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    1. [GASCREVE] animated map of changing county lines
    2. Sharon Dean Lee
    3. http://www.mygeorgiagenealogy.com/ga_maps/ga_cf.htm This is a great site with an animated map of Georgia that shows the changing county lines. You can put your cursor where you thought your ancestors lived and watch the county lines change, moving your curser until you pinpoint an approximate location where the land was located once the shifting had stopped. For example, I was able to figure out where the Deans lived in Washington Co on Big Creek that also fell into Montgomery County and then into Laurens County. I was able to do the same with The shift of St George's Parish to Burke and then to Jefferson, and land in St Matthews that changed to Screven and then to Burke, etc. Have fun!

    02/10/2008 01:53:23
    1. [GASCREVE] Augusta Chronicle 1818
    2. Sheryl Padgett
    3. Augusta Chronicle, Wednesday, December 16, 1818 Burke Superior Court September Term, 1818 Present the Hon. Robert E Reid(?), Judge Georgia, Burke Co. In the Superior Court, November Term, 1818 We, the Grand Jury for the county of Burke, do present Joseph Thomas, for keeping open doors on Sabbath days, and trading with negroes. Witnesses Thomas Hatcher, David Martin, and Henry McNorrill. We also present William Royal and Maryanne Sumner, for living in adultory.(sic) Witnesses John Wimberly and Seaborn Royal. We also present Moses Mulkey & Charlotte Godfrey for living in adultry.(sic) Witnesses Alford Godbee, Isaac Mulkey, Jesse Grigory. We also present Moses Wright and Elizabeth Horsford for living in adultery (sic). Witnesses Jacob Clemonts, Maryan Clemonts. We also present Mary Cammell as a common scold and a disturber of the peaceful inhabitants of the county. Witnesses George Gough, William Palmar, Amos Wiggins, Samuel Tarver, Math Carswell, James Todd. We also prsent as aggrievance, the unprecedented number of pedlars hawking about goods in our county, and the state generally, to the great injury of our settled merchants and citizens at large, for the following reasons, ( to wit)-- They funish very few really useful or sustantial articles to the Planter; but goods of the slightest texture or fabrick (sic), and those frequently damaged. They carry a great amount of cash out of our state anually, which if left with our citizens would return to circuation again. Secondly, they do not pay as much tax as a regular settled merchant, by fifty to one hundred per cent; besides they cannot be compelled to bear other burthens as imposed by the state, which our citizens are subject to; such as extra taxes for county purposes, doing militia duty, working on roads, &c. We can but express the solicitude we feel in relation to the salaries of our public officers, and especially as regards the salaries of the Judges of the Superior Courts. When we take into view the situation of this country, and the prices of produce, and the expenses of living at the time the salaries of public officers were fixed and established, with the state of things at this time; and when we take into view the additional duty that have devolved on the judicial department, we can but express a desire to see their salaries increased. We therefore request the Senator and Representatives of this county, to use their exertions on the Legislature now in session, if compatible with their opinions, to have this desirable object accomplished. We feel it is a duty incumbent on us to express our thanks to his honor Judge Reid, for his promptitude in suppressing all disorderly and immoral conduct taking place under the eye of the court, and for his dilligence and assiduity in discharging the functions of his office. We further recommend that the Clerk be directed to have these presentments published; and also be directed to furnish each of the members elected from this county to the legislature now in session, with a copy of the presentment relating to Pedlars, and the recommendation for the increase of the Judges salaries. John Whitehead, Foreman Thos. Scarborough, Josiah Lewis, John Royal, Reuben Turner, Elisha Anderson, Thomas Byne, Joseph Perry, John Davis, Wm. Barron, James Stringer, Robert Ellison, Bayley Carpenter, Philip Lumpkin, Harman Byrd, Elijah Walker, Wm,. Mulkey, Xach. L. Fryer, It is ordered that so much of the said presentments as relates to violations of the law, be laid before the Attorney General; that so much thereof relates to Pedlars, and Public Salaries be copied and transmitted to the honorable the Senator and Members of the House of Representatives in the General Assembly of the county of Burke; and that the said presentments be published in the Augusta Chronicle. Extract from the minutes John Carpenter, Cl'k ________________________________________________________________ Notice: Whereas my wife Ann has left home wothout my consent and contrary to my express order--- These are therefore prohibiting any person or persons from harboring or crediting her on my account, as I am determined not to pay any debts contracted by her. Alexander Stewart December 16 (1818) ___________________________________________________________________ Transcribed by Sheryl Seymour Padgett, HillisGa@bellsouth.net, 2-9-08

    02/09/2008 04:02:54
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Philip Jacob Greiner & Catherine Magdalene Greiner
    2. Dale E. Reddick
    3. Hi Lena, I just don't know. This is a guess. I have to think that Philip Jacob Greiner was a blood relative of Catherine Magedelene(a) Greiner. Is Bob Griner a subscriber to this list? Perhaps he could answer this question regarding Cathe. Mage. Greiner. Dale ___________________________________ JRA wrote: > Dia duit Dale, > > I know you know a lot about the history of our state so you may be able to answer this, though it may also sound like a ridiculous question. > > I know a woman could inherit land from a male relative but could a woman of age purchase land back in those days? I was thinking perhaps Catherine could be Grandfather Philips wife & that if woman could not buy land he bought it for her, of if they could he could have been her representative if they needed a male representative in order to purchase land. > > Do you happen to know of website that would say what the laws of old Georgia were? > > Sincerely, > Lena > > "Dale E. Reddick" <dereddi@hargray.com> wrote: > Hi Lena, > > Bob Griner in his family section F152 on page 161 of the Screven County > History has a Mary Magdalena Greiner born in 1735 to Philip Jacob > Greiner and his unknown wife. She married George Michel Weber on > November 26, 1754. > > In section F154 (page 161) Bob notes that Captain John Casper Greiner > married first to Caroline Magdalene (Greve) Borneman. > > That couple did have a daughter named Caroline Magdelene Griner born > January 6, 1804 who married Moses N. McCall on April 4, 1820. She died > in 1835. The information regarding her appears on page 162 of the SCH > in section F154. > > None of those listed above have the same name as your Catherine > Magdalene Greiner. But, it certainly does appear as though that middle > name of Magdalene / Magdelene is a repeated given name usage amongst the > Greiner / Griner family. > > Dale > ____________________________________ > > JRA wrote: > >> > While looking for information on my Uncle Andrew Greiner I came across some old postings that Mr. Sampson posted about St. George Parish & one imparticular caught my eye for it mentions my sixth great-grandfather Philip Jacob Greiner: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAEMANUE/2002-03/1016893750 >> > >> > From: "Terry Sampson" < DisplayMail('worldnet.att.net','zei'); zei@worldnet.att.net> >> > Subject: [GAEMANUE-L] Early St. George Parish 2 >> > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:29:10 -0800 >> > From: >> > >> > Georgia Land Owners' Memorials: 1758 - 1776 >> > Abstracted by Eve B. Weeks and Robert S. Lowery >> > Mary Bondurant Warren, Editor >> > Copyright 1988 by Mary Bondurant Warren >> > Heritage Papers, Danielsville, GA 30633 >> > >> > Page 54 >> > #250 Philip Jacob Greiner for Cathe. Mage. Greiner, >> > 500 acres, 2/100, 10-12-1761. St. George's Parish: >> > Bounded on N by Theobald Keifer, W by Savannah >> > River, S by Benjamin Wm. Borneman, W vacant, >> > granted to Catherine Magdalene Greiner 4-13-1761. >> > >> > Does anyone know who Catherine Magdalene Greiner is? I am unable to find mention of her in the tree I have & Grandfather Philip did not have a daughter named Catherine so that rules this being his daughter out. I was thinking perhaps this is his unknown wife? >> > >> > Thank You, >> > Lena

    02/09/2008 11:42:31
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help
    2. Sharon Broward Davis
    3. Do you know about when Mary Lee Griner may have been born, where and names of any brothers or sisters? Sharon Broward Davis -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of joel kamalakis Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:17 PM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help I'm looking for Mary Lee Griner, if anyone should know information about her. She married to Waters family. Later married to Tippy family. Last resident in Tampa Florida. I'm looking for Birth, Death and anything else. Sharon Broward Davis wrote: > Hello fellow Griner researchers. My husband also descends from Emanuel > Griner who married Nancy Hancock. He descends through the son Samuel Griner > who had son John E. > > Sharon > > -----Original Message----- > From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of JRA > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:30 PM > To: gascreve@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help > > Dia duit Dale, > > Yes, my Griner's have ties to Burke County. My line is: Johann Sr.; > Philip Jacob whose wife is still unknown to my knowledge & died 1801 Burke > County; John Martin who married Maria Eischb(p)erger (Burke County to > Screven); Emanuel who married Nancy Ann Hancock (both died in Nashville, > Berrien County; owned the land on which Nashville was built); Martin Jasper > who married Oliff Missouri Nash; Ernest Carraway/Carroll Griner who married > Nancy Mildred 'Mib' 'Memom' Bailey of Dodge County, moved down to Valdosta, > Lowndes County where our Griner cousins the Langdale's also lived; & my > grandfather who will be ninety this July, E. R. Griner; & Mom to myself. > > Sincerely, > Lena > > "Dale E. Reddick" <dereddi@hargray.com> wrote: > Hi Lena, > > Bob Griner has been working on the Greiner / Griner folks of Burke and > Screven Counties for quite a long time. I trust his work. > > Only if your Griner ancestor was a Greiner from the northern part of > Burke County (adjacent to Richmond County) and from around Blythe should > you have any concern about which Griner you might descend from. Those > Greiner folks from around Blythe were descended from one of two Greiner > brothers who came to Georgia from New Jersey (if I'm recalling matters > correctly). I grew up in rural Richmond County and knew members of that > Greiner family from Blythe. Which is in contrast to my own Griner > (Greiner) ancestry in Screven and Burke Counties. > > Go to the Griner boards on both RootsWeb and GenForum and run some searches. > > Best of all, trust Bob Griner's analyses. Some others have come up with > alternative interpretations for the origins of the Greiner / Griner > folks (originally found in Purrysburg, SC) and they haven't fared too well. > > Dale E. Reddick (great-grandson of Annie Griner Taylor) > ___________________________________ > > JRA wrote: > >> Hello y'all, hope everyone is doing well? >> >> I asked the question to the Wiregrass mailing list but thought I would ask >> > on the Screven list as well since I know I have plenty of Griner cousins > down that way. > >> I decided to start researching my Griner family again & anew being a >> > direct Griner descendant (Mom's maiden-name is Griner) & Johann is my > seventh great-grandfather so I am starting with him. Plugging him into > Google I found him listed on a website, immigrantships.net, as arriving 3rd > Swabian Transport (11) Arrival - November 1752, Ship Unknown, Captain Brown. > With Grandfather Johann were: Johann Casper II (child), Johann Martin & > Maria Magdalena. > >> My confusion is this. Bob Griner states Johann arrived in this same year, >> > but he also has two other children listed, Andreas & my Philip Jacob Griner > but they are not mentioned in this list. He also my fourth great-grandfather > John Martin Griner as being born 1739 in Purysburg, South Carolina but that > does not make sense if Johann did not get here until 1752. He also has the > above Maria as Mary & being born 1735 in South Carolina, but she was on the > ship with him. > >> Am I missing something, did Johann go back to his homeland for a while >> > then return in 1752? > >> I would greatly appreciate in help in sorting this out for I am throughly >> > confused. > >> Sincerely, >> Lena >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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    02/09/2008 10:40:06
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Philip Jacob Greiner & Catherine Magdalene Greiner
    2. Dale E. Reddick
    3. Hi Lena, Bob Griner in his family section F152 on page 161 of the Screven County History has a Mary Magdalena Greiner born in 1735 to Philip Jacob Greiner and his unknown wife. She married George Michel Weber on November 26, 1754. In section F154 (page 161) Bob notes that Captain John Casper Greiner married first to Caroline Magdalene (Greve) Borneman. That couple did have a daughter named Caroline Magdelene Griner born January 6, 1804 who married Moses N. McCall on April 4, 1820. She died in 1835. The information regarding her appears on page 162 of the SCH in section F154. None of those listed above have the same name as your Catherine Magdalene Greiner. But, it certainly does appear as though that middle name of Magdalene / Magdelene is a repeated given name usage amongst the Greiner / Griner family. Dale ____________________________________ JRA wrote: > While looking for information on my Uncle Andrew Greiner I came across some old postings that Mr. Sampson posted about St. George Parish & one imparticular caught my eye for it mentions my sixth great-grandfather Philip Jacob Greiner: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAEMANUE/2002-03/1016893750 > > From: "Terry Sampson" < DisplayMail('&#119;&#111;&#114;&#108;&#100;&#110;&#101;&#116;&#46;&#97;&#116;&#116;&#46;&#110;&#101;&#116;','&#122;&#101;&#105;'); zei@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: [GAEMANUE-L] Early St. George Parish 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:29:10 -0800 > From: > > Georgia Land Owners' Memorials: 1758 - 1776 > Abstracted by Eve B. Weeks and Robert S. Lowery > Mary Bondurant Warren, Editor > Copyright 1988 by Mary Bondurant Warren > Heritage Papers, Danielsville, GA 30633 > > Page 54 > #250 Philip Jacob Greiner for Cathe. Mage. Greiner, > 500 acres, 2/100, 10-12-1761. St. George's Parish: > Bounded on N by Theobald Keifer, W by Savannah > River, S by Benjamin Wm. Borneman, W vacant, > granted to Catherine Magdalene Greiner 4-13-1761. > > Does anyone know who Catherine Magdalene Greiner is? I am unable to find mention of her in the tree I have & Grandfather Philip did not have a daughter named Catherine so that rules this being his daughter out. I was thinking perhaps this is his unknown wife? > > Thank You, > Lena >

    02/09/2008 10:27:24
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Screven County, Georgia
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ncfidler_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.screven/238.762.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, What was your ggrandfather's name? What's your husbands name? I have a lot on both. I will make copies and send them to you if we are related to the same people. My Herrington line goes back to Job Herrington - several generations back. My Thompson line decends from Morgan Jack Thompson and his wife Emma Jane Lawther Thompson. Do these names sound familier? Nancy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/09/2008 09:16:59
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co.
    2. Carole, Black Creek runs down from Screven through Bulloch to Ellabell, and on down into Bryan County. There is actually a Black Creek Community right where I-16 used to start towards Savannah in the "old days". Hope that this helps. Happy hunting! Scotty **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

    02/09/2008 08:38:47
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Philip Jacob Greiner & Catherine Magdalene Greiner
    2. JRA
    3. Dia duit Dale, I know you know a lot about the history of our state so you may be able to answer this, though it may also sound like a ridiculous question. I know a woman could inherit land from a male relative but could a woman of age purchase land back in those days? I was thinking perhaps Catherine could be Grandfather Philips wife & that if woman could not buy land he bought it for her, of if they could he could have been her representative if they needed a male representative in order to purchase land. Do you happen to know of website that would say what the laws of old Georgia were? Sincerely, Lena "Dale E. Reddick" <dereddi@hargray.com> wrote: Hi Lena, Bob Griner in his family section F152 on page 161 of the Screven County History has a Mary Magdalena Greiner born in 1735 to Philip Jacob Greiner and his unknown wife. She married George Michel Weber on November 26, 1754. In section F154 (page 161) Bob notes that Captain John Casper Greiner married first to Caroline Magdalene (Greve) Borneman. That couple did have a daughter named Caroline Magdelene Griner born January 6, 1804 who married Moses N. McCall on April 4, 1820. She died in 1835. The information regarding her appears on page 162 of the SCH in section F154. None of those listed above have the same name as your Catherine Magdalene Greiner. But, it certainly does appear as though that middle name of Magdalene / Magdelene is a repeated given name usage amongst the Greiner / Griner family. Dale ____________________________________ JRA wrote: > While looking for information on my Uncle Andrew Greiner I came across some old postings that Mr. Sampson posted about St. George Parish & one imparticular caught my eye for it mentions my sixth great-grandfather Philip Jacob Greiner: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAEMANUE/2002-03/1016893750 > > From: "Terry Sampson" < DisplayMail('worldnet.att.net','zei'); zei@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: [GAEMANUE-L] Early St. George Parish 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:29:10 -0800 > From: > > Georgia Land Owners' Memorials: 1758 - 1776 > Abstracted by Eve B. Weeks and Robert S. Lowery > Mary Bondurant Warren, Editor > Copyright 1988 by Mary Bondurant Warren > Heritage Papers, Danielsville, GA 30633 > > Page 54 > #250 Philip Jacob Greiner for Cathe. Mage. Greiner, > 500 acres, 2/100, 10-12-1761. St. George's Parish: > Bounded on N by Theobald Keifer, W by Savannah > River, S by Benjamin Wm. Borneman, W vacant, > granted to Catherine Magdalene Greiner 4-13-1761. > > Does anyone know who Catherine Magdalene Greiner is? I am unable to find mention of her in the tree I have & Grandfather Philip did not have a daughter named Catherine so that rules this being his daughter out. I was thinking perhaps this is his unknown wife? > > Thank You, > Lena > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

    02/09/2008 08:23:02
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co.
    2. Dale E. Reddick
    3. Hey Carole, Try figuring out which Little Ogeechee River it is making an appearance in a plat from circa the 1790s through early 1800s. 1) Is it the Little Ogeechee River in Chatham and Effingham Counties? 2) Is it the Little Ogeechee River in Screven County (now known as Ogeechee Creek)? 3) Or is it the Little Ogeechee River in Hancock & Washington Counties? Then there's Eden (in southwest Effingham County) versus Eden's Gardens (1760s period Eatton's Gardens) along the Ogeechee River in Bulloch County. Confusion is often worse than a dead end... Dale ___________________________________ Carole Drexel wrote: > Oh bother Dale...another dead end... > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:37 PM > To: gascreve@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co. > > Hey Carole, > > One Black Creek starts around Statesboro, with Upper Black Creek passing > by Brooklet. Most of the creek's drainage runs south between US 80 and > I-16. It enters Bryan County and joins the Ogeechee just south of the > I-16 bridge over the river. > > The other Black Creek is in eastern Screven County and starts at White > Hill on GA 21, running eastwards to the Savannah River. > > It can be worse, too. There's both a Jackson Branch in eastern Screven > Co. and another Jackson Branch in western Screven Co. > > Dale > ___________________________________ > > Carole Drexel wrote: > >> Even though this is in Bulloch County, GA, I was really surprised to find >> that William Henderson was an adjoining land owner. >> Can anyone tell me where this part of Black Creek is? Does Black Creek go >> through both counties? >> >> Carole >> >>

    02/09/2008 07:02:20
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co.
    2. Dale E. Reddick
    3. Hey Carole, One Black Creek starts around Statesboro, with Upper Black Creek passing by Brooklet. Most of the creek's drainage runs south between US 80 and I-16. It enters Bryan County and joins the Ogeechee just south of the I-16 bridge over the river. The other Black Creek is in eastern Screven County and starts at White Hill on GA 21, running eastwards to the Savannah River. It can be worse, too. There's both a Jackson Branch in eastern Screven Co. and another Jackson Branch in western Screven Co. Dale ___________________________________ Carole Drexel wrote: > Even though this is in Bulloch County, GA, I was really surprised to find > that William Henderson was an adjoining land owner. > Can anyone tell me where this part of Black Creek is? Does Black Creek go > through both counties? > > Carole > > Bulloch County GaArchives Deed.....Nessbrook, Sovreign (resurvey) - > Woodcock, Canon & Others 1878 > ************************************************ > Copyright. All rights reserved. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm > ************************************************ > > File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: > Bill Frazier fishtrap@bellsouth.net March 13, 2006, 10:17 am > > Black Creek > Written: 1878 > > Bulloch County Georgia > Superior Court > Deeds-Mortgages > Black Creek > > PLAT > 1878, January 23-24--- I hereby certify that the above plat is a true > representation of 822 acres originally granted to William Woodcock, Canon > and others. Resurveying plat notes Sovreign Nessmith as owner. > Bounded by William Henderson, William Anderson, John Neesmith, George > Richardson, Elisha Kennedy and Jefferson Bird. [notes house on road in > center of property & Prong of Black Creek on the North side] >

    02/09/2008 06:37:09
    1. [GASCREVE] Philip Jacob Greiner & Catherine Magdalene Greiner
    2. JRA
    3. While looking for information on my Uncle Andrew Greiner I came across some old postings that Mr. Sampson posted about St. George Parish & one imparticular caught my eye for it mentions my sixth great-grandfather Philip Jacob Greiner: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GAEMANUE/2002-03/1016893750 From: "Terry Sampson" < DisplayMail('&#119;&#111;&#114;&#108;&#100;&#110;&#101;&#116;&#46;&#97;&#116;&#116;&#46;&#110;&#101;&#116;','&#122;&#101;&#105;'); zei@worldnet.att.net> Subject: [GAEMANUE-L] Early St. George Parish 2 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:29:10 -0800 From: Georgia Land Owners' Memorials: 1758 - 1776 Abstracted by Eve B. Weeks and Robert S. Lowery Mary Bondurant Warren, Editor Copyright 1988 by Mary Bondurant Warren Heritage Papers, Danielsville, GA 30633 Page 54 #250 Philip Jacob Greiner for Cathe. Mage. Greiner, 500 acres, 2/100, 10-12-1761. St. George's Parish: Bounded on N by Theobald Keifer, W by Savannah River, S by Benjamin Wm. Borneman, W vacant, granted to Catherine Magdalene Greiner 4-13-1761. Does anyone know who Catherine Magdalene Greiner is? I am unable to find mention of her in the tree I have & Grandfather Philip did not have a daughter named Catherine so that rules this being his daughter out. I was thinking perhaps this is his unknown wife? Thank You, Lena --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

    02/09/2008 06:01:08
    1. [GASCREVE] Mary L. Griner
    2. Mary L. Griner (1796-1869) married Elhannah/Elhannon McCall in Bullock County on 17 March 1822. Looking for parents of Elhannon. INfo appreciated. Clint McCall **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

    02/09/2008 05:57:04
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co.
    2. Carole Drexel
    3. Oh bother Dale...another dead end... Carole -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:37 PM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co. Hey Carole, One Black Creek starts around Statesboro, with Upper Black Creek passing by Brooklet. Most of the creek's drainage runs south between US 80 and I-16. It enters Bryan County and joins the Ogeechee just south of the I-16 bridge over the river. The other Black Creek is in eastern Screven County and starts at White Hill on GA 21, running eastwards to the Savannah River. It can be worse, too. There's both a Jackson Branch in eastern Screven Co. and another Jackson Branch in western Screven Co. Dale ___________________________________ Carole Drexel wrote: > Even though this is in Bulloch County, GA, I was really surprised to find > that William Henderson was an adjoining land owner. > Can anyone tell me where this part of Black Creek is? Does Black Creek go > through both counties? > > Carole > > Bulloch County GaArchives Deed.....Nessbrook, Sovreign (resurvey) - > Woodcock, Canon & Others 1878 > ************************************************ > Copyright. All rights reserved. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm > ************************************************ > > File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: > Bill Frazier fishtrap@bellsouth.net March 13, 2006, 10:17 am > > Black Creek > Written: 1878 > > Bulloch County Georgia > Superior Court > Deeds-Mortgages > Black Creek > > PLAT > 1878, January 23-24--- I hereby certify that the above plat is a true > representation of 822 acres originally granted to William Woodcock, Canon > and others. Resurveying plat notes Sovreign Nessmith as owner. > Bounded by William Henderson, William Anderson, John Neesmith, George > Richardson, Elisha Kennedy and Jefferson Bird. [notes house on road in > center of property & Prong of Black Creek on the North side] > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2008 05:38:24
    1. [GASCREVE] Jesse Slater family
    2. Carole Drexel
    3. Does anyone know the family of Jesse Slater? Dates, wife, children? Carole

    02/09/2008 05:25:26
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help
    2. joel kamalakis
    3. I'm looking for Mary Lee Griner, if anyone should know information about her. She married to Waters family. Later married to Tippy family. Last resident in Tampa Florida. I'm looking for Birth, Death and anything else. Sharon Broward Davis wrote: > Hello fellow Griner researchers. My husband also descends from Emanuel > Griner who married Nancy Hancock. He descends through the son Samuel Griner > who had son John E. > > Sharon > > -----Original Message----- > From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of JRA > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:30 PM > To: gascreve@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help > > Dia duit Dale, > > Yes, my Griner's have ties to Burke County. My line is: Johann Sr.; > Philip Jacob whose wife is still unknown to my knowledge & died 1801 Burke > County; John Martin who married Maria Eischb(p)erger (Burke County to > Screven); Emanuel who married Nancy Ann Hancock (both died in Nashville, > Berrien County; owned the land on which Nashville was built); Martin Jasper > who married Oliff Missouri Nash; Ernest Carraway/Carroll Griner who married > Nancy Mildred 'Mib' 'Memom' Bailey of Dodge County, moved down to Valdosta, > Lowndes County where our Griner cousins the Langdale's also lived; & my > grandfather who will be ninety this July, E. R. Griner; & Mom to myself. > > Sincerely, > Lena > > "Dale E. Reddick" <dereddi@hargray.com> wrote: > Hi Lena, > > Bob Griner has been working on the Greiner / Griner folks of Burke and > Screven Counties for quite a long time. I trust his work. > > Only if your Griner ancestor was a Greiner from the northern part of > Burke County (adjacent to Richmond County) and from around Blythe should > you have any concern about which Griner you might descend from. Those > Greiner folks from around Blythe were descended from one of two Greiner > brothers who came to Georgia from New Jersey (if I'm recalling matters > correctly). I grew up in rural Richmond County and knew members of that > Greiner family from Blythe. Which is in contrast to my own Griner > (Greiner) ancestry in Screven and Burke Counties. > > Go to the Griner boards on both RootsWeb and GenForum and run some searches. > > Best of all, trust Bob Griner's analyses. Some others have come up with > alternative interpretations for the origins of the Greiner / Griner > folks (originally found in Purrysburg, SC) and they haven't fared too well. > > Dale E. Reddick (great-grandson of Annie Griner Taylor) > ___________________________________ > > JRA wrote: > >> Hello y'all, hope everyone is doing well? >> >> I asked the question to the Wiregrass mailing list but thought I would ask >> > on the Screven list as well since I know I have plenty of Griner cousins > down that way. > >> I decided to start researching my Griner family again & anew being a >> > direct Griner descendant (Mom's maiden-name is Griner) & Johann is my > seventh great-grandfather so I am starting with him. Plugging him into > Google I found him listed on a website, immigrantships.net, as arriving 3rd > Swabian Transport (11) Arrival - November 1752, Ship Unknown, Captain Brown. > With Grandfather Johann were: Johann Casper II (child), Johann Martin & > Maria Magdalena. > >> My confusion is this. Bob Griner states Johann arrived in this same year, >> > but he also has two other children listed, Andreas & my Philip Jacob Griner > but they are not mentioned in this list. He also my fourth great-grandfather > John Martin Griner as being born 1739 in Purysburg, South Carolina but that > does not make sense if Johann did not get here until 1752. He also has the > above Maria as Mary & being born 1735 in South Carolina, but she was on the > ship with him. > >> Am I missing something, did Johann go back to his homeland for a while >> > then return in 1752? > >> I would greatly appreciate in help in sorting this out for I am throughly >> > confused. > >> Sincerely, >> Lena >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    02/09/2008 05:16:47
    1. [GASCREVE] Black Creek-Bulloch Co.
    2. Carole Drexel
    3. Even though this is in Bulloch County, GA, I was really surprised to find that William Henderson was an adjoining land owner. Can anyone tell me where this part of Black Creek is? Does Black Creek go through both counties? Carole Bulloch County GaArchives Deed.....Nessbrook, Sovreign (resurvey) - Woodcock, Canon & Others 1878 ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ga/gafiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Bill Frazier fishtrap@bellsouth.net March 13, 2006, 10:17 am Black Creek Written: 1878 Bulloch County Georgia Superior Court Deeds-Mortgages Black Creek PLAT 1878, January 23-24--- I hereby certify that the above plat is a true representation of 822 acres originally granted to William Woodcock, Canon and others. Resurveying plat notes Sovreign Nessmith as owner. Bounded by William Henderson, William Anderson, John Neesmith, George Richardson, Elisha Kennedy and Jefferson Bird. [notes house on road in center of property & Prong of Black Creek on the North side] Witnesses; s/ Adam Jones Noah Neesmith Surveyor John Neesmith 26/36 Bulloch County Deed Book `*FN: 59 File at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/bulloch/deeds/woodcock371gdd.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.org/gafiles/ File size: 1.2 Kb

    02/09/2008 05:15:30
    1. [GASCREVE] Hezekiah Evans m. Sarah Moore
    2. Carole Drexel
    3. Alex, who were the parents of Hezekiah Evans? And did he have siblings? Thanks, Carole

    02/09/2008 04:46:36
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Francis Paris land forfeitures & tax sales
    2. Howard Griffin
    3. Very Interesting!!!! I am especially interested in the slaves that were sold as I have good evidence that my Paris ancestry may have been slaves at Millhaven plantation. Any other references to slave in these documents would be of tremendous interest to me! If you can direct me to where I can find may be more information, it would be greatly appreciated Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dale E. Reddick Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:26 PM To: paris@rootsweb.com; parris@rootsweb.com; gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: [GASCREVE] Francis Paris land forfeitures & tax sales Hi Folks, The following appeared on the GABURKE (Burke County, Georgia) e-mail list. Since I'm the Paris -and- the Parris list admin, along with being a GASCREVE (Screven County, Georgia) list member - then I thought that these messages should be shared with such lists. I do happen to know that Francis Paris sold his mill property on Brier Creek to Augusta attorney Seaborn Jones in 1795. So, some or all of the described sheriff's property sales was cancelled prior to 1795. However, other such property / tax sales may be new to us. Dale E. Reddick On Behalf Of sherylpadgett Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:48 PM To: GABURKE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GABURKE] Augusta Chronicle Here are three more notices for you Paris researchers: Augusta Chronicle, Edition 1-25-1794 "Sheriff's Sales. On the first Tuesday in February next, at the Court-House in Burke county, WILL BE SOLD, The following Tracts of Land, to wit, ONE thousand acres whereon Francis Paris resides, including his saw-mills, Grist-mill and other improvements ; seized under execution as the property of said Paris. Two hundred acres whereon Philip Sapp now resides ; seized under execution against William Lord and Philip Sapp, as the property of said Sapp. -Also 200 acres of land, more or less, whereon Thomas Little now resides ; seized under execution as the property of said Little. 11OO acres of land, adjoining James Howard - , Also 350 acres of land, adjoining the old town on Ogechee river} under execution as the property of Patrick Carr. Likewise a negroe fellow named Jem*, under execution as the property of John Sharp, senior, Terms CASH. D. EVANS, S. B. C\ December 14, 1793. ___________________________________________________________ Augusta Chronicle edition 3-1-1794 ~~S~H E R I F F ' s SALES. On the first Tuesday in April next, at the Court-House in Burke county, WILL BE SOLD, A TRACT of Land containing 355 acres, next or joining the old town, on Ogechee river. Also 1150 acres, joining James Howard's land: seized .as the property of Patrick Carr. likewise, 3170 acres of pine land, including the improvements, and saw-mills whereon Francis Paris now resides and'ten negroes; seized under execution as the property of said Paris. Also a negroe fellow, named Will with his wife and child.-seized as the property of Hezekiah Wade. Former sales not. complied with. Terms CASH D.EVANS. S.B.C. Feb. 14, 1794. _____________________________________________ Augusta Chronicle edition 3-7-1801 COLLECTOR'S SALES. At the court house in Waynesborough, Burke County, on Saturday the 9th of May, at the usual hours: WILL BE SOLD, 100 acres of land on Savannah river, Burke county; the property of Francis Paris, sen. taken to satisfy his tax for 1799; tax D.4 7 1/2 cents, with cost. 2oo acres pine land in Scriven county, returned by Edmund Roberts, and taken to satisfy his tax for 1799. One house and lot in the town of Waynesborough, returned by Wiliam S. Smith; taken to satisfy his tax for 1799. JOHN BROOME, r. c. March i. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2008 03:10:10
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] John Ruel Evans' family
    2. Carole Drexel
    3. Thank you, Alex. -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ALEX LEE Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:07 AM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] John Ruel Evans' family ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Drexel" <drexel410@att.net> To: <gascreve@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: [GASCREVE] John Ruel Evans' family > John Ruel Evans20DEC1820-23MAY1902 and Sarah Elizabeth Lucas > 5JUL1827-25APR1915, married 22 Dec 1844, Screven > County, GA, > > 1. Had son John Ruel Evans, Jr.3OCT1845-21DEC1930-who did he marry? MARY CLARILIE ROBBINS 12FEB1850-14APR1924 (called Mittie, she was sister of James Marion Robbins) > > 2. Had son James Hezekiah Evans3AUG1847-11FEB1918-who did he marry? THERESA (Trissie) ZEIGLER 27 JUL 1844-17MAY1919 > > 3. Had daughter Sara Elizabeth Evans16JUN1849-30APR1922-, m. James Boston > Morgan 26DEC1834-12OCT1903 MARRIED 27 January > 1869 in Screven Co., GA; > > 4. Had son William Ellison Evans24NOV1851-5AUG1910 m. 10 Feb 1878 > SOPHRONIA (FRONIE) CAIL 16NOV1858-4FEB1936 (sister to Martha Cail); > > 5. Had son Charles Evans26MAR 1853-20JUL1885mar-who did he marry? ALICE (Tunie) CAIL 2Feb1858-26Aug1922 > > 6. Had son Herschel V. J. Evans26MAR1855-25NOV1919 m. (1) 0 Feb 1878 > MARTHA (Mattie) CAIL 20MAR1862-11JUN1887in > Screven Co., GA, (2) Idella Della Newton 1JAN1863-9JUL1955 MARRIED17 May > 1888 in Screven Co., GA; > > 7. Had son Ruel Evans-who did he marry? > 27JAN1857-4JAN1860 > 8. Had daughter Anna Jane Evans1JAN1859-28DEC1946 m. 19 Jan 1882 JAMES > MARION ROBBINS 27APR1852-15OCT1930in > Screven Co., GA; > > 9. Had daughter Evalina (Sweetie) Evans 28APR1861-2MAY1846 m. (1) James > J. Downing 8APR1853-16OCT1887in Screven > Co, GA, (2) Robert L. Poythress 2JAN1867-10FEB1935 married 11 Jan > 1890 in Scrven Co., GA; > > 10 Had daughter Martha Humphries Evans20Dec1863-31Aug1872-who did she > marry? never married, was an invalid, died young > > 11. Had son Hezekiah Evans7APR1866-23JUL1885-never married > > 12. Had daughter Magnolia Evans 12APR1868-14MAR1931 m. Edward > Sowell11FEB1855-11FEB1929 MARRIED 21 Jan 1886 in Screven > Co., GA; > > 13. Had daughter Jessamine Evans5MAR1871-31AUG1950 m. Henry Newton Moore > 8MAY1868-12JAN1900 MARRIED 27 January 1889 in > Screven Co., GA >14. DAHLIA EVANS 8OCT1873-23 MAR1951 married Henry Stirling McCall 23 >Feb1872-6May1852 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2008 01:29:02
    1. Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help
    2. Sharon Broward Davis
    3. Hello fellow Griner researchers. My husband also descends from Emanuel Griner who married Nancy Hancock. He descends through the son Samuel Griner who had son John E. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gascreve-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JRA Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:30 PM To: gascreve@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Griner Family Help Dia duit Dale, Yes, my Griner's have ties to Burke County. My line is: Johann Sr.; Philip Jacob whose wife is still unknown to my knowledge & died 1801 Burke County; John Martin who married Maria Eischb(p)erger (Burke County to Screven); Emanuel who married Nancy Ann Hancock (both died in Nashville, Berrien County; owned the land on which Nashville was built); Martin Jasper who married Oliff Missouri Nash; Ernest Carraway/Carroll Griner who married Nancy Mildred 'Mib' 'Memom' Bailey of Dodge County, moved down to Valdosta, Lowndes County where our Griner cousins the Langdale's also lived; & my grandfather who will be ninety this July, E. R. Griner; & Mom to myself. Sincerely, Lena "Dale E. Reddick" <dereddi@hargray.com> wrote: Hi Lena, Bob Griner has been working on the Greiner / Griner folks of Burke and Screven Counties for quite a long time. I trust his work. Only if your Griner ancestor was a Greiner from the northern part of Burke County (adjacent to Richmond County) and from around Blythe should you have any concern about which Griner you might descend from. Those Greiner folks from around Blythe were descended from one of two Greiner brothers who came to Georgia from New Jersey (if I'm recalling matters correctly). I grew up in rural Richmond County and knew members of that Greiner family from Blythe. Which is in contrast to my own Griner (Greiner) ancestry in Screven and Burke Counties. Go to the Griner boards on both RootsWeb and GenForum and run some searches. Best of all, trust Bob Griner's analyses. Some others have come up with alternative interpretations for the origins of the Greiner / Griner folks (originally found in Purrysburg, SC) and they haven't fared too well. Dale E. Reddick (great-grandson of Annie Griner Taylor) ___________________________________ JRA wrote: > Hello y'all, hope everyone is doing well? > > I asked the question to the Wiregrass mailing list but thought I would ask on the Screven list as well since I know I have plenty of Griner cousins down that way. > > I decided to start researching my Griner family again & anew being a direct Griner descendant (Mom's maiden-name is Griner) & Johann is my seventh great-grandfather so I am starting with him. Plugging him into Google I found him listed on a website, immigrantships.net, as arriving 3rd Swabian Transport (11) Arrival - November 1752, Ship Unknown, Captain Brown. With Grandfather Johann were: Johann Casper II (child), Johann Martin & Maria Magdalena. > > My confusion is this. Bob Griner states Johann arrived in this same year, but he also has two other children listed, Andreas & my Philip Jacob Griner but they are not mentioned in this list. He also my fourth great-grandfather John Martin Griner as being born 1739 in Purysburg, South Carolina but that does not make sense if Johann did not get here until 1752. He also has the above Maria as Mary & being born 1735 in South Carolina, but she was on the ship with him. > > Am I missing something, did Johann go back to his homeland for a while then return in 1752? > > I would greatly appreciate in help in sorting this out for I am throughly confused. > > Sincerely, > Lena > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GASCREVE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2008 01:09:53