Carole, I am still trying to sort the Williams. Sort of like the Taylor Family. Here is some information on the Robert Williams b about 1770's married to Sarah Dickson/Dixon. He was first thought to be My Great-Great Grandfather Robert D Williams ,Grandfather, but no documentation has been found. Descendants of Robert Williams 1 Robert Williams 1770 - 1831 .. +Sarah Dickson ......... 2 Robert Williams Jr 1791 - ............. +Ann Curtis 1809 - .................... 3 Robert Washington Williams 1832 - ........................ +Louriana J Carr 1840 - ............................... 4 Mary Jane Williams 1857 - 1891 ................................... +Francis Wright Burke 1854 - 1934 ........................................... 5 Infant Burke 1890 - ........................................... 5 Infant Burke 1888 - ............................... 4 Robert Williams 1860 - ............................... 4 James Williams 1862 - ............................... 4 John Williams 1863 - ............................... 4 Charles Wesley Williams 1864 - ................................... +Unk ........................................... 5 Charlie W Williams 1898 - ........................................... 5 Harris Williams 1899 - ............................... 4 Andrew Jackson Williams 1867 - ................................... +Cora Emma Miller 1876 - ........................................... 5 Jesse P Williams ........................................... 5 Florida Williams 1893 - ........................................... 5 Henry Williams 1895 - ........................................... 5 Carl Williams 1896 - ........................................... 5 Kate Williams 1898 - ............................... 4 William Whitfield Williams 1869 - ................................... +Georgia 1873 - ........................................... 5 Robert Williams ........................................... 5 Arthur Williams ........................................... 5 Emma Williams ........................................... 5 Frank Williams ............................... 4 Jesse N Williams 1871 - ............................... 4 Henry Williams 1874 - ............................... 4 Harry C Williams 1875 - ............................... 4 Infant Williams 1879 - .................... 3 Martin Williams 1829 - .................... 3 John Williams 1830 - .................... 3 David J Williams 1834 - 1920 ........................ +Harriet Lutz ............................... 4 William Curtis Williams .................... 3 Mary Ann Williams 1840 - ........................ +James C Burke .................... 3 Daniel Williams 1842 - ......... 2 Theophilus Wiliams 1793 - 1838 ............. +Rebecca Hunter .................... 3 James A Williams .................... 3 Sarah M Williams 1825 - ........................ +Spencer Currell .................... 3 Berry Ann Williams 1828 - .................... 3 Theophilus Williams Jr 1834 - .................... 3 Andrew Jackson Williams 1835 - 1865 ......... 2 Nancy Williams ......... 2 Sarah Williams ............. +McClain McClelland ......... 2 Penelope Williams ............. +James Kent .................... 3 Jesse W Kent 1837 - 1865 I also found in the Dixon Hollingsworth Notes: Williams, Family The following account written by the Mother of Mr Robt.T.Willingham,constitutes all the records of the family has of the Williams Family,Williams side: My Grandfather was Sheppard Williams, His wife, Mary Hudson, My Great Grandfather, John Williams of Va. His father was Griffith Williams , a Welshman. The twelve children of Sheppard Williams Are: Sons: Allan Williams, who married daughter of John McPherson Berrien,. Thomas Williams, Washington Williams, Sheppard Williams, Hamilton Williams, Martin Gardner Williams,(The father): James Williams. Daughters , Mary Anne Williams, Caroline Williams, Sarah Williams, Moselle Williams . Not sure who the others were since this was the end of this card. There was another note: Williams Theophilus Williams was the father of Green Barry ,William Alexander, Berrien, Samuel, Theophilus, John, Lency, Harriet, Maria,and Jonathon Jackson Williams. They at one time were in Bulloch Co. Oldest child Green Barry was born in Bulloch Co in 1807. This letter from Mrs Edgar B Jackson. Another from the Hollingsworth cards: Williams Family History, by Anne Willingham Willis, Rome, Ga. Jacob Williams settled in Isle of Wight Co, Va. he was from England, He was a Soldier in the French & Indian Wars. He had two sons William and John. John Williams had a son named George, who lived at isle of Wight, Va, and died North Hampton co, NC. His will is recorded the Jan 6, 1750 and proven in May Court, 1750. He married Sarah Ball, who according to family tradition was an aunt of Mary Ball, the mother of George Washington: Children of this marrieage were; Robert, George, Samuel, Jacob, William, Sarah, Mildred, Elizabeth and Ann. Also have Estate of Wm Williams : Heirs Dated Nov 16, 1849 1. Sarah Williams, widow,2Cooper Williams (wm Walker, Gaurdian),3David Williams, 4.Children of John Williams (Sarah, guardain). 5.William R Williams m Sarah Martha Best, 6.Henry H McGee m to Polly, 7Children of Benjamin Williams, 8.Samuel Williams,9.Eliz ;(widow of Samuel Newton),10 William Walker married to Patsy. In the 1860 Census of Screven Co: Cooper Williams 29, Elizabeth 25, BC 7, James 6,Malda 5, Mary 2.Elizabeth Newton 49, widowof Samuel Newton and sister of Cooper,George 18, Martha 16 her children. Cooper Williams came of age 1850 on Nov 9, 1850 he accepted his share of fathers estate. Hope this helps someone . There is more Williamses in Screven Co. . --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Thank you for this, Carol. The documents in Laurens are good. I did take the word of a site on rootsweb for place of death for that Kindred Braswell. Usually, I don't do that, but I'm bushed tonight and can check it out later. I hope that what I can contribute from Edgecombe will be of help, if not in all entries at least by posting the names in the indexes that I copied. (The Edgecombe and Nash deed books are careful to show both spellings; I agree with you that the names Braswell/Bracewell are interchangeable. I haven't gone through all of the pages of the Laurens County book of records, but will add and post what else I find. I'm actually mailing a check tomorrow to order a copy of the darned book. I've already copied many pages of it at 20c per page! This is my first experience in thinking about Braswells. It looks like I'll have to consider Smiths and others as well . . . I've been relying on my father's Dean research of thirty years ago while I happily went about the process of chasing Mills and Forbes ghosts. Now that we've added cousins and need to find a common ancestor, I'm having to look in a wider circle than my father had to be concerned with to establish Richard's Revolutionary service. I don't know that we'll find any conclusive evidence about who began whom behind 1760; about the best we may be able to do is to establish the lines in terms of the Y-DNA testing, connecting geographically through the cheek swab! SDL -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Miller Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:36 PM To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GASCREVE] Braswells Sharon, The Braswells are a really tangled up bunch to try and sort out. They are not my direct line since I descend from Juniper Hall Sr's second wife, Martha Thigpen, daughter of Travis Hill Thigpen and Hannah Hardy Hall (who were also from Pitt/Edgecombe NC). One of my fellow Hall reserchers pointed out just today that there were at least 10 men named Kindred Braswell. The one that we think was the father of Juniper Hall Sr's first wife was bon in SC in 1740, married Rhoda ukn and lived in Burke Co then moved into what is now Emanuel Co with his second wife, who was Ricey Roberts, widow of Isham Roberts of Screven Co. Family lore is that Juniper's wife was Elizabeth Braswell, but the Braswell family researchers say that he didn't have a daughter named Elizabeth. There are just a small number of documents available that tie Juniper with the Braswells. Then there is a Bracewell family, some of whom insist that the two families were not related. I tend to disagree. The one thing that does seem certain is that the Bracewel/Braswells were connected to my Hall family. I am a very long way from figuring out exactly who Juniper's first wife was, though. If only we had the Burke, Screven, and Emanuel records! Carol B. Miller ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, The Braswells are a really tangled up bunch to try and sort out. They are not my direct line since I descend from Juniper Hall Sr's second wife, Martha Thigpen, daughter of Travis Hill Thigpen and Hannah Hardy Hall (who were also from Pitt/Edgecombe NC). One of my fellow Hall reserchers pointed out just today that there were at least 10 men named Kindred Braswell. The one that we think was the father of Juniper Hall Sr's first wife was bon in SC in 1740, married Rhoda ukn and lived in Burke Co then moved into what is now Emanuel Co with his second wife, who was Ricey Roberts, widow of Isham Roberts of Screven Co. Family lore is that Juniper's wife was Elizabeth Braswell, but the Braswell family researchers say that he didn't have a daughter named Elizabeth. There are just a small number of documents available that tie Juniper with the Braswells. Then there is a Bracewell family, some of whom insist that the two families were not related. I tend to disagree. The one thing that does seem certain is that the Bracewel/Braswells were connected to my Hall family. I am a very long way from figuring out exactly who Juniper's first wife was, though. If only we had the Burke, Screven, and Emanuel records! Carol B. Miller

Thank you so much for sending those land plats! Oh, my goodness, this is amazing. I'm still trying to process the names you've given me below and also the fact that Carole apparently has these Braswells in her family. I just got off the phone with one of the newly identified Dean cousins who has just told me that all these surnames are in her family lines. She said that her family married into the Braswells in Alabama, for example. We figure that our common ancestor is very close to this early Georgia period, possibly in NC. Her information is in an old computer, and all of this has been happening so fast, that she hasn't had time to get it out and retype or whatever to send the information to me. We are both just stunned at my findings tonight, and I'm sure I have found only the beginning. There is a strong connection to Laurens Co, I think, because of the 1784 land grants. I know that my Burney clan left Jefferson Co (which had been St. George and then Burke)when the fellows got land in Washington. I believe I've sent some of the documents that show how one corner of Burke was endangered because of its proximity to Washington and the Indian problem. Anyway, I haven't moved from this chair all day, and I've got serious preparation for tomorrow. Thank you again, Sharon SDL -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:42 PM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson; correction, Paul Coalson, Braswell connection Hey Sharon, I had been checking for information about Turner Braswell, who had been on Brier Creek starting back in the 1790s. He was the administrator for the estate of Jacob Reddick in about 1807. He then married Jacob's widow Nancy Wiggins Reddick and they had two daughters before Nancey passes away. Turner then married Mary Haye(s). He lived until about 1824 or '25. Mary Haye(s) then married one of the Mobleys living along Brier Creek above Millhaven. Braswell and Mobley Branches above Millhaven point to where those families resided before their lands were acquired by the Seaborn Jones family to be added to Millhaven Plantation. There was another Braswell along Brier Creek, also. I think that he may have been Turner's father. Dale ___________________________________ Sharon Dean Lee wrote: > Dale, are you trying to give me a heart attack?! Oh, this just adds fuel to > the fire! Those Woods are all over Edgecombe, and thanks to the Y-DNA test, > we now have a Willis Dean in the fold. We also have in the fold a James > Minton Dean b. 1788-1790 (see the reference to Jonathan S. Minton in the > lineup of records. Do you suppose that is Jonathan SMITH Minton ????? Hee > Hee! For someone who has made fun of the Mills-Forbes-Bryan crazy truncated > family tree, I'm beginning to think the Dean clan's is no better. If yo9u > remember, Jack Pearce Dean and I have the same fourth great grandparents on > my grandmother's side, and because one of those Texas Bonnells married one > of those Texas Deans, and thanks to the Y-DNA test, we now are cousins (as > yet to be defined) on my paternal side. Yee Haw. > > > > SDL > > -----Original Message----- > From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:16 PM > To: gascreve@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson; correction, Paul > Coalson, Braswell connection > > Hey Sharon, > > I don't know whether this helps or casts more confusing information into > the stewpot... > > 1786 plat for a Kindred Braswell near a Samuel Braswell and near to the > Ogeechee River: > > http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPT > R=5484&REC=15 > > 1785 plat for Samuel Braswell near Kindred Braswell and near to the > Ogeechee River: > > http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPT > R=5568&REC=10 > > The text description accompanying this second plat lists Samuel, Kindred > and Robert Braswell as adjacent land owners. These parcels were on or > adjacent to Bark Camp Branch / Creek in Burke County (this could now be > Screven, Jenkins, Burke, or Jefferson County). > > Dale > ___________________________________ > > Sharon Dean Lee wrote: > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Sharon, I had been checking for information about Turner Braswell, who had been on Brier Creek starting back in the 1790s. He was the administrator for the estate of Jacob Reddick in about 1807. He then married Jacob's widow Nancy Wiggins Reddick and they had two daughters before Nancey passes away. Turner then married Mary Haye(s). He lived until about 1824 or '25. Mary Haye(s) then married one of the Mobleys living along Brier Creek above Millhaven. Braswell and Mobley Branches above Millhaven point to where those families resided before their lands were acquired by the Seaborn Jones family to be added to Millhaven Plantation. There was another Braswell along Brier Creek, also. I think that he may have been Turner's father. Dale ___________________________________ Sharon Dean Lee wrote: > Dale, are you trying to give me a heart attack?! Oh, this just adds fuel to > the fire! Those Woods are all over Edgecombe, and thanks to the Y-DNA test, > we now have a Willis Dean in the fold. We also have in the fold a James > Minton Dean b. 1788-1790 (see the reference to Jonathan S. Minton in the > lineup of records. Do you suppose that is Jonathan SMITH Minton ????? Hee > Hee! For someone who has made fun of the Mills-Forbes-Bryan crazy truncated > family tree, I'm beginning to think the Dean clan's is no better. If yo9u > remember, Jack Pearce Dean and I have the same fourth great grandparents on > my grandmother's side, and because one of those Texas Bonnells married one > of those Texas Deans, and thanks to the Y-DNA test, we now are cousins (as > yet to be defined) on my paternal side. Yee Haw. > > > > SDL > > -----Original Message----- > From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:16 PM > To: gascreve@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson; correction, Paul > Coalson, Braswell connection > > Hey Sharon, > > I don't know whether this helps or casts more confusing information into > the stewpot... > > 1786 plat for a Kindred Braswell near a Samuel Braswell and near to the > Ogeechee River: > > http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPT > R=5484&REC=15 > > 1785 plat for Samuel Braswell near Kindred Braswell and near to the > Ogeechee River: > > http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPT > R=5568&REC=10 > > The text description accompanying this second plat lists Samuel, Kindred > and Robert Braswell as adjacent land owners. These parcels were on or > adjacent to Bark Camp Branch / Creek in Burke County (this could now be > Screven, Jenkins, Burke, or Jefferson County). > > Dale > ___________________________________ > > Sharon Dean Lee wrote: >

Dale, are you trying to give me a heart attack?! Oh, this just adds fuel to the fire! Those Woods are all over Edgecombe, and thanks to the Y-DNA test, we now have a Willis Dean in the fold. We also have in the fold a James Minton Dean b. 1788-1790 (see the reference to Jonathan S. Minton in the lineup of records. Do you suppose that is Jonathan SMITH Minton ????? Hee Hee! For someone who has made fun of the Mills-Forbes-Bryan crazy truncated family tree, I'm beginning to think the Dean clan's is no better. If yo9u remember, Jack Pearce Dean and I have the same fourth great grandparents on my grandmother's side, and because one of those Texas Bonnells married one of those Texas Deans, and thanks to the Y-DNA test, we now are cousins (as yet to be defined) on my paternal side. Yee Haw. SDL -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:16 PM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson; correction, Paul Coalson, Braswell connection Hey Sharon, I don't know whether this helps or casts more confusing information into the stewpot... 1786 plat for a Kindred Braswell near a Samuel Braswell and near to the Ogeechee River: http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPT R=5484&REC=15 1785 plat for Samuel Braswell near Kindred Braswell and near to the Ogeechee River: http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPT R=5568&REC=10 The text description accompanying this second plat lists Samuel, Kindred and Robert Braswell as adjacent land owners. These parcels were on or adjacent to Bark Camp Branch / Creek in Burke County (this could now be Screven, Jenkins, Burke, or Jefferson County). Dale ___________________________________ Sharon Dean Lee wrote: > For anyone who is interested, Kindred Braswell/Bracewell was the son of > Richard Bracewell and Winifred Carlisle Bracewell Downman. The records for > the court battle over the minor orphan--Kindred and his siblings Allen and > Wiley Bracewel--from 1821 through at least 1829 is in the book Laurens > County Legal Records 1807-1832, Compiled by Allen Thomas, 1991. > > > ****Now, if there is anyone out there who can explain these relationships to > me, I will greatly appreciate the help. This is a discovery I have made > only tonight. Do you suppose Kindred's wife was a Smith? > > > > SDL > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Sharon, I don't know whether this helps or casts more confusing information into the stewpot... 1786 plat for a Kindred Braswell near a Samuel Braswell and near to the Ogeechee River: http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPTR=5484&REC=15 1785 plat for Samuel Braswell near Kindred Braswell and near to the Ogeechee River: http://content.sos.state.ga.us/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/looseplats&CISOPTR=5568&REC=10 The text description accompanying this second plat lists Samuel, Kindred and Robert Braswell as adjacent land owners. These parcels were on or adjacent to Bark Camp Branch / Creek in Burke County (this could now be Screven, Jenkins, Burke, or Jefferson County). Dale ___________________________________ Sharon Dean Lee wrote: > For anyone who is interested, Kindred Braswell/Bracewell was the son of > Richard Bracewell and Winifred Carlisle Bracewell Downman. The records for > the court battle over the minor orphan--Kindred and his siblings Allen and > Wiley Bracewel--from 1821 through at least 1829 is in the book Laurens > County Legal Records 1807-1832, Compiled by Allen Thomas, 1991. > > > ****Now, if there is anyone out there who can explain these relationships to > me, I will greatly appreciate the help. This is a discovery I have made > only tonight. Do you suppose Kindred's wife was a Smith? > > > > SDL > >

For anyone who is interested, Kindred Braswell/Bracewell was the son of Richard Bracewell and Winifred Carlisle Bracewell Downman. The records for the court battle over the minor orphan--Kindred and his siblings Allen and Wiley Bracewel--from 1821 through at least 1829 is in the book Laurens County Legal Records 1807-1832, Compiled by Allen Thomas, 1991. Now here's the interesting note: The Bracewells/Braswells as were many of the early Georgia families were from the area that made up the original Edgecombe, NC. I've been living with the names in the Edgecombe and Nash, NC, deed books for the past three weeks because I'm fairly certain this is the origin of my Deans prior to their migration to Washington, Georgia. I don't have time to write much, but the Edgecombe and Nash County deed indexes look like a who's who of early Georgia settlers. SOO--Kindred Braswell (sic) is born in Laurens Co, GA, in 1812. When his father dies about 1821, the older Bracewell siblings duke it out in court with Kindred's mother (the second wife) until Kindred comes of age. Beginning in 1818, the Dean-Braswell-Hightower-Smith drama plays out: *In July 1818, Williamson Deen, son of Winifred Dyson and Richard Deen--the younger, who d. 1812--marries Eliza Smith. [My Richard Dean, RS b. 1760 in Halifax, NC, was guardian of Williamson Dean's younger sister Charity following their father's death. The relationship between my Richard and that Richard is not established. Winifred Dyson and Richard Deen, the younger, were married in 1793 in Nash Co, NC]. *In 1825 Kindred Braswell (sic) gains letters of admin for the William Smith estate, and Joshua Hightower is appointed guardian of Elizabeth, Samuel and Joseph Smith, orphans of William Smith. *In 1825 Elizabeth D. Smith renounces her right of dower to land sold by Davis Smith and John Thomas to Russell Kellam in Jan. 1823. Land adjoining landowners Joshua Hightower, Martha Martin, Joseph Livingston and Culpepper. *In 1825 Elizabeth D. Smith renounces her right of dower to property sold by Davis Smith to Henry Montford in Jan 1825. [I have not established the relationship, if any, of Henry Montford to the James Montford who received about 350,000 acres from Gov. Telfair during the Pine Barrens Land Scandal.] *In 1825, Richard Dean, his son Elijah Dean, and Richard's son-in-law Joshua Hightower make a $7500 bond for the guardianship of Elizabeth Smith, Samuel Smith, and Joseph Smith, orphans of William Smith. [Richard Dean and his son Elijah are my direct line; Joshua Hightower is Richard's son-in-law, married to Richard Dean's daughter Sally.] *By 1826 Richard Braswell, who fought the court battle above for guardian of Kindred and siblings, is the admin of the William Smith Estate. *In Jan 1827, Kindred Braswell is guardian of Elizabeth Smith. *In Sept 1827, Kindred Braswell (admin), Joshua Hightower (guardian of the Smith children), and Lewis McClendon (in right of his wife) petition for their shares of the estate. *[various estate returns for 1827 and 1828. *In June 1828 a commission of Jonathan S. Minton, Hardy Smith, James Kinchen, Richard Ricks, and Roger Powers divide the Smith estate into equal shares. *In 1828 Winfield Hightower, son of Joshua and Sally Dean Hightower, marries Elizabeth Smith. *In July 1829 Kindred Braswell, admin of Wm Smith estate, discharged from liability. Estate settled. NOTE: in 1858, Elijah Dean dies in Dale Co, AL. In 1860, Kindred Braswell dies in Dale Co, AL. ****Now, if there is anyone out there who can explain these relationships to me, I will greatly appreciate the help. This is a discovery I have made only tonight. Do you suppose Kindred's wife was a Smith? SDL -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carole Drexel Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 11:07 AM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com; GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson;correction, Paul Coalson, Braswell connection Thank you, Carol, for all the great info. I'll try to put it together and see what else I can come up with. They were part of the Young family, and it is really very large. I was thinking that these Coalsons might be related to the Screven County Colsons. -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Miller Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:05 AM To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson;correction, Paul Coalson, Braswell connection Paul Colson was the first husband of Elizabeth Blackshear, Henry Wyche the second. Another discovery, Paul Colson was a son of Sanders Colson and Winifred Braswell, according to several sources. Winifred was a daughter of Kindred Braswell and Rhoda ukn. Juniper Hall Sr's first wife is thought to have also been a daughter of Kindred and Rhoda. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Carol Miller [mailto:cmiller20@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:57 PM To: 'gascreve@rootsweb.com' Subject: Edward Blackshear Coalson Carole, Well I did some quick checking around to refresh my memory,as these people aren't my line, just the Halls. Elizabeth Blackshear was a daughter of Edward Blackshear ane Emily Goodwin Mitchell. Her first husband was Henry Wyche and her second husband was Paul Coalson. He was born in Burke Co Ga and was a lawyer. Some sites at Rootsweb have Edward Blackshear Coalson as their son, so I think that is probably your answer. There is actually quite a bit of information on the Blackshears and some of these other families. The history of Melrose plantation is interesting, you should look it up. 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*Hey Scotti, If you make a left or a right turn in Cooperville off of US 301 You will be GA 17, not US 17. US 17 runs between Charleston an Savannah. Had to pick at ya! Big John * -- If God is your co-pilot, then switch seats.

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Hey Scotty, When you made mention of the Reddick cemeteries near Jacksonboro and Friendship Baptist Church, you used the wrong name for its founder. Rather than Peter W. Reddick, it was Peter's father Peter N. Reddick (born 1798) who established that cemetery. In fact, it was the latter's sister Nancy Reddick (born 1799, died 1853) who was first buried there. Then, Peter N. Reddick and his wife / 2nd cousin Adaline Reddick came next (except for a son who died young). The larger African-American cemetery which is adjacent to the above also carries the Reddick name, as members of Reddick and allied families are buried there. Also, these two cemeteries can be approached via a field road from US 301, if one has a key to the gate. Dale ___________________________________ Scotti3275@aol.com wrote: > Yes, I knew that I was forgetting some! And you're right, it was Harmony on > 301 that I couldn't remember. Thanks. > > Scotty > > > >

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Hi, Everyone, I'm trying to prepare an addendum to the Scott Family Book, stating not only the names of the various cemeteries, but where they are located. I'm trying something a little different, though; I'd trying to state directions as maybe to take a Sunday drive versus giving directions to just the one cemetery. As I'm sure that most of you are aware, many of these churches and cemeteries are physically quite close to one another. I'd appreciate it if everyone with any knowledge of Screven County help me out in case of mistakes (I know I made a few, at least two, I couldn't remember the name of the Church!). Everyone that does NOT know Screven County, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know if you could follow these directions if you happened to come to Screven County to do research. Thanks in advance for all assistance! Hope to hear from you soon. Happy hunting! Scotty Screven County Cemeteries & Directions Highway 301: Coming from Statesboro, and going north on US 301, you will pass several cemeteries. Not counting Cooperville (you have to turn right or left onto US 17), the first cemetery will be Doubleheads Baptist Church (on right), if you turn right here onto Captolo Road, and go down about five miles or so, this turns into Halcyondale Road, and a couple of miles from here is Red Bluff Baptist Church. If you continue on in the same direction, you will dead end into US 17 about five miles further. Going back to US 301, the next cemetery after Doubleheads is Goloid Baptist/Methodist Church (there are two churches here, the Baptist and Methodist, separated by a few hundred yards, but they share the same cemetery). You have to turn left off of 301 onto Goloid Churches Road, and there are down on the right. The next cemetery on the right of US 301 on a hill about two miles north of Sylvania. It is very small but has an above ground crypt for Alexander Kemp. Just past this, turn right onto the first dirt road, and at the end of this road is an old African Baptist Church cemetery. Continuing north, you will pass Jacksonboro and Beaverdam Creek, and the next cemetery is Church (on right). Just past this on a dirt road is the Roberts Family Cemetery (you have to walk in about a quarter mile or so). The last cemetery on US 301 in Screven County is Bethel (Brick) Church, which is just off of 301 on Plantation Road. To get here, turn left and the cemetery is up on the right. Highway 17 South: While going north on US 301 coming from Statesboro, turn right onto US 17 at Cooperville. When you reach Jarrell Pond Road, turn right and there is the Henderson Family Cemetery. Just past this on the left is an African Methodist Episcopal (AME) cemetery. Continuing to the south, when you reach Oliver, the Little Ogeechee Baptist Church Cemetery is on the right just past the intersection. This is the last cemetery on US 17 in Screven County, though there are Screven Countians buried at Elam Cemetery about five miles further down in Effingham County. Highway 17 North: While going north on US 301 coming from Statesboro, turn left onto US 17 at Cooperville. About three miles up on the right is Wades Baptist Church Cemetery (you cannot see it from the road; look for a “two-rut” road cut into the bank next to the highway). Continuing north on 17, the next cemetery is Oak Grove Baptist Church (on left). After Oak Grove, continue on towards Rocky Ford and there are a couple of cemeteries on roads off of US 17. The first one is Douglas Branch Baptist Church. Turn right onto Douglas Branch Road, and the cemetery is several miles down on the left. The next ones are on the Rocky Ford-Sylvania Highway. When you get to Rocky Ford, turn right at the red light, and about four miles on the left is the Zeigler-Parker Family Cemetery. Next is Little Horse Creek Baptist Church (turn right onto Little Horse Creek Road and the cemetery is just up on the right). After you pass Woodcliff, the Lucas Zeigler Family Cemetery is on the left. Continue on for about five more miles, and you will run back into US 301 at the Sylvania Bypass. Back to Rocky Ford and US 17, continue north, and the next cemetery is the Rocky Ford City Cemetery about a mile north of town on the right. Continue north and just across the Jenkins County line is the Scarboro Baptist Church Cemetery. It is on the left just before you reach the church, and is on the banks of the Ogeechee River. If you turn around and go south on US 17, just across the railroad tracks at Scarboro, turn right onto Oak Hill Church Road, and about four or so miles on the right is Oak Hill Baptist Church Cemetery. There are many Screven Countians here as well. If you continue on this road past Oak Hill, you will dead end into Highway 21. Newington Highway: While going north on US 301, when you reach Jacksonboro (about five miles north of Sylvania), turn right onto GA 24. You will pass several churches on this road; in order, Friendship Baptist (on left), McBride Baptist (on right), Buck Creek Methodist (on right), Jackson Baptist (on right), Captain Martin L. Bryan Family Cemetery (on right), Blue Springs Christian (on left), and North Newington Baptist (on right). Continue on for about three more miles to reach Newington and Hwy 21. There are some old family cemeteries just off of the Newington Highway. First, just after turning off of US 301 and onto GA 24, about a mile up on the right (in the woods, and about a half-mile walk) are the Peter W. Reddick Family and African-American cemeteries. When you reach Brannen’s Bridge Road, you can turn left and down a couple of miles on the left is Wesleyanna Methodist Church Cemetery. Back to Hwy 24, if you turn right on Brannen’s Bridge Road, about two miles down on the right in an overgrown copse in the middle of a cornfield is the Humphrey Bazemore Family Cemetery. Continue on and you will cross Brier Creek and eventually wind up at Pine Grove Inn on US 301. Continuing westward, turn onto Rifle Road, and about a mile or so on the right, you will see a little two-rut road in a stand of pine trees. Just down this road is the Poythress-Gross-Scott Family Cemetery. Back to Hwy 24, just past McBride Church, turn left onto McBride Circle (the second one). Continue to bear right onto Peat Moss Road, and in a very overgrown area is the Gross-Mercer-Wells Family Cemetery. Back on Hwy 24, you can turn left onto Mercer Road and just after it turns into Mouth of the Creek Road, on the left in a grove of trees is the Humphreys Family Cemetery. If you continue on this road, you will reach the Savannah River, where Brier Creek flows into it (hence the name “Mouth of the Creek”). When you get to the crossroads of Hwy 24 and Black Creek Church Road, turn right and follow the signs to both Black Creek Baptist Church and Middleground Baptist Church cemeteries. When you reach Newington, go straight across Hwy 21, then turn right onto Union Church Road, and about four miles or so, Union Baptist Church is on the left. Sardis Highway: While going north on US 301, when you reach Jacksonboro (about five miles north of Sylvania), turn left onto GA 24. On the right about four miles down is Bascom Cemetery. Just before Hiltonia on the right is an old cemetery, which was recently discovered (I cannot remember the name?). About a mile west of Hiltonia is the Lovett Family Cemetery, which is the oldest cemetery in Screven County. You can turn left at the Lovett Cemetery onto Roberts Bridge Road, go about a mile, then turn left onto Hurst Church Road. Hurst Baptist Church is about a mile further, with the church on the right and the cemetery on the left of this road. Back to Roberts Bridge Road, continue past Hurst Church Road, and when you see a dirt road on the left, turn left then bear to the right. Continue on around a corn field, and when you come to a gate, you can see Mt. Pleasant Cemetery (there are quite a few Roberts and Forehands buried here). Back to Roberts Bridge Road; continue on until you reach the Hiltonia-Perkins Highway. Turn to the left, and about two miles up is the old Trinity Baptist Church cemetery (Trinity Church is now the Six Bridges Hunting Club). At the top of the hill past this cemetery, turn l eft onto an old dirt road and about three hundred yards or so is the Lambert-Streagles-Hurst Family Cemetery. Within sight of this cemetery is the old Skinner House, where George Washington ate breakfast back in 1792. This house is still standing and is twenty years older than the Dell-Goodall House, but is being allowed to simply fall down. Back to Roberts Bridge Road; turn to the right onto the Hiltonia-Perkins Road and about a mile down on the left is the Church Cemetery. This church used to be at Mt. Pleasant, but was moved here in the early 1900s. Continue to the Jenkins County line, and right on this line is an old two-rut road. Walk down this road about a half-mile or so, and there is the Smith-Pengree Family Cemetery. If you continue on the Hiltonia-Perkins Road, you will go past Dry Branch Baptist Church (on right), and come to the Millen-Sardis Highway (SR 23). Back to the Sardis Highway (SR 24); after you pass Hiltonia and the Lovett Cemetery, turn right onto Millhaven Road. On Millhaven Plantation is the old Millhaven Cemetery; however, I believe that there are restrictions on visiting this cemetery. After you pass through Millhaven bear left onto Girard Highway, and about five miles or so (you’re now in Burke County) is Bethlehem Baptist Church Cemetery, where many Screven Countians are buried. Bethlehem is the oldest church in Southeast Georgia. Antioch Christian Church Cemetery: Go north on US 301, and while still on the Sylvania Bypass, turn left onto Buttermilk Road, then after a couple of miles, turn right onto Antioch Church Road. The church is about a mile on the left. McDonald Methodist Church Cemetery: The next road after Antioch Church Road is McDonald Church Road. Turn right and the church is down on the right. Horse Creek Baptist Church on about ten mile further down on the right, and is just inside the Jenkins County line. You can follow either of these roads and they will run into the Hiltonia-Perkins Highway. When you get to the Hiltonia-Perkins Highway, turn right and go to Hiltonia. When you get to SR 24, go straight across, and continue on to Millhaven Road. At the left-hand corner of this road is the Herrington Family Cemetery. Turn right and you will come back to US 301 at Pine Grove Inn. Continue across 301, and about two miles down on the left (you have to turn left onto a dirt road) is a very old African Baptist Church Cemetery (I can’t remember the name right now, but it may be Oak Grove or something like that). **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Hi Soctti, I'm not sure if you wanted to mention all the cemeteries are just the one's with Scott's (this probably includes most of them) But here are some I thought of,there is a Black Creek Baptist Church and a Black Creek Methodist Church and Cemetery., The Lee-Beville Cemetery.,Farmdale Baptist and Green hill Baptist,Newington City Cemetery,Screven County Memorial Park, Old Sylvania City Cemetery.Zion Fair on Poor Robin Rd.I'm not sure of the name of the one behind William Wells Place but I know Scotts are buired there. I think you were think of Harmony above Beaverdam Creek. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Thanks for the offer about the book hunting. At present I have about 39 to read ( i read and take notres in c.65-75 books a year. There is an excellent old book emporium here in Jacksonville, Chamblin Bookmine. The dealer has abt one million in stock and another same amount in storage but is trying to open another downtown. i don't have any data on Bradley surname but i did go to school with two Southern Bradley girls eons back. One preferred Elvis over me ( go figure! ) so I dated her cousin for quite a while. Sadly, my Elvis lady died two weeks ago, much too soon, and the cousin remarried and moved on down south. I always thgought that her preferrence for elvis motivated me into being as good an entertainer as I could, and now 52 years later i'm still rockin/singing/playing/emceeing/ and still doing comedy.. I was eleven then. Sheesh! Wahat did Elvis have that I ....Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nan Ready" <nready@comcast.net> To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d 1880 Gadsden Fl > Randy, > > YOU are such a trip. It sounded like a book hubby would enjoy is why I > asked. I shall look > to see if I can find it. So like, do you have a list of books you are > looking for???? We have > a huge trade in store here I would be glad to look into for you? > > In your genealogy stuff do you happen to have anything on the BRADLEY > surname > coming from South Carolina to Georgia? > > Or the Ginn families in South Carolina? Maybe I need to check what the > SCOTT Libraries > hold when I have a brick wall. > > Randy Scott wrote: > > Hi, Nan. The James brothers bio/history is: "Frank and Jesse James: The > > Story Behind The Legend ", by Ted P. Yeatman, Cumberland House Publishing, > > Nashville; 2000; 474 + pages, history/photos/maps An almost exhaustive > > history of the brothers. The John wesley Harden bio/history is: " Noble > > Outlaw" by Matt Braun, from the The Gunfighters Chronicles Series ' St > > Martins Paperbacks, 1975. This one details the Bowen wife of John Wesley. > > Tehse are a part of my vast collection of books on the American West ( > > Indian lives/culture, indian wars, mountainmen era, the white man's > > imncursion and development of the west; Civil War of all levels of study, > > North and South;( over 700 in my collection ) Lincoln collectables and books > > ( over 700 in this batch )Florida and Southern histories; The Mafia; > > Baseball and other sports history; newspapers from the 1700/1800's; > > philatelics and numismatics ( love those big wodrs! ) music history > > especially jazz and early rock; great literature American and world ( about > > 500 in this gathering ) and the study of American law and supreme court > > decisions ( about 100 here ) and other interests and collections, not to > > mention a plethora ofgenie and other alogy works including those i've > > written/compiled ( got to catch up to Cousin scotty! ) Around 5,000 in toto > > ( that means total, not Dorothy's dog! ha ha ) Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nan Ready" <nready@comcast.net> > > To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d > > 1880 Gadsden Fl > > > > > > > >> Don't step in IT Randy, > >> What is this book you keep referring to sounds like an interesting read? > >> > >> Thanks, Nan > >> > >> > >> Randy Scott wrote: > >> > >>> Cuz! I looked thru the James boys bio again this pm and there is no > >>> > > mention > > > >>> in the index ( which is very thorough ) about their father " Bob Jim " > >>> > > James > > > >>> ( Robert Salee James ) coming from Georgia. Both Frank and Jesse > >>> > > traveled to > > > >>> Atlanta several times for horse races. When they hid out in nashville > >>> > > they > > > >>> made part of theior 'honest' living off of racing their prize horses in > >>> Nashville, Atlanta, Kentucky. Reverend James and his new bride, Zeralda > >>> Cole, left Ky and went to Clay Co., Missouri in time for Frank to be > >>> > > born > > > >>> there in January 10,1843; Jesse on September 27, 1847; another son, > >>> > > Robert > > > >>> r. James died at birth in 1845 and a daughter, Susan Lavinia James, was > >>> > > born > > > >>> Nov. 29, 1949. Zeralda was born at Midway, Ky near Lexington, where her > >>> father operated the Black Horse Tavern. rev. James dioed in the gold > >>> > > camps > > > >>> at Hangtown ( how appropriate! ) of a fever in 1850. Hangtown renamed ( > >>> thank God! ) Placerville. Ambitious Chamber of Commerce behind that > >>> > > move > > > >>> I'd say! Maybe this bit of dates/sites/data will help some of you find > >>> > > Rev. > > > >>> James' origin. I mentioned i9n another e mail reply about John Wesley > >>> > > Harden > > > >>> marrying Janie Bowen. he was also on the run from the law a lot and even > >>> lived here in Jacksonville and worked in a butcher shop ( appropriate > >>> > > for a > > > >>> guy with over 30 kills! ). hE was recognizeds by a railroad detective > >>> > > and he > > > >>> put the " Haul As..." on it to Charleston and then other sites before > >>> relocating in SW labama at Janes' parents farm. he then began a very > >>> successful timber/logging business on the river and down thru > >>> > > Pensacola. he > > > >>> was really expanding, buying lumber mills, logging opperations until > >>> > > again > > > >>> being spotted by the law and, ever once again, a serious dose of 'adios! > >>> > > " > > > >>> took over. He went back to Texas, planted a few more owlhoots before > >>> > > being > > > >>> captured. After over 20 eyars in prison he was released and became a > >>> > > lawyer > > > >>> of all things, was successful until a bit of lead penetrated his cranium > >>> > > in > > > >>> a bar, well-placed by another ne'er-do-well. my interesets in subjects > >>> > > of a > > > >>> historical nature run wide and deep and cover a hundred different > >>> preferences. As some have put it " Some people have it and some > >>> > > don't..ol' > > > >>> Randy is full of it ! " Randy > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: <Scotti3275@aol.com> > >>> To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:15 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d > >>> 1880 Gadsden Fl > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi, All, > >>>> > >>>> My paternal grandmother, Laura Mock Scott, always insisted that > >>>> > > she > > > >>> was > >>> > >>> > >>>> the fourth cousin of Frank and Jesse James. Now, according to Screven > >>>> > >>>> > >>> County > >>> > >>> > >>>> marriage records, Laura's grandfather, John A. W. Cubbedge, married > >>>> > > Mary > > > >>> Ann > >>> > >>> > >>>> James in 1844, so that may have been so. Also, I remember reading > >>>> > >>>> > >>> somewhere > >>> > >>> > >>>> that Frank and Jesse's father's family were originally from Georgia, > >>>> > > but > > > >>> I > >>> > >>> > >>>> have not been able to substantiate that. Lastly, in a letter written > >>>> > > in > > > >>> 1935 > >>> > >>> > >>>> by my great-grandfather, John Randolph Mock, he stated that his > >>>> > >>>> > >>> mother-in-law > >>> > >>> > >>>> (Mary Ann Cubbedge) was "a Jewess orphan named Emanuel, who had been > >>>> > >>>> > >>> adopted > >>> > >>> > >>>> by the Evans family". If this is confusing to you, you can rest > >>>> > > assured > > > >>>> that I am as well! I hope that this helps someone though. Happy > >>>> > >>>> > >>> hunting! > >>> > >>> > >>>> Scotty > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> **************Start the year off right. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dereddi Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.screven/2357/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Folks, The following is convoluted in its pathways, at places - but I think you may find the conclusion (a question, perhaps) to be interesting. I've been making a great deal of use of the Georgia Secretary of State Archives Search function, looking at early plats of Burke and Screven Counties. Among numerous items of interest to me that I've found is the 1787 plat of a 200 acre parcel granted to my gggg-grandfather Nicholas Reddick (aka Redick & Readick) on Brier Creek in then Burke County. This parcel was soon in Screven County, when that county was created in 1793. And alongside Nicholas Reddick's plats were some other plats that should be of interest to others. In 1787 Nicholas Reddick was granted 200 acres on "Halfway Branch", which was located on the "So side of Briar Creek near Paris' Sawmill". Paris' Mill was the location around which the village of Millhaven developed. Francis Paris bought land on Brier Creek at Pine Log Crossing starting in 1769 and by 1770 or shortly thereafter had a dam and mill constructed across Brier Creek. Francis Paris called his enterprise Milltown, but everyone else called it Paris' Mill. He advertised the enterprise as Milltown when he tried to sell it both before and after the Revolutionary War. Well, back to "Halfway Branch" - on the south side of Brier Creek and above Millhaven there are two large branches leading up to the Burke County line. These are Quill Branch which is located wholly within Screven County. Then there is Mill Branch, which is located in both Screven and Burke Counties. I am presently thinking that this "Halfway Branch" of that 1787 plat must be either the modern Quill or Mill Branch. I have focused on these two branches due to a later deed in which John Michael Burkhalter sells a land parcel to Francis Paris. In it that land parcel of Burkhalter is described as being adjacent to that of Nicholas Reddick and the land of Reddick adjoins the millpond of Francis Paris. Present-day topographic maps demonstrate where the remains of that millpond's dam and millraces are situated just above the bridge at Millhaven (downstream from those two branches). The ground of the creek bottom / floodplain surrounding the creek is below 110 feet in elevati! on at the point where the dam had been constructed. Between Millhaven and the Burke County line the creek bottom / floodplain elevation increases to 110 feet about halfway to that county line. The creek bottom elevation does not rise to 120 feet until perhaps two miles into Burke County along Brier Creek. If the millpond backed up behind the dam of Paris' Mill was not exceptionally deep, then it may have extended just a mile or two upstream from the dam's location in present-day Millhaven. If eight, ten, or twelve feet in depth as it spread away from the original banks of the creek, then the millpond might have entended further upstream to the Burke County line or even beyond. It is the presence of that millpond that helps to delimit where Nicholas Reddick's land may have been located. Well, here are four plats that may actually be linked together along the south side of Brier Creek. I've listed the four in the order of dates by which they were granted and surveyed. JPEG image files of he plats and the respective descriptions of the plats are attached to this message (on the Screven County message board - the images are not viewable via the GASCREVE e-mail list). 1) John Michael Burkhalter, adjacent to William Phillips and Mordecai ('Mordicae') Sheftall. 2) William Phillips on Brier Creek; adjacent to Sheftall, J. M. Burkhalter, and himself; with Greiner's Branch passing through both of Phillips' land parcels. Note that John Greiner is shown as the owner of the land parcel surrounding the mouth of Greiner's Branch as it empties into Brier Creek. This is likely John Martin Greiner / Griner (1739 - 1807), who was my ggggg-grandfather. J. M. Burkhalter is supposed to have acquired the land or William Phillips. During the early 1790s J. M. Burkhalter sold two land parcels to Francis Paris and to the brothers Jacob & Peter Reddick. Thus, it is likely that these two parcels described in items 1 & 2 were then shortly in other hands. 3) Charles Kimbrel with vacant lands surrounding his parcel; J. M. Burkhalter being a CC for his survey. 4) Nicholas Reddick, adjacent to J. M. Burkhalter, Charles Kimbrel, & Francis Paris; both J. M. Burkhalter & Francis Paris served as CC. Above I speculated that the Halfway Branch bisecting the parcel of Nicholas Reddick might be modern Quill or Mill Branch on the south side of Brier Creek. The same may be true of Greiner's Branch, as it too may also be one of those two stream courses on the south side of Brier Creek. Here's a little bit of information about John Martin Greiner. Note that he had been granted 250 acres in St. Georges Parish (Burke County) in 1768, only 16 years following his arrival in the colony of Georgia. JOHN MARTIN [3] GREINER (PHILIP JACOB [2], JOHANN CASPAR [1]) was born 1739 in Purysburg, SC & died 1807 in Screven Co., GA. He married MARIA EISCHBERGER May 24, 1763 in Effingham Co., GA, daughter of RUPRECHT EISCHBERGER and ANNA RIEDELSBERGER. Notes for JOHN MARTIN GREINER: Arrived 3rd Swabian Transport, November, 1752. John Martin Griner, Private in GA militia; wounded in battle of Eutaw Springs, SC. Granted 250 acres of land in Burke Co., GA on June 7, 1768. Notes for MARIA EISCHBERGER: Anna Maria Eischberger (Ashberger, Eysperger) was supposed to have come from Saalfelden. Some Eischbergers of the Georgia migration came from Werfen, a village south of Salzburg city. I'm descended from John Martin & Anna Maria via their son Timothy Griner (born February 2, 1765) who married Mary Brunson. Timothy and Mary's son William Jacob Griner (born 1793) married Elizabeth Spooner. That latter couple's son James Griner married Julia Ann Waters. And that couple's daughter Annie Griner married John F. Taylor, with those folks having been my great-grandparents. Then, there's the presence of Mordecai Sheftall. By 1767 he owned 1,000 acres in what became Burke County. At the time of these plats he was still listed as the landowner of some of those lands along Brier Creek. Mordecai Sheftall had been appointed to the position of Deputy Commissary General in Georgia in 1778 (during the Revolutionary War). He was designated as a 'Great Rebel' by the British prior to their taking of Savannah in 1778 (he was captured and tortured by the British). Thus, it was Mordecai Sheftall the Revolutionary War Patriot who owned the land near J. M. Burkhalter, Francis Paris, the Reddick brothers, and others along Brier Creek. He entered into business at age 17 and by the age of 18 years of age (in 1753) he had acquired a 50 acre lot in Vernonburg (near Savannah). And fourteen years later (1767) he was in business in the future Burke & Screven Counties. The following is from the Georgia Encyclopedia. It's a partial, condensed biography of Mord! ecai Sheftall. http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-3183 "Mordecai Sheftall (1735-1797) The highest-ranking Jewish officer on the colonial side during the Revolutionary War (1775-83), Mordecai Sheftall was also successful as a merchant and shipper and as a soldier and statesman. A highly visible participant in civic activities, he was consistently recognized for his talents by authorities at every level of society and government. He was born in Savannah on December 2, 1735, to Perla and Benjamin Sheftall, who had arrived in the Georgia colony, along with about forty other Jewish immigrant families, in 1733. They sailed on the /William and Sarah/ from London, England, and the Sheftalls were founding members of Congregation Mickve Israel. Sheftall was only eleven years old when his formal education ended, for lack of schools. By the time he was seventeen, he had begun what was to be a highly successful career as a merchant, buying and tanning deerskins to sell at a profit. When he was just eighteen years old, he had accumulated enough money to purchase fifty acres in Vernonburg, near Savannah. Throughout his life, Sheftall speculated in real estate. His pre-Revolution holdings were immense. Well-connected with friends and family in mercantile and shipping in England; the Caribbean; Charleston, South Carolina; and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he developed a network of contacts to help build up his own business by his mid-twenties. Sheftall married Frances Hart, the sister of one of his Charleston merchant contacts, in 1761. The couple had six children, all but one living to adulthood. A year after their marriage, they owned 1,000 acres of land and nine slaves. Sheftall took up cattle ranching, acquiring another 1,000 acres in St. George Parish (later Burke County) in 1767 for grazing and timber harvesting. The cattle business led to his building a tanning facility with his half-brother Levi, and in 1768 the Georgia Houses of Assembly appointed him Inspector of Tanned Leather for the Port of Savannah." In the online Hollingsworth Card Catalog there is a single card entry for the Sheftall family. It notes that in 1802 the heirs of Benjamin Sheftall were receiving the lands within Screven County that had once belonged to Mordecai Sheftall (who had died in 1797). So, why am I suddenly focusing on Mordecai Sheftall, Jewish businessman from Savannah and Revolutionary War Patriot & Hero? Well, let's think a bit about the settlement of interior Burke and Screven Counties along Brier Creek. This was where a great deal of early colonial period settlement and economic development occurred in the two counties. The above description of his pre-War activities (from the Georgia Encyclopedia) places much of his economic activity in St. Georges' Parish by 1767. Sheftall is there along Brier Creek grazing cattle and harvesting timber. And what happens in 1769? The colonial miller Francis Paris leaves his milling operation on the Ogeechee River (it may have been located at Mill Creek in Bulloch County) and begins to establish a sawmill on Brier Creek just a short distance from a land parcel owned by Mordecai Sheftall. Paris operated two mills at his dam site on Brier Creek. They generated a reported 400 horsepower. There are hints that he ! had a third mill on his property at Millhaven. Why did Paris leave his Ogeechee River milling operation to start up anew on Brier Creek? Maybe he was looking for greener pastures and more virgin forests along Brier Creek. Perhaps he was invited there by a Savannah businessman who had already established a base of operations along Brier Creek. Who was the driving force behind the development of the milling complex at Paris' Milltown? Was it Francis Paris, himself - or was he invited or prompted to move his operations to Brier Creek. Who and /or what got business development started along Brier Creek? Those are some of my thoughts deriving from having looked at what appear to be four inter-connected plats of the latter 1780s along Brier Creek. Dale E. Reddick Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dale, this is fascinating. The more you can write these kinds of instances up, the better for everyone on this list. It is immensely helpful to place these people during the Colonial period, and then to pinpoint them after the counties shook out. Thank you. Carole Drexel410@att.net -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:23 PM To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GASCREVE] Sheftall, Reddick, Phillips, Paris, Kimbrel, Greiner,& Burkhalter names on 1780s plats along Brier Creek. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dereddi Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.sc reven/2357/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Folks, The following is convoluted in its pathways, at places - but I think you may find the conclusion (a question, perhaps) to be interesting. I've been making a great deal of use of the Georgia Secretary of State Archives Search function, looking at early plats of Burke and Screven Counties. Among numerous items of interest to me that I've found is the 1787 plat of a 200 acre parcel granted to my gggg-grandfather Nicholas Reddick (aka Redick & Readick) on Brier Creek in then Burke County. This parcel was soon in Screven County, when that county was created in 1793. And alongside Nicholas Reddick's plats were some other plats that should be of interest to others. In 1787 Nicholas Reddick was granted 200 acres on "Halfway Branch", which was located on the "So side of Briar Creek near Paris' Sawmill". Paris' Mill was the location around which the village of Millhaven developed. Francis Paris bought land on Brier Creek at Pine Log Crossing starting in 1769 and by 1770 or shortly thereafter had a dam and mill constructed across Brier Creek. Francis Paris called his enterprise Milltown, but everyone else called it Paris' Mill. He advertised the enterprise as Milltown when he tried to sell it both before and after the Revolutionary War. Well, back to "Halfway Branch" - on the south side of Brier Creek and above Millhaven there are two large branches leading up to the Burke County line. These are Quill Branch which is located wholly within Screven County. Then there is Mill Branch, which is located in both Screven and Burke Counties. I am presently thinking that this "Halfway Branch" of that 1787 plat must be either the modern Quill or Mill Branch. I have focused on these two branches due to a later deed in which John Michael Burkhalter sells a land parcel to Francis Paris. In it that land parcel of Burkhalter is described as being adjacent to that of Nicholas Reddick and the land of Reddick adjoins the millpond of Francis Paris. Present-day topographic maps demonstrate where the remains of that millpond's dam and millraces are situated just above the bridge at Millhaven (downstream from those two branches). The ground of the creek bottom / floodplain surrounding the creek is below 110 feet in elevati! on at the point where the dam had been constructed. Between Millhaven and the Burke County line the creek bottom / floodplain elevation increases to 110 feet about halfway to that county line. The creek bottom elevation does not rise to 120 feet until perhaps two miles into Burke County along Brier Creek. If the millpond backed up behind the dam of Paris' Mill was not exceptionally deep, then it may have extended just a mile or two upstream from the dam's location in present-day Millhaven. If eight, ten, or twelve feet in depth as it spread away from the original banks of the creek, then the millpond might have entended further upstream to the Burke County line or even beyond. It is the presence of that millpond that helps to delimit where Nicholas Reddick's land may have been located. Well, here are four plats that may actually be linked together along the south side of Brier Creek. I've listed the four in the order of dates by which they were granted and surveyed. JPEG image files of he plats and the respective descriptions of the plats are attached to this message (on the Screven County message board - the images are not viewable via the GASCREVE e-mail list). 1) John Michael Burkhalter, adjacent to William Phillips and Mordecai ('Mordicae') Sheftall. 2) William Phillips on Brier Creek; adjacent to Sheftall, J. M. Burkhalter, and himself; with Greiner's Branch passing through both of Phillips' land parcels. Note that John Greiner is shown as the owner of the land parcel surrounding the mouth of Greiner's Branch as it empties into Brier Creek. This is likely John Martin Greiner / Griner (1739 - 1807), who was my ggggg-grandfather. J. M. Burkhalter is supposed to have acquired the land or William Phillips. During the early 1790s J. M. Burkhalter sold two land parcels to Francis Paris and to the brothers Jacob & Peter Reddick. Thus, it is likely that these two parcels described in items 1 & 2 were then shortly in other hands. 3) Charles Kimbrel with vacant lands surrounding his parcel; J. M. Burkhalter being a CC for his survey. 4) Nicholas Reddick, adjacent to J. M. Burkhalter, Charles Kimbrel, & Francis Paris; both J. M. Burkhalter & Francis Paris served as CC. Above I speculated that the Halfway Branch bisecting the parcel of Nicholas Reddick might be modern Quill or Mill Branch on the south side of Brier Creek. The same may be true of Greiner's Branch, as it too may also be one of those two stream courses on the south side of Brier Creek. Here's a little bit of information about John Martin Greiner. Note that he had been granted 250 acres in St. Georges Parish (Burke County) in 1768, only 16 years following his arrival in the colony of Georgia. JOHN MARTIN [3] GREINER (PHILIP JACOB [2], JOHANN CASPAR [1]) was born 1739 in Purysburg, SC & died 1807 in Screven Co., GA. He married MARIA EISCHBERGER May 24, 1763 in Effingham Co., GA, daughter of RUPRECHT EISCHBERGER and ANNA RIEDELSBERGER. Notes for JOHN MARTIN GREINER: Arrived 3rd Swabian Transport, November, 1752. John Martin Griner, Private in GA militia; wounded in battle of Eutaw Springs, SC. Granted 250 acres of land in Burke Co., GA on June 7, 1768. Notes for MARIA EISCHBERGER: Anna Maria Eischberger (Ashberger, Eysperger) was supposed to have come from Saalfelden. Some Eischbergers of the Georgia migration came from Werfen, a village south of Salzburg city. I'm descended from John Martin & Anna Maria via their son Timothy Griner (born February 2, 1765) who married Mary Brunson. Timothy and Mary's son William Jacob Griner (born 1793) married Elizabeth Spooner. That latter couple's son James Griner married Julia Ann Waters. And that couple's daughter Annie Griner married John F. Taylor, with those folks having been my great-grandparents. Then, there's the presence of Mordecai Sheftall. By 1767 he owned 1,000 acres in what became Burke County. At the time of these plats he was still listed as the landowner of some of those lands along Brier Creek. Mordecai Sheftall had been appointed to the position of Deputy Commissary General in Georgia in 1778 (during the Revolutionary War). He was designated as a 'Great Rebel' by the British prior to their taking of Savannah in 1778 (he was captured and tortured by the British). Thus, it was Mordecai Sheftall the Revolutionary War Patriot who owned the land near J. M. Burkhalter, Francis Paris, the Reddick brothers, and others along Brier Creek. He entered into business at age 17 and by the age of 18 years of age (in 1753) he had acquired a 50 acre lot in Vernonburg (near Savannah). And fourteen years later (1767) he was in business in the future Burke & Screven Counties. The following is from the Georgia Encyclopedia. It's a partial, condensed biography of Mord! ecai Sheftall. http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-3183 "Mordecai Sheftall (1735-1797) The highest-ranking Jewish officer on the colonial side during the Revolutionary War (1775-83), Mordecai Sheftall was also successful as a merchant and shipper and as a soldier and statesman. A highly visible participant in civic activities, he was consistently recognized for his talents by authorities at every level of society and government. He was born in Savannah on December 2, 1735, to Perla and Benjamin Sheftall, who had arrived in the Georgia colony, along with about forty other Jewish immigrant families, in 1733. They sailed on the /William and Sarah/ from London, England, and the Sheftalls were founding members of Congregation Mickve Israel. Sheftall was only eleven years old when his formal education ended, for lack of schools. By the time he was seventeen, he had begun what was to be a highly successful career as a merchant, buying and tanning deerskins to sell at a profit. When he was just eighteen years old, he had accumulated enough money to purchase fifty acres in Vernonburg, near Savannah. Throughout his life, Sheftall speculated in real estate. His pre-Revolution holdings were immense. Well-connected with friends and family in mercantile and shipping in England; the Caribbean; Charleston, South Carolina; and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he developed a network of contacts to help build up his own business by his mid-twenties. Sheftall married Frances Hart, the sister of one of his Charleston merchant contacts, in 1761. The couple had six children, all but one living to adulthood. A year after their marriage, they owned 1,000 acres of land and nine slaves. Sheftall took up cattle ranching, acquiring another 1,000 acres in St. George Parish (later Burke County) in 1767 for grazing and timber harvesting. The cattle business led to his building a tanning facility with his half-brother Levi, and in 1768 the Georgia Houses of Assembly appointed him Inspector of Tanned Leather for the Port of Savannah." In the online Hollingsworth Card Catalog there is a single card entry for the Sheftall family. It notes that in 1802 the heirs of Benjamin Sheftall were receiving the lands within Screven County that had once belonged to Mordecai Sheftall (who had died in 1797). So, why am I suddenly focusing on Mordecai Sheftall, Jewish businessman from Savannah and Revolutionary War Patriot & Hero? Well, let's think a bit about the settlement of interior Burke and Screven Counties along Brier Creek. This was where a great deal of early colonial period settlement and economic development occurred in the two counties. The above description of his pre-War activities (from the Georgia Encyclopedia) places much of his economic activity in St. Georges' Parish by 1767. Sheftall is there along Brier Creek grazing cattle and harvesting timber. And what happens in 1769? The colonial miller Francis Paris leaves his milling operation on the Ogeechee River (it may have been located at Mill Creek in Bulloch County) and begins to establish a sawmill on Brier Creek just a short distance from a land parcel owned by Mordecai Sheftall. Paris operated two mills at his dam site on Brier Creek. They generated a reported 400 horsepower. There are hints that he ! had a third mill on his property at Millhaven. Why did Paris leave his Ogeechee River milling operation to start up anew on Brier Creek? Maybe he was looking for greener pastures and more virgin forests along Brier Creek. Perhaps he was invited there by a Savannah businessman who had already established a base of operations along Brier Creek. Who was the driving force behind the development of the milling complex at Paris' Milltown? Was it Francis Paris, himself - or was he invited or prompted to move his operations to Brier Creek. Who and /or what got business development started along Brier Creek? Those are some of my thoughts deriving from having looked at what appear to be four inter-connected plats of the latter 1780s along Brier Creek. Dale E. Reddick Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Randy, YOU are such a trip. It sounded like a book hubby would enjoy is why I asked. I shall look to see if I can find it. So like, do you have a list of books you are looking for???? We have a huge trade in store here I would be glad to look into for you? In your genealogy stuff do you happen to have anything on the BRADLEY surname coming from South Carolina to Georgia? Or the Ginn families in South Carolina? Maybe I need to check what the SCOTT Libraries hold when I have a brick wall. Randy Scott wrote: > Hi, Nan. The James brothers bio/history is: "Frank and Jesse James: The > Story Behind The Legend ", by Ted P. Yeatman, Cumberland House Publishing, > Nashville; 2000; 474 + pages, history/photos/maps An almost exhaustive > history of the brothers. The John wesley Harden bio/history is: " Noble > Outlaw" by Matt Braun, from the The Gunfighters Chronicles Series ' St > Martins Paperbacks, 1975. This one details the Bowen wife of John Wesley. > Tehse are a part of my vast collection of books on the American West ( > Indian lives/culture, indian wars, mountainmen era, the white man's > imncursion and development of the west; Civil War of all levels of study, > North and South;( over 700 in my collection ) Lincoln collectables and books > ( over 700 in this batch )Florida and Southern histories; The Mafia; > Baseball and other sports history; newspapers from the 1700/1800's; > philatelics and numismatics ( love those big wodrs! ) music history > especially jazz and early rock; great literature American and world ( about > 500 in this gathering ) and the study of American law and supreme court > decisions ( about 100 here ) and other interests and collections, not to > mention a plethora ofgenie and other alogy works including those i've > written/compiled ( got to catch up to Cousin scotty! ) Around 5,000 in toto > ( that means total, not Dorothy's dog! ha ha ) Randy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nan Ready" <nready@comcast.net> > To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d > 1880 Gadsden Fl > > > >> Don't step in IT Randy, >> What is this book you keep referring to sounds like an interesting read? >> >> Thanks, Nan >> >> >> Randy Scott wrote: >> >>> Cuz! I looked thru the James boys bio again this pm and there is no >>> > mention > >>> in the index ( which is very thorough ) about their father " Bob Jim " >>> > James > >>> ( Robert Salee James ) coming from Georgia. Both Frank and Jesse >>> > traveled to > >>> Atlanta several times for horse races. When they hid out in nashville >>> > they > >>> made part of theior 'honest' living off of racing their prize horses in >>> Nashville, Atlanta, Kentucky. Reverend James and his new bride, Zeralda >>> Cole, left Ky and went to Clay Co., Missouri in time for Frank to be >>> > born > >>> there in January 10,1843; Jesse on September 27, 1847; another son, >>> > Robert > >>> r. James died at birth in 1845 and a daughter, Susan Lavinia James, was >>> > born > >>> Nov. 29, 1949. Zeralda was born at Midway, Ky near Lexington, where her >>> father operated the Black Horse Tavern. rev. James dioed in the gold >>> > camps > >>> at Hangtown ( how appropriate! ) of a fever in 1850. Hangtown renamed ( >>> thank God! ) Placerville. Ambitious Chamber of Commerce behind that >>> > move > >>> I'd say! Maybe this bit of dates/sites/data will help some of you find >>> > Rev. > >>> James' origin. I mentioned i9n another e mail reply about John Wesley >>> > Harden > >>> marrying Janie Bowen. he was also on the run from the law a lot and even >>> lived here in Jacksonville and worked in a butcher shop ( appropriate >>> > for a > >>> guy with over 30 kills! ). hE was recognizeds by a railroad detective >>> > and he > >>> put the " Haul As..." on it to Charleston and then other sites before >>> relocating in SW labama at Janes' parents farm. he then began a very >>> successful timber/logging business on the river and down thru >>> > Pensacola. he > >>> was really expanding, buying lumber mills, logging opperations until >>> > again > >>> being spotted by the law and, ever once again, a serious dose of 'adios! >>> > " > >>> took over. He went back to Texas, planted a few more owlhoots before >>> > being > >>> captured. After over 20 eyars in prison he was released and became a >>> > lawyer > >>> of all things, was successful until a bit of lead penetrated his cranium >>> > in > >>> a bar, well-placed by another ne'er-do-well. my interesets in subjects >>> > of a > >>> historical nature run wide and deep and cover a hundred different >>> preferences. As some have put it " Some people have it and some >>> > don't..ol' > >>> Randy is full of it ! " Randy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <Scotti3275@aol.com> >>> To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:15 PM >>> Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d >>> 1880 Gadsden Fl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, All, >>>> >>>> My paternal grandmother, Laura Mock Scott, always insisted that >>>> > she > >>> was >>> >>> >>>> the fourth cousin of Frank and Jesse James. Now, according to Screven >>>> >>>> >>> County >>> >>> >>>> marriage records, Laura's grandfather, John A. W. Cubbedge, married >>>> > Mary > >>> Ann >>> >>> >>>> James in 1844, so that may have been so. Also, I remember reading >>>> >>>> >>> somewhere >>> >>> >>>> that Frank and Jesse's father's family were originally from Georgia, >>>> > but > >>> I >>> >>> >>>> have not been able to substantiate that. Lastly, in a letter written >>>> > in > >>> 1935 >>> >>> >>>> by my great-grandfather, John Randolph Mock, he stated that his >>>> >>>> >>> mother-in-law >>> >>> >>>> (Mary Ann Cubbedge) was "a Jewess orphan named Emanuel, who had been >>>> >>>> >>> adopted >>> >>> >>>> by the Evans family". If this is confusing to you, you can rest >>>> > assured > >>>> that I am as well! I hope that this helps someone though. Happy >>>> >>>> >>> hunting! >>> >>> >>>> Scotty >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >>>> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >>>> >>> GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi, Nan. The James brothers bio/history is: "Frank and Jesse James: The Story Behind The Legend ", by Ted P. Yeatman, Cumberland House Publishing, Nashville; 2000; 474 + pages, history/photos/maps An almost exhaustive history of the brothers. The John wesley Harden bio/history is: " Noble Outlaw" by Matt Braun, from the The Gunfighters Chronicles Series ' St Martins Paperbacks, 1975. This one details the Bowen wife of John Wesley. Tehse are a part of my vast collection of books on the American West ( Indian lives/culture, indian wars, mountainmen era, the white man's imncursion and development of the west; Civil War of all levels of study, North and South;( over 700 in my collection ) Lincoln collectables and books ( over 700 in this batch )Florida and Southern histories; The Mafia; Baseball and other sports history; newspapers from the 1700/1800's; philatelics and numismatics ( love those big wodrs! ) music history especially jazz and early rock; great literature American and world ( about 500 in this gathering ) and the study of American law and supreme court decisions ( about 100 here ) and other interests and collections, not to mention a plethora ofgenie and other alogy works including those i've written/compiled ( got to catch up to Cousin scotty! ) Around 5,000 in toto ( that means total, not Dorothy's dog! ha ha ) Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nan Ready" <nready@comcast.net> To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d 1880 Gadsden Fl > Don't step in IT Randy, > What is this book you keep referring to sounds like an interesting read? > > Thanks, Nan > > > Randy Scott wrote: > > Cuz! I looked thru the James boys bio again this pm and there is no mention > > in the index ( which is very thorough ) about their father " Bob Jim " James > > ( Robert Salee James ) coming from Georgia. Both Frank and Jesse traveled to > > Atlanta several times for horse races. When they hid out in nashville they > > made part of theior 'honest' living off of racing their prize horses in > > Nashville, Atlanta, Kentucky. Reverend James and his new bride, Zeralda > > Cole, left Ky and went to Clay Co., Missouri in time for Frank to be born > > there in January 10,1843; Jesse on September 27, 1847; another son, Robert > > r. James died at birth in 1845 and a daughter, Susan Lavinia James, was born > > Nov. 29, 1949. Zeralda was born at Midway, Ky near Lexington, where her > > father operated the Black Horse Tavern. rev. James dioed in the gold camps > > at Hangtown ( how appropriate! ) of a fever in 1850. Hangtown renamed ( > > thank God! ) Placerville. Ambitious Chamber of Commerce behind that move > > I'd say! Maybe this bit of dates/sites/data will help some of you find Rev. > > James' origin. I mentioned i9n another e mail reply about John Wesley Harden > > marrying Janie Bowen. he was also on the run from the law a lot and even > > lived here in Jacksonville and worked in a butcher shop ( appropriate for a > > guy with over 30 kills! ). hE was recognizeds by a railroad detective and he > > put the " Haul As..." on it to Charleston and then other sites before > > relocating in SW labama at Janes' parents farm. he then began a very > > successful timber/logging business on the river and down thru Pensacola. he > > was really expanding, buying lumber mills, logging opperations until again > > being spotted by the law and, ever once again, a serious dose of 'adios! " > > took over. He went back to Texas, planted a few more owlhoots before being > > captured. After over 20 eyars in prison he was released and became a lawyer > > of all things, was successful until a bit of lead penetrated his cranium in > > a bar, well-placed by another ne'er-do-well. my interesets in subjects of a > > historical nature run wide and deep and cover a hundred different > > preferences. As some have put it " Some people have it and some don't..ol' > > Randy is full of it ! " Randy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Scotti3275@aol.com> > > To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Bowen; James Alexander Bowen b 1820 Duplin NC, d > > 1880 Gadsden Fl > > > > > > > >> Hi, All, > >> > >> My paternal grandmother, Laura Mock Scott, always insisted that she > >> > > was > > > >> the fourth cousin of Frank and Jesse James. Now, according to Screven > >> > > County > > > >> marriage records, Laura's grandfather, John A. W. Cubbedge, married Mary > >> > > Ann > > > >> James in 1844, so that may have been so. Also, I remember reading > >> > > somewhere > > > >> that Frank and Jesse's father's family were originally from Georgia, but > >> > > I > > > >> have not been able to substantiate that. Lastly, in a letter written in > >> > > 1935 > > > >> by my great-grandfather, John Randolph Mock, he stated that his > >> > > mother-in-law > > > >> (Mary Ann Cubbedge) was "a Jewess orphan named Emanuel, who had been > >> > > adopted > > > >> by the Evans family". If this is confusing to you, you can rest assured > >> that I am as well! I hope that this helps someone though. Happy > >> > > hunting! > > > >> Scotty > >> > >> > >> > >> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Carol, for all the great info. I'll try to put it together and see what else I can come up with. They were part of the Young family, and it is really very large. I was thinking that these Coalsons might be related to the Screven County Colsons. -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Miller Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:05 AM To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GASCREVE] FW: Edward Blackshear Coalson;correction, Paul Coalson, Braswell connection Paul Colson was the first husband of Elizabeth Blackshear, Henry Wyche the second. Another discovery, Paul Colson was a son of Sanders Colson and Winifred Braswell, according to several sources. Winifred was a daughter of Kindred Braswell and Rhoda ukn. Juniper Hall Sr's first wife is thought to have also been a daughter of Kindred and Rhoda. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Carol Miller [mailto:cmiller20@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:57 PM To: 'gascreve@rootsweb.com' Subject: Edward Blackshear Coalson Carole, Well I did some quick checking around to refresh my memory,as these people aren't my line, just the Halls. Elizabeth Blackshear was a daughter of Edward Blackshear ane Emily Goodwin Mitchell. Her first husband was Henry Wyche and her second husband was Paul Coalson. He was born in Burke Co Ga and was a lawyer. Some sites at Rootsweb have Edward Blackshear Coalson as their son, so I think that is probably your answer. There is actually quite a bit of information on the Blackshears and some of these other families. The history of Melrose plantation is interesting, you should look it up. Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message