There is a German surname Goertner which could easily have evolved into Gardner. There is a Gertner Web Site but it seems to be mostly Hungarian. We, my Muttdom family, decided we refuse to be English. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "mms1453" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: [GARDNER] GARDNERS: THOMAS,CHARLES,VIRGIL IN NEW YORK'S COLUMBIA & DUTCHESS CO > Thurs.6/14 > Gardner List: > > Sending this out again! Hard to believe no substantive responses!! > > > > To the two Marilyns, Muriah, Charles, Mike...or other Gardners, > > > > With all of you and your queries re Thomas etal, I must sign in at this > > appropriate time and tell you that my earliest GARDNER descendant is > > Thomas, b circa 1811, possibly in Germantown, New York. He had 7 > > children: Leonard; William, who died in Civil War; Martha; Mary; Ida; > > Emma; and my GrGrGrandfather, Charles H. GARDNER, b ca 1828. > > > > Charles Gardner m. Catherine SCISM GARDNER. They had 10 children: > > Wesley; Charles; Frank; Hannah; Elizabeth; Carrie; Minnie; Maude; Emma; > > and my GrGrandfather Virgil GARDNER, b 1852. > > > > Virgil H.GARDNER m. Mary Elizabeth Rifenburgh GARDNER. They had one > > child, my Grandmother, Stella Margaret GARDNER, b 1883. Virgil was Town > > Clerk, Tivoli,NY, before he died ca 1908. > > > > I have made no connections beyond Thomas, but most of these relatives > > seem to have lived a good deal of their lives in Columbia or Dutchess > > Counties, New York. Thomas' wife, I believe, was Hannah Elizabeth HOVER > > and they are both my "dead-ends". > > > > I also have surnames of many of the above siblings, but nothing that has > > helped me...unless I do not know where to look...the most likely answer. > > > > I have Hunt's book on Town of Clermont, & it says that Virgil GARDNER > > lived in a house built by Thomas GARDNER and that the house was a > > milestone, 111 miles from New York! No dates. I have Henry Jones' two > > volumes on Palatine families, Arthur Kelly's Settlers & Residents series > > on Clermont & Germantown and Chuck Rivenburgh's book on descendants of > > the Reiffenberg Family...and still am missing the "GARDNER connection". > > Before the 'Net, I'd thought it to be an English name...but most of my > > paternal surnames are German or Dutch. > > > > Forgive me for rambling a bit, but it appears this group is highly > > active & informed!! In the one & a half years I've been online, I have > > come across two distant cousins with GARDNER ties, but nothing beyond > > Thomas. The LDS & Ancestry.com sites have come up zeros. I'd appreciate > > even one little clue. IF..I have anything to share, I will! Thanks. > > > > Lynn Gardner Miller > > > > Marilyn R Otterson wrote: > > > > > > Just want to mention that not all of Thomas "the Planter" Gardner's > > > descendents went to the south in the Revolution. Some went to Maine, > > > mine in particular. > > > > > > Marilyn in NH > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >