo, Texas abt 1920. Don't know who she > married. > I got this information a long time ago from a WHITE researcher who said > these WHITEs came from the Cherokee Nation East. I sure wish I'd kept > better > records back then! I don't even know if I made a record of his "then" > email > address. The oldest in this family of WHITEs is Thomas WHITE and wife > Missouri BUFFINGTON > > I believe you may be on the right track in thinking that BYRD was > somewhere > a surname connected to your family. Many families did this. > > Glad your hubby Tony is okay. I've heard some real horror stories about > those spiders. > > COTHRAN and various spellings is a name seen around this North Florida > area > too! > > Sharon > > > > 1. SEABORN J.1 BYRD was born Abt. 1830 in Alabama, and died 04 April 1899 > in > Jackson County, Florida. He married (1) ELIZABETH Abt. 1850. She was born > Abt. 1830 in Georgia. He married (2) MARY JOHANNA SUTTON 10 December 1890 > in > Marianna, Jackson County, Florida. She was born November 1867 in Jackson > County, Florida, and died 20 November 1901 in Jackson County, Florida. > > > Children of SEABORN BYRD and ELIZABETH are: > > i. JOHN E.2 BYRD, b. 18 November 1861; d. 22 August 1941. > > ii. SEABORN WARREN BYRD, b. 30 March 1868; d. 30 August 1927; m. NORA > WINIFRED NEWLEN, 18 November 1907, Suwannee County, Florida; b. 29 June > 1889; d. 21 October 1934, Suwannee County, Florida. > > iii. WILLIAM FRANK BYRD, b. 07 September 1870, Georgia; d. 08 July 1949, > Lafayette County, Florida; m. ALTHEA "ALLIE" SESSIONS, 06 February 1895, > Lafayette County, Florida; b. 31 May 1875; d. 18 March 1927, Lafayette > County, Florida. > > > Children of SEABORN BYRD and MARY SUTTON are: > > iv. JOHN SHIRAM2 BYRD, b. December 1891. > > v. HARRISON SEABORN BYRD, b. 11 October 1894, Jackson County, Florida; d. > 21 > January 1976, Jackson County, Florida; m. RUBY RENTHIA RILEY, Abt. 1917; > b. > 28 October 1896, Houston County, Alabama; d. 02 March 1979, Marianna, > Jackson County, Florida. > > vi. JAMES ARTHUR BYRD, b. 08 January 1896; d. Abt. 1908. > > vii. FRANCES CHARLOTTE BYRD, b. 28 December 1897, Jackson County, Florida; > d. 04 October 1975, Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida; m. GEORGE IVEY > JOHNSON, 05 May 1912, Chipley, Washington County, Florida; b. 20 June > 1894, > Decatur County, Georgia; d. 14 November 1980, Jacksonville, Duval County, > Florida. > > > <snipped> >>Help guys what Byrd family..................... > He visited back and forth from AL to Hamburg, AR to the county of Ashley. > He went to visit his children there! > > They were both born in GA but I have no clue as to where???? > > He met and married Miss Mary Ann WHITE in old Benton Co. now Calhoun Co., > AL > Sept. 25, 1851Next I find William B. Cothran buried in the Anitosh > Cemetery > there in > Ashley Co. AR and in the upper right hand corner is the name BYRD Gail< > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I'VE GOT GEANOLOGICAL ANXIETY PANIC ATTACK SYNDROME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR Having 219 emails and about 1/3 of them are one liners that have NO signifcance whatso ever No offense JH -----Original Message----- From: Barb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:38:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell I have to laugh I believe we have what is called " Geneaology Alzheimers". Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > That's looks better and will be of a lot more help to you in the long haul > I do believe..........................lol. > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > > >> Thank you Gail >> I am truely sorry for the posting of wrong date of death I actually don't >> know the date of death on him or Temperance. As you say it should have >> been posted as follows. Again AGE takes its toll. LOL. >> James A Rowell born june 04, 1820 married Temperance Dowling (Tempy) on >> April 16, 1845, Tempy born Jan 14, 1828. >> Now if I have not already posted and anyone wants to know I have children >> and birth dates. I have 13 children listed, 5 male >> 8 female. >> Barb >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell >> >> >>> Barb, >>> This was your org. post..................below here, see you typed in >>> died April 16, 1845! >>> Perhaps you want to change this and repost the whole thing so it makes >>> more sense to everybody and we all have the same information to help >>> with? >>> It must be a typo I do that all the time, don't worry about it we all >>> make mistakes at times......................lol >>> Gail >>> >>>>>Barb <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>Ok hope this helps. This is from the wall , from their family. It was >>>>>in a picture frame. >>>>>I have James A Rowell born June 04, 1820 died April 16 1845 >>>>>married Tempy Dowling born Jan 14, 1828 died ? >>> >>> >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

There is a David Reed Rowell CLINCH BTRY GA LT ARTY Confederate Veteran But also another Rowell that his dates fit a Confederate Veteran thats buried close to a town called Rowtown -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine Silvey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:08:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell Sheila....not a problem, I only had the one wife and I sometimes get things mixed up so I just wanted to "clear" my head...so to speak.....LOL. You have such a wealth of information and are so good at sharing....I know everyone else appreciate you as much as I do. Us cuzzens got to stick together....haha. >From: Rd C <[email protected]> > >Lorraine, >I apologize, I should have included both spouses. No, you are correct, this >John Lee (1859-1912) was married twice, his second wife being Eugenia >Caroline Green (1871-1924). I have them listed as both being buried at >High Bluff Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery in Brantley County, GA. >Sheila > > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 &targetid=5429

CREWS Confederate veterans: Looking for the graves of or ANY info that may give leads to : Archibald Bryant C.N. C.C. R. Sorry do NOT know those who are only listed as initials. Joel Hewitt Clinch 4th GA CAV Researcher -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hughes <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:53:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. They had 8 children. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 Sheila, How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? Is this who you mention here? The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but still there. Is this her? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >Barb, >I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) married >to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of Jeremiah H. Johns and >Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne County, GA. >Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew McClellan >Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. 1853, who >married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since you didn't give >dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was married to both of them? >Just wondering. >Thanks >Sheila > >> > >>Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>John Johns married Verdie White >>>Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>Thanks Barb >>>----- > > >Sheila >Brantley County, GA > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > >==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Sharon, Check out Pierce Cty for Byrd's. Olivia shadri wrote: >Gail, > >I wish I knew more about my BYRDs to be able to share. According to the >various census from North Florida, A Seaborn J. Byrd shows up in Holmes >County, FL 1850, then next census he is in Walton Co, FL, then next one he >is in Holmes again. On each of these it says he was born in Alabama. I don't >know WHERE in Alabama! A cousin told me at a funeral once that our Byrds >were from Southeast Alabama, he didn't know exactly where either. On the >1880 Census there is an S.J. Byrd in Madison County, FL....then by the next >one, his widow is found in Jackson County, FL. > >I have some WHITEs also. One of my DRIVERs that went to Alabama married a >Letty Ann White. I looked in my files and I have a Mary A. White born Coosa >County, AL abt 1851 died Ovalo, Texas abt 1920. Don't know who she married. >I got this information a long time ago from a WHITE researcher who said >these WHITEs came from the Cherokee Nation East. I sure wish I'd kept better >records back then! I don't even know if I made a record of his "then" email >address. The oldest in this family of WHITEs is Thomas WHITE and wife >Missouri BUFFINGTON > >I believe you may be on the right track in thinking that BYRD was somewhere >a surname connected to your family. Many families did this. > >Glad your hubby Tony is okay. I've heard some real horror stories about >those spiders. > >COTHRAN and various spellings is a name seen around this North Florida area >too! > >Sharon > > > >1. SEABORN J.1 BYRD was born Abt. 1830 in Alabama, and died 04 April 1899 in >Jackson County, Florida. He married (1) ELIZABETH Abt. 1850. She was born >Abt. 1830 in Georgia. He married (2) MARY JOHANNA SUTTON 10 December 1890 in >Marianna, Jackson County, Florida. She was born November 1867 in Jackson >County, Florida, and died 20 November 1901 in Jackson County, Florida. > > >Children of SEABORN BYRD and ELIZABETH are: > >i. JOHN E.2 BYRD, b. 18 November 1861; d. 22 August 1941. > >ii. SEABORN WARREN BYRD, b. 30 March 1868; d. 30 August 1927; m. NORA >WINIFRED NEWLEN, 18 November 1907, Suwannee County, Florida; b. 29 June >1889; d. 21 October 1934, Suwannee County, Florida. > >iii. WILLIAM FRANK BYRD, b. 07 September 1870, Georgia; d. 08 July 1949, >Lafayette County, Florida; m. ALTHEA "ALLIE" SESSIONS, 06 February 1895, >Lafayette County, Florida; b. 31 May 1875; d. 18 March 1927, Lafayette >County, Florida. > > >Children of SEABORN BYRD and MARY SUTTON are: > >iv. JOHN SHIRAM2 BYRD, b. December 1891. > >v. HARRISON SEABORN BYRD, b. 11 October 1894, Jackson County, Florida; d. 21 >January 1976, Jackson County, Florida; m. RUBY RENTHIA RILEY, Abt. 1917; b. >28 October 1896, Houston County, Alabama; d. 02 March 1979, Marianna, >Jackson County, Florida. > >vi. JAMES ARTHUR BYRD, b. 08 January 1896; d. Abt. 1908. > >vii. FRANCES CHARLOTTE BYRD, b. 28 December 1897, Jackson County, Florida; >d. 04 October 1975, Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida; m. GEORGE IVEY >JOHNSON, 05 May 1912, Chipley, Washington County, Florida; b. 20 June 1894, >Decatur County, Georgia; d. 14 November 1980, Jacksonville, Duval County, >Florida. > > ><snipped> > > >>Help guys what Byrd family..................... >> >> >He visited back and forth from AL to Hamburg, AR to the county of Ashley. >He went to visit his children there! > >They were both born in GA but I have no clue as to where???? > >He met and married Miss Mary Ann WHITE in old Benton Co. now Calhoun Co., AL >Sept. 25, 1851Next I find William B. Cothran buried in the Anitosh Cemetery >there in >Ashley Co. AR and in the upper right hand corner is the name BYRD Gail< > > >==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >

Gail, I wish I knew more about my BYRDs to be able to share. According to the various census from North Florida, A Seaborn J. Byrd shows up in Holmes County, FL 1850, then next census he is in Walton Co, FL, then next one he is in Holmes again. On each of these it says he was born in Alabama. I don't know WHERE in Alabama! A cousin told me at a funeral once that our Byrds were from Southeast Alabama, he didn't know exactly where either. On the 1880 Census there is an S.J. Byrd in Madison County, FL....then by the next one, his widow is found in Jackson County, FL. I have some WHITEs also. One of my DRIVERs that went to Alabama married a Letty Ann White. I looked in my files and I have a Mary A. White born Coosa County, AL abt 1851 died Ovalo, Texas abt 1920. Don't know who she married. I got this information a long time ago from a WHITE researcher who said these WHITEs came from the Cherokee Nation East. I sure wish I'd kept better records back then! I don't even know if I made a record of his "then" email address. The oldest in this family of WHITEs is Thomas WHITE and wife Missouri BUFFINGTON I believe you may be on the right track in thinking that BYRD was somewhere a surname connected to your family. Many families did this. Glad your hubby Tony is okay. I've heard some real horror stories about those spiders. COTHRAN and various spellings is a name seen around this North Florida area too! Sharon 1. SEABORN J.1 BYRD was born Abt. 1830 in Alabama, and died 04 April 1899 in Jackson County, Florida. He married (1) ELIZABETH Abt. 1850. She was born Abt. 1830 in Georgia. He married (2) MARY JOHANNA SUTTON 10 December 1890 in Marianna, Jackson County, Florida. She was born November 1867 in Jackson County, Florida, and died 20 November 1901 in Jackson County, Florida. Children of SEABORN BYRD and ELIZABETH are: i. JOHN E.2 BYRD, b. 18 November 1861; d. 22 August 1941. ii. SEABORN WARREN BYRD, b. 30 March 1868; d. 30 August 1927; m. NORA WINIFRED NEWLEN, 18 November 1907, Suwannee County, Florida; b. 29 June 1889; d. 21 October 1934, Suwannee County, Florida. iii. WILLIAM FRANK BYRD, b. 07 September 1870, Georgia; d. 08 July 1949, Lafayette County, Florida; m. ALTHEA "ALLIE" SESSIONS, 06 February 1895, Lafayette County, Florida; b. 31 May 1875; d. 18 March 1927, Lafayette County, Florida. Children of SEABORN BYRD and MARY SUTTON are: iv. JOHN SHIRAM2 BYRD, b. December 1891. v. HARRISON SEABORN BYRD, b. 11 October 1894, Jackson County, Florida; d. 21 January 1976, Jackson County, Florida; m. RUBY RENTHIA RILEY, Abt. 1917; b. 28 October 1896, Houston County, Alabama; d. 02 March 1979, Marianna, Jackson County, Florida. vi. JAMES ARTHUR BYRD, b. 08 January 1896; d. Abt. 1908. vii. FRANCES CHARLOTTE BYRD, b. 28 December 1897, Jackson County, Florida; d. 04 October 1975, Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida; m. GEORGE IVEY JOHNSON, 05 May 1912, Chipley, Washington County, Florida; b. 20 June 1894, Decatur County, Georgia; d. 14 November 1980, Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida. <snipped> >Help guys what Byrd family..................... He visited back and forth from AL to Hamburg, AR to the county of Ashley. He went to visit his children there! They were both born in GA but I have no clue as to where???? He met and married Miss Mary Ann WHITE in old Benton Co. now Calhoun Co., AL Sept. 25, 1851Next I find William B. Cothran buried in the Anitosh Cemetery there in Ashley Co. AR and in the upper right hand corner is the name BYRD Gail<

Hey Gail, Sorry to be so long answering you...just got back to my puter and found "BUNCHES" of emails to go through. This has been a busy group these last few days...LOL..and that is GREAT! I got my information from several sources: FamilySearch.org, Rootsweb, Hughes Family Tree and from my niece, Cathy Martin Finnie (she has done a good deal of Lee research). I have not been able to get 100% proof of this through marriage records yet. I would love to do that though. I appreciate all of the good information y'all have been posting lately. I have had a time keeping up with it all! Must be true about "slowing down as you get older" ....hahaha. Take care, Lorraine >From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:51:59 -0400 > >Lorraine: >Where did you find that at? >I have John Lee brother of My George Lewis Lee married to Emily Thornton. >That would be the John Lee b. 1859. > >Same as Sheila only I did not know her name was so long!! > >Good Grief what a name to hang on a child. > >Gail >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Silvey" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:20 PM >Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Rowell > > >Sheila, >In my file I show John Lee (1859) as being married to a Eugenia Green. Do >I >have the wrong information or was he married more than once? > >Lorraine > > >>From: Rd C <[email protected]> >> >>Gail, >>The relationship would probably be through the Lee family. Wilson >>Wainright's brother, Woodrow married Mary Elizabeth Lee, daughter of >>William Raymond Lee and Mary Emma Hickox. William Raymond Lee is the son >>of John Lee and Mary Mahalia Emily Thornton. This John Lee (1859) is the >>son of James (CSA) Lee and Catherine Miller, and brother to Martha Lee who >>married Martin Nettles, parents of Irene Nettles, wife of Albert Lewis >>Johns, who was also married to Martha Jane Lee, daughter of George Lewis >>Lee, Sr. and Francis Corbitt/Corbett, who of course was brother to Martha >>and John Lee mentioned above. >>Sheila > > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Hi Listers, I don't know if anyone else saw the PBS show on cemeteries but I would be interested in your views. Since I was old enough to remember, every year when we went to the family reunion we would always go afterwards to visit my grandmother's grave (daddy's mom). My dad dearly loved his mom and this was his way of remaining close to her. Our visit was always ones of quiet reverence. As a result I've always been mindful of stepping on what I knew to be a gravesites. I was respectful and always a little in awe. On the PBS show they showed many different traditions and uses for cemeteries. People were giving tours and holding social events (music in the park or art in the park type events and even reinactments). I'd never really thought of cemeteries as a place for a social gathering except for funerals. And a couple of weeks ago I came back from London where we saw children running a playing among the gravestones. I missed the first part of the show but found it facinating. I'm sure they will run it again and I will try to catch it. Whether you saw it or not, what do you think? Kati Smith GAWARE List Admin [email protected] Elver's Peak (my personal home page with genealogies) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/ Beulah Church Cemetery http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/beulah.htm Ware County Georgia, GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ Wiregrass Resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elverspeak/wiregrass.html Cherokee (Tsalagi) Circle of Learning Page http://www.geocities.com/kimis.geo/tsalagi.htm

Or for help with anything either! That is until they have managed to mess it up real good first.....................tee hee tee hee Men are fickle at times it would seem Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue & Richard Marsh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > Glad that he is much better. I do not know what it is about men, they do > not want to go to the doctor, nor ask for directions. > Sue > > > From the Desktop of > Sue & Richard Marsh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:41 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > > >> Maybe one day we will both get to visit that >> library.................everytime I think I may get the chance somethings >> seems to happen around here. >> I know one thing, I don't like or care for brown recluse Spiders at all! >> Tony, my husband got bit by one about two weeks back now today! >> It came up like an ant bite and that is what he thought it was. >> He went on to work and came home with his entire finger swelled up, he >> said nothing..........................he went to work and came home with >> his entire hand swollen up the next day...................I tried to get >> him to go to the doctor, he said it was only an ant and that he never >> felt it bite him. I said that can't be an ant >> bite......................man is hard headed I tell ya! He would not >> go......................he went on to work instead. >> About 2 am he calls and wakes me up asking me when my appointment was and >> to wait on him he was going with me! >> They ran some tests, gave him a good talking to and put him on meds and >> told him it should get better over the weekend, that was on Wensday, by >> Saturday we were visiting the ER, they had to lance it. >> He was told he would be lucky if it had not done tissue damage! >> They told him that the blood work that had been done at the doctors >> office on Wensday showed it to be a spider >> bite................................ >> The culture came back done in the ER proving a brown recluse was the >> spider that had bit him! >> They changed his meds and put him on two more, it is much better now >> thank goodness........................he said next time he would listen >> to me a bit better.........................................right!!! >> >> Live and learn. >> >> Later, >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? >> >> >>> Gail, >>> I have not checked all of the old Camden County records, as it is hard >>> for me to get to that library and/or that courthouse with the hours I >>> work. However, I have accessed census records and can place both James >>> Rowell Sr. (1810), and James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) in Camden County in >>> (1820 & 1830). James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) and his brother, David Rowell >>> in Ware County 1850, and both of them in Pierce County in 1860 (census). >>> I will one day get to Camden County, just don't know when yet. I have >>> relied on the Brantley, Charlton, and Ware County libraries and the >>> records they store there a lot, as well as talking to a lot of Crews, >>> Rowell, Johns and related familes. >>> Thank you for any suggesting that you give me. I always appreciate it. >>> Sheila >>> Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Sheila, >>> Has anyone checked the old Camden Co. Records to see if these men >>> married >>> there by chance. I have not made it there yet but the man said that they >>> do >>> have some very old marriages on file at the Genealogy library there. >>> >>> Also I found a few of them in that neck of the woods married over in >>> Ware >>> County and a handfull in Wayne Co..................................... >>> >>> I think it is due to the fact that the counties kept on changing so much >>> for >>> a long time! >>> >>> Just wondering, I know you have most likely check this already but just >>> on >>> the off chance that you have not............................. >>> >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? >>> >>> >>>> Kay, >>>> Yes, this James (James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) (1810-1915) is brother to >>>> that >>>> David (David Rowell, 1824-1922 NOTE: I have him listed as dying in >>>> 1922, >>>> do I need to correct my record on his death?) >>>> Their father was James Rowell, Sr, and grandfather was John RS Rowell, >>>> but >>>> no one seems to know who the wives of James Sr or John RS Rowell are. >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>> Kay Music wrote: >>>> Could someone tell me if this James that y'all have been talking about, >>>> was the brother of the David, (see below) Does anyone know who the >>>> parents >>>> of the James mentioned were? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kay >>>> Descendants of David Rowell >>>> >>>> Generation No. 1 >>>> 1. DAVID2 ROWELL (JAMES1) was born November 03, 1824 in Camden Co, GA, >>>> and >>>> died November 27, 1902 in Charlton Co. He married BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA >>>> HEATH >>>> June 09, 1889 in Charlton, Co.. She was born January 10, 1845 in Ware >>>> County, and died November 03, 1931 in Charlton Co., Ga.. >>>> More About DAVID ROWELL: >>>> Burial: Emmaus Cemetary, Charlton Co, GA >>>> More About BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA HEATH: >>>> Burial: Emmaus Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Charlton Co., Ga. >>>> >>>> Child of DAVID ROWELL and BATHSEBA/ HEATH is: >>>> i. SPENCER M.3 ROWELL, b. August 15, 1891, St George, Charlton Co, GA; >>>> d. >>>> September 21, 1950, St George, Charlton Co, GA.; m. KATHERINE KATIE >>>> CRAWFORD, April 15, 1917, Charlton, Co.; b. November 16, 1894, St >>>> George, >>>> Charlton Co, GA; d. April 24, 1959, St George, Charlton Co, GA. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Yahoo! 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Now that would be fun............................................. Trust me, he learned his lesson I do believe, the Doctor scared the Bee Geezs out of him! Grannie would say "Put the fear of God into him" lol Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > Good Lord Gail, > I am sorry to hear about Tony. Those particular spiders are very > dangerous and he is very lucky to in as good as shape as he is in > considering it could have been a lot worse.......when he gets better, kick > him on the leg and tell him next time go sooner (lol).........take care > and maybe one day we can both get to the library maybe together. > Sheila > > Sue & Richard Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: > Glad that he is much better. I do not know what it is about men, they do > not want to go to the doctor, nor ask for directions. > Sue > > > From the Desktop of > Sue & Richard Marsh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Moore" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:41 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? > > >> Maybe one day we will both get to visit that >> library.................everytime I think I may get the chance somethings >> seems to happen around here. >> I know one thing, I don't like or care for brown recluse Spiders at all! >> Tony, my husband got bit by one about two weeks back now today! >> It came up like an ant bite and that is what he thought it was. >> He went on to work and came home with his entire finger swelled up, he >> said nothing..........................he went to work and came home with >> his entire hand swollen up the next day...................I tried to get >> him to go to the doctor, he said it was only an ant and that he never >> felt >> it bite him. I said that can't be an ant bite......................man is >> hard headed I tell ya! He would not go......................he went on to >> work instead. >> About 2 am he calls and wakes me up asking me when my appointment was and >> to wait on him he was going with me! >> They ran some tests, gave him a good talking to and put him on meds and >> told him it should get better over the weekend, that was on Wensday, by >> Saturday we were visiting the ER, they had to lance it. >> He was told he would be lucky if it had not done tissue damage! >> They told him that the blood work that had been done at the doctors >> office >> on Wensday showed it to be a spider bite................................ >> The culture came back done in the ER proving a brown recluse was the >> spider that had bit him! >> They changed his meds and put him on two more, it is much better now >> thank >> goodness........................he said next time he would listen to me a >> bit better.........................................right!!! >> >> Live and learn. >> >> Later, >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? >> >> >>> Gail, >>> I have not checked all of the old Camden County records, as it is hard >>> for me to get to that library and/or that courthouse with the hours I >>> work. However, I have accessed census records and can place both James >>> Rowell Sr. (1810), and James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) in Camden County in >>> (1820 >>> & 1830). James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) and his brother, David Rowell in Ware >>> County 1850, and both of them in Pierce County in 1860 (census). >>> I will one day get to Camden County, just don't know when yet. I have >>> relied on the Brantley, Charlton, and Ware County libraries and the >>> records they store there a lot, as well as talking to a lot of Crews, >>> Rowell, Johns and related familes. >>> Thank you for any suggesting that you give me. I always appreciate it. >>> Sheila >>> Gail Moore wrote: >>> Sheila, >>> Has anyone checked the old Camden Co. Records to see if these men >>> married >>> there by chance. I have not made it there yet but the man said that they >>> do >>> have some very old marriages on file at the Genealogy library there. >>> >>> Also I found a few of them in that neck of the woods married over in >>> Ware >>> County and a handfull in Wayne Co..................................... >>> >>> I think it is due to the fact that the counties kept on changing so much >>> for >>> a long time! >>> >>> Just wondering, I know you have most likely check this already but just >>> on >>> the off chance that you have not............................. >>> >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] James & David Rowell-Brothers??? >>> >>> >>>> Kay, >>>> Yes, this James (James A Rowell (Lt. CSA) (1810-1915) is brother to >>>> that >>>> David (David Rowell, 1824-1922 NOTE: I have him listed as dying in >>>> 1922, >>>> do I need to correct my record on his death?) >>>> Their father was James Rowell, Sr, and grandfather was John RS Rowell, >>>> but >>>> no one seems to know who the wives of James Sr or John RS Rowell are. >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>> Kay Music wrote: >>>> Could someone tell me if this James that y'all have been talking about, >>>> was the brother of the David, (see below) Does anyone know who the >>>> parents >>>> of the James mentioned were? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kay >>>> Descendants of David Rowell >>>> >>>> Generation No. 1 >>>> 1. DAVID2 ROWELL (JAMES1) was born November 03, 1824 in Camden Co, GA, >>>> and >>>> died November 27, 1902 in Charlton Co. He married BATHSEBA/ BASHEBA >>>> HEATH >>>> June 09, 1889 in Charlton, Co.. 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The G in Jeremiah G. Johns stands for Gordon! If that helps out any at all.................................. Sheila ask Margie about the Owen Johns who lived out towards Aunt Julie Batton and Uncle Arther's place who died with a brain tumor who was Margie's and Aunt Orene's age...................they went to school with him. It may answer some questions about some of this, Not real sure. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Sue, > No problem, the children are as follows: > 1. Franklin Columbus Johns b. abt 1871 > 2. Jeremiah G Johns b. abt 1872 > 3. William Isaac Johns b. abt 1873 > 4. Hilliam Johns b. abt. 1874 > 5. Elizie Magdalene Johns b. abt 1875 > 6. Martha Victoria Johns b. abt 1879 > 7. General Kyler Johns b. March 29, 1882 married Agnes "Aggie" Todd (no > dates) > 8. Owen K Johns b. December 18, 1880 married (on Sept. 13, 1900 in Wayne > County, GA) Sarah Frances Lee (1885-1978) > > I have no spouses or other information on the first six children, if you > or anyone else does that would like to share, I would love to have the > information for my database. > Sheila > > Sue & Richard Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheila would you mind posting the eight children for Israel and Kesiah? I > have hopefully they are correct two. > Owen K. and General Kyler. > Thanks, > Sue > > > From the Desktop of > Sue & Richard Marsh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > > >> Gail & Olivia, >> I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah >> Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & >> Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) >> with >> eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children >> listed. >> Sheila >> >> Olivia Mullis wrote: >> Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> The county is wrong. >> >> Olivia >> >>> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >>> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >>> >>> They had 8 children. >>> >>> ----Original Message Follows---- >>> From: "Gail Moore" >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >>> >>> Sheila, >>> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >>> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >>> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >>> Is this who you mention here? >>> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >>> still there. >>> Is this her? >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> >>> >>>> Barb, >>>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of >>>> Jeremiah H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne >>>> County, GA. >>>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew >>>> McClellan Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. >>>> 1853, who married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since >>>> you didn't give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was >>>> married to both of them? Just wondering. >>>> Thanks >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>>> >>>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila >>>> Brantley County, GA >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Yahoo! 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Exactly, but still the same piece of dirt no matter how they want to list it.......................huh? To me it is BRANTLEY County no matter! And in theory that is correct as that is what it is NOW. But Marty is Correct. Where Uncle Vernon's home sits today It is now Brantley Co. before that, it was Wayne Co. before that it was Pierce Co. and before that it was Charleton Co. BECAUSE, Tramping around on that same dirt lived the Johns family for generations, they NEVER moved! But one census places them in one county and then the next census places them in the other county and the next one places them in yet another of the counties..................................................... Grannie born in 1903 was b. according to her birth records in Pierce Co. Grandpaddy lived across the creek over towards where Uncle Buck and Aunt Leo and Kat live or lived, and his says Pierce Co. and he was b. 1911 At that same time Martha Jane Lee died in what was at that time called Wayne Co. so the Creek would seem to also be a dividing line also used back then??? And when Haddie married Bryant that is recorded in Charleton Co. Haddie was Grandpaddies Grandma! But they were all there in a big clump mixed in among the Lee's and the rest of the connecting names! But everyone of these places pointed out to me, are now in BRANTLEY CO. TO me putting BRANTLEY Co. into FTM is much easier than listing all the Counties, and putting the other data into the NOTES field that does not always show up and we can block or allow it works much better! Besides FTM as a mind of it's own and tells you, when your wished data can't be entered in a field given. AS LONG as we know the "rest of the story" then we should be ok as long as it is saved somewhere in our files for folks later on down the line.............................................. My bet would be Charlton, seems like most stuff was through there at that time. More so than Wayne. Heck George Johns Deed mentions Wayne, Pierce, Charleton, Camden and a lot of other Counties for his land! Did I ever send you the transcribed copy of his deed Sheila? If not I can send that too ya and you can give Margie a copy for me. She is the one who gave me a copy of the Org. in the first place! Sure wish she would get a computer and go online, now that would be fun.......................... Later, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Ok, based on what little information I have on Keziah Caroline Smith, and > the fact that they lived and are buried in the southern part of what is > now Brantley County, Bachlott area, and buried at Bachlott Cemetery, which > is located in southern Brantley County, less than 3 miles from the > Charlton County line, I would conclude that it was then Charlton County. > However, Marty says that the county dividing line (Charlton/Wayne) at that > time was right about where Uncle Vernon Johns lived, which is about a mile > (give or take) from this particular cemetery and that his (great) Granny > had to pay land taxes in Wayne County about that time. So it is really a > toss up as to Wayne or Charlton. > Sheila > > Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok Brantley County GA formed in 1920 from Charlton, Pierce, Wayne Counties > taking parts from each according to page 1 of the Handbook of Georgia > Counties compiled by Marion R. Hemperley Georgia Surveyor General Dept. > Office of Secretary of State Atlanta 1980.....................digging a > bit deeper > Wayne formed on May 11, 1803 Original County Created from land ceded by > Treaty of June 16, 1802. > Pierce was created on Dec. 18, 1857 from Ware and Appling Counties. > Ware was created Dec. 15, 1824 from Appling County > Appling Co. was created Dec. 15, 1818 from Original County created from > land > ceded by Treaties of Aug. 9, 1814 and Jan. 22, 1818. > Charleton County was created Feb 18, 1854 from Camden > Camden was created Feb. 5, 1777 from Original County created from st. > Thomas > Parish and St. Mary Parish. > > So is she died on July 22, 1885 she died in what was at that time, > Either the part of Brantley Co that was taken away from Charleton County > or > the part of Pierce that was taken to make Brantley County or the part of > Wayne that was taken to make Brantley County but the lady is found buried > in > Brantley Co. today so it is just much easier to > say....................................Brantley Co. Takes up a lot less > space also. > > I suppose we should all type it up as: > Charlton, Pierce, Wayne, Brantley County for her place of death. > However if a death cert. is lucky enought to be had, and I highly doubt > that > as they were not used back then, we could just go with what it says! > > BTW I have a copy of that little book if anyone ever needs me to check on > a > County for them.......................of course I think that most of this > is > now oline, but at times we have to know where to go online to start > with.....................................................lol > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Olivia Mullis" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > > >> Richard Hughes wrote: >> The county is wrong. >> >> Olivia >> >>> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. 22 >>> July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >>> >>> They had 8 children. >>> >>> ----Original Message Follows---- >>> From: "Gail Moore" >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >>> >>> Sheila, >>> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >>> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >>> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >>> Is this who you mention here? >>> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but still >>> there. >>> Is this her? >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> >>> >>>> Barb, >>>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of Jeremiah >>>> H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne County, GA. >>>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew McClellan >>>> Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. 1853, who >>>> married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since you didn't >>>> give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was married to both >>>> of >>>> them? Just wondering. >>>> Thanks >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>>> >>>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila >>>> Brantley County, GA >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Yahoo! 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Well I meant FTM...............ooops 2006 the newest puppy they have, it's a bit different and you use it a bit different to move about in it is all. But so far I like it a lot, Just got to get the full hang of the thing. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > Gail, > No problem.........FTW or FTM? which version > Sheila > > Gail Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > Sheila, > So do I sorry about that. I just upgraded to the newest FTW program and I > am getting lost in the thing! > I had both of them too the whole time. > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, > > >> Gail & Olivia, >> I have two spouses for Israel "Champ" Johns (1849-1928). 1. Keziah >> Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith (1853-1885) (d/o William "Pappy" Smith & >> Sarah Elizabeth Stewart & sister to Lydia, Hannah, Georgia Ann, etc.) >> with >> eight children. 2. Bathsheba Dowling (1853-1902) with no children >> listed. >> Sheila >> >> Olivia Mullis wrote: >> Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> The county is wrong. >> >> Olivia >> >>> I show him also married to Keziah Caroline Smith, b. 26 May 1853, d. >>> 22 July 1885, Brantley Co., GA d/o William Smith and Elizabeth Stewart. >>> >>> They had 8 children. >>> >>> ----Original Message Follows---- >>> From: "Gail Moore" >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:42 -0400 >>> >>> Sheila, >>> How many wives do you have for Champ Johns? >>> I show Bathsheba {Bathiba} Dowling as his wife? >>> BUT have seen a Kizzie buried near by to him also? >>> Is this who you mention here? >>> The stone is now flat on the ground and is broken into pieces but >>> still there. >>> Is this her? >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Johns, Crews, >>> >>> >>>> Barb, >>>> I have Bartley Crews b. 1828(son of Isham Crews and Mary Johnson) >>>> married to Mary Elizabeth Johns b. Feb. 9, 1829, (daughter of >>>> Jeremiah H. Johns and Mary Ann McClellan) on Oct. 3, 1850 in Wayne >>>> County, GA. >>>> Would that Kisiah Smith Johns who you have married to Andrew >>>> McClellan Harrell possibly be Keziah Caroline "Kizzie/Kiza" Smith b. >>>> 1853, who married Israel Champion "Champ" Johns (1850-1928)? Since >>>> you didn't give dates, I was just trying to see if maybe she was >>>> married to both of them? Just wondering. >>>> Thanks >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Elizabeth Johns married Bartley Crews >>>>> >>>>>> John Johns married Verdie White >>>>>> Kisiah Smith Johns married Andrew McClellan Harrell >>>>>> I have several others but won't bother you with them now. >>>>>> Thanks Barb >>>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila >>>> Brantley County, GA >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> Yahoo! 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Help guys what Byrd family.....................ok here is what I ran into and don't know quite what to make of it.................................... My Cothran line....................hourse of a different color I know, you guys most of you have never heard me use that Surname before. It is my Grass Roots, the Surname that got me started in all of this years ago, it was my birth name! Ok, my Dad died when I was 3 so I wanted to know more about his family than what I had known about growing up as a kid so I jumped into genealogy......................................... I have an old bible record.....................goes way back, used it as a guide to get started. Found all of them, it took some doing but I did it with a ton of help from others. Ok now here's where the BYRD came in! An Uncle going back that it, he was my Fathers', Father's Father's brother! His name was Edward A. Cothran seen as Cothrun at times! His obit called him Judge Cothran, it aslo called him E.A. Cothrun. He died in Gadsden AL. while working as a type setter for the Gadsden Times Newspaper, which at the time was owned and operated by William Marion Meeks, who was the husband of Mary Jane Cothrun who happened to be E.A.'s niece! He visited back and forth from AL to Hamburg, AR to the county of Ashley. He went to visit his children there! They were both born in GA but I have no clue as to where???? He met and married Miss Mary Ann WHITE in old Benton Co. now Calhoun Co., AL Sept. 25, 1851.......................Mary Ann shows on the 1850 with her parents John H. White and Rachael. I can't find E. A. at all that year anywhere. I can't find them on the 1860 US census or index either one! But sometime between 1851 and 1870 he and Mary Ann White had two children that I now know of. William B. Cothran b. abt. 1855 GA d. Ashley Co. AR they called his Willy he took up trade of Carpenter. Neddie, Maddee Cothran b. abt. 1862 GA have no further info. on her at all............................ IN 1860 I did manage to find John H. White and Rachael and the same list of kids in Carter P.O. Hamburg, AR................................ I found them again on the 1870 same exact place but with the two mentioned above Cothran children, NOW you have to look close at the Old Census or you will miss the "C" in the Cothran surname. It is very faint but it is there! On the 1880 Maddee is still living with John and Rachael in the same place, but William is with a Price family down the road a bit and listed as William B. but the B is also very faint on the census! He is a boarder and working as a Carpenter which was his Grandfathers trade! I believe that Mary Ann White Cothran died some where in GA out from Atlanta and is buried there! With the children so young E.A. Cothran sent his two children to AR with Mary's parents to be brought up and taught a trade. And to give Meddie the benfit of having a female around! Next I find William B. Cothran buried in the Anitosh Cemetery there in Ashley Co. AR and in the upper right hand corner is the name BYRD No one seems to know why? Did he marry a BYRD? Or is this what the B stands for in his name? And if the B stands for BYRD in his name, where on earth did it come in at..........................was his Grandmother Rachael a BYRD? HELP???????? Also why was E.A. Cothrun called "Judge"? I did later see and had sent to me one of the many sips out of the Gadsden Times Newspaper.................................. I have a ton of them, anyway in this one it lists him as Judge Edward A. Cothrun.......................................... In a part of Atlanta GA I did find an Edward Cochran and his occupation was listed as Lawyer? NOW if I am not dead wrong, don't most Judges start out as Lawyers? Could this be him and they just missed him on the index? Help??????????????????????????? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: [GAWARE] Re:Sheila and All _Was: Elizabeth ROWELL - William STARLING > Sheila, > > No, Olivia was just proud of herself for figuring out how to answer at the > top of the messages with her new laptop. <grins> > > Thanks for all your help to everyone. Like Lorraine said, cousins > stickin' > together. > > The cousin who answered my question about my BYRD family the other day, we > don't think our BYRDs are connected? However, he mentioned his mother's > PEACOCK line. I told him I had one too. We found out that his John PEACOCK > was my Lydia PEACOCK's brother, well, his John Peacock married Drucilla > SULLIVAN and my Lydia Peacock married William SULLIVAN brother of his > Drucilla. So, it pays to discuss all these family lines! Never know when > and > how they might jine up. > > > Cousins by the dozens! > > Sharon > > Sharon, > Did I miss something? I didn't see a response from Olivia with answers to > this? > Sheila > > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >