OOPS! Sorry My e-mail: wcanddot@zebra.net Effingham, Screven, are two counties I am also researching. Thanks, Dorothy Wilson Simpson -----Original Message----- From: Judy V. Mason <2jv@bellsouth.net> To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: [GASCREVE] COURSEY SURNAME >Nancy, I too am researching a Coursey line, last found in Effingham Co.Ga. >Could you contact me? >Judy Rountree Mason >Rincon, Ga. >Effingham Co. >2jv@bellsouth.net > > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

I, too am related to a coursey. My great Aunt Kate A. Dixon ( B-1885 ) married a Coursey and they lived in Savannah Ga. or Brunswich Ga. She was my Grandmothers sister Their parents were James Augustus Dixon and Mollie or Mary. Any connection? Please E-mail , thanks Dorothy Wilson simpson -----Original Message----- From: Judy V. Mason <2jv@bellsouth.net> To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: [GASCREVE] COURSEY SURNAME >Nancy, I too am researching a Coursey line, last found in Effingham Co.Ga. >Could you contact me? >Judy Rountree Mason >Rincon, Ga. >Effingham Co. >2jv@bellsouth.net > > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

U. S. Geological Survey maps serve a number of purposes. If one can spot a location on a quadrangle its not too tough to use a straight edge to get to the cordinates yourself plus/minus a few "seconds" or two, thus eliminating the need to buy a GPS for a one time use. Although these GPS things aren't cheap, they are coming down all the time. I think the last one I saw was couple hundred bucks. I plotted coordinates off of a quadrangle recently and put them on an inventory of a "thought"-lost cemetery. Doing this has a couple of advantages. First, John Doe Road and Richard Roe Street may not even be there a hundred years from now. With "conventional" directions that future seeker is out of luck. But unless somebody explodes the planet, those coordinates will always be the same and with a GPS one can walk straight to the spot a thousand years from now. Second, one can be dealing with a landowner who is slightly anxious about "publicity" and anticipates a bunch of amateur and/or destructive genealogists showing up the next day (this rarely happens but its always an apprehension for this type landowner even if you gave 'em a holy writ). The landowner doesn't want the publicity and you don't want to inventory a cemetery and not provide a location. So, just list the coordinates......99% of the "casual" genealogists around won't have the foggiest notion what that string of numbers even is. But a "pro", whom we all like to presume will treat the land and the landowner with a degree of respect, will read those numbers in a heartbeat. With quadrangle in hand he or she will be right on the money in a few minutes. My question: several of the previous posts have referred to "geodetic" maps and the implication given is that they are much more detailed than geological survey quadrangles. I have always thought the geodetics were very large scale and made only for dialing in or out the curvature of the earth. Is "geodetic" just another name some are using for the same quadrangles or is there a better source I've been missing here? Thanks, John M. Poythress

Hey Judy..........I saw your Coursey notice..........I some Coursey data from Screven County, Ga..........would like to exchange data with you Jack Tomlin................in Louisiana

I wonder if the Screven county Cemeteries are on line!!! Judy Mason -----Original Message----- From: RNSANGLIN@aol.com <RNSANGLIN@aol.com> To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 03, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] (no subject) >Hi All, > >I am new to the list but have a question about these maps and where one might >locate them. (geodetic?) I am trying to locate cemeteries where COURSEYS are >buried in Screven County and also in Tatnall County.. > >Thanks, > >Nancy > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hey Nancy! Welcome to the list. I have learned lots...bunch of great folks here! Cousin Lynne At 04:17 PM 7/3/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I am new to the list but have a question about these maps and where one might >locate them. (geodetic?) I am trying to locate cemeteries where COURSEYS are >buried in Screven County and also in Tatnall County.. > >Thanks, > >Nancy > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

Well, thank again, I just finished reading the article. You were a great help. Dot

Thank you so much for this information. I was sure someone had an answer on the SCREVEN LIST. You must be in a realitive of the lady I am helping with this her name is Gail. Thank you Dot Smith

Hello All, In reply to Nancy: The U.S. Geological Survey publishes a series of topographic maps designed for use in emergencies and military operations. These maps are detailed enough to include some logging roads and feature buildings, survey benchmarks, and cemetaries among the included features. Basically, the maps that I have acquired were available through a state office in Atlanta, GA. I believe that if you contact the state Dept. of Transportation (DOT) you can order both county road maps (which show some structures, churches, etc.) and the USGS geodetic maps. If the DOT doesn't have both types of map then the contact in the DOT Map Room should be able to direct you to the federal office that sells the USGS geodetic maps. I have a map of Georgia that breaks the state down into the component USGS geodetic QUADRANGLE maps. This map allows you to examine and decide which exact maps you need. Call the GA DOT and order several maps that you think that you need and request the map representing the index or guide to maps all across the state - if they have it (it may be the case that you have to get that map from the office selling only geodetic maps [in College Park, near Hartsfield airport {if I remember this correctly - it has been 10 years or more since I ordered GA geodetic maps}], rather than from the GA DOT Map Room). As to the particular maps relating to Screven Co., they are as follows. Each is termed by its name followed by the term 'Quadrangle': Rocky Ford Sylvania North Bay Branch Hiltonia Dover Hopeulikit (mostly, Bulloch Co.) Sylvania South Oliver Leefield (a tiny corner of Screven Co.) Kildare (one-half Screven Co., one-half Effingham Co.) Hunters Blue Springs Brier Creek Landing Jacksonboro Bridge Bull Pond (largely South Carolina) Burton's Ferry Hiltonia Sardis I believe that there are one or more Quadrangle maps that I haven't included in this list. These would be areas in the northernmost portion of Screven Co. I've always focused my interests in the central and southern portions of the county, so I am uncertain about whether it is just a single or two maps that I have failed to list. Also, Quadrangle map names can throw you off a bit - e.g.: Newington is mostly included in the Oliver Quadrangle map; the remainder of Newington and North Newington Church appears in the Kildare Quadrangle map; White Hill is included in the Hunters Quadrangle map; Bascom appears in the Sylvania North Quadrangle map; and Hiltonia is split between the Sylvania North and Hiltonia Quadrangle maps. If you are unsure about which quadrangle includes the particular feature that you are searching for - order the four names that appear to be closest to the point that you are interested in. Also of interest and of some use is the county's 1992 "Master Street Address Guide Map for Screven County Georgia." This is a modern map that features the 911 road names. Most roads in the county have those same 911 road names posted on signs that match up this map. Combine this 1992 map (created by Screven Co.) with the GA DOT 1987 "General Highway Map Screven County Georgia" and the USGS geodetic Quadrangle maps and you have some very good referents to how things stand as regards roadways, churchs, cemetaries, etc. Also useful can be the old 1911 map of Screven Co. I can actually see the location of my great-grandfather's home place at the intersection of Bovine and Williams Store Roads on this map (the names of the roads are those assigned as 911 names - I have no notion of what the roads were called in 1911). Placenames within the county have changed between 1911 and the present: KITSON has become FARMDALE; WILLIAMSONS has become WHITE HILL. Some of us will remember the standing structures of old schoolhouses in the county. I seem to recall seeing the Beulah schoolhouse that my mother attended as a child (before it disappeared sometime in the 60s). What I believe is the Friendship School is standing just off of the intersection of GA 24 and McBride Circle - across from Friendship Road. These structures were included on the old 1911 map. An original print of that map can be seen in the County Commisioners office in the courthouse. I hope that this discourse on Screven Co. maps has been useful. For other counties - acquire the GA DOT county road map and try ordering the USGS geodetic maps based upon the names of significant towns, bridges, or waterways running through the area. For a county like Tattnall - try the town and community names of Glennville, Mendes, Manassas, Collins, Cobbtown, and Reidsville. Some of the maps you want will have those names assigned to them. Dale E. Reddick ________________________________ RNSANGLIN@aol.com wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to the list but have a question about these maps and where one might > locate them. (geodetic?) I am trying to locate cemeteries where COURSEYS are > buried in Screven County and also in Tatnall County.. > > Thanks, > > Nancy > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Dale E Reddick wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > I have more of the same Dover Quadrangle map to scan, if that would be helpful. I also > have several of the adjacent geodetic maps. And, I've looked at the 1911 map of > Screven Co. Unfortunately, that map only shows Cameron. But, with a different set of > roads. Only the road running into Cameron seems to be the same, originating at the > crossroads near Jarrell Pond. > > Again, let me know if you need an adjacent area scanned. > > Dale > ________________________________ > Dear Dale, What you sent was exactly what I needed. The lady, though, may need the next section east which should show the Evans cemetery. Again, thank you for your courtesy and helpfulness. Jim -- Jim Blease mailto:leds@datasys.net Valdosta, Ga. ICQ #: 19431334

Dear Jim, I have more of the same Dover Quadrangle map to scan, if that would be helpful. I also have several of the adjacent geodetic maps. And, I've looked at the 1911 map of Screven Co. Unfortunately, that map only shows Cameron. But, with a different set of roads. Only the road running into Cameron seems to be the same, originating at the crossroads near Jarrell Pond. Again, let me know if you need an adjacent area scanned. Dale ________________________________ Jim Blease wrote: > Dale E Reddick wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Blease, > > Dear Ms. Kindel, > > > > I read your posting with a bit of interest and decided to look at my set of U.S. > > geodetic maps that I collected for Screven Co. Looking at the 1978 Dover > > Quadrangle map I believe that I can see the cemetary that you have been searching > > for. I will scan in the relevant portion of the map and send it to you as a > > > > Dear Mr. Reddick, > > Thank you!!! > > I misunderstood Shelly Young and was looking in the small patch of woods > south of the pond and northwest of Cameron road. > > It is located on good high ground and if that old trail is no longer > passable it wouldn't be a bad walk. > > I think the little cemetery across Hwy 17 from Charlestown Church is > another colored cemetery. The Evans cemetery Mrs. Kindel was seeking is > probably in the next map segment east. > > Those geodetic maps are fine ones; I have a couple of them but none for > Screven. > > Again, thank you. > > Jim > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Hi, Can anyone help with this family I need to know Helen Enecks parents, sibilings, ect did she come from SC or was she a Screven born lady? I am helping someone find her grandmother's parents Thanks Dot Smith Helen Enecks married Gordon Bowie Lafitte b4-17-1876 m on 10-8-1905 Helen Enecks b12-16-1881 children Marha, Mary, Henry, Anna. Helen died 4-27-1913. Gordon married 2nd time to Vera Ola Lester and their children were Helen Ola, Vera, Ida, Annie, Gordon.

Dale E Reddick wrote: > > Dear Mr. Blease, > Dear Ms. Kindel, > > I read your posting with a bit of interest and decided to look at my set of U.S. > geodetic maps that I collected for Screven Co. Looking at the 1978 Dover > Quadrangle map I believe that I can see the cemetary that you have been searching > for. I will scan in the relevant portion of the map and send it to you as a > Dear Mr. Reddick, Thank you!!! I misunderstood Shelly Young and was looking in the small patch of woods south of the pond and northwest of Cameron road. It is located on good high ground and if that old trail is no longer passable it wouldn't be a bad walk. I think the little cemetery across Hwy 17 from Charlestown Church is another colored cemetery. The Evans cemetery Mrs. Kindel was seeking is probably in the next map segment east. Those geodetic maps are fine ones; I have a couple of them but none for Screven. Again, thank you. Jim

Dear Mr. Blease, Dear Ms. Kindel, I read your posting with a bit of interest and decided to look at my set of U.S. geodetic maps that I collected for Screven Co. Looking at the 1978 Dover Quadrangle map I believe that I can see the cemetary that you have been searching for. I will scan in the relevant portion of the map and send it to you as a attachment to an e-mail message. Perhaps you can use a GPS receiver to place yourself at the site of the cemetary. Or, if the old road shown leading to the cemetary is still present then you should be able to walk or ride back to the site. The cemetary appears to lie directly North of Benchmark 104 on the railroad, and about halfway between the gas line cut and the railroad. Otherwise, it is about 3/5ths of the distance from the road leading through Cameron (down towards Henderson Landing) and the road leading down to Evans Landing. I'll scan this map while offline and get back to you with attachment. Dale E. Reddick Jim Blease wrote: > Hello, Cyndi, > > Have heard some speculation that a member of the family who died in an > auto accident a few years ago may have removed the stones. It appeared > to be too neat a job for vandals; I probed the ground and did not find > even a broken piece of stone. I left the place clean inside and for > about 5 feet outside the wall; is it still in reasonable condition? > > I'm descended from Michael Young, son of William and Marie Henderson. > He moved to Thomas County and is buried there. > > Going South beyond the Cameron side road is a colored church on the > left; just beyond it is a brick house on the right owned by a colored > man named Shelly Young. He told me he knew where the Cameron cemetery > was located; had logged the area and left a large oak tree in the > cemetery because felling it would damage the stones and wall. He > couldn't go with me due to his wife's health and I was unable to find it > on my own. From his description it is on the Cameron road about half > way between Hwy 17 and the farm house (which I have been told was a > Henderson home built to replace one burned by Sherman). The cemetery, > if I understood him, is less than a 100 yards from the road on the right > side. > > If you can find it, please let me know. > > Jim > > RpKSaiL6@aol.com wrote: > > > > Jim, > > > > Thanks for the post. We did find the wall and what looked to be a grave site > > around Jarrell's Pond, but you are right that someone removed all the > > headstones. We're not so sure that it was vandals, either. Lots of things > > seem to have just 'dissappeared'. And yes, Cameron is gone, and the cemetary > > is not marked. We also have family we believe to be buried there - > > Hendersons, Youngs, and Camerons. > > The intact graves farther down, you say, are maybe Evans? Possibly so. (We > > also have Evans relatives.) My Great great grandfather was Captain William > > Michael Henderson and the house where our aunts (his surviving daughters) > > lived for many years was back up the road on HWY 17 towards Cooperville. They > > are all buried at Oak Grove Methodist cemetary. > > We will keep looking for the Cameron gravesite. > > Stay in touch. It was nice hearing from you. > > > > Cyndi Kinkel > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Hello, Cyndi, Have heard some speculation that a member of the family who died in an auto accident a few years ago may have removed the stones. It appeared to be too neat a job for vandals; I probed the ground and did not find even a broken piece of stone. I left the place clean inside and for about 5 feet outside the wall; is it still in reasonable condition? I'm descended from Michael Young, son of William and Marie Henderson. He moved to Thomas County and is buried there. Going South beyond the Cameron side road is a colored church on the left; just beyond it is a brick house on the right owned by a colored man named Shelly Young. He told me he knew where the Cameron cemetery was located; had logged the area and left a large oak tree in the cemetery because felling it would damage the stones and wall. He couldn't go with me due to his wife's health and I was unable to find it on my own. From his description it is on the Cameron road about half way between Hwy 17 and the farm house (which I have been told was a Henderson home built to replace one burned by Sherman). The cemetery, if I understood him, is less than a 100 yards from the road on the right side. If you can find it, please let me know. Jim RpKSaiL6@aol.com wrote: > > Jim, > > Thanks for the post. We did find the wall and what looked to be a grave site > around Jarrell's Pond, but you are right that someone removed all the > headstones. We're not so sure that it was vandals, either. Lots of things > seem to have just 'dissappeared'. And yes, Cameron is gone, and the cemetary > is not marked. We also have family we believe to be buried there - > Hendersons, Youngs, and Camerons. > The intact graves farther down, you say, are maybe Evans? Possibly so. (We > also have Evans relatives.) My Great great grandfather was Captain William > Michael Henderson and the house where our aunts (his surviving daughters) > lived for many years was back up the road on HWY 17 towards Cooperville. They > are all buried at Oak Grove Methodist cemetary. > We will keep looking for the Cameron gravesite. > Stay in touch. It was nice hearing from you. > > Cyndi Kinkel > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hi All, I am new to the list but have a question about these maps and where one might locate them. (geodetic?) I am trying to locate cemeteries where COURSEYS are buried in Screven County and also in Tatnall County.. Thanks, Nancy

Jim, Thanks for the post. We did find the wall and what looked to be a grave site around Jarrell's Pond, but you are right that someone removed all the headstones. We're not so sure that it was vandals, either. Lots of things seem to have just 'dissappeared'. And yes, Cameron is gone, and the cemetary is not marked. We also have family we believe to be buried there - Hendersons, Youngs, and Camerons. The intact graves farther down, you say, are maybe Evans? Possibly so. (We also have Evans relatives.) My Great great grandfather was Captain William Michael Henderson and the house where our aunts (his surviving daughters) lived for many years was back up the road on HWY 17 towards Cooperville. They are all buried at Oak Grove Methodist cemetary. We will keep looking for the Cameron gravesite. Stay in touch. It was nice hearing from you. Cyndi Kinkel

I have been overwhelmed, as expected, by requests. As states I have limimted time but will be glad to help. I will do them in the order received.

Hi Tom, Thanks so very much for your help. I have waited 59 yrs so no problem..I am use to waiting..lol.. Sincerely Suzanne Bragg-Cantu Suzi

Thank you for any help you can give me on John McGlohon or Lee McGlohon. I have Tad Evans Dodge County Newspaper clippings books vol. 1-12. If you need any lookups for these just e-mail. Thanks Brenda