Joan, Mine are from N.J. but where they were before 1779 is beyond me. Anyone missing a CHARLES GARDNER b. 7/9/1779, ????? records say N.J., but I cant find him anywhere , He did die in N,J on 1/17/1863. and married Lydia Whitcraft [ Flitcraft] in 1800, Mount Holly, Burlington Co. N.J. and sired 12 little GARDNERS, males named William, Joseph and George later we added some Herberts, but more or less got stuck with the 1st three names.down thru the years, Lydia was first generation from England, was CHARLES???? Is anyone missing in your Gardner line ???? Help !!! Gerri Gardner Sage in N.J.