I have been searching for my gr gr grandfather Simpson Franklin Gates (born IN) and his son Michael C. Gates (born MO) in the 1870 census for ages now...actually it seems like eons! They have to be out there somewhere. On ancestry.com the 1870 census will pull up some 300 odd Gates, if you search by last name only. I have gone through this list time after time. Odd thing is...most of those Gates (while born all around the world) seem to be in CA and just 1 or 2 other states. This strikes me as being very strange. I did find a S.F. GATES (age 1 yr) in a family in Wilson Co KS...that could be linked to my MO Gates, after the civil war and 1880, my family is then found in Randolph Co AR...but between the war, and 1880???? The KS enumerator simply used initials...darn him. I believe there is no true index for this census? Does anyone have an idea or suggestion that might help me with this search and the 1870 census? Gena Gates Lally Genealogy = disturbing the dead, and irritating the living.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GATES Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1366 Message Board Post: GATES_Russell_J_1963-2000_104_.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Dallas Fort Worth National Cemetery, area 104, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your records. This is one of the 48,623 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1323.1.1 Message Board Post: I haven't seen any descendants of the German Gates/Goetz family in Richland at that time, but there could possibly have been some of the English Gates folks there. Try checking the search-engine of the South Carolina Department of Archives & History at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. The Aaron Cates and his father Thomas of Newberry County are from NC, and are a different family, so don't get confused by the Soundex search-results! And the "Keitt" family of Newberry started out as "Keith"...but that George also managed to get spelled as Kate, Keate, Keits, Cates, etc. If the documents say "George Keith (or whatever) of Saxegotha", that's the one who never became known as a Gates--even though he eventually lived right up the road on Maverick/Lyons Creek in Amelia Township from the George Götz/Gatz who really DID become known as George Gates!

EDWARD B. GATES Edward Brice GATES, 81, of Sikeston, Missouri, died Saturday, May 3, 2003 in his residence in Sikeston, Missouri. He was born September 22, 1921 in Peach Orchard to the late John William David and Margarete Whitson GATES. He was a retired terminal manager for Agrico Chemical company and had served as a Seaman Second Class in the United States Navy during World War Two. He was a member of North Acres General Baptist Church in Sikeston and had served as a deacon and as Sunday School superintendant. On June 9, 1940, in Peach Orchard, he married Marguerite I. TUCKER, who preceded him in death, September 25, 1998. He then married Ramona Williams, January 6, 2001 in Sikeston and she survives. He is survived by two sons, Edward D. GATES, Benton, Missouri and Kevin E. GATES, Carlyle, Illinois; three daughters, Nellene A. ADKINS, Memphis, Patricia J. COMSTOCK, Sikeston and M. Carlette Von BURG, Carlyle; one brother, Lee Roy GATES, Youngtown, Arizona; two sisters, Iva MASON and Virginia LOWERY both of Knobel; 11 grandchildren and 17 great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by four brothers, Ira, Elvis, Melvin "Dago" and Paul GATES. Funeral services were conducted Tuesday morning, May 6, in Nunnelee Chapel, Sikeston with Reverend James TROTTER, former pastor of North Acres General Baptist Church, officiating. A graveside service was conducted at 1:30 in the afternoon in Pirtle Cemetery, Peach Orchard, with Reverend Melvin SHELTON officiating. Active pallbearers were Jim ADKINS, Andy COMSTOCK, Rod COMSTOCK, Chris REYNOLDS, Bob GATES and David VON BURG. Honorary pallbearers were J.L. GATES, Bud GATES, Warren HARBER, Bud DOCK, Jerry LIPPERT, Bill HUPP, Lee COMSTOCK, Brent GATES and Bud MILLER.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BOY.2ACIB/1108.3.1 Message Board Post: Thank you very much for this information on your Gates family. Emmet Franklin Gates was the son of Jireh Gates and Elizabeth Reynolds Ingram. I think Emmet was born in or near Rutland, Montgomery County, Kansas. Please contact me at robert.gates@verizon.net for additional information on this Gates line if interested. Thanks again. Robert

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GATES, CLINE, FLINT, GRUBB Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BOY.2ACIB/1365 Message Board Post: Looking for members of a Gates family that had been living in Lawrence Co Mo at the start of civil war. They may have moved to TX, KS, etc after war ended. May have been connected to a Michael/Mikel Gates and Catherine (Caty Ann Clline) Gates. Some of family settled in NE AR...but many did not, where did they go? Any help appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BOY.2ACIB/1108.3 Message Board Post: My great grandfather on my mother's side was Emmet Franklin Gates, born 1-1-1871 in Kansas. Emmet married Gertrude Trew in 1903 and they had three children; Bessie, ralph marshall & kenneth william. Bessie was my grandmother. They lived in Ruthven, IA (Palo Alto Co). Bessie Gates married Leo Benson Good who were parents to Gloria Good born 04 Feb 1933. She married Harold Ashland. I am their son.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1364 Message Board Post: I have just started doing research of the Gates family and have got as far as a William Henry Gates who married a Maggie B Neilson in 1899 Minmi NSW Australia, and all i know he was born in London England. If there is someone that can help i would be grateful

Michael's and Catherine's final resting place is in the Thayer Cemetery, Sangamon County, Illinois. Please email me privately and we can get you caught up on the Illinois side of this line. Sincerely, Dan Dixon - President Gates Family Reunion

Hello everyone I have been at a standstill with my GATES research long enough, I plan to make "something" happen :-) I am researching a line that begins with one Yost/Jost Goetz possibly from Prussia. Approximately 4 years after the birth of their youngest son, John Philip, Yost and Maria left PA and settled in Rowan Co NC. After the death of Yost/Jost Goetz in NC 1798, his 4 sons, in order of birth, George, born before 1765 John born 1760-1765 Michael, born Jan 30 1776 John Philip, born 6 Oct 1781 PA, was the youngest of the four. The sons changed the spelling to Gates, and made preparations to leave NC. J.P marries Elizabeth Bullon in Rowan Co NC abt 1804, prior to leaving NC. Their son Michael/Mikel/Micail Gates, born KY 1811(possibly Muhlenburg Co), a second son Valentine, is believed to have settled in, and lived his life in Sumner Co TN. I descend directly from Mikel/Michael/Micail. I3 other sons, George, born before 1765; John born 1760-1765; and Michael, born Jan 30 1776 settled in the area of Sanagamon Co IL. Michael m. Catherine (Caty Ann) Cline in Sumner Co TN in the spring of 1830, They had a large family and in the process settled for a while in IN where my gr gr grandfather Simpson Franklin Gates was born (I still do not know what county). By 1850 the families of JP and Michael were found in the 1850 Federal census, living in Wayne Co IL. Both men were farmers, wagon makers, traveled the same exact migration routes, had an extremely similar naming pattern, etc. I find no absolute proof connecting them as father and son, I still search for that link. By 1860 the family (minus JP who has apparently passed on) is found living and farming in Lawrence Co MO. Also present are many other extended Gates family members. The Gates men enlist, serving the Confederacy during the War of the Rebellion. I have military records showing service for Michael, Simpson Franklin also called S.F or Frank, and Frank's brother John Wesley as well as a number of other names I can connect to my line in the MO 6th Cavalry, CO H. Just after 1870 i find the family, minus Michael and Catherine, living in Randolph Co AR. They settled in that area to farm and there are still any number of Gates to be found in Randolph Co, Clay Co and Greene Co AR today. It would appear the Greene Co Gates are not connected to my line but can not help but wonder if we were to go back far enough.....? There were several other Gates, nephews, grandsons that I can not locate after the war. The harder I search and the less I find, the more I wonder if Michael and Catherine may have gone to Texas once the war ended. If there are Gates in TX that think we may have a connection....boy would I like to hear from you! Thank you Gena Gates Lally AZ

Martha, I am trying to find the original message someone sent me about this. As soon as I do, I will forward to you. It is very convoluted and I could not begin to explain it myself...it is confusing. Regena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Gates" <bridgergates@earthlink.net> To: <GATES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:14 AM Subject: [GATES] Order #11 > Regena, > What is Order #11 that you mentioned in your message about > Michael Gates? > Martha > >

Regena, What is Order #11 that you mentioned in your message about Michael Gates? Martha

To my fellow list members, I am researching (for years) the origin of my Gates line in America and their slow but sure western migration. By the beginning of the civil war my line is living in Lawrence Co MO. I am also a member of a MO Civil War mail list. I joined this list looking for help. I have found answers to many questions...most all but one. What happened to my 3rd great grandparents as they disappear from the face (seemingly) of the earth by the end of that war and the 1870 Federal census. I would appreciate it if you would read on. This is a copy of a post that I recently made to the civil war mail list. Perhaps some of you will have an idea that would provide me with a clue or a thought on where next to look. I have pursued ancestry.com, the LDS site and Family History Centers, I have requested records from every conceivable place I can think of , etc...I would love to learn what happened to Micheal and Catherine. Perhaps you can help me? "All the discussion about Order # 11 has me in deep thought about what may have become of my great great great grandparents. Micial/Mikel/Michael Gates, born abt 1811 in KY, and his wife Catherine Ann Cline lived at Mt Pleasant, Lawrence Co MO in the 1960 Federal census and at the outbreak of the war. They had grown sons, S.F. Gates (my great great grandfather) and John Wesley Gates, in addition to many others who lived in the same vicinity. When all was said and done, 13 of the Gates men were with the MO 6th Cavalry, Co H. They never owned a slave, and prior to this list, and despite growing up in the south...I did not really understand why they fought for the southern cause. After subbing to this list and reading each and every post...I began to understand why they did what they did. I am certain they knew before hand what the reaction would be to their decision to fight for the south. I understand that life became very dangerous for them and their families. There is a Michael Gates that is listed among the men in the regiment above. I believe him to be my 3rd gr grandfather Michael. I can not prove this as my Michael (however it was spelled) it was not an uncommon name....but, in the book, Shelby And His Men, there is mention of numerous Gates men, all of the same family, one in particular as "old man Gates" also the family "Patriarch Gates" and "Roman Gates". There is also the mention that there were 11 or more of Old Man Gates sons, nephews, etc in this same unit. I believe they are referring to Michael, my 3rd great grandfather. I have applied for and received copies (that still exist) of their military records. No where do I find mention that Michael was killed or died while in service. Others were wounded, or taken prisoner, but in the end all w! ere accounted for. By the 1870 Fed. Census I find S.F. "Frank" Gates and his brother John Wesley, as well as practically every other Gates that had previously lived in Lawrence Co MO...now living in Randolph Co AR. But no where do I find a trace of Michael Gates or his wife Catherine "Caty Ann" Gates. No death record, no burial site, no census records, nothing to help me understand what might have become of them. They simply vanish. I know that Lawrence Co is not among the counties listed for Order # 11...but is it possible that this may have something to do with the disappearance of Michael and Catherine? I simply do not know where else to turn in my search for them. If anyone has a clue I sure would like to hear from them. Thank you..." Gena Gates Lally AZ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BOY.2ACIB/1015.1 Message Board Post: I am also researching Alvin Cornell. My mother was Pearl Marie Cornell.All we know is her father name was Alvin Cornell from N.Y. My mother who is now deceased was place in a home in New York.Never knew her Mother or Father.All she knew were their names.Mother name was Frances Fields

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1362.2.1 Message Board Post: I suppose it is a possibility. I submitted the info on Valentine and family. I have not worked on that line in several years tho. I do seem to remember that Pleasant was a male though. I have no proof that Polly is even the daughter of Valentine and Anna. She may have been another family member that I have not yet found.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1362.2 Message Board Post: Is it possible that Polly's real name is Pleasant. In RObert Cady Gates book Records of the Gates Families of America from the Colonial period to 1860, volume 2; there is a listing for Valentine and Anna (May). Their children are: Frederick born 1833; Henry born 1835; Pleasant born 1837; J. Mathew born 1839; Fanny born 1841; Nancy A. born 1846 and E.C. born 1849. The book does not list anything about Pleasant's marriage.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GATES, MAY, BULLON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1362.1 Message Board Post: Pamela, I know we have had contact in the past and tho we found no connection I just wanted to let you know that I too search for a Polly Gates, believed to be the daughter of Valentine Gates of Sumner Co. In 1850 I find her listed in the household of J.P. and Elizabeth Gates in Wayne Co IL. Her father (believed to be, is also listed). Valentine seems to have lived in Sumner Co till I loose him about 1890. He would be quite old by then as he was born about 1810. Valentine married Anna May in Sumner Co TN in the summer of 1830. I believe Polly to be their daughter. Anna appears to have died by 1840. Good luck with your search.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gates, Lewis, Knight, Clayton, Clabough, Kear, Watson, etc... Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1363 Message Board Post: Looking to establish the parentage of Horace Gates. Only record I found for him (stumbled on) is the 1860 Gilmer Co. Ga Census. Last name is spelled as GAITS. His mother Mary M was living in the house at the time and also lived next to brother Horatio. Both show to be 49 yrs old. Horace's children listed are Elijah, Elisha (my-line), Rachel E, Mary E, Sarah A, Silas V,Jacob, and Hezekiah. He is dead by 1870 and along with his mother and Emily had moved with the kids to Murray Co., GA. In 1880 they were in Bradley Co., TN Would like to hear from anyone with any information. I will also share what info I have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1362 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Polly Ann GATES and Henry W. WILSON married 6 Jan 1852

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BOY.2ACIB/1361 Message Board Post: Looking for info on James GATES and Elizabeth BELLOW married 18 Dec 1820