Before a flame war gets started, I'll nip it in the bud. As I have been so gently reminded that copyrights exist to protect the work of others. It is not sour grapes. General rules which define what is sharing information and infringing on copyrights are: 1) is it for personal use? 2) are you sharing it broadly and systematically with more than one or two persons at a time? 3) Are you systematically making large parts of a copyrighted item freely available to others? 4) Uploading all or part of an item to an electronic bulletin board? 5) Making the results of blanket searches of an item freely and broadly available? I get a little touchy about these things, because of the web pages. I will also admit that I haven't been tracking the traffic on the mailing list too much. And so allowed the postings to go on too long. I apologize for that. I know on a couple of other lists that broad postings have and continue to occur. The person posting on one list has the permission of the copyright owner to publish the information. The other the copyright has not been renewed and is expired. Rootsweb and its bulletin boards must be very attentive to copyright violations, if it doesn't want to get slapped by others for violating copyrights while maintaining its contents are copyrighted and not available for pouching. One organization is going about wholesale pouching of rootsweb contents and genweb published information. Rootsweb contents are copyrighted by the owners of the sites and this information is showing up on a pay for use front end as the front end's proprietary information. This company is using links to tie to genweb and rootsweb pages and presenting the information as their own research. Scream at me, not on the list. Deborah Byrd