Hi John. You do such nice work. Thank you for this post. I will figure this JANE HODGES out yet. Her name is listed in Cynthia Ann Brown Henderson's family Bible of 1865, and there is no other name in that Bible, down to my brother Franklin Farr's name, that is not a family member. My Father and Grandfather were very close to old Mr. Hodges who lived across the River and Union Methodist Church...many a time we went to dinner on the ground there when I was little, as well as Oak Grove United Methodist Church in Dover. You don't have any of the Hodges marring into the Screven County Jarrell family do you? I am one of your wife's distant cousins, being a descendant of Thomas/Susannah Harris Greene/McKeen Greene and Elinor 'Nelly McCall Greene/Michael Henderson and Jane Harris Greene Henderson/William Young and Mary Henderson Young/Mary Ann Young Henderson Cameron and William Michael Henderson/Captain William Michael Henderson, 5th GA Calvary, CSA and Cynthia Ann Brown, sister or Dr. James Franklin Brown who married Capt. Wm. M. Henderson's sister, ANNE ELIZABETH HENDERSON (but not Cameron...she was not adopted by John Cameron after Wm. M. Henderson, Sr. died in 1845 and he married his widow, Mary Ann Young Henderson in 1849), and John M. Farr and Annie Laurie Henderson Farr, and Carroll Franklin Farr, Sr. and Mary Leona Clark Farr of Liberty County, GA. Whew, what a mouthful. This is fascinating stuff. I have a great deal on the Green(e) family. I had read one of your posts about the Green family and how one day you would actually finish a post on them. Boy, isn't that the truth! Sorta like the McCalls and the Youngs! I appreciate all your research. I, too, am trying to preserve this history for my children and their children. I grew up in Screven and Bulloch Counties. I now live in Texas, and I really miss the gracious Georgia people. I only need one more document to cement the line for my DAR papers. I am going to go in on McKeen Greene. Do you know anyone who would research a deed of gift of 1835 date, Screven County, GA, from Michael Henderson to William Michael Henderson, his son for me? I have tried to write for the info, but have had no success. Since the Henderson/Young/Cameron graveyard was destroyed (it was off the old Cameron Road, off HWY 17, I have no proof of the relationship of Michael Henderson and William Michael Henderson, except a copy of a card from the Henderson folder at the Bulloch County, Ga Library that says ....Essie Hollingsworth (a great aunt of mine, yet!) deed of gift dated 1835 from Michael Henderson to William Michael Henderson, his son...I know about the Hollingsworth files at the Screven County Library, but when I paid a visit to the library last summer, the new librarian would not let me in to see any of the files nor would she look for me, and Linda was out of town, so she could not call to see if I was ok. Oh the travails of trying to finish this from Fort Worth, Texas. If you know of anyone reliable in Screven County, would you mind sending me their name? When I get this all together, I will send you a post on all the Greene info that I have that is DOCUMENTED, and then I will start on the McCall info. God Bless You and Yours, too. Carole Farr Drexel gdrexel1@airmail.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peavy, John R SAS <John.R.Peavy@sas02.usace.army.mil> To: <GDREXEL1@airmail.net> Cc: <michie@flinthills.com>; <hodges@hypersurf.com>; <JBHAR78216@aol.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 4:43 PM Subject: HODGES Effingham & Screven Cos GA > Dear Carole FARR DREXEL, > > My wife's ancestor, > > Samuel HODGES b 1780-1782 East FL (m1 c 1805 Screven Co GA m1 Jane BLACK and > they evidently divorced c 1826-1829, he then m2 6 Aug 1840 Effingham Co GA > m2 Maragaret Ann GRAHAM) d 17 May 1861 Effingham Co GA (he could have been > buried at the Little Ogeechee Baptist Church Cemetery {LOBCC} with a wooden > marker, but the Yankees throroughly ruined the graveyard in Dec 1864), > > had a nephew, > > John HODGES Jr b 4 Jan 1804 d > 1870 > > The b date of John HODGES Jr is from the bible of his younger brother's > Bible record, that brother was > > Isaac HODGES b 15 Sep 1813 Effingham Co GA m 11 Dec 1840 > Effingham Co GA d 23 Feb 1875 m Flora GRAHAM b 19 Dec 1813 d 2 Jun 1899 > (younger sister {and niece by marriage for four months at that time} of > Margaret Ann GRAHAM -- the three of them are buried at LOBCC). > > It appears that the parents of John HODGES Jr and Isaac HODGES (and of a > total of at least eleven children b 1791-1820) were John HODGES Sr b > 1760-1770 d 1836-1840? (the older brother of Samuel HODGES) and Sarah _____ > "Sally" b 1770-1775 (known by name, only from Screven Co GA deeds in 1804 > {Book A p 435} and 1836 {Book M p 359}). Please refer to the 1802 deed > which I posted to the Screven Co GA genweb site for a fuller list of the > five siblings of John HODGES Sr. > > Now, the only early reference I have for a wife for John HODGES Jr > is a deed in Screven Co GA from 1829 (I include other pertinent data here): > > Screven Co GA Deed Book L p 289: 7 Mar 1829 John HODGES Jr (Martha HODGES > also signed) to James GRIFFIN and John GRIFFIN for $85, 200 acres originally > granted to William HODGES on 3 Feb 1794 and surveyed 22 Oct 1794, bounded by > James LOWDERS, witnesses William MCCARRDEL and Lewis LANIER J.P., recorded 8 > Apr 1830. > > Screven Co GA Deed Book L p 341: 15 Mar 1830 John HODGES Jr to my well > beloved Ambrose HODGES [age c 10 at that time], the son of my uncle Samuel > HODGES, for the good will and love and affection I bear and for $5, 281 and > 1/2 acres (for the benefit of Samuel HODGES in educating and maintaining > Ambrose HODGES), witnesses [Jr's younger brother b 1806] Hardy HODGES and > Lewis LANIER, recorded 5 Jan 1831 [Ann FARMER sold, for $48, this land to > John HODGES Sr on 23 Sep 1828; Samuel HODGES was a witness to that > transaction]. > > Screven Co GA Census of 1840 (259th District, p 103): John HODGES Sr one M > 40-50, one F 30-40, one M 20-30, one F 15-20, one M & one F 5-10, one M < 5 > [by age, this must be our John HODGES Jr -- in 1830s, John HODGES Sr was > reported as 60-70] > > Effingham Co GA Census of 1850 (hh 345): John HODGE 43 M, Jane HODGE 36 F, > Julia HODGE 16 F, Amelia HODGE 14 F, James HODGE 12, Hannah HODGE 9, > Ambrose [II] HODGE 7, William HODGES 5 > > [Screven Co GA Census of 1850 (hh 1 -- the hh of the census taker): John > CAMERON 45 b NC [35th District in 1852], Mary A[nn YOUNG HENDERSON] CAMERON > 36 [m2 16 Jan 1846/27 Jun 1849 Chatham Co GA], Ann E. CAMERON 12, William > M[ichael HENDERSON b 28 Feb 1843] CAMERON 7, Jane HODGE 27, J/I NEWSOM 22 M > b NC Overseer][Willis YOUNG and his family are at hh 4, the HODGES are at > hh's 18-22] > > [Screven Co GA Census of 1860 (224 224): John CAMERON 48 M b NC {1870s 65 > Retired}, Mary A. CAMERON 45 F b GA {d by 1870?}, Wm. M. HENDERSON 17 M b GA > Student {1870s head of hh 27 Farmer}, Jane HODGES 35 F b GA Domestic {1870e > 45}, Jeremiah USHER 24 M b GA Overseer] > > Effingham Co GA Census of 1860: J. HODGES 56 M, M. HODGES 53 F, W. H. > HODGES 15 M, L. J. HODGES 11 F > > Effingham Co GA Census of 1870 (462 468): J. HODGES 60 M Farmer, M. HODGES > 60 F > [W. H. HODGES age 23 M Teamster is with the family J. BIRD age 37 M at 1870e > hh 760 767] > [William H. HODGES m 10 Jul 1871 Effingham Co GA m Sarah HELMLY] > > So the John HODGES Jr who m Mrs. Martha HENDERSON on 14 Aug 1827 > in Bulloch Co GA may very well be "our" John HODGES Jr, but by 1840 his > unnamed wife appears to be b 1800-1810, by 1850 his wife appears to be Jane > b c 1814, by 1860 she seems to be M. b c 1807, and by 1870 she seems to be > M. b c 1810. The temptation is, of course, to make her into "Martha Jane," > but we lack far too much data to go that far (see caution paragraph below). > Have you any data as to the b date of Martha YOUNG HENDERSON HODGES? > > I do not know the identity of the Jane HODGES b 1823-1825 d > 1870 > unm? who is evidently a servant in the CAMERON/HENDERSON hh. Samuel HODGES' > children are accounted for in his will. John HODGES Sr's children are > listed in that Bible record. Their brothers William (Jr?) and Nathan had > moved away from the Effingham-Screven area (to Tattnall and Lowndes Cos GA). > This Jane HODGES would be a little old to be the daughter of John HODGES Jr > (at least by Martha). I will continue to look for a tie-in. > > I must caution you that you will find many genealogies that relate > the siblings of that 1802 deed (or at least some of those siblings) to > earlier HODGES from SC/NC/VA. As I uncover "local" data for these folks, I > have found so far that those connections lack any primary evidence to > support them. Whenever the proponents of this approach (or, as in most > instances, those who "inherited" such data and unquestioningly include the > material in their own genealogies as if it were supported), are asked for > substantiation, we very consistently receive no references to primary > evidence. The only possible exception to this pattern is use of the 1747 > will of Richard HODGES of Beaufort Co NC (probated 1752); but even use of > this will requires the grafting of a middle name to make it fit with our > HODGES (the Henry of the will becomes William Henry, but is only referred to > here in GA as William!), and the unfortunate result is that a John HODGES is > thereby made bigamous and is given a second set of children (it appears that > the John HODGES of that NC will m Rebecca CHERRY and lived his life > elsewhere -- NC/SC, not in Bulloch, Effingham or Screven Cos GA). William > "Henry" has two tombstones at his plot in Tattnall Co GA -- an old one for > William and a new one for William Henry -- it certainly adds force if you > write it in stone*. Incidentally, extra middle names seems to be a hallmark > of these genealogies. For example, the Samuel HODGES above is given another > middle name AND an initial ("James R.") when I have yet to see any census, > courthouse minutes, deed, land lottery, marriage or probate records that > indicate other than Samuel HODGES! In these genealogies, the position of > Samuel varies between generations, but the 1830 deed should clarify that > issue, showing Samuel to be the uncle of the siblings listed in the Isaac > HODGES Bible record. I will further caution you about my own findings: I > have exhausted neither data sources nor analyses to eliminate the SC/NC/VA > connections (our HODGES, after all, had to have come from somewhere) or, for > that mater, all the multiple middle names, but I would very much like to > have the primary evidence on which those genealogies are based in coming to > my own conclusions. > > May God Bless You and Your Family, > > Bob (John Robert) PEAVY > Post Office Box 1519 > Rincon GA 31326-1519 > jrpv@netzero.net > > *Note about the middle names: William may be William Henry, another William > may be William James, Samuel may be Samuel James R., Martha W? may be Martha > Margaret, John may be John Robert Sr or Jr, etc. -- I am just puzzled that > the collectors of these names do not produce primary evidence for > substantiation of them. On the other hand, Samuel HODGES' will of 1850 does > indicate the middle names of his later children -- but, oddly enough, the > genealogies to which I referred generally have his son James K. Polk HODGES > as only "James R." -- most likely produced from a typographical error in the > LOBCC inscription which was included in one of the DAR volumes for Screven > Co GA cemeteries -- a visit to the cemetery confirms that the stone has > "James P." -- James K. Polk HODGES and his wife are buried near his mother > at LOBCC. > > Note to Sandie HODGES (via Judy CANANT) and to Barry MICHIE: Yes, I know > that I am beyond exteremely slow about replying. Your inquiries (which you > have probably forgotten) may have since become moot points for you in the > time that it has taken me to get to this matter. In this instance, it > wasn't just the backlog -- I've been actively avoiding the issue, because I > have been (and to some extent still am) ill-equipped to address it. I am > presently gathering data (almost exclusively from my Bulloch, Effingham & > Screven Cos GA "BES" research area -- that's where I have or can get to some > resources -- perhaps not a complete picture, but I hope a fairly thorough > one using the available evidence) to produce, for me, a "new" position, and > so far it's looking somewhat like my old one (I've so far dropped > Tabby/Tabitha LITTLE as obvious part{s} of our family). As much as I > understand the "yearn to connect" (and that may yet be done), I have never > seen any primary evidence to support connecting our HODGES to those earlier > SC/NC/VA HODGES. As I, working with Bill REEVES, am able to pull together > the available data, I will be back in touch, eventually. As I understand > it, your interest is from the SC/NC/VA end, so I would appreciate your > letting me know if you uncover any links to our HODGES. I am begining to > run across very early (up to 1819) Savannah newspaper index listings for > Benjamin/Elias(wife Mary, brother Robert, cousin Drury), and Robert/John > Jr./Willougby (these ?unrelated and other HODGES also passed through our > area -- not to mention William HODGES of Beaufort District SC, and the > nearby NC/Bulloch Co GA HODGES from which I am descended). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gregory Drexel <gdrexel1@airmail.net> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 > Subject: [GASCREVE] MRS. MARTHA HENDERSON/JOHN HODGES, JR/WILLIAM MICHAEL > HENDERSON/JAMES YOUNG > | I found this entry in Mrs. Alvaretta Kenan Register's book, Bulloch > County, Ga Genealogical Resource Material. > | > | Groom: Bride > | HODGES, JOHN JR. MRS. MARTHA HENDERSON > | Date: 14 August, 1827 > | > | Does anyone have any other information about these people? I am searching > for the parents of Mr. MICHAEL HENDERSON who married JANE HARRIS GREENE i > Bulloch County, GA in 1809, later moved to Screven County. His son, William > Michael Henderson, (Sr.) married the daughter of JAMES YOUNG and LAVINIA > JONES Young, daughter of James Jones, RS. > | > | On the 1860 Census of Screven County, GA, there is a JANE HODGES who > appears in the household of WILLIAM MICHAEL HENDERSON. And seeing as how > their farm was right across the Ogeechee River from the HODGES lands and > William Michael Henderson, in his youth, was the overseer for his > grandfather JAMES YOUNG's plantation, I wondered if there was any marriage, > maybe second marriage, that would have a Mrs. Martha Henderson marrying John > Hodges. > | > | Any ideas? Carole Drexel gdrexel1@airmail.net >