In response to the roll call, I'm searching for my g.grandfather's sisters's possible descendants. On August 01, 1836, Peter GATES married Elizabeth SURBER in Shelby County, Indiana. (Elizabeth was deaf but Peter was not.) The name GATES in this case was almost certainly a German name that had been anglicized from Goetz, or Getz. Elizabeth used the name "Getts" as did her children for some years. Another researcher wrote to me: " . . . I think Peter Gates may be the son of Phillip Gotz (with the double dots over the o) and his wife, Christina, b. May 10, 1801, Shenandoah County, VA. (Zion Pine Church Records) . . . . I have also seen the name spelled GETZ and GEATTS." They had two boys b. ca 1838 - 1840 who may or may not have been deaf and who were said to have died "during the civil war" although they have not been listed as combatants. There was also a daughter who was named "Jane" or "Jessie," and who was born ca 1838. Census records have been of little help. Was this the Peter Goetz who was a Justice of the Peace in Shelby County Indiana? I have almost no information on this family and since the ancestors of either Peter or Elizabeth are unproven at this point, I'd much appreciate any clues. Jeanne Surber surberj@earthlink.net

Hi Jeanne, I think we have e-mailed before? I descend from Philip Gates (one generation from the Goetz spelling). My Philip was born in PA 1871 per his christening record. It is possible that my Philip and Elizabeth Bullon, b. 1784 in NC had other children. But it does not seems the dates for you Gates are the correct ones for Peter to be connected with Philip. Philip married in Rowan Co NC 1803 and within a few years the family with Philip's 3 brothers, George, John and Michael, began to move westward. They were found in KY > TN > IN > IL > MO > finally AR. So far I only suspect they were in Vadeburgh Co IN. The naming pattern in this family was very strong and it is possible that one of the brothers named a child for Philip but so far I have not found one if they did. Do you think there may be any connection? Gena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanne Surber" <surberj@earthlink.net> To: <GATES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:33 AM Subject: [GATES] Peter Getts - Gates, IN > In response to the roll call, I'm searching for my g.grandfather's > sisters's > possible descendants. > > On August 01, 1836, Peter GATES married Elizabeth SURBER in Shelby County, > Indiana. (Elizabeth was deaf but Peter was not.) > > The name GATES in this case was almost certainly a German name that had > been > anglicized from Goetz, or Getz. Elizabeth used the name "Getts" as did > her > children for some years. Another researcher wrote to me: > > " . . . I think Peter Gates may be the son of Phillip Gotz (with the > double > dots over the o) and his wife, Christina, b. May 10, 1801, Shenandoah > County, VA. (Zion Pine Church Records) . . . . I have also seen the name > spelled GETZ and GEATTS." > > They had two boys b. ca 1838 - 1840 who may or may not have been deaf and > who were said to have died "during the civil war" although they have not > been listed as combatants. There was also a daughter who was named "Jane" > or "Jessie," and who was born ca 1838. Census records have been of little > help. > > Was this the Peter Goetz who was a Justice of the Peace in Shelby County > Indiana? > > I have almost no information on this family and since the ancestors of > either Peter or Elizabeth are unproven at this point, I'd much appreciate > any clues. > > Jeanne Surber > surberj@earthlink.net > > >

(1) THOMPSON GATES s/o David Gates born: 1793 died: buried, Ball Cemetery, Wirt Co WV (Two miles up Tucker's Creek from Elizabeth, on Shears Farm.) married: May 23, 1818 Washington Co OH SARAH GOLD / GOULD b. 1798 d. Thompson is found in the 1840 census for Wood Co (W)VA with 3 sons and 4 daughters. He is in the 1850 and 1860 census for Wirt Co (W)VA Sarah surname maybe Gould. I did not find any Golds in the area but found many Goulds. History of Charleston and Kanawha County, West Virginia and Representative Citizens (1911) Page 610 and 611 Article is on Lovell C. Gates, son of Thomas D. and Anna (Marsh) Gates and grandson of Thompson Gates; Great-Grandson of David Gates. ************************************************ Genealogy Research: Baker, Barnhouse, Enoch, Higgins, Jarard/Jarrett, Tennant, Weekley Gates, Lockhart, Collins, Smith

My great-great-grandmother was ELIZA C. GATES born in Equality, Gallatin County, Illinois in 1834. She died 6-4-1916 in Hamilton County, Illinois and is buried in Cherry Grove Cemetery there. Today I received a picture of her with a twin sister whose name is unknown. If anyone thinks they could have a connection and wants to see the picture, I will email it to you. Thank you. Phyllis