Names can be tricky when looking at the indian rolls. Indians often had more than one "indian" name and an anglo name as well. we often know their anglo names and look for them and fail to find them. For instance, Big Witch is Joseph LONG. You will find that on the rolls. You also may want to find the native name for the word you want, such as LONG. DEBBIE ------Original Message------ From: "Mike Cummons" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: September 4, 2000 10:01:48 PM GMT Subject: [GAUNION] Indian Jones/Longs I don't know why I assumed it was the JONES, I guess because I didn't think the LONGS had Indian blood. I have heard the story of a LONG living with the Indians after he killed that man for trying to take his land. This had to be before the revolution. And I also have received some info a WILSON buying property for his Indian girlfriend so she didn't have to live on the reservation in NC. That was another shock. I just learned this info yesterday while we were out of town for a wedding and we were all sitting around the table having breakfast. My aunt said she had seen pictures of Margaret LONG WILSON's brothers and sisters and they all looked like Indians. There are also stories in my family of pictures of Indians being destroyed. I have tried to do some research in the Indian rolls today but other than a John Wilson I haven't found any LONGs or JONES. Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Woolf <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:14 PM Subject: RE: [GAUNION] Wilson/Long/Jones > Georgia, > > why do you think it's the JONEs and not LONGs with Cherokee? > > reason I ask is that there is a record of a James LONG (I think it's in > Fannin Co.) where descendants claim he was part CHerokee. If that is true, > I don't think it was through Uly CANSLER (her lines are suppose to be all > German). That would make James LONG Sr. the prime suspect....and as I > understand it, James Sr. and Levi are brothers. > > This was not common info. (the Cherokee) and maybe hard to prove. I don't > think they waited to sign up for their citizenship rights (alot did not, as > there was no trust in the Federal Government...hmm, wonder why?). > > Let me know what you think about the LONG questions. > > DEBBIE > > ------Original Message------ > From: "Mike Cummons" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: September 4, 2000 12:13:23 PM GMT > Subject: [GAUNION] Wilson/Long/Jones > > > Just learned this weekend that my grandfather, Finley Lester "Ted" WILSON > told his daughter that he was 1/8 Indian. I would imagine that would make > Ted's great grandmother, Elizabeth "Betty" Jones LONG 1/2 Indian. Betty > married Levi LONG in NC. Their daughter, Margaret, married Boyd WILSON in > Union Co, GA in 1853. > > I'm very surprised with this new information. Does anyone have any JONES > that claimed Indian blood? It's my understanding this was a well guarded > secret. > > Thanks, > Georgia Mathis Cummons > Jacksonville, FL > [email protected] > > > ==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== > The Union Co. GA 'county' forum at GenForum is NOT associated > with Union Co., GAGenWeb. > > > > > > ==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== > Reminder: queries and comments posted to the Obit, Deed, > Will, Pension, Bio & Bible forums are deleted. Take a look > at where you are BEFORE you post to these boards!!! > > ==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== Don't forget to bookmark our Many Helpful GA Links webpage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/gainfo.htm

At 02:22 AM 9/5/00 -0400, you wrote: >Names can be tricky when looking at the indian rolls. > >Indians often had more than one "indian" name and an >anglo name as well. we often know their anglo names >and look for them and fail to find them. > >For instance, Big Witch is Joseph LONG. You will find >that on the rolls. > >You also may want to find the native name for the word you >want, such as LONG. > >DEBBIE > >------Original Message------ >From: "Mike Cummons" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: September 4, 2000 10:01:48 PM GMT >Subject: [GAUNION] Indian Jones/Longs > > >I don't know why I assumed it was the JONES, I guess because I didn't think >the LONGS had Indian blood. I have heard the story of a LONG living with >the Indians after he killed that man for trying to take his land. This had >to be before the revolution. And I also have received some info a WILSON >buying property for his Indian girlfriend so she didn't have to live on the >reservation in NC. That was another shock. I just learned this info >yesterday while we were out of town for a wedding and we were all sitting >around the table having breakfast. My aunt said she had seen pictures of >Margaret LONG WILSON's brothers and sisters and they all looked like >Indians. There are also stories in my family of pictures of Indians being >destroyed. I have tried to do some research in the Indian rolls today but >other than a John Wilson I haven't found any LONGs or JONES. > >Georgia >----- Original Message ----- >From: Debbie Woolf <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:14 PM >Subject: RE: [GAUNION] Wilson/Long/Jones > > > > Georgia, > > > > why do you think it's the JONEs and not LONGs with Cherokee? > > > > reason I ask is that there is a record of a James LONG (I think it's in > > Fannin Co.) where descendants claim he was part CHerokee. If that is >true, > > I don't think it was through Uly CANSLER (her lines are suppose to be all > > German). That would make James LONG Sr. the prime suspect....and as I > > understand it, James Sr. and Levi are brothers. > > > > This was not common info. (the Cherokee) and maybe hard to prove. I don't > > think they waited to sign up for their citizenship rights (alot did not, >as > > there was no trust in the Federal Government...hmm, wonder why?). > > > > Let me know what you think about the LONG questions. > > > > DEBBIE > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: "Mike Cummons" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: September 4, 2000 12:13:23 PM GMT > > Subject: [GAUNION] Wilson/Long/Jones > > > > > > Just learned this weekend that my grandfather, Finley Lester "Ted" WILSON > > told his daughter that he was 1/8 Indian. I would imagine that would make > > Ted's great grandmother, Elizabeth "Betty" Jones LONG 1/2 Indian. Betty > > married Levi LONG in NC. Their daughter, Margaret, married Boyd WILSON in > > Union Co, GA in 1853. > > > > I'm very surprised with this new information. Does anyone have any JONES > > that claimed Indian blood? It's my understanding this was a well guarded > > secret. > > > > Thanks, > > Georgia Mathis Cummons > > Jacksonville, FL > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== > > The Union Co. GA 'county' forum at GenForum is NOT associated > > with Union Co., GAGenWeb. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== > > Reminder: queries and comments posted to the Obit, Deed, > > Will, Pension, Bio & Bible forums are deleted. Take a look > > at where you are BEFORE you post to these boards!!! > > > > > > >==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to bookmark our Many Helpful GA Links webpage: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/gainfo.htm > > > > > >==== GAUNION Mailing List ==== >Reminder: queries and comments posted to the Obit, Deed, >Will, Pension, Bio & Bible forums are deleted. Take a look >at where you are BEFORE you post to these boards!!! I cannot find my files right at the moment because we had the house treated for termites, especially my office and everything is moved all over the house. However, I know that a daughter of Basil E. Kilpatrick who lived NC and Ga., and I believe died ca 1872 in Cherokee Co., NC, had a daughter who married a man named Jones who was Indian. I believe that on the 1870 Cherokee Co. census (possibly 1860, they are living not very far from Basil. Just found my file and it was the 1860 census. His daughters name was Martha and she married Avery Jones. I also have a small writeup from a Walker Co, Ga. book, because that is where they moved. According to this article......."John Jones was b 1804 from Indian parents who lived in Cherokee, NC. John married Frances Gourd, also from Cherokee. Their son Ayers (note different spelling then what I had on my family sheet) was born in 1840. Ayers married Martha Kilpatrick and they had five children = Aquilla (Quill), Telia, John, Basil, and Greer.. There is a little more. This page was sent to me by someone years ago and does not have the name of the book, but it appears to be one of those "Heritage of........" books like they did for NC counties, because the heading says John Jones Family and it is numbered 670, written by Margie Purcell. The above mentioned Aquilla (Quill) married Laura Barclay in 1863 and had nine children.You mentioned Wilsons. Do you know of a Zebeon (I figure it might be Zebulon) Wilson who married a Martha Kilpatrick in Union Co. Ga. around 1840-41? Shirley Reed