Does the book have info. on WATERS? I'm especially interested in Mathew WATERS, Collison (Collinson/Callison) WATERS, or the English Col. Thomas WATERS of the Am. Revolutionary period. Thanks, Barb JWaters539@aol.com

Agnes.....no "family history article" per se and only one mention listed in index. Its in Family # 218 (Solomon Kemp family). Only mention: "the remaining children [after Solomon Kemp, Jr.] of Solomon and Margaret Kemp are as follow: (2) Daniel Kemp m. Rachel Freeman, (3) Samuel Kemp m. Sarah ?, (4) John Kemp (5) Mary Kemp m. 1st Malach Mercer, 2nd Issac Rooks and (8) Rachael Kemp m. John Sanders". I would'nt necessarily let that put me off on buying the book though....just depends on your level of interest in Screven County. The first 90 page are an excellent general history of the county by Dixon Hollingsworth. Maynard

In a message dated 3/27/00 5:50:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, wreeves@sparkhost.com writes: << -----Original Message----- From: Shiela Jarrells +ADw-wjarrells+AEA-farmerstel.com+AD4- To: William C. Reeves +ADw-wreeves+AEA-sparkhost.com+AD4- Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:22 AM Subject: Re: Mrs Maxine Jarrells Dear Mr.Reeves, I am Shiela, Maxine,s Oldest daughter. Thank you for your concern about my mother. She has been in the hospital very sick. We brought her home today but she is not well. She had 2 liters of fluild taken off her lung this week. The cancer has spread to other organs and to lipnotes around her heart. The doctors want her to come back and take some more chemo theropybut they are not giving her any hope ever at that.This has been very hard for us all even though we know the Lord is in control and never makes a mistake.He has been good to us to have given us such a wonderful mother for all these years.Even though we fill she is still so young.Pray that she wont suffer anymore than she has already, Right now she is not thinking clearly, her thoughts are confused.She has lost around 75 lb,s please have everyone you know who knows the Lord to please pray for us all. If you need some of the enformation that Mother has and she cant get it to you, I will try to find it and! get it to you. I know she wants you to have it. She has mintioned it to me several times that she wanted to fill like sitting down and getting that to you all.It will have to be later when thing get settled down before I can do this, I hope you understand.Thanks again to you all for careing. Love Shiela >> I hope that Shiela will get this, as I could not make out her email address. I will pray for your mother and you, Sheila. Please whisper to her that her friends on line are praying for her and appreciate all that she has done. Judy Canant

Bill, THANK YOU FOR the POST, GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN THE PRAYERS OFFER FOR MY HUSBAND LAST October. I will certainly be praying for Mrs. Jarrells and her family, Please, let her know she will be in our prayers and thought. Dot Smith

John Poythress, Can you tell me if Isaac ROOKS is mentioned in the subject book? Agnes Donnelly

Just a couple of adders to the correct info passed out so far: 1) Mrs. Averett (nee Hollingsworth) is still the sweetheart she always was but she is a bear to run down as she has gone back to work (someplace other than the Telephone). I finally got her over the week-end. 2) all the caveats about HofSCGa are correct. The quality of the individual family histories can charitably be described as "uneven"; some family authors did a good job, some did a really poor job, although I'm sure all did the best they could. While I'd be reluctant to cite the volume as a "source" unless some "pro" like Scottie or Bob Peavy wrote the article, the book is still a gem in terms of suggesting tracks and trails. Its a steal at 60 bucks, shaky though it may be in places. 3) I talked recently with Linda Averett when I heard that she had copies left of "The Barefoot Confederate".....written by her first husband in part as a history of the Ga. 47th Inf. of Screven County in the War of Southern Independence. Not so. Linda has the "master" (not copies) and says she'll get around to making some more copies in a month or two. I suspect the more people who ask for that one as they place orders for the HofSCGa the more likely she'll get "motivated". :) Best, John M. Poythress

My name is Barbara Muscutt and my husband died last Nov. from lung cancer and other organs became involved. He also lost about 70 lbs. My heart and my prayers are with you and your family during this painful time. -----Original Message----- From: AjusBjus@aol.com <AjusBjus@aol.com> To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Fw: Mrs Maxine Jarrells >Hi my name is Barbara Justice. I know how you feel. My father died year >before last with this disease. My heart goes out to you. God bless and keep >you all. > >

Hi my name is Barbara Justice. I know how you feel. My father died year before last with this disease. My heart goes out to you. God bless and keep you all.

The msg is for all of Mrs Maxine Jarrells friends out there in genealogy land. Let us all take a few moments and pray for her and that the good lord will look over make her well in her hour of need. May God bless all of your and your families. Bill Reeves -----Original Message----- From: Shiela Jarrells <wjarrells@farmerstel.com> To: William C. Reeves <wreeves@sparkhost.com> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:22 AM Subject: Re: Mrs Maxine Jarrells Dear Mr.Reeves, I am Shiela, Maxine,s Oldest daughter. Thank you for your concern about my mother. She has been in the hospital very sick. We brought her home today but she is not well. She had 2 liters of fluild taken off her lung this week. The cancer has spread to other organs and to lipnotes around her heart. The doctors want her to come back and take some more chemo theropybut they are not giving her any hope ever at that.This has been very hard for us all even though we know the Lord is in control and never makes a mistake.He has been good to us to have given us such a wonderful mother for all these years.Even though we fill she is still so young.Pray that she wont suffer anymore than she has already, Right now she is not thinking clearly, her thoughts are confused.She has lost around 75 lb,s please have everyone you know who knows the Lord to please pray for us all. If you need some of the enformation that Mother has and she cant get it to you, I will try to find it and! get it to you. I know she wants you to have it. She has mintioned it to me several times that she wanted to fill like sitting down and getting that to you all.It will have to be later when thing get settled down before I can do this, I hope you understand.Thanks again to you all for careing. Love Shiela ----- Original Message ----- From: William C. Reeves To: Shiela Jarrells Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:03 AM Subject: Mrs Maxine Jarrells Dear Mrs. Shield Jarrells It has been several weeks since I last sent a msg trying to find out how Mrs. Maxine Jarrrells is doing. As I stated before she was under the weather and did not feel too well. Again, I am pleading with you to let me know how she is doing. She has been a long time friend in our research together. When I do not hear from her then become concern as I have had my share of medical problems over the last ten years. Not only do I become concern, there are others out here are very concern about her also. She is a well like person in the genealogy world around us. So would you please let me know then I can let others know how she is doing. We all appreciate your kindness for doing this. Respectfully. Bill Reeves

Hi All, I trying to gather info on the Cuthbert Family. Any info at all on this family would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Happy hunting! Scottie Scott

Searching for information on Thomas WATERS, the Col. (Tory- English), who reportedly left America following the American Revolution. OR, did he return to Union Co., SC? He ? m. a part Cherokee Indian, Sarah "Sallie." Did he have two families? He was an Indian Trader and owned land in SC and GA. If anyone has a Collison/Callison WATERS, I would appreciate any info about when he m. (1) Elizabeth Newland CASTLEBERRY (2) Stacy BENTON. I was told that Collison WATERS was b. 1789, but a Collison WATERS owned land in 1803 on the Savannah River, so I believe he was born earlier - or he may have been a Jr.? I believe the WATERS came to GA from Union Co., SC, and lived on the Savannah River, Wilkes or Richmond County, in the late 1700's. Matthew WATERS served on the first jury in 1797, Jackson Co. A George WATERS signed a petition to the governor in 1789 about the line dispute in the so-called "Wofford Settlement." Did he/they perhaps live in the Screven Co. or Bulloch Co. area? Some of the WATERS’ were in Warren Co. in late 1700s. Was there a marriage for Collison WATERS in Warren County - or what county did he marry in - perhaps one of the surrounding counties - or, Screven or Bulloch Co./? Would appreciate any information. Thanks, Barb JWaters539@aol.com URL: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/a/t/Barbara-B-Waters/index.html

<<<<<Sandy, Your new e-mail address didn't work! I revised the note at the end.>>>>> 23 Mar 2000 Dear Sandy HODGES, I had understood for a while now that there was controversy about the origin of our Effingham & Screven Cos GA HODGES, and, being unprepared, I had refrained from entering the fray (that debate has evidently simmered off-line for quite a while -- before there was a "line"). Now, as I am acquiring primary sources within Screven and Effingham Cos GA, and as I (and other colleagues) ask for the additional sources which would support the genealogies that we have "inherited," the current proponents of those genealogies haven't been able to provide answers. Perhaps this data can help; it appears that perhaps as many as four HODGES clans are represented in the early records of those two GA counties and of adjacent Bulloch Co GA: Family ONE -- my ancestors (predominantly in Bulloch Co GA -- which was part of Effingham Co GA from 1777 until 1793 and then Screven Co GA until 1796): the family of Joshua HODGES Sr RS (son of Francis HODGES of NC -- now there seems to be some controversy about which RAIFORD connection, but I am out of that discussion because I have few resources available for NC and plenty to do here -- so I don't know if I am a MATTHEWS descendant or not). Family TWO -- my wife's ancestors (predominantly in Effingham Co GA, then Screven, Tattnall & Lowndes Cos GA): the family of the siblings of the 'famous' Screven Co GA 1802 deed (I posted it at the Screven Co GA genweb site): John HODGES [b 1760-1770, referred to as Sr in several deeds, wife Sarah "Sally," the Bible record of his son Isaac lists Sr's children], William HODGES [b 1770, moved on to Tattnall Co GA -- a middle name of Henry was evidently added by some descendants, if not by his parents], Nathan HODGES [b 1772, moved through Tattnall Co GA to Lowndes Co GA -- family of Joyce HODGES FEAZELL], Samuel HODGES [b 1780-1782, in Screven Co GA with his first family, then, after an evident divorce, to Effingham Co GA until d 1861 with a second family, his will of 1850 lists his children up to that time -- a middle name and an initial (!) was added by descendants, no primary records show any additional names], Mary HODGES [may or may not have been the one who m Jesse HURST on 20 Sep 1802 in Effingham Co GA], and Esenure HODGES DAMPIER [she and her husband John (Warren?) DAMPIER moved to Lowndes Co GA]. Family THREE -- Elias HODGES (of Granville Co SC), his widow Mary, brother Robert, minor Cousin Drury (Effingham Co GA grants 1793 & 1798, will of 19 Aug 1799 probated 25 Oct 1800) -- this bunch may be related to yours and to SC/NC/VA antecedents. Group FOUR -- well, these folks are all the others who passed through, so they are not necessarily a single family, and some of them may be part of Family Three: Benjamin (who appears to be in addition to the Benjamins of Family ONE), William of Beaufort District SC (deeds 1809), at least one other John (& Tabby, from a 1790 deed, NOT a m license -- I have found no primary evidence to tie this pair to Family TWO), James C. (deeds 1830-1837, perhaps James Carr of Family ONE), etc. Additionally, a Roger HODGE was a tax defaulter in Little Ogeechee District of Chatham Co GA in 1787. No one may want to claim the John HODGES age 22 who was sentenced to five years for horse stealing in Chatham Co GA in 1819 (he appears to be too young for our Sr and too old for our Jr). Family FIVE -- I had said four, but here's a fifth (not truly one of the four, because I do not know that this family has a connection to Effingham Co GA): The Liberty Co GA HODGES, which may include folks from Family THREE and Group FOUR: David HODGES was a tax defaulter in Sapelo Island/5th District of Liberty Co GA in 1793; a John HODGES Jr, Robert HODGES and Willoughby HODGES were tax defaulters in the Canouchie District of Liberty Co GA in 1796, and perhaps in 1789. Then there is the Rebecca HODGE who m 2 Jan 1804 m Samuel HARVILLE in Liberty Co GA which is of interest to Russ HENDERSON of FL. I have not even seen a family outline for the Liberty Co GA HODGES, and I can answer no queries about this bunch. After trying to make those "inherited" genealogies fit, I found that they were variations on Family TWO, and that the SC/NC/VA connections lacked substantiation, at least by primary evidence. There were occasional errors confusing folks of Families ONE and TWO, including: ONE has an early Hardy RS d in NC (the piper) and a Hardy Bell in Bulloch Co GA, the latter of whom was inconveniently b 28 May 1808 near the time as Family TWO's Hardy was b 25 Jun 1806 in Effingham or Screven Co GA (each b date from a family Bible), and their records can be confused, ONE's Catherine HODGES JACKSON m 14 Mar 1792 Effingham Co GA, so she has been incorrectly counted as part of Family TWO, TWO's Esenure HODGES DAMPIER m 5 Oct 1801 Effingham Co GA, but has been mistakenly counted as a child of ONE's Joshua (she has a daughter Ailcy/Alsey who m MONK but I do not know how she has been assigned her daughter's name as well), THREE's widowed Mrs. Mary _____ HODGES had records in Effingham Co GA which can be taken as those of the Miss Mary HODGES of TWO's 1802 deed siblings, or as a Mrs. Mary _____ HODGES, a proposed (but not by me) mother for the 1802 deed siblings, ONE's Nathaniel b 17 Jun 1777 (my ggggfather) has been confused with his nephew Nathaniel William McLain, but mostly he has been confused with TWO's contemporary Nathan b 16 Oct 1772, ONE's Asenith T. HODGES BOYKIN (my gggmother) b 1814 m 1828 across the Ogeechee River in Screven Co GA (where she lived until d 1863) and was thought to be part of Family TWO, ONE's Nathan had a son Samuel b 1815 GA, who was confused with his uncle Samuel b 1780-1782 East FL (Samuel's position in the "inherited" genealogies varies, but there is a deed record which clarifies that he is the uncle of the siblings listed in the Isaac HODGES Bible record), and many folks from Families ONE and TWO had connections to, and transactions with, folks across the Ogeechee which make separating their records difficult, &c. The further complication is that tieing a John of Family TWO back to Richard HODGES of NC makes for a bigamous fellow with two contemporary sets of children: thus his "wives" could be your Rebecca CHERRY and our Sarah "Sally" (or maybe Tabby/Tabitha LITTLE by the "inherited" genealogies). This point is taken from your post to HODGES-L. I, of course, have not completed building up from zero what I can substantiate from primary evidence, but I've gotten far enough along to learn to beware of sourceless lists of descendants of Family Two, particularly if the distributors of such lists reply with little interest in sources (primary or otherwise). I very much hope that eventually we will find connections for our Family Two to the SC/NC/VA antecedents, as I said, our folks have to have come from somewhere, but learning of it will require "careful, methodical, grass-roots research" (a term I had quoted in my WHITTINGTON post of 29 Sep 1999). Perhaps, in the long run, we will find our ties for Family TWO to the antecedent HODGES in SC/NC/VA, perhaps I can even bring Tabby (Tabitha LITTLE?) back into the fold (but surely not the one who divorced a John in Putnam Co GA in 1818-1821). But, in the meantime, we need evidence for our constructions, and it is clear that what was done before cannot be taken as fact when unsupported, even if written in stone (or on a metal plaque on stone)*. May God Bless You and Your Family, Bob (John Robert) PEAVY Post Office Box 1519 Rincon GA 31326-1519 Please respond to new e-mail address: jrpv@netzero.com Note*: The William HODGES of the 1802 deed siblings has two tombstones on his plot in Tattnall Co GA -- the old headstone one is for: "Wm. HODGES Born June 19, 1770 Died Aug. 24, 1849 Who was in the constitution of Anderson Church was the first one buried at this place;" the new metal plaque on a footstone is for: "WILLIAM HENRY HODGES (1770-1849) SON OF JOHN ROBERT AND ____? LITTLE HODGES, NATIVE OF NORTH CAROLINA, PIONEER SETTLER OF TATTNALL COUNTY, GEORGIA, (1790) FARMER, CIVIC LEADER AND COUNTY SHERIFF. CHILDREN BY FIRST WIFE ANN BLITCH: CYNTHIA 1803 JAMES M. WILLIS A. 8-1-1812 SAMUEL WILLIAM RILEY CHILDREN BY SECOND WIFE HANNAH COLSON: SEABORN R. 4-26-1816 10-11-1899 SAMANTHA 5-8-1824 11-10-1891 PHILLIP POWELL 3-24-1830 8-30-1861;" the first might be taken as a primary source -- perhaps those that knew him were responsible for its being there, the later stone is due to genealogical research -- and should be considered a secondary source. I know of stones in two plots in Bonaventure Cemetery in Savannah GA that have one year errors on them for a b date and a d date respectively (a church record and an obituary clarify the dates), and those stones were ordered by those who knew the deceased! I hope that the genealogists for William HODGES of Tattnall Co GA have substantiation for the middle name of Henry; I know that such a name seems necessary for him to also be the Henry (no William) of a Robert (no John?) HODGES will in NC. ________________________________ From: Sandy Hodges@hodges on 03/22/2000 Subject: Re: HODGES Effingham & Screven Cos GA Thank's for this. My email address has changed - it is now sandyhodges@iname.com I don't know for how much longer this old address will work. Thanks, Sandy Hodges "Peavy, John Robert" wrote: > > Dear Carole FARR DREXEL, > > My wife's ancestor, > > Samuel HODGES b 1780-1782 East FL ... __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

I don't know how my folks tie into yours, but I am also researching Joyner/Joiner and Roberts in Screven County. My earliest Roberts was Merincy "Rintha" Roberts, born about 1809. Married Archibald Smith (ca. 1802-1860) in Screven Co. on 15 Mar 1827, died in Dec. 1879 in the 35 GMD of Screven County. I have no idea who her parents were or how she ties into any of the other Roberts in Screven County. I had thought at one time that she might be the daughter of Martha "Patsy" Rhodes, who had been a Roberts before she married David Rhodes, I think in 1823. This Patsy Rhodes had a son named Bryant Roberts who moved to Lowndes County before the 1850 census. Joyner - I descend from James Joyner, born 1806 - died 1892. He married Elizabeth Jenkins. They had a large family to include: John, Joshua, Dilly, Owen, Jimpsey, Miles (my ancestor), Johnson and some others. A few of the boys are buried at Hurst Baptist Church around Hilltonia. My Miles married Jane Delina Hendrix in about 1873, and wound up in Bulloch County. Regards, Tom -----Original Message----- From: Leslie & Cathy Pierce [mailto:pierce@cftnet.com] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:50 PM To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] LIST Dear Paula, I do not think I have written to you before. I also am reserching the Roberts family in GA from late 1700's to the present. My oldest Roberts that I am aware of is Eli Roberts (1798-about 1870's) married Delania Kent (1810-about 1850). Their son was Daniel W. (Webster) Roberts (1846-1909) married Cassanne Hall (1851-1925). I am trying to find out who Eli's parents were and where they came from. CAthy Roberts Pierce pierce@cftnet.com PFran38984@aol.com wrote: > Researching the following families (1700s forward) > > CUBBAGE, JOYNER/JOINER, KEMP, ROBERTS > > Paula Franklin

Does anyone have any info on an Alfred Herrington that married a woman by the name of Lucy? Vrtreena R. Jenkins

Please put me on list: Barbara Zeagler==jczeagler@planters.net Boyd-Jenkins-Waters-Freeman-Tuttles-Bazemores-Mocks-----Screven,Effingham,Je nkins,Bulloch,Tattnell ----- Original Message ----- From: <PASSDATIME@aol.com> To: <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] Question for the list > sounds great to me!!!! > Brenda >

Thought this was interesting enought to get Mr. Sherman's permission to pass it on. Deborah Byrd > Talking about the value of $$$$. My ggrandfather, Captain J. Owens Berry, > CSA, was in Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg. He led Company G of the Eighth > Virginia Volunteer Infantry and survived the battle. I have a copy of his > pay voucher (from LDS) showing his salary throughout the war while he was a > Captain. For the month 30JUN1863 until 31JUL1863 (Gettysburg), his pay was > the same as usual--$130 per month. According to the value factor posted: > (An equivalent amount of $85000 in 1860 dollars would be $1530987.29 in 1999 > dollars.) > He would have been making the equivalent of 18 X $130 = $2340 per month. Or > $28,080 per year. This means his pay for the day he charged with Pickett was > $75 by today's standards. He was paid $75 to walk across THAT field and face > those Yankees. It wasn't for the money. He later said they had a "Cause" > which was larger than life, and it had nothing to do with slavery or money. > Respectfully posted, > Edgar Sherman > Governor, Society of Mayflower Descendants in the State of South Carolina >

Dear Paula, I do not think I have written to you before. I also am reserching the Roberts family in GA from late 1700's to the present. My oldest Roberts that I am aware of is Eli Roberts (1798-about 1870's) married Delania Kent (1810-about 1850). Their son was Daniel W. (Webster) Roberts (1846-1909) married Cassanne Hall (1851-1925). I am trying to find out who Eli's parents were and where they came from. CAthy Roberts Pierce pierce@cftnet.com PFran38984@aol.com wrote: > Researching the following families (1700s forward) > > CUBBAGE, JOYNER/JOINER, KEMP, ROBERTS > > Paula Franklin

Hi John. You do such nice work. Thank you for this post. I will figure this JANE HODGES out yet. Her name is listed in Cynthia Ann Brown Henderson's family Bible of 1865, and there is no other name in that Bible, down to my brother Franklin Farr's name, that is not a family member. My Father and Grandfather were very close to old Mr. Hodges who lived across the River and Union Methodist Church...many a time we went to dinner on the ground there when I was little, as well as Oak Grove United Methodist Church in Dover. You don't have any of the Hodges marring into the Screven County Jarrell family do you? I am one of your wife's distant cousins, being a descendant of Thomas/Susannah Harris Greene/McKeen Greene and Elinor 'Nelly McCall Greene/Michael Henderson and Jane Harris Greene Henderson/William Young and Mary Henderson Young/Mary Ann Young Henderson Cameron and William Michael Henderson/Captain William Michael Henderson, 5th GA Calvary, CSA and Cynthia Ann Brown, sister or Dr. James Franklin Brown who married Capt. Wm. M. Henderson's sister, ANNE ELIZABETH HENDERSON (but not Cameron...she was not adopted by John Cameron after Wm. M. Henderson, Sr. died in 1845 and he married his widow, Mary Ann Young Henderson in 1849), and John M. Farr and Annie Laurie Henderson Farr, and Carroll Franklin Farr, Sr. and Mary Leona Clark Farr of Liberty County, GA. Whew, what a mouthful. This is fascinating stuff. I have a great deal on the Green(e) family. I had read one of your posts about the Green family and how one day you would actually finish a post on them. Boy, isn't that the truth! Sorta like the McCalls and the Youngs! I appreciate all your research. I, too, am trying to preserve this history for my children and their children. I grew up in Screven and Bulloch Counties. I now live in Texas, and I really miss the gracious Georgia people. I only need one more document to cement the line for my DAR papers. I am going to go in on McKeen Greene. Do you know anyone who would research a deed of gift of 1835 date, Screven County, GA, from Michael Henderson to William Michael Henderson, his son for me? I have tried to write for the info, but have had no success. Since the Henderson/Young/Cameron graveyard was destroyed (it was off the old Cameron Road, off HWY 17, I have no proof of the relationship of Michael Henderson and William Michael Henderson, except a copy of a card from the Henderson folder at the Bulloch County, Ga Library that says ....Essie Hollingsworth (a great aunt of mine, yet!) deed of gift dated 1835 from Michael Henderson to William Michael Henderson, his son...I know about the Hollingsworth files at the Screven County Library, but when I paid a visit to the library last summer, the new librarian would not let me in to see any of the files nor would she look for me, and Linda was out of town, so she could not call to see if I was ok. Oh the travails of trying to finish this from Fort Worth, Texas. If you know of anyone reliable in Screven County, would you mind sending me their name? When I get this all together, I will send you a post on all the Greene info that I have that is DOCUMENTED, and then I will start on the McCall info. God Bless You and Yours, too. Carole Farr Drexel gdrexel1@airmail.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peavy, John R SAS <John.R.Peavy@sas02.usace.army.mil> To: <GDREXEL1@airmail.net> Cc: <michie@flinthills.com>; <hodges@hypersurf.com>; <JBHAR78216@aol.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 4:43 PM Subject: HODGES Effingham & Screven Cos GA > Dear Carole FARR DREXEL, > > My wife's ancestor, > > Samuel HODGES b 1780-1782 East FL (m1 c 1805 Screven Co GA m1 Jane BLACK and > they evidently divorced c 1826-1829, he then m2 6 Aug 1840 Effingham Co GA > m2 Maragaret Ann GRAHAM) d 17 May 1861 Effingham Co GA (he could have been > buried at the Little Ogeechee Baptist Church Cemetery {LOBCC} with a wooden > marker, but the Yankees throroughly ruined the graveyard in Dec 1864), > > had a nephew, > > John HODGES Jr b 4 Jan 1804 d > 1870 > > The b date of John HODGES Jr is from the bible of his younger brother's > Bible record, that brother was > > Isaac HODGES b 15 Sep 1813 Effingham Co GA m 11 Dec 1840 > Effingham Co GA d 23 Feb 1875 m Flora GRAHAM b 19 Dec 1813 d 2 Jun 1899 > (younger sister {and niece by marriage for four months at that time} of > Margaret Ann GRAHAM -- the three of them are buried at LOBCC). > > It appears that the parents of John HODGES Jr and Isaac HODGES (and of a > total of at least eleven children b 1791-1820) were John HODGES Sr b > 1760-1770 d 1836-1840? (the older brother of Samuel HODGES) and Sarah _____ > "Sally" b 1770-1775 (known by name, only from Screven Co GA deeds in 1804 > {Book A p 435} and 1836 {Book M p 359}). Please refer to the 1802 deed > which I posted to the Screven Co GA genweb site for a fuller list of the > five siblings of John HODGES Sr. > > Now, the only early reference I have for a wife for John HODGES Jr > is a deed in Screven Co GA from 1829 (I include other pertinent data here): > > Screven Co GA Deed Book L p 289: 7 Mar 1829 John HODGES Jr (Martha HODGES > also signed) to James GRIFFIN and John GRIFFIN for $85, 200 acres originally > granted to William HODGES on 3 Feb 1794 and surveyed 22 Oct 1794, bounded by > James LOWDERS, witnesses William MCCARRDEL and Lewis LANIER J.P., recorded 8 > Apr 1830. > > Screven Co GA Deed Book L p 341: 15 Mar 1830 John HODGES Jr to my well > beloved Ambrose HODGES [age c 10 at that time], the son of my uncle Samuel > HODGES, for the good will and love and affection I bear and for $5, 281 and > 1/2 acres (for the benefit of Samuel HODGES in educating and maintaining > Ambrose HODGES), witnesses [Jr's younger brother b 1806] Hardy HODGES and > Lewis LANIER, recorded 5 Jan 1831 [Ann FARMER sold, for $48, this land to > John HODGES Sr on 23 Sep 1828; Samuel HODGES was a witness to that > transaction]. > > Screven Co GA Census of 1840 (259th District, p 103): John HODGES Sr one M > 40-50, one F 30-40, one M 20-30, one F 15-20, one M & one F 5-10, one M < 5 > [by age, this must be our John HODGES Jr -- in 1830s, John HODGES Sr was > reported as 60-70] > > Effingham Co GA Census of 1850 (hh 345): John HODGE 43 M, Jane HODGE 36 F, > Julia HODGE 16 F, Amelia HODGE 14 F, James HODGE 12, Hannah HODGE 9, > Ambrose [II] HODGE 7, William HODGES 5 > > [Screven Co GA Census of 1850 (hh 1 -- the hh of the census taker): John > CAMERON 45 b NC [35th District in 1852], Mary A[nn YOUNG HENDERSON] CAMERON > 36 [m2 16 Jan 1846/27 Jun 1849 Chatham Co GA], Ann E. CAMERON 12, William > M[ichael HENDERSON b 28 Feb 1843] CAMERON 7, Jane HODGE 27, J/I NEWSOM 22 M > b NC Overseer][Willis YOUNG and his family are at hh 4, the HODGES are at > hh's 18-22] > > [Screven Co GA Census of 1860 (224 224): John CAMERON 48 M b NC {1870s 65 > Retired}, Mary A. CAMERON 45 F b GA {d by 1870?}, Wm. M. HENDERSON 17 M b GA > Student {1870s head of hh 27 Farmer}, Jane HODGES 35 F b GA Domestic {1870e > 45}, Jeremiah USHER 24 M b GA Overseer] > > Effingham Co GA Census of 1860: J. HODGES 56 M, M. HODGES 53 F, W. H. > HODGES 15 M, L. J. HODGES 11 F > > Effingham Co GA Census of 1870 (462 468): J. HODGES 60 M Farmer, M. HODGES > 60 F > [W. H. HODGES age 23 M Teamster is with the family J. BIRD age 37 M at 1870e > hh 760 767] > [William H. HODGES m 10 Jul 1871 Effingham Co GA m Sarah HELMLY] > > So the John HODGES Jr who m Mrs. Martha HENDERSON on 14 Aug 1827 > in Bulloch Co GA may very well be "our" John HODGES Jr, but by 1840 his > unnamed wife appears to be b 1800-1810, by 1850 his wife appears to be Jane > b c 1814, by 1860 she seems to be M. b c 1807, and by 1870 she seems to be > M. b c 1810. The temptation is, of course, to make her into "Martha Jane," > but we lack far too much data to go that far (see caution paragraph below). > Have you any data as to the b date of Martha YOUNG HENDERSON HODGES? > > I do not know the identity of the Jane HODGES b 1823-1825 d > 1870 > unm? who is evidently a servant in the CAMERON/HENDERSON hh. Samuel HODGES' > children are accounted for in his will. John HODGES Sr's children are > listed in that Bible record. Their brothers William (Jr?) and Nathan had > moved away from the Effingham-Screven area (to Tattnall and Lowndes Cos GA). > This Jane HODGES would be a little old to be the daughter of John HODGES Jr > (at least by Martha). I will continue to look for a tie-in. > > I must caution you that you will find many genealogies that relate > the siblings of that 1802 deed (or at least some of those siblings) to > earlier HODGES from SC/NC/VA. As I uncover "local" data for these folks, I > have found so far that those connections lack any primary evidence to > support them. Whenever the proponents of this approach (or, as in most > instances, those who "inherited" such data and unquestioningly include the > material in their own genealogies as if it were supported), are asked for > substantiation, we very consistently receive no references to primary > evidence. The only possible exception to this pattern is use of the 1747 > will of Richard HODGES of Beaufort Co NC (probated 1752); but even use of > this will requires the grafting of a middle name to make it fit with our > HODGES (the Henry of the will becomes William Henry, but is only referred to > here in GA as William!), and the unfortunate result is that a John HODGES is > thereby made bigamous and is given a second set of children (it appears that > the John HODGES of that NC will m Rebecca CHERRY and lived his life > elsewhere -- NC/SC, not in Bulloch, Effingham or Screven Cos GA). William > "Henry" has two tombstones at his plot in Tattnall Co GA -- an old one for > William and a new one for William Henry -- it certainly adds force if you > write it in stone*. Incidentally, extra middle names seems to be a hallmark > of these genealogies. For example, the Samuel HODGES above is given another > middle name AND an initial ("James R.") when I have yet to see any census, > courthouse minutes, deed, land lottery, marriage or probate records that > indicate other than Samuel HODGES! In these genealogies, the position of > Samuel varies between generations, but the 1830 deed should clarify that > issue, showing Samuel to be the uncle of the siblings listed in the Isaac > HODGES Bible record. I will further caution you about my own findings: I > have exhausted neither data sources nor analyses to eliminate the SC/NC/VA > connections (our HODGES, after all, had to have come from somewhere) or, for > that mater, all the multiple middle names, but I would very much like to > have the primary evidence on which those genealogies are based in coming to > my own conclusions. > > May God Bless You and Your Family, > > Bob (John Robert) PEAVY > Post Office Box 1519 > Rincon GA 31326-1519 > jrpv@netzero.net > > *Note about the middle names: William may be William Henry, another William > may be William James, Samuel may be Samuel James R., Martha W? may be Martha > Margaret, John may be John Robert Sr or Jr, etc. -- I am just puzzled that > the collectors of these names do not produce primary evidence for > substantiation of them. On the other hand, Samuel HODGES' will of 1850 does > indicate the middle names of his later children -- but, oddly enough, the > genealogies to which I referred generally have his son James K. Polk HODGES > as only "James R." -- most likely produced from a typographical error in the > LOBCC inscription which was included in one of the DAR volumes for Screven > Co GA cemeteries -- a visit to the cemetery confirms that the stone has > "James P." -- James K. Polk HODGES and his wife are buried near his mother > at LOBCC. > > Note to Sandie HODGES (via Judy CANANT) and to Barry MICHIE: Yes, I know > that I am beyond exteremely slow about replying. Your inquiries (which you > have probably forgotten) may have since become moot points for you in the > time that it has taken me to get to this matter. In this instance, it > wasn't just the backlog -- I've been actively avoiding the issue, because I > have been (and to some extent still am) ill-equipped to address it. I am > presently gathering data (almost exclusively from my Bulloch, Effingham & > Screven Cos GA "BES" research area -- that's where I have or can get to some > resources -- perhaps not a complete picture, but I hope a fairly thorough > one using the available evidence) to produce, for me, a "new" position, and > so far it's looking somewhat like my old one (I've so far dropped > Tabby/Tabitha LITTLE as obvious part{s} of our family). As much as I > understand the "yearn to connect" (and that may yet be done), I have never > seen any primary evidence to support connecting our HODGES to those earlier > SC/NC/VA HODGES. As I, working with Bill REEVES, am able to pull together > the available data, I will be back in touch, eventually. As I understand > it, your interest is from the SC/NC/VA end, so I would appreciate your > letting me know if you uncover any links to our HODGES. I am begining to > run across very early (up to 1819) Savannah newspaper index listings for > Benjamin/Elias(wife Mary, brother Robert, cousin Drury), and Robert/John > Jr./Willougby (these ?unrelated and other HODGES also passed through our > area -- not to mention William HODGES of Beaufort District SC, and the > nearby NC/Bulloch Co GA HODGES from which I am descended). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gregory Drexel <gdrexel1@airmail.net> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 > Subject: [GASCREVE] MRS. MARTHA HENDERSON/JOHN HODGES, JR/WILLIAM MICHAEL > HENDERSON/JAMES YOUNG > | I found this entry in Mrs. Alvaretta Kenan Register's book, Bulloch > County, Ga Genealogical Resource Material. > | > | Groom: Bride > | HODGES, JOHN JR. MRS. MARTHA HENDERSON > | Date: 14 August, 1827 > | > | Does anyone have any other information about these people? I am searching > for the parents of Mr. MICHAEL HENDERSON who married JANE HARRIS GREENE i > Bulloch County, GA in 1809, later moved to Screven County. His son, William > Michael Henderson, (Sr.) married the daughter of JAMES YOUNG and LAVINIA > JONES Young, daughter of James Jones, RS. > | > | On the 1860 Census of Screven County, GA, there is a JANE HODGES who > appears in the household of WILLIAM MICHAEL HENDERSON. And seeing as how > their farm was right across the Ogeechee River from the HODGES lands and > William Michael Henderson, in his youth, was the overseer for his > grandfather JAMES YOUNG's plantation, I wondered if there was any marriage, > maybe second marriage, that would have a Mrs. Martha Henderson marrying John > Hodges. > | > | Any ideas? Carole Drexel gdrexel1@airmail.net >

Hi list. I was reviewing some Jarrell list postings. I came across one dated 15 August 1999 from JanetW111@aon.com. I wondered if she had more info or anyone else on the list had any info...on the following: WILEY P. JARRELL-first wife Martha Miller WILEY P. JARRELL-second wife MARTHA E. MOORE, b. 30 April 1839 md. 9 March 1880 d. 9 June 1909, buried Oak Grove United Methodist Church Cemetary, Sylvania. MARTHA E. MOORE JARRELL was aunt to JOHN M. FARR, who erected a monument to his Aunt Martha that marks her grave at Oak Grove. JOHN M. FARR was father to Harry Leon Farr, Earl Farr and Carroll Franklin Farr, Sr. There was an administrator's bond in 19/52, Screven County, GA, dated 21 Feb 1891, which names R.H.FARR as administrator of the estate of LEVENIA E. FARR, and signed by R. H. Farr, Charles H. Moore, and W. J. Moore. Wiley P. Jarrell's farm adjoined the farm of William Michael Henderson in the (then) 35th G. M. District of Screven County, GA, and William Michael Henderson, Captain, 5th GA Calvary, CSA, was the father of ANNIE LAURIE HENDERSON who married JOHN M. FARR. There was, and still is, a really big pond by the name of JARRELL POND that belonged to Wiley P. Jarrell's family. Sherman camped about 1 mile from there during the march to the sea. Wiley's sons, I feel sure, died in the War of Northern Agression. There are many Jarrell family members buried at the Middleground Methodist Church Cemetary not too far from there. All this area is located on/very near the Ogeechee River which is the border for Screven County, GA (on the far southwest side) and Bulloch County, GA (Statesboro, GA). Does anyone have any information about any of this? I would really appreciate any help. Carole Farr Drexel in Ft. Worth PS...John M. Farr, nephew to Martha E. Moore Jarrell, was supposed to have gone to Texas and we wondered if he went with some of his Jarrell relatives. Just a hunch.

Hi Judy. The name Grovenstein caught my eye. I have distant cousins named Grovenstein near Springfield, GA. They married into the Clark family of Fleming, GA. Do you need any of that? They live all together over there. Carole gdrexel1@airmail.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy V. Mason <2jv@bellsouth.net> To: <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 6:34 AM Subject: [GASCREVE] Name Place Idenification > Recently I came across an article in the old Springfield Herald, of Effingham County, Ga. The article was published on April 16, 1990. Copies also submitted to Effingham County News and ENTERPRIZE-GAZETTE. The submitter was called the "MT. PILGRIM MISSIONARY SOCIETY." Can anyone idenify this society, or the name Mt. Pilgrim? It is obvious from the text that it may well have been from a close area near Effingham Co. The article is in reference to the death of a young "Christian worker" who had recently deceased. His name was GEORGE GROVENSTEIN. A series of resolutions had been set forth and signed by three committee members. One of who I am very interested in, for reaearch purposes. HENRY GABLE, Lula Bishop, and Kate Grey. > Any help or suggestions appreciated, > Judy Mason > 2jv@bellsouth.net > > >