John Gardner did generate some records and that's the way I will try to find him. I may or may not be successful. If I were to try to tie him to another Gardner, I would go for the obvious, Richard Gardner, Mayflower seaman. John could have been an immigrant or he could have been born anywhere between what is now Maine and the southern region of what was then the Virginia Company. Too many Gardners to try to connect to. Charles -----Original Message----- From: muriah <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: 1623 IMMIGRANT JOHN GARDNER Re: [GARDNER] John Gardner, Plymouth, Marshfield, MA 1600s >If I were researching this, I might first theorize and then research whether >this John Gardner is descendant or relative of John Gardner who came from >England to MA in 1623 with his father, Thomas Gardner, and family, and lived >first at Cape Ann and then Boston and then Nantucket and then the migration from >the island to Carolina during the war. >If not relative of that Immigrant, than perhaps of immigrant Lyon Gardner of >Gardner Island. >________

The obvious is wrong. According to my family mythology, we were supposedly descendants from Richard Gardner of the Mayflower. I was impressed with his bold signature when I saw it at the site on Cape Cod. I set out to get proof of our relationship in order to get one of the Mayflower Descendant Certificates for a relative, as a gift. After many hints that there was no trace of any descendants from that seaman, I finally found historical notation of the time that Richard Gardner of the Mayflower died at sea never having married and without offspring, according to records of the time and as far as was known by the people of the time. The only Gardner that I find in the first decade of immigration from England to America, the early 1600s, is the Thomas Gardner family with sons John & Richard. There is the Lyon Gardener family, but that is not Gardner. There is the family of a female L Gardner that seems to be separate from those two immigrant families, and associated with Canada, but the immigration data of that family seems to not be established and/or available, and may be a later arrival. Muriah _______________ charles brack wrote: > John Gardner did generate some records and that's the way I will try to find > him. I may or may not be successful. > > If I were to try to tie him to another Gardner, I would go for the obvious, > Richard Gardner, Mayflower seaman. > > John could have been an immigrant or he could have been born anywhere > between what is now Maine and the southern region of what was then the > Virginia Company. Too many Gardners to try to connect to. > > Charles > > -----Original Message----- > From: muriah <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:53 PM > Subject: 1623 IMMIGRANT JOHN GARDNER Re: [GARDNER] John Gardner, Plymouth, > Marshfield, MA 1600s > > >If I were researching this, I might first theorize and then research > whether > >this John Gardner is descendant or relative of John Gardner who came from > >England to MA in 1623 with his father, Thomas Gardner, and family, and > lived > >first at Cape Ann and then Boston and then Nantucket and then the migration > from > >the island to Carolina during the war. > >If not relative of that Immigrant, than perhaps of immigrant Lyon Gardner > of > >Gardner Island. > >________ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp