Does anyone out there know who WHR Stone b. 1 March 1826 and died 3 Feb 1910 married? I believe her first name was Emma, but do not know her maiden name or the date of their marriage. Thanks for any help Nancy

I'm just a crabby so an so and I do apologize. I just hate it when people deny me access to history and I've already been through this battle Access to Cemeteries is covered under the right of way laws in Georgia. In other states is it actually covered under cemetery laws. Also in Georgia you have an ally in the Secretary of State. They MUST protect the cemeteries. Here are some of the references: The county or Municipality MUST upkeep cemeteries 36-72-3 G *** CODE SECTION *** 10/15/99 36-72-3. Counties, anywhere within the county boundaries, and municipalities, anywhere within the municipal boundaries, are authorized, jointly and severally, to preserve and protect any abandoned cemetery or any burial ground which the county or municipality determines has been abandoned or is not being maintained by the person who is legally responsible for its upkeep, whether or not that person is financially capable of doing so, to expend public money in connection therewith, to provide for reimbursement of such funds by billing any legally responsible person or levying upon any of his property as authorized by local ordinance, and to exercise the power of eminent domain to acquire any interest in land necessary for that purpose. Here is an FYI: 44-3-139 G *** CODE SECTION *** 10/15/99 44-3-139. (a) The administration of the provisions of this article shall be vested in the Secretary of State, who may delegate such of his powers and duties under this article to a division director of his office as he shall deem appropriate. (b) The Secretary of State shall keep a record of all proceedings related to his duties under this article and shall keep a register in which shall be entered the names of all cemeteries to whom certificates of registration are issued, which register shall be open at all times for public inspection. The Secretary of State needs to know about the cemeteries that are in disrepair as well as the local municipalities. Quote them the law 36-72-3 if they don't already know it. It is their responsibility to maintain our history! Here are some the Trespass Laws: 32-6-110 G *** CODE SECTION *** 10/15/99 32-6-110. As used in this article, the term "local service road" means any public road, whether existing at the time of the designation of a limited-access road or established thereafter, which serves the owner or occupant of any land or improvements abutting a limited-access road and which gives a means of ingress to and egress from any such lands or improvements. 32-6-113 G *** CODE SECTION *** 10/15/99 32-6-113. Limited-access roads may be so designed as to regulate, restrict, or prohibit access thereto so as to best serve the traffic for which such facility is intended. The authority designating and establishing any limited-access road is authorized to divide and separate such highway into separate roadways by the construction of raised curbings, central dividing sections, or other physical separations or by designating such separate roadways by signs, markers, or stripes; to designate the proper lanes for traffic moving in opposite directions; and to prohibit the making of turns at specified points. The designating authority may recommend to the commissioner of public safety or, if the roads in question are in a municipality, to the municipality that there be fixed on such roads and on the separate lanes thereof such rates of speed as are deemed in the public interest. No person shall have any right of ingress to or egress from or passage across any limited-access road to or from abutting lands except at the designated points to which access may be permitted and under such arrangements and conditions as may be specified from time to time. 51-9-10 G *** CODE SECTION *** 10/15/99 51-9-10. The unlawful interference with a right of way or a right of common constitutes a trespass to the party entitled thereto. They can't stop you from viewing a cemetery because there had to have been a right of way to the site originally. The county can tell you exactly where the access is or was and you CAN use it. You also have another option in your State Senator. That's where I went when I had problems. They quote the law beautifully and MAKE whoever is impeding your access comply. They are also available to make "suggestions" to the Secretary of State when you find a cemetery in disrepair! We have had much success. Don't ever let ANYONE stop you from finding out about your ancestors we MUST keep them alive, valued and treasured! ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJAutry@aol.com> To: <pkramer@ppkenter.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [GAWALTON] Re: Cemetery Access / Egress > Pam, if you will provide me with the section and item numbers, I will be > happy to look at the Georgia Laws concerning cemetery access, and to amend my > reply to Faye and the group. > > Again, I have done searches of the Georgia Official Code, and can not find > the references to which you are referring. > > Tricia >

Please go look at the Laws in Georgia before you make remarks like that. People have had access to cemeteries Nationwide and there ARE laws protecting the rights of people to view their ancestors. Regardless of who you think the "enemy" is there are laws on the books that allows for even disputing siblings to have access to graves. I suggest you start at http://www.findlaw.com/ and read up on the Law. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJAutry@aol.com> To: <GAWALTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: [GAWALTON] Re: Cemetery Access / Egress > In a message dated 4/9/00 10:31:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, FayePoss writes: > > << There is one that we may have problems getting to. Believe it or not - > this is at the back of a business location, but we'll figure out something! > > This brings up a related issue - there should be some type law granting > ingress and egress to get to cemeteries, using existing roads or byways. If > you have an ancester buried somewhere, you should at least have the right to > visit their grave! I >> > > > For the business, I would ask to speak to the manager, and failing their > cooperation, to the owner. Depending on the current use of the property, > there may be safety reasons for not wanting people to go to view the graves. > If you ask the manager to accompany you while you are "back there", it might > make things easier. You might also offer to sign a release of liability just > in case you get hurt "back there". Generally businesses are concerned about > their liability. > > I doubt that you will ever get laws controlling the public use of private > property. We all hear of cases where families have split apart after the > death of parents, etc., and after the split they surely are not willing to > allow "the enemy" on their property. Especially when one child has inherited > the family homestead, buried the parents or grandparents somewhere on the > property, and then had a falling out with their siblings. That is how family > fueds are kept going. There are no courts that will force people to open > their property to people they are fighting with. >

In a message dated 4/9/00 10:31:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, FayePoss writes: << There is one that we may have problems getting to. Believe it or not - this is at the back of a business location, but we'll figure out something! This brings up a related issue - there should be some type law granting ingress and egress to get to cemeteries, using existing roads or byways. If you have an ancester buried somewhere, you should at least have the right to visit their grave! I >> For the business, I would ask to speak to the manager, and failing their cooperation, to the owner. Depending on the current use of the property, there may be safety reasons for not wanting people to go to view the graves. If you ask the manager to accompany you while you are "back there", it might make things easier. You might also offer to sign a release of liability just in case you get hurt "back there". Generally businesses are concerned about their liability. I doubt that you will ever get laws controlling the public use of private property. We all hear of cases where families have split apart after the death of parents, etc., and after the split they surely are not willing to allow "the enemy" on their property. Especially when one child has inherited the family homestead, buried the parents or grandparents somewhere on the property, and then had a falling out with their siblings. That is how family fueds are kept going. There are no courts that will force people to open their property to people they are fighting with.

Thanks very much for such a prompt response - and that was definitely the info needed! Of course we'll be getting permission to survey any cemeteries on private property. There is one that we may have problems getting to. Believe it or not - this is at the back of a business location, but we'll figure out something! This brings up a related issue - there should be some type law granting ingress and egress to get to cemeteries, using existing roads or byways. If you have an ancester buried somewhere, you should at least have the right to visit their grave! I think almost everybody would ask the landowner for permission to cross their property before visiting a grave - even if there were such a law granting ingress & egress. Faye > From: PJAutry > To: FayePoss, GAWALTON-L@rootsweb.com > > << Just wondering if anybody knows the law regarding rights of ingress and > egress to cemeteries. We'll be tramping around a few places where there > Is the cemetery on private property, or on property, like a church, which > could be considered open to the public? > > Those cemeteries on private property should be treated as if they were > private homes. If the owner does not want those cemeteries looked at, I > doubt that anything short of a court order would force the owner to open > their property to the project. I also doubt that a court would grant such an > order. > > For church cemeteries, talking to someone in the church office should be > enough. There the property is private, but generally the public is welcome.

In a message dated 4/9/00 10:05:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, FayePoss@aol.com writes: << Just wondering if anybody knows the law regarding rights of ingress and egress to cemeteries. We'll be tramping around a few places where there are cemeteries in backyards or woods on our upcoming Walton Co. cemetery project. Most people are very cooperative about surveying cemeteries, but there is one known place where we might have a problem. Do we have any attorney or someone else in our midst that could tell us if we have any rights in this respect? >> Is the cemetery on private property, or on property, like a church, which could be considered open to the public? Those cemeteries on private property should be treated as if they were private homes. If the owner does not want those cemeteries looked at, I doubt that anything short of a court order would force the owner to open their property to the project. I also doubt that a court would grant such an order. For church cemeteries, talking to someone in the church office should be enough. There the property is private, but generally the public is welcome.

Just wondering if anybody knows the law regarding rights of ingress and egress to cemeteries. We'll be tramping around a few places where there are cemeteries in backyards or woods on our upcoming Walton Co. cemetery project. Most people are very cooperative about surveying cemeteries, but there is one known place where we might have a problem. Do we have any attorney or someone else in our midst that could tell us if we have any rights in this respect? Faye > For our upcoming projects: Populated Places, & Surrounding County > Cemeteries, we're just going to post names of cemeteries, but probably > not all in the other counties. It may be just within a 30 mile > radius??, or something to that effect. >

Hi all, Whew! What a day! I think we're finally getting our home remodelling/Spring cleaning project under control, & almost ready for our carpet to be laid on Thursday! I never knew that my hubby & I didn't get along that well either!! haha I would've written this yesterday evening, but when there's bad weather around, I turn my pc off! I may have some sporadic online behavior, as I don't know how long my pc will be disconnected, due to installing the carpet, painting, etc. I should be online some tomorrow & a good bit on Monday, so if after that you don't hear from me, you'll know why! If there's any "problems", Gen Sis, Dot COX, or Jenniefer, should be able to help you. They usually help when I have other stuff going, but I didn't ask specifically this time--hope they will still help???? To our newbies, go ahead & post some info on your lines (oldies too). Send to: GAWALTON-L@rootsweb.com Got questions? Send those too! If you're bashful, send to me! We'll find those answers! For those of you that have asked, there's been no word from "Gen-Kid" Jennifer on what the outcome of the child custody case was. Jennifer, if you're there, write & let us know, ok? For our upcoming projects: Populated Places, & Surrounding County Cemeteries, we're just going to post names of cemeteries, but probably not all in the other counties. It may be just within a 30 mile radius??, or something to that effect. We need to stay away from posting items that come from copyrighted sources, especially brand new ones. A short time ago I added this "Special Note" to our home page: (at the bottom) http://www.rootsweb.com/~gawalton/ >>>SPECIAL NOTE: If you should see anything on this site pertaining to your privacy, such as pictures, names, pieces of your own research, or any other item (including articles you may have written) that you feel should remain private and should not be shown on this site, please send an E-Mail describing such items with verification of who you are and how such items relate to you, & it will be determined if it should be deleted from this site. Our desire is to have a site that is satisfactory & beneficial to everyone! <<< So this certainly includes all "Gen-Kids"! Whenever you send info for web pages, & mail list, please site your source, if at all possible. I feel it is most important to give credit where credit is due & I'm sure you do too. To Dot & Faye: I received my ID card today too, & my 4-generation chart form to fill in! I'll probably be awhile on that! I wish ya'll luck Faye, & ya'll are doing a great job! I know someone asked about my address for sending census donations, but my weary eyes just can't find the emails, so here goes: Bettie WOOD 46 Chapparral Tatum, TX 75691 The census project has gone very well, I think! The 1840 was another one of my "freebies", & meant to surprise ya'll, but I blabbed! At this time, I can't remember any other new stuff on our web site. All the marriages ya'll sent in, unless I missed some somewhere, are done. I think I missed uploading the rest of the brides, due to storms?? or something. Be sure & send me your info to add, whatever it is. I do not add anything to our web page without your permission first. This means if you want your surnames added, you have to contact me. Don't worry about me having "to much to do", cause I'll just print it out, & save it until I do have time. It usually takes just a few days, depending on the info I have to add. I think that's all I needed to say! Have a precious weekend, Lov, Momma Walton <><

Hi Dot - As the Editor of the quarterly ... you just made my day!!! Thanks so much for the good comments! We're trying to concentrate on putting in abstracts of various county records for the 28 counties, never before abstracted (as far as we can find). There's still lots of info that is not yet in print on some of these counties ... and we're looking for it! > > I just received my membership acceptance,I.D. card & quarterly > from,"East Ga.Genealogical Society" & > find it GREAT!! Best 10.00 spent in a while!. Jim Patton is webmaster of the EGGS web site, & it is his goal to put the 4-generation chart of every member on his site. Some people may not have returned the completed charts, or maybe a few don't want them. However, if ya'll will return them, Jim will sure make them "clickable." If you don't have a blank form, I think there's one on the web site. Or you can send Jim a note at: gaeggs@email.com or jepatton@email.com > See some pals on member list & > wonder why their names aren't "clickable?" Hope mine will be soon! > Perhaps someone will enlighten me on "drawbacks" of posting link to > personal/family/genealogy page here at Ga Eggs(my nickname for EGGS) > since so many have chosen not to have clickable name to show chart of > genealogy? So new at this,all,that any "enlightment" > appreciated!!..Thanks,Dot Hunt... Dot - We're certainly glad to have you as a member! Don't know where you live, but we hope you can make our local meetings each month. The next one coming up is next Tuesday, April 11th, 7:00 PM, in Winder at the main public library. After the regular meeting and refreshments, Ted Brooke, coordinator of the new Walton Co. Cemetery project, (about 8:30 PM) will be handing out assigned territories, forms, maps, etc., & the project will have its official kickoff. Wish us good luck! Faye

I am wondering if any of you dear people might have any information on the following people: Nancy BEARDEN, born about 1836, and her husband Egbert DARBY, who were married in Walton County on 4 May 1854. And the people I believe might be her parents, Richard P BEARDEN, born in VA about 1814, listed in the 1860 census, but not in the 1870, and his wife Julia Ann / Juliann / Jaelin WARREN, born in GA about 1820. They were married in Walton County on 9 Dec 1835. She was still listed in the 1870 census. The 1860 census has the two couples living next door to each other in the Northern District of the county, and I am hoping that someone out there might have some information on either or both families. Right now all the information that I have on any of them came from the 1860 and 1870 census records. Any information you might be able to provide will be gratefully appreciated! Tricia

I just received my membership acceptance,I.D. card & quarterly from,"East Ga.Genealogical Society" & find it GREAT!! Best 10.00 spent in a while!..See some pals on member list & wonder why their names aren't "clickable?" Hope mine will be soon! Perhaps someone will enlighten me on "drawbacks" of posting link to personal/family/genealogy page here at Ga Eggs(my nickname for EGGS) since so many have chosen not to have clickable name to show chart of genealogy? So new at this,all,that any "enlightment" appreciated!!..Thanks,Dot Hunt...

Bettie, I belong to another list in which the gateway is active. A gateway is nothing more than way of porting items from one format into another, as I understand it. Once activated the mechanics of the process are transparent to the user. In our case the activation or deactivation of the GenConnect gateway is controlled by the list manager. It is either on or it is not. What happens is, when anyone posts a message to the Genconnect board or a response to a message on that board that affects your county of interest, that message and the link back URL (universal resource locator or web address) appears in a "normal" posting on say the GAWALTON-L list. If you are interested, you may explore the message and any associated threads leading to or from it.. If not delete it as you would any other message and go on about your business. It really makes one more aware of the GenConnect message board postings and the service makes it less likely that you will miss something. You could do the same thing by just checking the message boards personally every now and again. But this way, if you follow a list with the gateway active, you pretty much stay on top of both lists as you go. The disadvantages are slight. The only one I can see is that you get a few more messages. But when you think about it, messages and communication are what you joined a list for in the first place. For people who are overwhelmed with messages already, the slight addition to the number could be easily handled by converting to the digest mode e.g., GAWALTON-D where you receive the messages in a "packet" rather than continuously as posted. I like it. Walter Freeman Bettie Wood wrote: > ...Also, there's a "new deal" out by Rootsweb (do they ever sleep???) It's > called "GenConnect Gateway". If ya'll like I can turn it on... What > this does, is take any posting that's made from the GenConnect boards, & > send it to the GAWALTON list...

Hi all, Well, I've got news today! The "Gooder" news is we now have 2 more census images online. The Good news is: You have to go to our web page & look under the "Census" section to look at them! I hope to have the 1860 indexed by the end of the month???? These 2 census (censi?) leave us with just 1910 & 1920 totally unreprestented because the 1900 has been bought & 1880 has a mortality schedule. WOW, we're getting there, aren't we? Good going guys & gals! Love, Momma Walton <>< The shortest distance between a problem & a solution is the distance between your knees & the floor. The one who kneels to the Lord can STAND up to anything!

Hi all, I have an urgent request from a "Gen-Sis" Jennifer. It is a request of prayer. We have several prayer warriors out there, so PLEASE help. Here's the story: will each of you please pray for my friend ------- ------- from the time you : > receive this through tomorrow? : > She has been in a custody battle for sole custody of her daughter for almost : > 4 years... : > (the father has sexually abused them both...) : > Tomorrow is 'a" or "the" day... : > The child does not want to see her father again, and doesn't even want his : > name. : > Please pray for GOD's plan...they live in fear and frustration because the : > court has forced the daughter to visit the father at his parents' home where : > she is treated like a prisoner. She has almost missed her childhood. : > She needs some one to testify in her behalf. : > : > Jennifer Sherwood Braswell : > jensgen@iol10.com Thank you all, Momma Walton <><

Hi Momma Walton & Gang! The next issue of "Georgia Settlers" comes out the first week in May. Contents: 1. Various announcements - also lists speakers: May 9 - Major Dameon Gause speaking on the war journals of his father, Major Dameon Gause. June 13 - Howard Hancock, Reference Archivist, and 2 or 3 others Archivists will show slides and have great handouts & "take the mystery out of visiting the GA Archives." They will go into details about your trip to the Archives, from start to finish. Most beneficial for those who have not visited! July 11 - Don L. Shadburn, noted author & County Historian for Forsyth Co., and expert on Cherokee Indian lines in GA, will speak on certain Indian Countrymen & their roles in Cherokee GA leading up to the removal years of 1838-39. He has slide photos showing these "larger than life" characters in screen size prints. Sounds really fascinating! 2. County Records section includes: Elbert Co. Superior Ct. Minutes (1806-1811), pp. 1-24 Glascock Co. Marriage Book A, pp. 83-152 Madison Co. Poor School Records for 1831-32 Walton Co. Wills & Estate Records A, 1819-1827, pp. 27-55 Wilkes Co. Poor School Records for 1829 3. Book Corner - announcements & reviews 4. Queries. > The next "Georgia Settlers" is fixing to come out--in May, right? I've > asked Faye (or again, I think I did) to keep us informed on this topic & > contents of the coming issues! Isn't it wonderful--all the new info we > are getting almost daily? > Don't forget (as I have) to order your Barrow County Cemetery book. > >From what I've heard it is FANTASTIC!! There is a "Barrow Co., GA, Cemeteries" order form at the EGGS web site at: www.rootsweb.com/~gaeggs This is a really great buy at $40 postage paid, hardback over 620 pages! Glad I have my copy! Found some of my ancestors that I thought were buried in Clarke Co. You never know ... EGGS welcomes new members! Dues for 2000 are only $10 which includes the cost of the quarterly. Jim Patton, webmaster for the EGGS site, also posts a 4-generation pedigree sheet for each member who wants their pedigree posted. To join, check out the above web site & there are blank application forms for membership. Also, Momma Walton, I'm sure all of us will be sending out our prayers for Gen-Sis Jennifer! Its an awful situation, and one that shouldn't have to be tolerated! Please let us know the outcome. > I have an urgent request from a "Gen-Sis" Jennifer. It is a request of > prayer. We have several prayer warriors out there, so PLEASE help. Best wishes, Faye

Hi kiddoes, I think we've had some very interesting topics on the list lately--with the surrounding county cemeteries, & towns. I'm almost done with all these marriages--there's still a few, here & there, but when I'm done there & we get most of our remodeling out of the way, how about these projects for our web page: 1) Neighboring Counties--we could do a little more "history" on these, that could be beneficial, & give county seats, etc. 2) Populated Places--we could do some "histories" on these towns, tell some stories about them, what county they're now in, etc. 3) Cemeteries--we could include nearby cemeteries in other counties, & give names of our ancestors buried there, similar to what we've done with Walton cemeteries. I think this could be very beneficial to many of us, as the county did change so much. Give me some feed back--I can't do it without you! Well, I could, but it's OUR web page, & so much more FUN with you! The next "Georgia Settlers" is fixing to come out--in May, right? I've asked Faye (or again, I think I did) to keep us informed on this topic & contents of the coming issues! Isn't it wonderful--all the new info we are getting almost daily? Don't forget (as I have) to order your Barrow County Cemetery book. >From what I've heard it is FANTASTIC!! Also, there's a "new deal" out by Rootsweb (do they ever sleep???) It's called "GenConnect Gateway". If ya'll like I can turn it on (or think I can!haha) What this does, is take any posting that's made from the GenConnect boards, & send it to the GAWALTON list. I would, of course, like your input on this too! Ya'll are the best inputters I know, so will expect to hear from you on these different items, Ok? Now, I know most of you have sent your 2000 Federal Census questionnaires back in, right? Well, if you'd like to see a 2000 Texas (or Redneck) Census, let me know. I can send you one! Just let me know. We still only have $105 for the 1880 Walton Co. census images. We just need $135 more to purchase this one too! It's about time for the 1840 & 1860! These are due in mid April!! I'm so excited--aren't you? "Gen-Sis" Sidney is working so hard on the 1840 transcriptions! She's had several "distractions", but she's like that Energizer Bunny...Keeps goin & goin! Let's see...I believe that's all I have for now! Texas -size Love to all, Momma Walton <>< No offense to anyone, but Can atheists still buy insurance to protect against acts of God?

Does anyone have information on Hudson Gaston 1871-1920 and /or Tom Gaston 1872-1907. Both are buried in Social Circle Cem. Roy <>< RGHunter3@aol.com

Walter, you are correct regarding the break in the Methodist Episcopal Church North/South. The Bishop was James O. Andrew b. 1794 and died 1871 who was bishop from 1832 until his death. The slave was Kitty Andrew Shell who was born in 1822 and died in 185?. Interestingly, Kitty Andrew Shell is buried in the family lot of the Andrews family in the Oxford Historical Cemetery in Oxford, Ga. Just a few miles from Monroe. The exact year of death is not clear and if anyone might have information regarding that date I would love to know. BTW: Any Stones from Walton County out there? Nancy (Stone) Brown

The new Barrow County Cemetery Book is a wonderful book. It also tells of the Formation of the County, Talks about the Old Nodoroc and The Ancient Temple,Indian Burial Grounds and List all the Revolutionary War Soldiers. The reason I listed the CAMP families that are buried there is because I am researching the Camp family.   I am one of the Founding Members of the Piedmont Regional Genealogy Society which is now called "East Georgia Genealogy Society". I helped work on this book and have read a lot of the cemeteries. ~Tina~ TMAUTRY@webtv.net

Winder was in Walton County before 1914 when Barrow County was formed. Winder was called Jug Tavern. Winder was a town that was divided between Walton,Jackson and Gwinnett Counties. ~Tina~