Yes, I remember, I have visited Bert myself and think he is a wonderful person. I think the last time I was up there was about three years ago and he was off on vacation. I hope to get back that way this spring. Cysee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold & Betty Garrard" <heg@netcommander.com> To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [GARRARD] Re: Garrad Family WELCOME, Ralph >I don't recall if he told us when he moved there. The house he lives in is > white with a tin roof. > Harold & Betty Garrard > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Skeens" <skeens@bellsouth.net> > To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:38 PM > Subject: Re: [GARRARD] Re: Garrad Family WELCOME, Ralph > > >> Harold, >> When did Daniel move to the house that Bert lives in, do you know a > date? >> I was thinking he lived in the old White house in Garrard for a while. >> I >> know that Will Horton and Nellie Layton lived there when all their > children >> were born. >> >> Cysee >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harold & Betty Garrard" <heg@netcommander.com> >> To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [GARRARD] Re: Garrad Family WELCOME, Ralph >> >> >> > To Ralph Bowling: >> > >> > Bertram Stivers himself told us that the house he lived in was built by >> > Daniel Garrard in 1834. It is in Greenbriar just 3 miles from > Manchester. >> > The home that my father, his father and the Gen. T. T. Garrard lived in >> > was >> > sold by them and on to 2 or 3 others and those people we talked to in >> > 1989. >> > The house was torn down and Daniel Boone Parkway was built through > there. >> > The people that had last lived there built a house down below from the >> > highway and we visited with the lady. She gave us some of the brick > that >> > came from the house. I have a list somewhere of the times it was sold. >> > But >> > that was Gen Theophulis Toulmin Garrard's house. The one Bertram > Stivers >> > lived in was Daniel's and Daniel was Theophulis Toulmin's father. >> > Sincerely yours >> > Harold Edward Garrard >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Bill & Sue Canavan" <canavania@earthlink.net> >> > To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11 >> > :41 AM >> > Subject: [GARRARD] Re: Garrad Family WELCOME, Ralph >> > >> > >> >> I am on Overload with wondrous Holiday stuff. Please email me again > after >> >> Christmas. I am eager to share my extensive family research. I have >> >> documented chronologies which often include clues and identified > unproven >> >> data. The most thorough is for Daniel Garrard but I also have lots on >> > James, >> >> T.T.and Eliza Anne Garrard, Daniel's oldest child and my >> > grgrgrgrandmother. >> >> Also quite a bit on Hon. Harry Toulmin, who should not be ignored as a >> > major >> >> contributor to our family. Quite a bit, also on collateral families. >> >> >> >> Glad to have you aboard on the Genealogical Journey. Sue Rydberg > Canavan >> > in >> >> Santa Rosa CA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: <sierra@iglou.com> >> >> To: <canavania@earthlink.net>; <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com>; >> > <sierra@iglou.com> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:41 PM >> >> Subject: Garrad Family >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello Harold,Betty,Bill,& Sue, >> >> > >> >> > My name is Ralph Bowling. I came across copies of your e-mails >> >> > below >> >> > while playing with Google. Bertram Stivers is my uncle. I am the >> >> > self- >> >> > appointed genealogist of my generation. I do not believe that Uncle >> >> > Bertram's house belonged to Daniel Garrard. I am pretty sure that > the >> >> > Garrard place in Clay County, KY burned in the early 1900s. I would >> > like >> >> > to learn more of what you know of the Garrard family. What > information >> > I >> >> > have is in Family Tree maker although I am several versions out of >> >> > date. >> >> > I have a great deal of information from the Garrard book, c. 1890, >> >> > which >> >> > chronicles the descendants of Gov. James Garrard. Uncle Bertram has > an >> >> > original copy. Please send me an e-mail. Below is part of my > Garrard >> >> > background (although I have more than one branch of that tree). >> >> > >> >> > Ralph Eugene Bowling 1965- (me) >> >> > Sophia Garrard Stivers 1934- (my mother, sister of Bertram) >> >> > Louise Dickinson Burchell 1898-1986 (her mother) >> >> > Sophia Garrard (her mother) >> >> > Gen. T.T. Garrard (her father) >> >> > Col. Daniel Garrard (his father) >> >> > Gov. Jame Garrard (his father) >> >> > >> >> > I would be very happy to make your aquaintance and learn more about >> >> > your >> >> > branch of our family. I hope to hear from you soon. >> >> > >> >> > Ralph Bowling >> >> > 2225 Wendell Ave >> >> > Louisville, KY 40205 >> >> > (502) 459-3649 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > GARRARD-L Archives >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: "Bill & Sue Canavan" <canavania@earthlink.net> >> >> > Subject: [GARRARD] Sorry, the mind is a sieve >> >> > Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:49:36 -0700 >> >> > References: <121.1195bb21.2a26834a@aol.com> <00ef01c20764$aade13c0 >> >> > $25038a42@netcommander.com> > <008501c20766$72baf970$74d2fc9e@CANAVANIA> >> >> > <010a01c2076b$9f114740$25038a42@netcommander.com> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dear Harold and Betty, I was sure you were the ones who couldn't >> >> > find >> > the >> >> > name of the descendent living in Daniel's house. It may have been >> > someone >> >> > else. Sorry, for the duplicated data. Do you know how This Bertram >> > Stivers >> >> > is related? >> >> > I love the photos you sent and thought I was giving you some info. >> >> > >> >> > I have sent an inquiry on my Garrard-Price Email List [I will put >> >> > you >> >> > on >> >> > it. >> >> > I just use it to communicate anything I have found pertinent to all > of >> > our >> >> > family research. I sent the chronologies of Daniel Garrard and > Gabriel >> >> > Price, so far.] We have had several people describe the Garrard >> >> > cemetery >> >> > as >> >> > very overgrown and in general disrepair. We are hoping to find > someone >> >> > local >> >> > to clean it up - esp. in time for the Potter/Price Reunion to be in >> >> > Manchester the end of June. [Might you be able to attend?] I have >> >> > suggested >> >> > people contribute what they want/can to get this going. So far we > have >> >> > $100.00 promised! This is all within 3 days. I am impressed with >> > people's >> >> > interest and generosity. Anyway, Clara Keyes is looking into The >> >> > Gen. >> > T.T. >> >> > Garrard Brigade as it is a volunteer group that keeps T.T''s grave >> >> > tidy. >> >> > She >> >> > hopes they will be willing to take on the whole cemetery as a >> > fundraiser. >> >> > If >> >> > you get more emails referring to this project now you will know as > much >> > as >> >> > any of us. If you have comments, they are most welcome. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for you help and interest. Sue Canavan >> >> > PS I was gone for 11 days in April and 5 in May and have had lots of >> >> > company >> >> > but nothing compared with what is coming down the Pike in June and >> >> > July. >> >> > Summer is fun. SRC >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Harold & Betty Garrard" <heg@netcommander.com> >> >> > To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:50 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [GARRARD] Would love your input on Garrard Cemetery >> >> > idea >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> We were the ones that told you that & sent you pictures of the > house. >> >> > You >> >> >> were fixing to leave and were going to be gone a few days and then > get >> >> > back >> >> >> to us, but this is the first we have heard from you since. >> >> >> >> >> >> Harold & Betty >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: Bill & Sue Canavan <canavania@earthlink.net> >> >> >> To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:13 PM >> >> >> Subject: [GARRARD] Would love your input on Garrard Cemetery idea >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Harold and Betty, Did I ever tell you that someone emailed >> >> >> > me >> >> > with >> >> >> the >> >> >> > name of the Daniel Garrard descendent living in Dan's old house? >> >> > Bertram >> >> >> > Stiver is the name I have. >> >> >> > I would love your comments on the Garrard Cemetery Cleanup idea. > We >> >> > have >> >> >> > $100.00 promised, so far, and Clara is looking into having the > Gen. >> >> > T.T. >> >> >> > Garrard group [they already keep his grave tidy] take > responsibility >> >> > for >> >> >> the >> >> >> > entire cemetery - if we can determine that the cost is >> >> >> > reasonable. >> >> >> > Sue Canavan >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> > From: "Harold & Betty Garrard" <heg@netcommander.com> >> >> >> > To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:00 PM >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [GARRARD] GENEALOGY HALL OF SHAME >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Thanks Sandi, but we haven't joined any of the sites. 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