Ok guys now who is Silas C. Johns? Is this Silas Johns b. 1796 son of Jeremiah and Levicy Brother of Jere H. and George? Or is this yet another man too?????? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <raindancer1961@yahoo.com> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: [GAWARE] Re: Johns > Olivia, > I have John Riley Johns as the son of Silas C. Johns and Nancy Chancy? > Did I pick up something in error? I only have her name, Nancy Chancy, but > I have two children listed for her and Silas C. Johns, John Riley Johns > (b. 1901) and Mary Johns (b. 1902). Please let me know something. > Thanks > Sheila > > Olivia Mullis <oliviamullis@carolina.rr.com> wrote: > Gail, > > My Walker grandmother had a brother named John Riley Johns. Son of > Silas C and Tempie Rowell Johns. > > Olivia > > Gail Moore wrote: > >> Yes I know that's what I mean we both know he does good >> work.................that was what I was trying to tell them. >> He even signed my book, that I bought that day. >> How is your Momma these days? >> >> I was trying to help them see that there were two men named John Leroy >> Thrift. >> >> Just like the Riley Johns thing, I want to help her but I have to >> figure out which of the three Rileys' she is after. >> >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift >> >> >>> Gail, >>> >>> Don't you remember meeting Luther at Mamma's birthday party? >>> That's who J. L. Thrift is. He's our cousin. >>> >>> Olivia >>> >>> Gail Moore wrote: >>> >>>> According to the book "The Thrifts of Okefinokee" by J.L. Thrift >>>> on page 56 it lists as a child of >>>> John Leroy Thirft and Lucretia M. Johns >>>> Child #5 is Robert Lesley b. Dec. 12, 1908 d. May 31, 1946 m. >>>> Pauline Johnson >>>> According to this bio >>>> John and Lieu as they called her are both buried in David Hickox >>>> Cemetery near Hoboken. >>>> >>>> The Thrifts in this book are NOT indexed..................so did he >>>> marry to someone else other than Pauline Johnson that I can check to >>>> see if perhaps this book has more on him elsewhere in the book? >>>> >>>> Gail >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sue, >>>>> According to the "Cemeteries and More" cemetery book for Brantley >>>>> County, GA , Edition 2, May 2002, page viii, New Hope is sometimes >>>>> refereed to as the Hickox Church--not to be confused with the Dave >>>>> Hickox Cemetery near Hoboken. I know that some people in the >>>>> Hickox/Bachlott area still refer to the New Hope Cemetery as the >>>>> Hickox Cemetery because it is located in the community of Hickox. >>>>> But according to this same book, both listed that you posted are >>>>> entered in to this book exactly as you listed. They both list the >>>>> same parents and the same dates of birth and death, the only >>>>> difference that I can see is that the Robert Lesley Thrift also >>>>> lists a spouse, Pauline Johnson............. >>>>> Sorry, I looked, I tried, but I don't know if they are one in the >>>>> same, twins, or someones error in printing. >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>> Sue & Richard Marsh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is a Robert Lesley Thrift b. 12 Dec. 1908 d. 31 Mar. 1946 >>>>> buried Dave Hickox Cemetery, Brantley Co. >>>>> >>>>> Also a Lesley Thrift b. 12 Dec. 1908 d. 31 Mar. 1946 buried New >>>>> Hope Cemetery, Brantley Co. >>>>> Are they the same person, and if they are which cemetery should he >>>>> be buried? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Sue >>>>> >>>>>> From the Desktop of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sue & Richard Marsh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>>>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>>>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> Search the US Census Collection. 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Guys there is also more than one John Riley Johns Ok here goes not sure if they are all John Riley Johns or some are John and Some are Riley and Some are William Riley so it gets to be a mess......................................... 1. Riley Johns b.? son of Levi Martin Johns and Martha V. Walker 2. Riley Johns b. 1844 m. Lenora Hodge son of William Riley Johns and Sarah Leigh 3. William Riley Johns b.1816 being son of George Johns and Anna 4. Riley Johns b. 1956 son of Andrew McClellan Johns and Margaret Ivey 5. Riley Johns b. 1859 son of Jacob Jefferson Johns and Catherine Highsmith. See what I mean, there are a ton of Riley Johns' It's enough to drive a person insane. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <raindancer1961@yahoo.com> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: [GAWARE] Re: Johns > Olivia, > I have John Riley Johns as the son of Silas C. Johns and Nancy Chancy? > Did I pick up something in error? I only have her name, Nancy Chancy, but > I have two children listed for her and Silas C. Johns, John Riley Johns > (b. 1901) and Mary Johns (b. 1902). Please let me know something. > Thanks > Sheila > > Olivia Mullis <oliviamullis@carolina.rr.com> wrote: > Gail, > > My Walker grandmother had a brother named John Riley Johns. Son of > Silas C and Tempie Rowell Johns. > > Olivia > > Gail Moore wrote: > >> Yes I know that's what I mean we both know he does good >> work.................that was what I was trying to tell them. >> He even signed my book, that I bought that day. >> How is your Momma these days? >> >> I was trying to help them see that there were two men named John Leroy >> Thrift. >> >> Just like the Riley Johns thing, I want to help her but I have to >> figure out which of the three Rileys' she is after. >> >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift >> >> >>> Gail, >>> >>> Don't you remember meeting Luther at Mamma's birthday party? >>> That's who J. L. Thrift is. He's our cousin. >>> >>> Olivia >>> >>> Gail Moore wrote: >>> >>>> According to the book "The Thrifts of Okefinokee" by J.L. Thrift >>>> on page 56 it lists as a child of >>>> John Leroy Thirft and Lucretia M. Johns >>>> Child #5 is Robert Lesley b. Dec. 12, 1908 d. May 31, 1946 m. >>>> Pauline Johnson >>>> According to this bio >>>> John and Lieu as they called her are both buried in David Hickox >>>> Cemetery near Hoboken. >>>> >>>> The Thrifts in this book are NOT indexed..................so did he >>>> marry to someone else other than Pauline Johnson that I can check to >>>> see if perhaps this book has more on him elsewhere in the book? >>>> >>>> Gail >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sue, >>>>> According to the "Cemeteries and More" cemetery book for Brantley >>>>> County, GA , Edition 2, May 2002, page viii, New Hope is sometimes >>>>> refereed to as the Hickox Church--not to be confused with the Dave >>>>> Hickox Cemetery near Hoboken. I know that some people in the >>>>> Hickox/Bachlott area still refer to the New Hope Cemetery as the >>>>> Hickox Cemetery because it is located in the community of Hickox. >>>>> But according to this same book, both listed that you posted are >>>>> entered in to this book exactly as you listed. They both list the >>>>> same parents and the same dates of birth and death, the only >>>>> difference that I can see is that the Robert Lesley Thrift also >>>>> lists a spouse, Pauline Johnson............. >>>>> Sorry, I looked, I tried, but I don't know if they are one in the >>>>> same, twins, or someones error in printing. >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>> Sue & Richard Marsh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is a Robert Lesley Thrift b. 12 Dec. 1908 d. 31 Mar. 1946 >>>>> buried Dave Hickox Cemetery, Brantley Co. >>>>> >>>>> Also a Lesley Thrift b. 12 Dec. 1908 d. 31 Mar. 1946 buried New >>>>> Hope Cemetery, Brantley Co. >>>>> Are they the same person, and if they are which cemetery should he >>>>> be buried? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Sue >>>>> >>>>>> From the Desktop of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sue & Richard Marsh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>>>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>>>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> Search the US Census Collection. 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Erica, I like that! Thanks for sharing it. I know that we can say the couple was friends, or various other terms, but there has to be a way to note the children in the different life situations and keep our genealogy 'accurate' ha!'. I had not heard this one before. Thanks again. Hugs, Sharon Hi, One of the lists I belong to is fond of the reference...non paternity event:) That sounds a bit better:) Erica Carver ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

I've got a headache!.................................lol Good Grief my Tree don't have branches it has rings and not just on the inside of the trunk either!! My Tree's limbs just make giant circles.................................I'm getting dizzy. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <raindancer1961@yahoo.com> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: [GAWARE] Re:Altman > Yes, that Sarah Altman is daughter of Thomas Altman, Jr. and Levicy Lucy > Leigh, and grandaughter of Thomas Altman, Sr. and Lydia Unknown. > Sheila > > Gail Moore <embracer@pineland.net> wrote: > Could this be the same Altman line that Sarah Altman who married "Yankee" > David Hickox comes from ? > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rd C" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Re: EMAILS - Crews > > >> Gail, >> Thomas Altman, Sr. b. abt 1765 in North Caroline, d. 1830 in Appling >> County, GA married Lydia Unknown. >> Sheila >> >> Gail Moore wrote: >> Sheila, >> How far back do you carry this Altman line? >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rd C" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Re: EMAILS - Crews >> >> >>> Hi Bill, >>> What I have is this: Easter (that is how I found it spelled) Hester >>> Crews >>> b. 1840, daughter of Micajah Crews (1810-1877) and Emiliza Robinson >>> (1822-1896) married Jesse Altman, Sr. (1815-1928), on January 18, 1853 >>> in >>> Wayne County, GA. I have a list of six children: >>> 1. Elizabeth Eugenia Altman b. 1857 >>> 2. Frances Altman b. 1858 >>> 3. Hester Altman b. 1865 >>> 4. James Bryant "Jim" Altman b. August 6, 1866 d. Sept. 12, 1920 (this >>> may be the one you are looking for) married Martha M. Rhoden (1870-1937) >>> 5. Newton Altman b. 1867 >>> 6. Ellen Altman b. 1869 >>> Hope this helps. >>> Sheila >>> >>> William Fish wrote: >>> 1850 United States Federal Census. M432, 1009 rolls. National Archives >>> and >>> Records Administration, Washington D.C. >>> Division 89, Ware, Georgia, roll M432_86, page 87, image 176. >>> http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7884&iid=GAT624_207-0368&fn=J+B&ln=Altman&pid=3696411 >>> >>> What do you have on Micajah Crews, his daughter Esther (Hester), the >>> family of Jesse Altman and wife Elizabeth Cason, >>> did Jesse and Esther have any children? >>> >>> I am trying to pin down a J B Altman bn.1862, who was located in Hoboken >>> in 1910 census, I have him listed as the son of >>> Jesse and Esther, but cannot find anything to support it. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rd C" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:35 AM >>> Subject: [GAWARE] Re: EMAILS >>> >>> >>>> Sheila >>>> Brantley County, GA >>>> Researching: Crews, Rowell, Johns, Williams, Steedley, and a lot of >>>> others.............. >>> >>> >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! 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Sheila, Was John Lee of Ware Co. the R.W. Soldier her Brother? Do you have siblings for her? According to Mr. Moody.....................this Sarah Leigh lived for a time with her "brother" John Lee in Hamilton Co. FL. after her husband had died.................her Husband was a Moody! I think I've told that right, I can't get to that right now, I can see it but it is at the bottom of a stack of "good stuff" don't you know! That I am currently working on, that being the package that Mr. Moody from Florida sent to me! Anyway after a time, Sarah Leigh Moody left Florida and came back to GA.............................................. He has a ton of stuff on these folks. He sent me a bunch of it already. He does not have computer. So everything is phone and snail mail....................... Later, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <raindancer1961@yahoo.com> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:52 PM Subject: [GAWARE] Re: William Riley Johns and Sarah Leigh > Sorry Gang, I am way behind on emails........... > Sarah "Sallie" Leigh is daughter of James Joyce Leigh (1795-1839) and > Mary Malphus (17997-1885). > Sheila > Gail Moore <embracer@pineland.net> wrote: > Ok Tracey: > Found Riley and Sarah Leigh > The reason I did not find them earlier is this: > His full name was William "Riley" Johns b. 1816 Camden Co. GA d. 1876 > Baker > Co. FL. married Feb. 21, 1839 to Sarah Leigh b. 1819 Liberty Co., GA d. > bet. > 1877-1888 Baker Co., FL. > they had married in Camden Co. GA > > This Sarah Leigh was a child of James J. Leigh of Camden Co. Ga I have no > more on him at this time. > > William Riley Johns was the son of George Johns b. 1787 Beaufort Dist. SC > d. > 1867 Charleton Co. GA he married about 1807 Anna > b. 1790 SC. They married in Camden Co. GA they had > 10 children. > > Riley and Sarah had 9 children > > If you would like more on this send me your e-mail or visit the GAWARE > archives I am sure with my sharing over the years you will find the > reports > that I posted to others on this mail list there as well. > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Moore" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Jessie Altman > > >> Send me her date of birth and a list of their children and a bunch of us >> on this list can most likely help you out a lot! >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tracey K" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:50 PM >> Subject: [GAWARE] Jessie Altman >> >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I have a Jessie Altman married to Nancy Johns, dau. of Riley Johns and >>> Sarah Leigh. Does anyone have more info on him? Actually, I see that I >>> need to complete Sarah Leigh's info as well . . . All I have is her dob >>> and their children. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Tracey K >>> Vilas, NC >>> >>> -- >>> "The woman who thinks she is intelligent demands equal rights with men. >>> A >>> woman who is intelligent does not." >>> - Sidonie Gabrielle Colette >>> >>> >>> ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>> GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>> GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > Sheila > Brantley County, GA > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi, One of the lists I belong to is fond of the reference...non paternity event:) That sounds a bit better:) Erica Carver

Waycross Journal-Herald Nov. 2, 2005 Is this Buddy Raulerson connected to Russell Raulerson b. 1815 family? Man Who Stabbed Buddy Raulerson, Of Blackshear, Gets Long Jail Term BLACKSHEAR < A negotiated plea and sentencing in Pierce County Superior Court Tuesday resulted in a life prison sentence for a man accused of attacking a Blackshear man, said District Attorney Rick Currie. Jamie Lang Lewis, 34, entered a guilty plea Tuesday morning for the June 24, 2004 armed robbery, kidnapping and stabbing attack of William "Buddy" Raulerson, 80, of Blackshear, Currie said. Lawmen said the men were neighbors and that Lewis knocked on Raulerson's door to ask if he could use his washing machine. Once inside Raulerson's house, he stabbed and robbed him, leaving him for dead. But Raulerson crawled out onto his porch and fired a shotgun blast which alerted his neighbors, who called for help. Lewis was sentenced by Superior Court Chief Judge Stephen L. Jackson to life in prison on the armed robbery charge, 20 years on the aggravated battery charge, 20 years for kidnapping, 20 years for burglary and two 10-year terms for theft of a vehicle, each the maximum allowed by law, Currie said. "He was a particularly dangerous individual with a serious drug habit," said George E. Barnhill, chief assistant DA, who handled the prosecution of the case for the state. "He had been in prison six times prior to this happening," he said. "I feel sure if Mr. Raulerson had known Lewis's prior record or about his drug problem, he would have taken far more precautions before trying to help Lewis out. Hopefully, with this sentence, Jamie Lang Lewis will not present a threat to our community in the foreseeable future." "I would like to especially thank Special Agent Tom Crawford of the GBI and Detective Ramsey Bennett of the Pierce County Sheriff's Department for the time and effort they put into this case," said Barnhill. "This was one of the more serious crimes we have had in Pierce County over the last few years and without their efforts, we would not have been in this position we were to work out this plea. We had put a lot of work into this case and were prepared to try it. Lewis knew this. And he chose to enter the plea." From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh

Well one of them from these parts of GA ended up down in Polk and DeSota Co. Florida............................................. I found a cemetery out in the middle of an orange grove. I had to get directions for this one, and thought I was lost once and turned around and went back to the store to ask someone, she said oh no...........................just keep going you can't miss the iron marked posts at the gate where you turn left and then start counting trees down to get to the right row to drive down between to get to the clearing where the cemetery is at! And bless my sole there it was! I took toombstone photos of them all. I can tell you this: This bunch buried there connects into my Lee tree! Lets' see James Lee b. 1790 and Cinderella Sellars Some of their kids married Taylors who went to North Florida and kept going and some of them also married Albrittons and anyway I found a whole bunch of them down in Florida in that hidden cemetery and at the Gandy Cemetery in Polk Co. FL. Later, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" <raindancer1961@yahoo.com> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift > Gail, > I thank you for what you have provided on the Thrifts and > extended.........I have copied and pasted to a word document, so I can > sort it all out later.........whew.......... > I have 5 Thomas Albrittons in my database. > Sheila > > Gail Moore <embracer@pineland.net> wrote: > Ok > Robert Thomas Thrift b. May 8, 1833 d. March 3, 1916 was as I said a son > of > Carr William and Unity Thrift.............this is the lady that Olivia > thinks may have been an Albritton woman.............but don't go quoting > that as this is just a thought right now! > Back to the book stuff........................................ > > Carr William Thrift was a son of Robert and ___________ person of > Washington > Co. > > Carr W. Thrift was born in Washington Co., GA in 1808. He was probably the > first child born to Robert Thrift. > Around 1830 Carr married his first wife, Unity. She was born in 1804 and > died about 1855. > Carr and Unity moved with Carr's brothers and sister, to Tattnall Co. in > 1838. Carr later settled across the Canoochee River in Bulloch Co. > In the fall of 1840. Carr and his family moved to Ware Co. with his > brother > Leroy and John. Carr shortly after this move settled on Cow House Island > in > the Okefenokee Swamp. He was living here when Unity died of cancer in > 1855. > Carr and Unity had: > Robert Thomas "Bob" b. 1833 m. Allie Albritton > Sarah "Sallie" b. 1834 m. William J. Albritton > Laney b. 1836 m. Gideon Jones > Mary Ann "Polly" b. 1838 m. Thomas Albritton > Leroy J. b. 1841 m. Zilpha Hogan > Martha A. b. 1842 m. Noah albritton > Margaret b. 1844 m. Peter Griffin > William Owen b. 1852 m. Sarah Pittman. > > Then about 1860 Carr married Lydia Partin, b. April 1840 d. abt. 1905? > daughter of Robert and Becky Partin. Lydia had helped nurse Unity during > her illness. > > In the late 1860's Carr moved his family to the westside of the Swamp near > Suwannee Creek. He settled on land lot #470 in the 12th land dist. Carr > was living here when he died about 1885. He was buried on Cow House > Island. Supposed beside his first wife, Unity. > > After Carr's death, Lydia married James F. Jones on Aug. 21, 1890. Mr. > Jones had come to GA with F.C. Gore {Wilcie Janes' husband} from N.C. A > few > years after their marriage, Mr. Jones, accidentally killed himself while > hunting. He was climbing over a fence when his gun fired, killing him. > Lydia, later lived in Clinch Co. and finally, in FL. with her daughter > Wilcie Jane. Lydia died about 1905? while living in FL. She was brought > back to Ware Co. and buried in Mt. Pleasant Cemetery. > > Carr and Lydia's kids were: > Elizabeth b. 1861 m. James Fullwood > Gideon b. 1863 m. Sarah Etta Steedley > Peter b. 1864 m. Elizabeth Steedley > Joseph b. 1866 died young > Nancy b. 1868 m. Woodson Graddy > Wilcy Jane b. 1871 m. F.C. Gore > Matilda b. 1873 m. Mathew C Kight > > Ok then back from there > > Robert T. Thrift b. 1772? d. 1837 Forefather of the GA Thrifts > > Robert Thomas Thrift was born between 1770 and 1775 in Fairfax Co. VA. He > was born during a time of great unrest in America; an Unrest that resulted > in the American Revolutionary War. He grew to manhood here, enjoying the > benefits fand privileges afforded the landed gentry of the period. > On Sept. 14, 1796, Robert's daddy George deeded him three tracts of land. > One tract containing 708 acres, one for 248 acres and one for 200 acres. > Robert left VA and moved to GA somewhere between 1797 and 1804. Since the > 1800 census was destroyed when the British burned the U.S. capitol in 1814 > during the war of 1812. Roberts residence at that time is unknown. {By > this > for those who don't know GA and VA censuses were destroyed and are not > available to us There is an 1800 but the States are very limited in which > to search that survived the times!} > The earliest evidence fo his being a GA citizen is a military commission > he > recieved from the Governor of GA in 1804. On Sept. 11, 1804, Robert > Thrift, > Gentleman was commissioned a leiutenant in the 96th {Cumming's} Militia > Dist. of Washington Co. GA. He was commissioned by Governor John Milledge > of Louisville. In 1805, Robert Thrift registered for GA's first land > lottery; he drew once, but didn't win any land. > Robert married about 1805, but because of the courthouse fires, one in > 1855 > and one in 1864 {by General Sherman}, most of Washington County's early > marriage records were destroyed. Because no other record has been found, > Robert's wife remains unknown. > About 1837 Robert acquired some land in Houston Co. and moved there. > Houston {pronounced "Howston"} Co., at this time, was known to have some > of > the richest soil in GA. Robert died in Houston Co. in the latter part of > 1837. At the time of his death, he still owned property in Washington Co. > Since he died intestate, administrators had to be appointed for his > estates > in both counties. > Shortly after his death, Robert's children moved to Tattnall Co. > Robert and his wife had six known children: > > Carr W. b. 1808 > Penelope b. 1810 > Martha b. 1814 > Twin sister to Martha b. 1814 thought to have died young > Leroy E. b. 1815 > John b. 1823 > > {It seems to me that Leroy is a very STRONG Thrift name given to children} > > So that means that Robert then goes back to > > George Thrift > In 1797, George Thrift of Fairfax Co. VA died testate. In his will were > the > names of his wife: Elizabeth Hurst Thrift, son: Robert, daughters: > Elizabeth, Mary, Sarah, Penelope and Jane. His Executors: Son Robert, John > Overall, Luke Frizel and Carr W. Lane. Witnesses: John Ball, John Ball, > Jr. and Anna Ball. Also listed were the names of 12 slaves. > > George Thrift was probably a son of Nathaniel Thrift of Richmond Co. VA > who > died in 1735 > > In 1847, George Thrift married Elizabeth Hurst daughter of John and > Elizabeth Hurst of Fairfax Co. VA. > > George was evidently a prosperous man and a large landowner. On May 30, > 1760, he bought 708 acres in Fairfax Co. from Charles Washington a brother > of George Washington {the first President of the United > States......................I am assuming but the book does not state > this} > > George and Elizabeth Hurst Thrift had: > John b. ? m. ? > Jane b. ? m. Luke Frizel > Elizabeth b. ? m. John Adams > Sarah b. ? m. John Overall > Mary b. ? m. George Minor > Penelope b. ? m. Carr W. Lane > Robert b. 1772?-1837? m. ? > > Next and last prior to George the book reads as follows > > "During the first half of the seventeenth century, there was political and > religious turmoil in Scotland and England. Because of this turmoil, many > Scots began migrating to America in the 1630's. > In 1639, James Thrift came to Jamestown, VA. In later years other Thrifts > immigrated to VA. Among these were Faith Thrift in 1666. Thomas Thrift in > 1678. Elizabeth Thrift in 1679 and Paul Thrift in 1703. Many of the early > VA Thrifts settled in Richmond and Fairfax Counties of VA." > > So there also is a jumping off point to go back even further > > This is a wonderful book that Luther did. I will forever be grateful to > him > for his work time and effort that he put into this book. > It contains photos galore and maps and old papers and all sorts of hidden > goodies > > I bought my book from Luther out from Hickox, GA at Olivia's Momma's > birthday party that we all attended on Feb. 5, 2000 > > Now I don't know about you but this book was well worth every penny I > sent.......................IF your reading Luther thank you > still........... > > It was printed by Brantley Printing Co. 1907 Brunel Street > Waycross, GA 31501 > Or Luther may still have copies to sell I don't know. > > The reason for including this is only this: > I can not and will not type up this entire book, I have only touched the > surface of what it contains........................................ > > On almost every name shown with a listed marriage there is more BIOS in > this > book! > > I don't want to sound upset that also is not the point, but what I am > saying > is that some of you, who fall into line with this book may want to try and > either visit a library which has this book to copy the pages off that you > need, or try and contact Luther and buy a copy or e-mail me with > > Very specific.....................folks that you need. > > I will do my best to get copies out to you, but depending of amount of > paper > and ink and such and with the cost of the mail these days I may have to > ask > for a cost of postage and copy ONLY > > This is one of many books that I have bought and now own. > > I also have the History of Pierce Co. > Yankee David and Sarah Altman are in there! > My gosh this stuff is FUN > > Olivia it seems like forever ago that I did that Research down in Florida > on > the Albrittons > > I can't remember now, is this the Thomas Albritton the same man that Polly > Thrift married above or was that another Albritton named Thomas? > > Good Lord I confuse myself at times, that was a mouth full huh? > > Ok guys enjoy, Luther forgive just trying to help others, > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue & Richard Marsh" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift > > >> Hey I will take either one that you would be nice enough to put in from >> of me on this puter. >> Thanks, >> Sue >> > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. 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Friends and Cousins, Do the rest of you find this term 'hard to hear'? "Illegitimate" I do. I typed it earlier in a 'legal' sense. I know it was a legal term, but it sounds somehow ugly when talking about another human being. Maybe I'm just a sentimental fool. <grins> How do y'all note the births of those who were born outside of marriage in your genealogy? Sharon

Wait, wait! It that Silas C. Johns b. 1849? I need everything on him too as all I have is his dob and his parents, Jeremiah and Louisa . . . Geesh, I knew you guys would get me going! Tracey K Gail Moore wrote: > I found him, she was needing William Riley Johns! > As he was the one who married Sarah Leigh > > And I am not real sure just yet still digging through papers and such, > but I think that this is the Sarah Leigh that followed her brother to > Florida and lived there for a while in Hamilton Co. > > I have to finish going over the stuff my friend in Florida Mr. Moody > sent to me! > > And yep I did say it MOODY > Another GAWARE surname.................................lol > > Sarah Leigh was his GG something or other Grandmother! > > And Grannie said we are kin to the Moodys and I have not yet found > that link.................. > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" > <oliviamullis@carolina.rr.com> > To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift > > >> Gail, >> >> My Walker grandmother had a brother named John Riley Johns. Son of >> Silas C and Tempie Rowell Johns. >> >> Olivia >>

Don't know the correct answer for that question. Some say it was a nick name some say it was just a typo................I keep checking the back of the new books as they come out to see if a correction was ever found or made................so far nothing different on this! What I do a lots of times is this, depending on the timeframe that is. I take what I see. Then I try and find it on the census myself! With my own eyes. OR in some other document if it gets back into the "Talley folks" That is what I call the US Censuses where a lot of folks were just a little talley mark..............................they did not count as a human just a little talley was all........................lol I got a bunch of good stuff from Mr. Moody. But am still trying to weed through it all............................ I am trying to find out if the John Lee brother to Sarah Leigh {sic} Is the same John Lee as in John Lee or Ware Co. GA or not! If that John Lee is the same as the John Lee who had the Sister Sarah Leigh.....................then Mr. Moody has stuff that can help a lot of us on this list! I do plan to announce what I find on this list Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadri" <shadri@gtcom.net> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: [GAWARE] Re: LEIGH-JOHNS > Gail, > > Thanks for sharing the LEIGH-JOHNS info. I saw this wife of William Riley > JOHNS listed as Sallie LEIGH in POWG, do you know if Sallie was a nick, or > just a typo? > > I am connected thru the illegitmate daughter of Elizabeth LEE & James > Joyce > LEIGH or belived to be his daughter I should say. Rachel LEE the dau. > > Sharon > > > snipped for mercy LOL! >>Ok Tracey: > Found Riley and Sarah Leigh > The reason I did not find them earlier is this: > His full name was William "Riley" Johns > Gail< > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Bill, I have absolutely nothing on the DAVIS family. I would love anything you might share on this grandmother's family. Sharon Obediah O'Steen was the son of William O'Steen, R. S. and Elizabeth Davis. I believe Elizabeth to be the sister of my Samuel Davis. His line includes a good portion of the Davis families in the St Marys bend area. Bill

I went to school with a bunch of O'Steen's their parents were said to have moved to Florida from GA. Their parents sold fishing bait and the father was also a local farmer grew vegetables and such....................................... As the boys grew up and got old enough they got part time jobs. A couple of them worked at the local supermarket which had a butcher shop on site. One of the boys learned to be a butcher right there in that store from the man who owned the store. But I could not tell you for the life of me who the parents of these kids were now! I use to know them all so well but they are now long gone. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadri" <shadri@gtcom.net> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] MIMS - OSTEEN > Sheila, > > I have never seen this name for Obediah. I am excited to know if you've > given me something new here. I've only ever seen "Obediah Osteen" Is this > his full name? If so, do you know the source for it? > > Yes, this is the same family. Mary Ann "Pollie" Osteen is my > great-great-great-grandmother. > > Sharon > > Sharon, > Would that Mary O'Steen be Mary Ann "Pollie" O'Steen, daughter of William > Edward Obediah O'Steen (1782-1816) and Sarah Unknown? I have a list of 5 > O'Steen children for William and Sarah, including Mary. > Just wondering. > Sheila > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Well, tell me more about this William Riley Johns that married Sarah Leigh? I have 3 William Riley Johns in my file but not him. William Riley b. 1908 William Riley b. 1910 William Riley b. 1867 How does he fit into the Johns' family? Thanks, Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh

Barb, Here is the other family you named. Sharon 1 William Ammons, # 1774 - 1829 b: Abt. 1774 in South Carolina d: 1829 in Wayne County, Georgia .. +Elizabeth Tyson? 1781 - 1850 aka: Lizzie m: in South Carolina b: 1781 in South Carolina d: Aft. 1850 in Wayne County, Georgia ......... 2 Delitha Ammons 1797 - b: Abt. 1797 in Bulloch County, Georgia ............. +Evan Jones m: October 25, 1810 ......... 2 Wright Ammons 1799 - 1824 b: Abt. 1799 d: April 21, 1824 ......... 2 Jane Ammons 1805 - 1870 b: Abt. 1805 in Bulloch County, Georgia d: 1870 .................... 3 James B. Ammons 1827 - 1870 b: Abt. 1827 in Wayne County, Georgia d: July 22, 1870 in McDonough, Henry County, Georgia ........................ +Catherine Robinson 1830 - b: April 05, 1830 .................... 3 Jane Elizabeth Ammons 1833 - 1899 b: November 11, 1833 in Wayne County, Georgia d: July 08, 1899 in Folkston, Charlton County, Georgia .................... 3 Litha Ammons 1843 - b: Abt. 1843 ........................ +Berry Morgan .................... 3 Lorena Ammons 1848 - b: Abt. 1848 ........................ +Unknown Lereny .................... 3 Hanes B. Ammons ......... 2 Nancy Ammons 1807 - b: Abt. 1807 in Bulloch County, Georgia ............. +John Kelly m: January 21, 1828 ......... 2 Allen Ammons 1810 - b: Abt. 1810 in Bulloch County, Georgia ............. +Malinda Bennett 1820 - b: Abt. 1820 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Thomas Jefferson Ammons 1856 - 1927 b: August 15, 1856 in Berrien County, Georgia d: August 15, 1927 in Winter Park, Orange County, Florida ........................ +Lousianna J. Deas 1864 - 1939 m: October 14, 1880 in Live Oak, Suwannee County, Florida b: August 22, 1864 in Lake City, Columbia County, Florida d: January 04, 1939 in Winter Park, Orange County, Florida .................... 3 Missouri Ammons 1858 - b: Abt. 1858 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Josephine Ammons 1860 - b: Abt. 1860 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Daniel Morgan Ammons 1862 - b: Abt. 1862 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Rebecca Ammons 1864 - b: Abt. 1864 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Allen Ammons, Jr. 1866 - b: Abt. 1866 .................... 3 Georgia Ann Ammons 1868 - b: Abt. 1868 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Malinda Ammons 1870 - b: Abt. 1870 in Berrien County, Georgia ........................ +G. T. Worley m: July 04, 1889 in Suwannee County, Florida .................... 3 Minny Ammons 1872 - b: Abt. 1872 in Berrien County, Georgia .................... 3 Mary A. Elizabeth Ammons 1836 - 1909 b: August 04, 1836 in Georgia d: July 09, 1909 in Suwannee County, Florida ........................ +William Jasper Tison 1845 - m: September 02, 1866 in Berrien County, Georgia b: August 1845 in Georgia ......... 2 Mary Ammons 1816 - b: Abt. 1816 in Bulloch County, Georgia ......... 2 Jemima Ammons 1818 - b: Abt. 1818 in Fort Wayne, Wayne County, Georgia ............. +Daniel Herrin m: January 08, 1838

Thank you Gail, thet's just what I needed. Funny thing . . . the sudden activity of the group . . . I've kinda taken a hiatus from intense research, just reading subject lines, filing emails in my folders to look at later, following up on only the highest priority primary lines . . . then, pretty much out of the blue, I ran across my deceased husband's uncle (also deceased, naturally!), who I have been seeking for quite a while. It was on a birth-parent search site. It seems that the grandaughter of this man had taken it upon herself to find her father's birth-parents . . . my husbands uncle was this man's adopted father . . . follow me so far? So, I emailed her, re-introduced myself to that branch of the family (hubby's been gone for 12 years!), and she gave me some info on her grandfather . . . His name was Bill Culbreath, and he was a Judge in Miami-Dade Co., FL. I was always under the impression that he was William Culbreath, could never find a trace. Then she tells me that he was WINFRED Culbreath! One search on World Connect and BINGO, where do I find him? In the JOHNS family database!! Now, I know I have JOHNS in my OWN family tree, so I've been filing all the messages on the Ware site to look at later . . . How weird is this? My husbands uncle is buried in my own family tree! Actually, I have come to the conclusion that in the South, go back far enough and we're all inter-related! I found that to be true in my own paternal grandparents . . . One from Barbour Co., AL, one from Wayne Co., GA . . . they crossed about 5 generations back in Alabama! So anyway, Just wanted to share that useless bit of info/story with the group, and add to the awesome activity of the group that I now have to filter to keep my inbox clear! Tracey K Proud Member of 57 Rootsweb lists! (and about 40 others . . .) Watauga Co., NC Researching: Miller, Knight, Mott, Goodbread, and all allied surnames and also: Edwards, Flentge, Perry, Hanscom and allied (my husbands) "The woman who thinks she is intelligent demands equal rights with men. A woman who is intelligent does not." - Sidonie Gabrielle Colette

Barb, If you've been gone a few days...you got a lot of catching up to do. LOL! Sharon Here is the family you named in your mail. 1 John Ammons 1760 - 1852 b: Abt. 1760 in North Carolina d: 1852 in Wayne County, Georgia .. +Jemima 1770 - 1852 m: in Orangeburg District, South Carolina b: 1770 in South Carolina d: Aft. 1852 in Wayne County, Georgia ......... 2 Sarah Ammons 1796 - b: 1796 in Orangeburg District, South Carolina ............. +William Warner m: July 05, 1819 ......... 2 Elizabeth Ammons 1802 - b: 1802 ............. +Jacob Highsmith, Jr. 1799 - m: March 17, 1826 b: Abt. 1799 in Pitt County, North Carolina ......... 2 Pollie Ammons 1805 - b: 1805 in Orangeburg District, South Carolina ......... 2 John J. Ammons 1810 - b: 1810 in Orangeburg District, South Carolina ............. +Ludicy Lewis 1817 - m: September 01, 1836 b: Abt. 1817 in North Carolina .................... 3 Elizabeth Kelly Ammons 1835 - b: Abt. 1835 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 Jessie Ammons 1840 - b: Abt. 1840 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 John Ammons 1844 - b: Abt. 1844 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 William Ammons 1846 - b: Abt. 1846 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 James Ammons 1848 - b: Abt. 1848 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 Ludicy Ammons 1850 - b: Abt. 1850 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 Reuben Ammons 1854 - b: Abt. 1854 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 Milly Ammons 1855 - b: Abt. 1855 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 Marion Ammons 1858 - b: Abt. 1858 in Wayne County, Georgia .................... 3 Jemima Ammons 1860 - b: Abt. 1860 in Wayne County, Georgia ......... 2 William Ammons 1812 - b: 1812 in Wayne County, Georgia ............. +Sloca Campbell 1816 - m: June 28, 1854 b: Abt. 1816 in Wayne County, Georgia ......... *2nd Wife of William Ammons: ............. +Mary Ann Kelly m: November 24, 1869 in Wayne County, Georgia ......... 2 Jemima Ammons 1818 - b: 1818 ............. +Elijah Townsend >I have a Elizabeth Ammons who married a Jacob Highsmith she was born 1802. >I have a Jemimia Ammons married a Daniel Herrin she was born 1818. Her >parents were John Ammons and Jamima ?. That is a start. I have been away a >few days and trying to catch up. LOL. Barb<

Obediah O'Steen was the son of William O'Steen, R. S. and Elizabeth Davis. I believe Elizabeth to be the sister of my Samuel Davis. His line includes a good portion of the Davis families in the St Marys bend area. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "shadri" <shadri@gtcom.net> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] MIMS - OSTEEN > Sheila, > > I have never seen this name for Obediah. I am excited to know if you've > given me something new here. I've only ever seen "Obediah Osteen" Is this > his full name? If so, do you know the source for it? > > Yes, this is the same family. Mary Ann "Pollie" Osteen is my > great-great-great-grandmother. > > Sharon > > Sharon, > Would that Mary O'Steen be Mary Ann "Pollie" O'Steen, daughter of William > Edward Obediah O'Steen (1782-1816) and Sarah Unknown? I have a list of 5 > O'Steen children for William and Sarah, including Mary. > Just wondering. > Sheila > > > ==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== > GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html > GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by your Internet Service Provider] > > >

Sheila and Olivia, This is a spot that I am really confused about. This is what I have in my file, but it can't be correct. Maybe the two of you can get me straightened out. I have Silas C. Johns (1849-1881) m. Temperance Rowell (1863-1949) with 3 children, but they can't be for I have them born after the death date of Silas. Emma b. 1884, Kizzie Matilda b. 1886, Rufus b. 1890. Please help me. Thanks, Sue From the Desktop of Sue & Richard Marsh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" <oliviamullis@carolina.rr.com> To: <GAWARE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Re: Johns > > > shelia, > > I show John Riley Johns as the son of Silas c. and Tempie. Nancy Chancy > shows up as Mrs. Nancy Chancy and she died in childbirth. Tomorrow I'll > look up theinfor on Silas and let you know. Silas C had severral wives. > I'm suspious that he was married before hewas married to my grandmother. > I have not been able to find out who Mrs.Nancy Chancy is. Silas C died > in 1924 and is buried in Brandywine cemetery next to hislasrt wife. > > Olivia > > Rd C wrote: > >>Olivia, >>I have John Riley Johns as the son of Silas C. Johns and Nancy Chancy? >>Did I pick up something in error? I only have her name, Nancy Chancy, but >>I have two children listed for her and Silas C. Johns, John Riley Johns >>(b. 1901) and Mary Johns (b. 1902). Please let me know something. Thanks >>Sheila >> >>Olivia Mullis <oliviamullis@carolina.rr.com> wrote: >>Gail, >> >>My Walker grandmother had a brother named John Riley Johns. Son of Silas C >>and Tempie Rowell Johns. >> >>Olivia >> >>Gail Moore wrote: >> >> >>>Yes I know that's what I mean we both know he does good >>>work.................that was what I was trying to tell them. >>>He even signed my book, that I bought that day. >>>How is your Momma these days? >>> >>>I was trying to help them see that there were two men named John Leroy >>>Thrift. >>> >>>Just like the Riley Johns thing, I want to help her but I have to figure >>>out which of the three Rileys' she is after. >>> >>>Gail >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Olivia Mullis" >>>To: Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:47 PM >>>Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift >>> >>> >>> >>>>Gail, >>>> >>>>Don't you remember meeting Luther at Mamma's birthday party? That's who >>>>J. L. Thrift is. He's our cousin. >>>> >>>>Olivia >>>> >>>>Gail Moore wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>According to the book "The Thrifts of Okefinokee" by J.L. Thrift >>>>>on page 56 it lists as a child of >>>>>John Leroy Thirft and Lucretia M. Johns >>>>>Child #5 is Robert Lesley b. Dec. 12, 1908 d. May 31, 1946 m. Pauline >>>>>Johnson >>>>>According to this bio >>>>>John and Lieu as they called her are both buried in David Hickox >>>>>Cemetery near Hoboken. >>>>> >>>>>The Thrifts in this book are NOT indexed..................so did he >>>>>marry to someone else other than Pauline Johnson that I can check to >>>>>see if perhaps this book has more on him elsewhere in the book? >>>>> >>>>>Gail >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rd C" To: Sent: Tuesday, November >>>>>01, 2005 3:35 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: [GAWARE] Thrift >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Sue, >>>>>>According to the "Cemeteries and More" cemetery book for Brantley >>>>>>County, GA , Edition 2, May 2002, page viii, New Hope is sometimes >>>>>>refereed to as the Hickox Church--not to be confused with the Dave >>>>>>Hickox Cemetery near Hoboken. I know that some people in the >>>>>>Hickox/Bachlott area still refer to the New Hope Cemetery as the >>>>>>Hickox Cemetery because it is located in the community of Hickox. >>>>>>But according to this same book, both listed that you posted are >>>>>>entered in to this book exactly as you listed. They both list the same >>>>>>parents and the same dates of birth and death, the only difference >>>>>>that I can see is that the Robert Lesley Thrift also lists a spouse, >>>>>>Pauline Johnson............. >>>>>>Sorry, I looked, I tried, but I don't know if they are one in the >>>>>>same, twins, or someones error in printing. >>>>>>Sheila >>>>>> >>>>>>Sue & Richard Marsh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>There is a Robert Lesley Thrift b. 12 Dec. 1908 d. 31 Mar. 1946 buried >>>>>>Dave Hickox Cemetery, Brantley Co. >>>>>> >>>>>>Also a Lesley Thrift b. 12 Dec. 1908 d. 31 Mar. 1946 buried New Hope >>>>>>Cemetery, Brantley Co. >>>>>>Are they the same person, and if they are which cemetery should he be >>>>>>buried? >>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>Sue >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>From the Desktop of >>>>>>> >>>>>>Sue & Richard Marsh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== GAWARE Mailing List ==== >>>>>>GAWARE Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/GA/ware.html >>>>>>GAWARE GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaware/ >>>>>> >>>>>>============================== >>>>>>Search the US Census Collection. 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There are a number of the MIMS lines that connect. ~~~~~~~~ I'm sorry Sharon, as much as I would like to make another family connection with you, none of these names look familiar. The Mims I am speaking of (and their collateral lines) stayed around Apppling, Jeff Davis and Bacon counties. Can anyone give directions to the Mims church in Norhtern Bacon County?? And, is there a cemetery??? I'm willing to go survey the cemetery (and I live in Callahan, FL) and post it on the Bacon County, GA AHGP web page if someone can tell me how to get there. Thanks Sherry http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacoffee American History & Genealogy Project (AHGP) Coffee County, GA http://www.rootsweb.com/~gabacon2/bacon_index.htm American History & Genealogy Project (AHGP) Bacon County, GA http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaapplin/appling_index.htm American History & Genealogy Project (AHGP) Appling County, GA