I apologize if you all get this message twice. I believe I only sent it to Gregg. Sorry about that! Cousin Shelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich and Shelly Stropes To: Greggory E. Davies Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [GARRARD] Garrard pronunciation Hi all! I find this so interesting. I am from East Central Illinois where we pronounce it "Juh-rard" (thank you Gregg). Although I have heard my grandma say "Garrid", or something close to that. It is so hard to get out of the habits you have formed for 30+ years! But I'm trying! Cousin Shelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Greggory E. Davies To: GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: [GARRARD] Garrard pronunciation Sandi, You make a good point. For years, before I ever actually exchanged actual mouth to ear conversation with anyone about the Garrard family, I assumed that our Garrard was pronounced "Juh - rard" as in beginning with the "J" sound, second syllable rhyming with "yard". Sorry but I'm no English major or diction expert, so use your imagination. Anyway, Cousin Kay Withers graciously straightened me out, and I thank her for it, but since she did I've had arguments over the years as to how it's pronounced. I've conditioned myself to say it properly though. Gregg Davies ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [GARRARD] My connection to Garrard Family > > In a message dated 9/5/03 10:31:41 PM, TalkingTer@aol.com writes: > > << Janna, Who are you connected, to Rev. John Gerrard, Gerard, Garrard > pronounced Ger- ard of Berkeley Co., Va. or Col. Wm. Garrard, pronounced G' > air- id of > Stafford Co., Va.?, Terry Lee Garrard Sr. of Cincinnati >> > > Terry: > > After my first call from cousin Harold Garrard, recently, did I find out our > family name is pronounced Garrad. Am glad Harold told me. A Williams cousin > sent me some of her family branch names and one had the middle name of Garrid. > She said that's how it was pronounced. I didn't think much about it at that > time other than wondering. Her family is in the William Garrard Williams > section. His sister, Mary Jane Williams was my GG grandma married to John > Maupin. The mother of William and Mary Jane was Margaret Toulmin [Garrard] > Williams. She was a sister to T. T. Garrard. > > Cousin Sandi Carter > Frazier Park, California > > > ==== GARRARD Mailing List ==== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > <http://pml.rootsweb.com> > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== GARRARD Mailing List ==== How do you join Ancestry or do online shopping so that RootsWeb gets a percentage? Start here <http://www.rootsweb.com/~affiliate/> and click on the link for Genealogy, Autos, Books, etc. on the left side of the page. Support RootsWeb for free! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Terry, I have an extended connection to Rev. John Gerrard, Gerard, Garrard pronounced Ger- ard of Berkeley Co., Va....through the Goodin, Van Meter, Swank and Lee connections. The families intermarried for several generations to create an interesting weave of kin as they moved from VA and KY to MO. Janna

Sandi, You make a good point. For years, before I ever actually exchanged actual mouth to ear conversation with anyone about the Garrard family, I assumed that our Garrard was pronounced "Juh - rard" as in beginning with the "J" sound, second syllable rhyming with "yard". Sorry but I'm no English major or diction expert, so use your imagination. Anyway, Cousin Kay Withers graciously straightened me out, and I thank her for it, but since she did I've had arguments over the years as to how it's pronounced. I've conditioned myself to say it properly though. Gregg Davies ----- Original Message ----- From: <SandKatC@aol.com> To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [GARRARD] My connection to Garrard Family > > In a message dated 9/5/03 10:31:41 PM, TalkingTer@aol.com writes: > > << Janna, Who are you connected, to Rev. John Gerrard, Gerard, Garrard > pronounced Ger- ard of Berkeley Co., Va. or Col. Wm. Garrard, pronounced G' > air- id of > Stafford Co., Va.?, Terry Lee Garrard Sr. of Cincinnati >> > > Terry: > > After my first call from cousin Harold Garrard, recently, did I find out our > family name is pronounced Garrad. Am glad Harold told me. A Williams cousin > sent me some of her family branch names and one had the middle name of Garrid. > She said that's how it was pronounced. I didn't think much about it at that > time other than wondering. Her family is in the William Garrard Williams > section. His sister, Mary Jane Williams was my GG grandma married to John > Maupin. The mother of William and Mary Jane was Margaret Toulmin [Garrard] > Williams. She was a sister to T. T. Garrard. > > Cousin Sandi Carter > Frazier Park, California > > > ==== GARRARD Mailing List ==== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > <http://pml.rootsweb.com> > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

IM me if your still on line. I can answer some of your ? Ter

In a message dated 9/5/03 10:31:41 PM, TalkingTer@aol.com writes: << Janna, Who are you connected, to Rev. John Gerrard, Gerard, Garrard pronounced Ger- ard of Berkeley Co., Va. or Col. Wm. Garrard, pronounced G' air- id of Stafford Co., Va.?, Terry Lee Garrard Sr. of Cincinnati >> Terry: After my first call from cousin Harold Garrard, recently, did I find out our family name is pronounced Garrad. Am glad Harold told me. A Williams cousin sent me some of her family branch names and one had the middle name of Garrid. She said that's how it was pronounced. I didn't think much about it at that time other than wondering. Her family is in the William Garrard Williams section. His sister, Mary Jane Williams was my GG grandma married to John Maupin. The mother of William and Mary Jane was Margaret Toulmin [Garrard] Williams. She was a sister to T. T. Garrard. Cousin Sandi Carter Frazier Park, California

Janna, Who are you connected, to Rev. John Gerrard, Gerard, Garrard pronounced Ger- ard of Berkeley Co., Va. or Col. Wm. Garrard, pronounced G' air- id of Stafford Co., Va.?, Terry Lee Garrard Sr. of Cincinnati

This is the first time I have seen the Garrard's that I search mentioned in this list, other than by myself. I will send you what I have through email. Janna > >

Hi Jamie: You have this line: John Garrard B Abt 1720 John Garrard B Abt 1744~Susan Van Meter Margaret "Pegg" Garrd B 27 Jan 1774~Samuel Goodin Garrard Goodin B 25 May 1795 William H. Goodin Who was the father of the first John Garrard? I don't have the above people in my FTM so would like to find their niche and add them. Best, Sandi Carter

Garrard Goodin is my GGGgrandfather Garrard died 9 March 1840 in Mississippi County Missouri. My family still lives in Mississippi Co., but I have not found where he is buried. My Connection to The Garrard Family is as follows: I have not verified the following information, but believe it to be accurate. Garrard Goodin b 25 May 1795 was the son of Samuel Goodin and Margaret "Peggy" Garrard b. 27 Jan, 1774 Margret was Daughter of John Garrard Jr. b. Abt 1744 and Susan Van Meter John was Son of John Garrard b. Abt 1720 Does any one have any information on Garrard Goodin, or his son William H. Goodin? My Email address is JBJB@MIDWEST.NET Thank you, Jamie Small

Dear Cousins, Before I say anything, have you seen the show on the History Channel show about the Clay County Feud. They called the show "The Clay County War" Anyway, it was the worst feud in Ky. History. I am how hearing that it lasted about 100 years (From 1844 to 1941). World War 11 tended to stop it. Between 150 and 200 people died in the feud. It is thought that the seed of the feud started over a salt price war in the 1830's between the Whites and Garrards. The Garrards backed one side and the Whites the other. My movie script tells the details of the feud I am trying to sell. Love Ter in Cincinnati.

My gosh Ter, you have never told me I needed to be digging for dirt on Daniel.....You really need to tell us. Tell us boy.... we can all enjoy the dirt together. Sug

Yeah, Terry, I am in his "Uncle Daniel's" line, whom he was possible named for, so I would liket o hear it, too! After all, it's all in the Family!! Cuz Jane Steen Chiarizia Vienna, VA. (where we are having a thunderstorm, so better get off here right now!) Back later to read all this juicy past!

Terry: Lets hear the colorful past of Daniel, since I'm in his line. Cuz Sandi Carter Frazier Park, California << The other thing that has stumped me is of the Governor's 9 children that married, 65% of the online researchers are from son Daniel with the blackest past. LOL Terry Lee Garrard, Sr. >> Cinti.

Dear Talkin Ter, Cousin, you never let me know that Old Danny was a scoundrel. I sent you his Chronology but not much in there makes him one with the "blackest past". I love learning about the scoundrels in my ancestor gene pool and some of Dan's descendants can qualify - some closer to my own generation, even. So, please share anything about Daniel that you know that I haven't included in the chronology. Thanks. Sue Rydberg Canavan in Santa Rosa. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TalkingTer@aol.com> To: <GARRARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: [GARRARD] Sherry sorry to see your still look for Gray > Sherry, Long time no see. Sherry I hate to say it but the least traced line > of Governor James Garrard four sons was John Mountjoy Garrard's in the 1898 > family book. As I think I told you I have one of the original 1898 books and > copied the 1962 positcript that only deals with the early Va. roots. (Dana > Strong, the book will not help Sherry) Anne des Cognets edited the 1898 book to > only say positive things on the families. > The bad part is most of the new information on John Mountjoy > Garrard's family has been found by me (Terry in Cincinnati) and my cousin Terry in > Florida. The second bad part that there are only about 4 of us from John Mountjoy > Garrard's line, online researching JMG's tree. The other thing that has > stumped me is of the Governor's 9 children that married, 65% of the online > researchers are from son Daniel with the blackest past. LOL Terry Lee Garrard, Sr. > Cinti. > > > ==== GARRARD Mailing List ==== > Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Just now, many Internet users are experiencing problems with their computers shutting down abruptly. It is the result of a computer vulnerability and is being experienced by computer users around the world. It is due to a computer worm that scans computers checking to see if port 135 is open. If so, the worm takes advantage of the computer and shuts it down. If your computer has not been infected, you should go to one of the web sites shown below to update your anti-virus software or install a patch to prevent infection. Here is a Microsoft bulletin regarding this vulnerability: http://www.microsoft.com/security/security_bulletins/ms03-026.asp Here is an update from Symantec: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/security/Content/8205.html Here is an update from McAfee: http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp? id=description&virus_k=100547 If your computer becomes infected and gets shut down, you will need to follow these steps (you may want to print them for future reference): Unplug modem. Attention: PC users I felt this was important enough to send to all my lists. I've been hearing about it all day on the TV news. So, please read and beware! Best, Sandi Carter List mom Restart computer. Go to Start / Search / For Files and Folders. Confirm that Look in is set for C: drive. Search for files and folders named: "MSBLAST.exe" When computer finds the msblast file(s), right click on the file names and delete all copies of the file. Shut down the machine. Plug the modem back in. Restart the machine. Go directly to one of the web sites above and install the patch and/or update.

Terry, I cannot give out information wihout permission. I will, however, give you the names of George and Daisy's children and death date, if applicable. All the children were born at home in Garrard with the exception of Price who was born at the hospital in Manchester. Lillian Blanche Horton b 6 Dec 1913 Garrard, Clay County, Kentucky d 5 Jan 1934 unmarried Grayce Lees Horton (Living) married 18 July (?) Dover Anthony Dicks b 18 July 1917 d 16 October 1995 Seminole, FL Raphael George Horton b 08 November 1918 d 26 July 2003 Loveland, Clermont Co., OH married Gladys Ely b 07 April 1921 d November 1986 Loveland, Clermont Co., OH Joseph Glenn Horton (Living) married Ruby Curry Earl William Horton (Living) married Edith Giley Ernest P. Horton b 17 August 1926 d December 1986, married three times Edgar Layton Horton (Living) married three times Price Horton (Living) married six times Ira David Horton b Garrard, Clay Co, KY (Living)

Hi All: I feel the below is useful for researchers so am sharing what Mike wrote. Sandi Carter List mom In a message dated 8/1/03 1:07:21, mikegoad@stellar-one.com writes: << Hi all, I have written a new article on copyright and genealogy that I am making available with free reprint and redistribution rights. Please feel free to use it on your mailing lists or web pages if you deem it appropriate. Often, in genealogy, questions related to copyright arise. For several years, I've had a website where I tried to answer many of those questions and I've actively participated in the discussions on the copyright-l mailing list at RootsWeb. More recently, I've been writing articles based on what I've learned about copyright, which I am also posting online. My most recent article is intended to apply some basics of copyright to genealogy related issues. "Copyright Fundamentals for Genealogy," was specifically written to grant free reprint and redistribution rights. It is located at: http://www.stellar-one.com/copyright_concepts/fundamentals_gene.htm . Please feel free to use the article for any genealogy related use, such as: - your own website (with its look and feel), - email to others, - mailing list posting, - genealogy or historical society newsletter, - as a free handout at libraries The only restrictions that I have for its use is that its text is not edited or altered and, if used in a website, that a link is provided back to my copyright website. Thanks Mike Goad http://stellar-one.com >>

Terry, I don't think I can do that, if you will take Wilma's line through her two daughters that should do enough, this is a funny family and with out permission from the lot I don't feel free to give their information for publication. I know Wilma has five step children that are set against any type of family research. So if you will just leave Wilma's line at her two Daughters, by Hiram Taylor Cysee TalkingTer@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Gloria, for answering my Baxter question but not I have a bigger > question. I would like to add all of Wilma's line to my 1898 update of Anna Russell > des Cognets book to 2003. Please send me Wilma, descendents of names, dates, > and places. > Cousin Terry of Cincinnati. > > ==== GARRARD Mailing List ==== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Gloria, for answering my Baxter question but not I have a bigger question. I would like to add all of Wilma's line to my 1898 update of Anna Russell des Cognets book to 2003. Please send me Wilma, descendents of names, dates, and places. Cousin Terry of Cincinnati.

Terrie, I will answer for Wilma, she is my grandmother. I have not found any Baxter's in the line. But do know that a preacher/Doctor Baxter was in the area and seemed to be a big friend of the family so Wilma got his surname as a remembrance to him and his lines. Hope this helps. Cysee TalkingTer@aol.com wrote: > Dear Sue Horton and online Family, could you please fill in the descendients > of the tree George B. Horton and Daisy House. Names, Dates, and places. I only > have your father Price and now Ralph of the eight children. How do Ralph's > grand childern link to him? Sue do you have any sibs? Do you have and info on > Wilma Baxter Nellie Horton b. about 1898. Were George or Daisy related to any > Baxters? My GGM was Hettie Baxter.. Terry of Cincinnati. > > ==== GARRARD Mailing List ==== > Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. To search RootsWeb list archives: > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237