Looking for the parents of Jennie Sowell who married Joseph W. Hand in Screven County in 1906. Have been told her Mother was a Hurst but I have no proof of this. Need all the help I can get. Thanks, Jean

Does anyone have a list of who is buried at North Newington Church in Screven County. I am interested in the Hand-Sowell-Watson-Hurst families. Thanks, Jean

I am looking for the grave of Joseph W. Hand in Screven County he was supposed to have died in 1917. Need all the help I can get. Thanks, Jean

Can anyone with the maps tell me if Hunters, Georgia is in Screven County? Thanks, Jean

Thanks Dale, for the map info. I do have a complete copy of the EFFINGHAM COUNTY CEMETERIES book. Not too many Courseys in there, but did locate some of my Courseys. I am connected through a second marriage of Jane E. (Hurst) Wolfe Coursey buried in Turkey Branch Bapt.Cemetery near Egypt. She first married John S. Wolfe and then to C.S. Coursey. Mr. Coursey is buried there also. Unable to find out what happened to John s. Wolfe or where he might be buried. Anyway there was a coursey son named Emmett S. Coursey whom I have some info. I have no idea from whre this family came. Thus my efforts to connect them to someone in surrounding area. Can locate Coursey names, but the difficulty is in putting them together! Having this map might be very useful! thanks so much, Judy Rountree Mason great-great grandaughter of Jane E. Hurst Wolfe. 2jv@bellsouth.net

Hello All, As I stated in an earlier posting, you can call the Georgia DOT office in Atlanta and ask for the Map Room. I believe that the first time I got topographic maps for the Screven Co. area was through the USGS office in Atlanta. Later, the Map Room at DOT had the same maps. Call 404-555-1212 and ask for the GA DOT offices in Atlanta. Then ask for the Map Room. They'll provide you with ordering information. For all I know, they now may accept credit card orders over the telephone. Dale ________________________________ VKRatliff@aol.com wrote: > Gee, Smith, you kind of threw me with that "dated" map comment. I never > asked if they had "back" issues, I just order the "current" ones. Each map > is "dated" and some of them are back in the 50's so its not like they issue > new ones each year. And I would further doubt that they were even producing > them in 1911. There ARE indeed maps of that era but NOT to my knowledge > specifically produced by the U. S. Geological Survey in this common format > for the whole U. S. I rather doubt that the U. S. Geological Survey was even > in operation in 1911. > > This one looks to me for all the world like a WPA project that someone in > government correctly figured actually served an on-going purpose so they kept > it alive. > > Typically, stores that specialize in camping and hiking stuff will have a few > topos on hand but they are usually ones that follow rivers or hiking areas or > at any rate aren't particularly aimed at genealogists.....unless you just > luck up on one. Usually they will order topos for you but they tack on a > profit so its easier to do it yourself. > > Many years ago the USGS had an office in Atlanta where you could just buy > topos over the counter but those days are long gone to the best of my > knowledge. > As you can imagine, these things don't exactly move like hotcakes so I > speculate the government centralized the inventory for the whole country and > you just order by mail. > > There may be an easier way to do it but my routine is to write: > > USGS - Information Services > P. O. Box 25286, Mail Stop 306 > Denver Federal Center > Denver, Colorado 80225 > > Request information for ordering topographic surveys and tell them which > state(s) you want. They will send you order forms and a huge, for example, > map of Georgia > that has the "quadranges" laid out over it so you will know which ones to > order. There will be lists of other maps of possibile interest.....4 maps to > make up all of Georgia for example, a map of the entire state, a map of each > county, other specialized maps, etc. Typically its 3 or 4 bucks per map > which you will consider a bargain when you get them. They are quite > professional and, on the 7.5 minute scale you can do some serious > pin-pointing. Contours are at 10' intervals. > > The "scale" you will likely want as a genealogist looking for (or plotting > the coordinates for a known location of) cemeteries, churches, etc. is called > "the 7.5 minute series", the 7 1/2 minutes being the "amount" of the > coordinates east to west and north to south. In scale 1" equals 2000 feet. > For example if you want to cover all of Screven County its about 8 or so > maps. You may not want them all. They have names like Sylvania North > Quadrange, Sylvania South Quadrangle, Hunter's Quadrangle, Brier Creek > Landing Quadrangle, Jacksonboro Bridge Quadrangle, etc. And you order them > just like that; i. e. specifying the names of the quadrangles. The "master" > map with the quadrangles on it locates topographical features, roads, rivers, > etc. so its not likely you will order more than you need if you have a fairly > good fix on where you are looking. > > In a couple of weeks you should get the ordering material from Denver and > then after you order its about another 3 to 4 weeks for delivery as I recall. > > I haven't done this drill in the last 3 or 4 years so if anyone knows if the > procedure is changed please hop in and correct. Hope this helps you. > > John M. Poythress > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Hi Victoria, The only Mt. Pleasant that I am familiar with is the Mt. Pleasant Plantation in Effingham Co. The present Mt. Pleasant is situated on Clyo-Kildare Rd. Old Mt. Pleasant lies closer to the river on one of the county dirt roads. Is that the area that you are looking for? Dale ________________________________ MyRx123@aol.com wrote: > Dale: > > Do you have the directions pertaining to the Mt. Pleasant area of Screven > County? > > I am interested in the area as it appeared in Civil War times. > > Thank you, > > Victoria > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Hello All, Regarding the Coursey thread that has developed. You might want to look around the area of COURSEY LANDING ROAD, which lies in extreme northeastern Effingham Co. It runs off of the Effingham Co. Springfield Road (which becomes Runs Branch Road upon entering Screven Co.) and heads over to towards the Savannah River, below the site of Eneck Landing in Screven Co. This area can be seen in the Kildare Quadrangle topographic / geodetic map. There is an Eneck cemetary on nearby Pryor Road (Screven Co.) and there is another cemetary located some short distance off of Springfield Road (in Effingham Co.). Now, just to make things worse (or, better[?]), there is also a Coursey Landing Road in Screven Co. This road runs off of Pryor Rd. and appears to run back into the area of the Eneck Landing or the Hudson Ferry Landing. Oh, there is also a Pryor Road in Effingham Co. - just South of Oliver. This cannot get too confusing. If Courseys were concentrated in the area that now has two roads named with the Coursey surname, then searches of the nearby cemetaries might be fruitful. Also, North Newington Church on GA 24 (in Screven Co.) and Mizpah Church located at the intersection Springfield and Clyo-Kildare Roads (in Effingham Co.) are very close by. If anyone wants a scanned image (or two) of the area with the two Coursey Landing Roads, I'll scan and e-mail the image as an attachment. There might be something to find in that area. Dale E. Reddick ________________________________ RNSANGLIN@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Since I am new to the list I would like to post my surnames: > > COURSEY, COLLINS, WILKES, MCGREGOR. > > I have tracked my COURSEY line back from Tatnall County in 1827. I am now > researching any links that might connect my line with those in Edgefield, SC > via Screven and Bulloch Counties. > > COURSEY, William A. b 1785 (est per census) m. COLLINS, Sarah b. 1809 > daughter of Joseph and Mary Sikes COLLINS. They were married in 1827 in > Tatnall County. > > William might be connected to William A. Coursey, sheriff of Screven County. > Might have had brothers Absalom and John Coursey. > > I am willing to share info with anyone researching this name. > > Thanks to all, > > Nancy > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Dear Mr. Poythress, I've used the term 'geodetic' ever since I was first exposed to this type of map as a teenager. I am unsure as to whether I am misapplying the term to the specific topographic maps that I have in my possession. The maps are of the "7.5 MINUTE SERIES (TOPOGRAPHIC)." Among the legend contents are the following references to the term geodtic: "CONTOUR INGERVAL 10 FEET - National Geodetic Vertical Datum Of 1929"; and "Control by USGS, NOS/NOAA, and Georgia Geodetic Survey." While the maps are clearly topographic maps, I've just learned to call them geodetic maps. Perhaps my usage of the term is wrong. Dale E. Reddick ________________________________ VKRatliff@aol.com wrote: > U. S. Geological Survey maps serve a number of purposes. If one can spot a > location on a quadrangle its not too tough to use a straight edge to get to > the cordinates yourself plus/minus a few "seconds" or two, thus eliminating > the need to buy a GPS for a one time use. Although these GPS things aren't > cheap, they are coming down all the time. I think the last one I saw was > couple hundred bucks. > > I plotted coordinates off of a quadrangle recently and put them on an > inventory of a "thought"-lost cemetery. > > Doing this has a couple of advantages. First, John Doe Road and Richard Roe > Street may not even be there a hundred years from now. With "conventional" > directions that future seeker is out of luck. But unless somebody explodes > the planet, those coordinates will always be the same and with a GPS one can > walk straight to the spot a thousand years from now. > > Second, one can be dealing with a landowner who is slightly anxious about > "publicity" and anticipates a bunch of amateur and/or destructive > genealogists showing up the next day (this rarely happens but its always an > apprehension for this type landowner even if you gave 'em a holy writ). > > The landowner doesn't want the publicity and you don't want to inventory a > cemetery and not provide a location. So, just list the coordinates......99% > of the "casual" genealogists around won't have the foggiest notion what that > string of numbers even is. But a "pro", whom we all like to presume will > treat the land and the landowner with a degree of respect, will read those > numbers in a heartbeat. With quadrangle in hand he or she will be right on > the money in a few minutes. > > My question: several of the previous posts have referred to "geodetic" maps > and the implication given is that they are much more detailed than geological > survey quadrangles. I have always thought the geodetics were very large > scale and made only for dialing in or out the curvature of the earth. Is > "geodetic" just another name some are using for the same quadrangles or is > there a better source I've been missing here? > > Thanks, > > John M. Poythress > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Judy Mason: 1) Do you have any info on any Howells, particularly Caleb, Sr., Caleb, Jr., Philip, Thomas, Daniel in Effingham County cemetery books. This would have been Civil War to early 1800's. 2) Are you related to the Masons on Virginia, and later, Knox Co., KY? I am researching Sarah Ann Mason m. John Madison Spurlock. Thanks, Victoria

Dale: The family I am researching is Howell. What you refer to as "the old one" is to have been their home prior to and during the Civil War. Several of Caleb Howell's children were to have been born at Mt. Pleasant. Family members have seen the baptism records of my gg-grandfather at an Effingham area church. Any further notations I should have to get a map of the area, at that time? Thanks, Victoria

Hi Group!! On the subject of USGS maps... I just ordered 12 of them online, 4 bucks each, $5 shipping no matter how many you buy. web address is http://mapping.usgs.gov/esic I ordered my maps this past friday, I expext to have them by the end of the week. seemed pretty easy to me. Barb ID472@aol.com

Gee, Smith, you kind of threw me with that "dated" map comment. I never asked if they had "back" issues, I just order the "current" ones. Each map is "dated" and some of them are back in the 50's so its not like they issue new ones each year. And I would further doubt that they were even producing them in 1911. There ARE indeed maps of that era but NOT to my knowledge specifically produced by the U. S. Geological Survey in this common format for the whole U. S. I rather doubt that the U. S. Geological Survey was even in operation in 1911. This one looks to me for all the world like a WPA project that someone in government correctly figured actually served an on-going purpose so they kept it alive. Typically, stores that specialize in camping and hiking stuff will have a few topos on hand but they are usually ones that follow rivers or hiking areas or at any rate aren't particularly aimed at genealogists.....unless you just luck up on one. Usually they will order topos for you but they tack on a profit so its easier to do it yourself. Many years ago the USGS had an office in Atlanta where you could just buy topos over the counter but those days are long gone to the best of my knowledge. As you can imagine, these things don't exactly move like hotcakes so I speculate the government centralized the inventory for the whole country and you just order by mail. There may be an easier way to do it but my routine is to write: USGS - Information Services P. O. Box 25286, Mail Stop 306 Denver Federal Center Denver, Colorado 80225 Request information for ordering topographic surveys and tell them which state(s) you want. They will send you order forms and a huge, for example, map of Georgia that has the "quadranges" laid out over it so you will know which ones to order. There will be lists of other maps of possibile interest.....4 maps to make up all of Georgia for example, a map of the entire state, a map of each county, other specialized maps, etc. Typically its 3 or 4 bucks per map which you will consider a bargain when you get them. They are quite professional and, on the 7.5 minute scale you can do some serious pin-pointing. Contours are at 10' intervals. The "scale" you will likely want as a genealogist looking for (or plotting the coordinates for a known location of) cemeteries, churches, etc. is called "the 7.5 minute series", the 7 1/2 minutes being the "amount" of the coordinates east to west and north to south. In scale 1" equals 2000 feet. For example if you want to cover all of Screven County its about 8 or so maps. You may not want them all. They have names like Sylvania North Quadrange, Sylvania South Quadrangle, Hunter's Quadrangle, Brier Creek Landing Quadrangle, Jacksonboro Bridge Quadrangle, etc. And you order them just like that; i. e. specifying the names of the quadrangles. The "master" map with the quadrangles on it locates topographical features, roads, rivers, etc. so its not likely you will order more than you need if you have a fairly good fix on where you are looking. In a couple of weeks you should get the ordering material from Denver and then after you order its about another 3 to 4 weeks for delivery as I recall. I haven't done this drill in the last 3 or 4 years so if anyone knows if the procedure is changed please hop in and correct. Hope this helps you. John M. Poythress

Dale: Do you have the directions pertaining to the Mt. Pleasant area of Screven County? I am interested in the area as it appeared in Civil War times. Thank you, Victoria

Where can someone buy a 1911 geological survey map? I want one for Bulloch, Liberty and Bryan Counties. SCB ----- Original Message ----- From: <VKRatliff@aol.com> To: <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: [GASCREVE] "Geodetic" Maps > U. S. Geological Survey maps serve a number of purposes. If one can spot a > location on a quadrangle its not too tough to use a straight edge to get to > the cordinates yourself plus/minus a few "seconds" or two, thus eliminating > the need to buy a GPS for a one time use. Although these GPS things aren't > cheap, they are coming down all the time. I think the last one I saw was > couple hundred bucks. > > I plotted coordinates off of a quadrangle recently and put them on an > inventory of a "thought"-lost cemetery. > > Doing this has a couple of advantages. First, John Doe Road and Richard Roe > Street may not even be there a hundred years from now. With "conventional" > directions that future seeker is out of luck. But unless somebody explodes > the planet, those coordinates will always be the same and with a GPS one can > walk straight to the spot a thousand years from now. > > Second, one can be dealing with a landowner who is slightly anxious about > "publicity" and anticipates a bunch of amateur and/or destructive > genealogists showing up the next day (this rarely happens but its always an > apprehension for this type landowner even if you gave 'em a holy writ). > > The landowner doesn't want the publicity and you don't want to inventory a > cemetery and not provide a location. So, just list the coordinates......99% > of the "casual" genealogists around won't have the foggiest notion what that > string of numbers even is. But a "pro", whom we all like to presume will > treat the land and the landowner with a degree of respect, will read those > numbers in a heartbeat. With quadrangle in hand he or she will be right on > the money in a few minutes. > > My question: several of the previous posts have referred to "geodetic" maps > and the implication given is that they are much more detailed than geological > survey quadrangles. I have always thought the geodetics were very large > scale and made only for dialing in or out the curvature of the earth. Is > "geodetic" just another name some are using for the same quadrangles or is > there a better source I've been missing here? > > Thanks, > > John M. Poythress > > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

I apologize. I may have forward two messages to the list that sould have gone to a private e-mail address. In my excitment I just forwarded my replies, not thinking, to the list. One had an attachment which I know is not allowable. Judy

Happy 4th Jack, from Louisiana! good to hear from another Coursey researcher. I must explain that I haven't much on my Coursey connection, and it is from Effingham County. but have seen the Courseys in several surrounding area and wonder if they are not somehow connected! I have had several other "bites" over the past few months, but nothing that connected. so I do have a few contacts that you might be interested in also. Will send my small Coursy file to you as attachement. Let me know if you can open it ok. Some can-some can't. I have Family Tree Maker software. but have set this up just as a test file rather than in FTM format. I don't know much about the Coursey's even tho I reside here. Just come back to Ga. two years ago. After being in New England for 34 years. Have a contact here that is also related to the coursey and have been trying to get in touch with her. She knows all of these local families and their histories! Norman Jean is quite busy as she works in State House in Atlanta, now. I will cathch her one of these days and hopefully she can also help us with this family. Would also like to see your info. With regards, Judy Rountree Mason 2jv@bellsouth.net -----Original Message----- From: COMMZEBRA@aol.com <COMMZEBRA@aol.com> To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] COURSEY SURNAME > > Hey Judy..........I saw your Coursey notice..........I some Coursey data >from Screven County, Ga..........would like to exchange data with you > > Jack Tomlin................in Louisiana > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Hi Everyone, Since I am new to the list I would like to post my surnames: COURSEY, COLLINS, WILKES, MCGREGOR. I have tracked my COURSEY line back from Tatnall County in 1827. I am now researching any links that might connect my line with those in Edgefield, SC via Screven and Bulloch Counties. COURSEY, William A. b 1785 (est per census) m. COLLINS, Sarah b. 1809 daughter of Joseph and Mary Sikes COLLINS. They were married in 1827 in Tatnall County. William might be connected to William A. Coursey, sheriff of Screven County. Might have had brothers Absalom and John Coursey. I am willing to share info with anyone researching this name. Thanks to all, Nancy

Nancy, I too am researching a Coursey line, last found in Effingham Co.Ga. Could you contact me? Judy Rountree Mason Rincon, Ga. Effingham Co. 2jv@bellsouth.net

I have a Coursey married to Kate A Dixon She was born about 1885. They lived either in Savannah or Brunswich Ga. Any connection ? My Email: wcanddot@zebra.net Thanks, Dorothy Wilson Simpson -----Original Message----- From: COMMZEBRA@aol.com <COMMZEBRA@aol.com> To: GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com <GASCREVE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [GASCREVE] COURSEY SURNAME > > Hey Judy..........I saw your Coursey notice..........I some Coursey data >from Screven County, Ga..........would like to exchange data with you > > Jack Tomlin................in Louisiana > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >