This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1377 Message Board Post: In the 1850 Wayne Co IL census I have located a Mikel/Michael Gates and wife Catherine, or Caty Ann Gates. Mikel/Michel born KY abt 1811, Catherine born abt same time VA. They are parents to a large family, one son Simpson Franklin (Frank) Gates is my gr gr grandfather, he was born IN abt 1837. Mikel is listed in the 1850 census as a farmer and wagonmaker. He appears to have migrated from KY to IN to IL and later to MO. Names of his children bear the naming pattern of a family on adjoing property, also named Gates, J.P. and Elizabeth. JP has the same trades, and migration pattern as Mikel's family. I am try to establish if J.P. is the father of Mikel. Any help appreciated