-------Original Message------- From: Marilynn Masten <GardnerRus@carolina.rr.com> Sent: 01/20/03 12:53 PM To: GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GARDNER] DNA testing & New England Gardners > Well the connection is close if you consider 1,000 years close. But in DNAlanguage, I guess that's close. > > We NC Gardners had to come from somewhere unless we popped > out of the ground like the Picts did when Ireland was first > invaded, giving a basis to the tale of the Leprechaun. > > Marilynn Hi, Marilynn: There seems to be some confusion here. The Picts were in Scotland, as early as the time of the Romans and Hadrian's Wall. The Irish (called "Scots", Latin "Scotti") invaded Scotland, I think (don't quote me!) about 800 or 900 AD. The Picts and the Scots were united under Kenneth McAlpin about the turn of the millenium (ditto don't quote me on the details). My GARDNER ancestors arrived in New England from Scotland in 1773, settling in Ryegate, Vermont. The county in which they put down their new roots is named Caledonia (the old name for Scotland) from all the Scots in Ryegate, Barnet, and the nearby towns in Vermont. So here is yet *another* "New England GARDNER line". Darrell Darrell A. Martin working from web-based Earthlink mail darrellm@sprynet.com

Well the connection is close if you consider 1,000 years close. But in DNA language, I guess that's close. We NC Gardners had to come from somewhere unless we popped out of the ground like the Picts did when Ireland was first invaded, giving a basis to the tale of the Leprechaun. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Gardner" <charleshgardner@charter.net> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] DNA testing & New England Gardners > Joe, thanks for your response to Marylyn. I've wondered what the connection > is between the NC Gardners and our folk in New England. Mayble something > will be unfolded here. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph H. Gardner" <jgardner@iglou.com> > To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [GARDNER] DNA testing & New England Gardners > > > > Marilynn: > > > > I'm interested in your statement saying you've "found a close connection > to > > a Gardner of the New England Gardners." I'm curious: which New England > > Gardners? There're several Gardner lines that originate in New England in > > the 1600's. The three major ones are: > > > > The Lion Gardner line (The Gardner's Island line). > > The line of Thomas the Planter, which if I remember correctly includes > > both the Gardners of Gardner, ME, and the Nantucket Quaker Gardners. (Some > > of the later migrated to the Quaker settlements in NC.) > > The line of George of London, who settled in Massachusetts Bay Colony > > before following Anne Hutchinson to Rhode Island. He's said to have the > > largerst number of descendants of any of the immigrant Gardners, but I > don't > > know if there's any hard evidence for this. > > > > Yours, > > Joseph Gardner > > > > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > > Rootsweb's GARDNER surname Mailing List > > Acceptable Use Policy at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > An intolerance for irrelevancies and an inability to filter out > unneeded information are not positive traits in genealogists. > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

District Court Records: York County, Nebraska Intention to Naturalize 1870 - 1929 Compiled from records at the Nebraska State Historical Society GARDNER, Charles W. Volume-Page: 1-142 Application Date: 10 Mar 1890 Nationality: Canada Age at time of application: 26 GARDNER, R. H. Fortescew Volume-Page: 1-118 Application Date: 03 Apr 1888 Nationality: Canada Age at time of application: 29 http://www.rootsweb.com/~neyork/naturalizations/g/natGARDNER.html

FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH Marriages 1760 - 1803: Philadelphia, PA Nov. 15, 1786, Gardner, Ann, and Joshua Dawson. Aug. 20, 1794, Gardner, Ann, dauht of Arch Gardner, and John Ross. March 10, 1796, Gardner, Dorcas, and Robert Ellis. Sept. 22, 1764, Gardner, Eleanor, and James Hunter. July 30, 1789, Gardner, Elizabeth, and Benjamin Betterton. June 27, 1769, Gardner, Hannah, and Francis Trimble. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/church/1stpresby02.txt?sourceid=00224688805390682569

FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH Marriages 1702-1745: Philadelphia, PA http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/church/1stpresby01.txt?sourceid=00224688807362341446 1, 6, 1729, Gardner, Hannah, and Charles Quinnan. 5, 15, 1733, Gardner, John, and Mary Stokes. 11, 9, 1743, Gardner, Stephen, and Rebekah Black.

Is there just ONE of the descendants of Jasper Gardner willing to get his DNA tested so we can rule in or rule out that particular family? Marilynn

De Witt County, Illinois Index to Death Records 1878 - 1917 Gardner, Clara Jane 30 Apr. 1911 Gardner, Daniel Sweeney 21 Mar. 1904 Gardner, Eliza E. May 28, 1915 Gardner, Elizabeth 18 Mar. 1908 Gardner, John Davis 28 Sep. 1903 Gardner, John W. 24 Aug. 1914 Gardner, Lemuel Mar. 1879 Gardner, Sorepta May 28, 1910 Gardner, Wm. May 9, 1911 http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildewitt/deathrecords/deathrecordindex.htm?sourceid=00224688807349731044

Pennsylvania 1910 Census Miracode Index Elijah Gardner State: PA Enumeration District: 0005 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0339 Age: 43 Color: W County: Allegheny, Avalon Relation: Head of Household Other Residents in Household: Relation, Name, Age, Birth Place Wife, Elizabeth, 35, Pennsylvania Daughter, Pearl H, 18, Pennsylvania Son, Elijah R, 16, Pennsylvania Son, William P, 14, Pennsylvania Daughter, Amy H, 05, Pennsylvania Brother-in-law, Richard Clouse, 45, Pennsylvania Niece, Elizabeth F, Clouse, 11, Pennsylvania Niece, Ida, 09, Pennsylvania Niece, Bertha, 05, Pennsylvania [[[Miracode is a slightly modified version of the Soundex indexing format. Miracode and Soundex are indexes based on the pronunciation of a name, rather than the name's spelling. Surnames are coded and then arranged numerically by their codes. Miracode was employed only in 1910 and for the following states: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and West Virginia. ]]] I checked the actual census image. The handwriting was pretty readable. Some of the best info is not in the index material above. Avalon Borough is in Kilbuck Township in Allegheny County. The street they are on is Temple Avenue, no house number. They were at Dwelling #303, Family #339, City Ward 3, Enumeration District No. 5, . Date was 15 April 1910. The page number handwritten by the enumerator was 14; the stamped number on the page was 183A. Number of years of present marriage for Elijah and Elizabeth is 19. Number born and number now living of children born to Elizabeth was 4. Birthplace of Elijah's father is New York; his mother, Pennsylvania. Birthplace of Elizabeth's father is Ger-German; mother, Ger-German. He was a Carpenter; General nature of industry was Houses. For whether an employer, employee, or working on own account, the entry is "W" for Elijah. He was not out of work on April 15, 1910, and had "0" weeks out of work during 1909. Both Elijah and Elizabeth were able to read and write. They owned their home; it was mortgaged, and it was a house. For their son, Elijah R., he was single. He was a Framer, General nature of industry was Department Store. For whether an employer, employee, or working on own account, the entry is "W". He was not out of work on April 15, 1910, and had "0" weeks out of work during 1909. He was able to read and write and attended school since September 1, 1909. For the brother-in-law, Richard Clouse. He was widowed. He was born in Pennsylvania. His father's birthplace was Ger-German; mother's, Ger-German. He was a Laborer, General nature of industry was Newspaper. For whether an employer, employee, or working on own account, the entry is "W". He was not out of work on April 15, 1910, and had "0" weeks out of work during 1909. He was able to read and write. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately, Ancestry.com does NOT have the 1900 index online yet. I finally deciphered that Avalon Borough was Enumeration District 337 under "Other Townships" in Allegheny Co. It was 43 pages long. I quickly looked through there and did not find any GARDNERs (even with spelling variations). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Doty GenBrickWalls@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Apple" <pete@intcomm.net> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: [GARDNER] Elijah GARDNER > Does anyone have access to 1900 or 1910 Census Index for Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) PA? I am looking for a Reference to Elijah R Gardner. > Also a reference to Margaret C. Boyle. Thanks for any help. My library does not carry those Census Records. Pete Apple

Elijah Gardner married Elizabeth (Clouse?) in 1891 or 1892 - Probably in Alleghney County. I would like to find a record of that marriage to verify her last name. Does anyone have access to those records for the county? Thanks for your help. Pete Apple

Does anyone have access to 1900 or 1910 Census Index for Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) PA? I am looking for a Reference to Elijah R Gardner. Also a reference to Margaret C. Boyle. Thanks for any help. My library does not carry those Census Records. Pete Apple

Maybe this is why someone recently said Jasper Gardner's name is not on the ship register he is said to have arrived on. Is there a Gaspar Guerurer on that ship's list? Larealia Camp ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: EPYOQKEDOTWFA Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:49 AM To: GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GARDNER] Immigrant Gardner ancestor Barbara, That's a great site. I found Gaspar Guerurer.with wife and 3 infants. Is that the one you meant? Family history says our Gardners/Gardiners were from a small country near France. Do you have any more information on this family? Thanks Molly Gardner ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== Until every victim's family is comforted Until every terrorist is brought to justice We will remember 9-11 -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Marriages from the Longbenton Registers (1653-1799) Northumberland, England 9 Mar 1788 Samuel Gardner = Sarah Brown 4 Jun 1797 Cuthbert Armstrong = Sarah Gardner

Archives of Maryland Online http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/html/index.html Do search on surname Gardner for many hits.

I was once told the original immigrant was a Jasper Gardner, born about 1675 in Scotland or France. Also, that he came to America in 1700 with an unknown wife, 3 children and a group of Huguenots aboard the French ship "The Peter and Anthony" landing 20 Sept 1700 along the James River in VA. Further, that he had a son Jean Gardner born 1696 who married Mary Pryor. I sought to verify this for myself, since the source was only an email from someone without additional documentation. At the Olive Tree Genealogy site I found a list of Huguenot ships including the Peter and Anthony. Look for yourself: http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/hugship02.shtml. Then tell me which one is Jasper Gardner. Then find where he changed his name and was living with a son, Jean, etc. I've been to the James River, and it would be nice to have an ancestor who landed in such a lovely place. But, I suggest it is better to be suspicious until better evidence is found. Barbara

Barbara, That's a great site. I found Gaspar Guerurer.with wife and 3 infants. Is that the one you meant? Family history says our Gardners/Gardiners were from a small country near France. Do you have any more information on this family? Thanks Molly Gardner

EXECUTIONS IN AMERICA http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution.htm There are Gardner executions contained in these lists.

I have been watching this list for over a year, hoping to see something to link my fathers to his mysterious past. My father actually worked in the Government, so I figured his background check must have revealed nothing too terrible. Looking for information on: David Gardner b: abt 1848 (possibly Ohio) d: 1900 Duluth, MN he married Mary Jane Avery daughter of Christopher Jenkins Avery and Polly Fairchild. They had 2 children: Elmer Avery b: abt 1883 and Grace Emeline b: 1885 (both born in New York). OK, because of the 1920 and 1930 Census availability, I have knocked down an entire brick wall only to find an even thicker brick wall. This is my revelation: My Grandfather Elmer Avery Gardner (born Abt 1883 in New York, died 9/7/1935 in Minneapolis, Minnesota) Elmer worked for the Post Office in Minneapolis. He married Evelyn Montgomery (from Brewster, Minnesota) between 1907 and 1910. They had 3 boys in Minnesota (LeRoy Frances - my father, born 6/24/1910, Lloyd E. - born Abt. 1912 and David - born about 1914). Soon after David's birth, Evelyn disappeared (or ran away), leaving the kids with Elmer, who put them in an orphanage until he could figure a way to provide for them. I believe I find a match in the 1920 Census for Montana, a record of an Elizabeth Montgomery (widow) without a job, living independently. My logic is that she was overwhelmed with the obligations of children and chose to walk out. The Railroad industry would have provided an excellent opportunity to provide distance from what she was trying to flee. At the time, the railroad would have taken her to Billings (and even further, could she afford it). A story I heard from my mother, was that my father traced and tracked her to St. Louis, Missouri. When he got there, the proprietor of the boarding house (he tracked her to) told him to go home and never look back. That may be the reason he would never talk about his heritage. The importance here, is that Elmer had a sister named Grace, which (as of the 1801 Census) I now find living with her uncle George Washington Avery (in Minneapolis, Minnesota) in 1900 (the same year that David (their father) had died). I met Grace as a child, but yet to know the significance of this family as it pertains to me. Any information would be gratefully appreciated............ Thanking you in advance, Beth (Gardner) Hunter -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A friend will joyfully sing with you when you are on the mountain top and silently hold your hand and walk beside you through the valley. I love you friend, Beth

1901 Census Alberta District No. 202 http://www.agsedm.edmonton.ab.ca/1901_census_202_online.html Last Name, First Name, Age, Place GARDENER Samuel 22 LethbS1 GARDENER William 20 LethbS1 GARDINER AlbertH 8 HorsHls GARDINER Captin 45 NoseCrk GARDINER ClarenceM 4 HorsHls GARDINER Clement 15 SpngBnk GARDINER Colin 13 MacLeo2 GARDINER David 10 GrassLk GARDINER DavidA 31 HorsHls GARDINER Edith 14 SpngBnk GARDINER Edward 60 InisflE GARDINER EdwardM 16 SpngBnk GARDINER Elizabeth 44 GrassLk GARDINER Eva 17 MacLeo2 GARDINER Gordon 2 MacLeo2 GARDINER HellenA 8 MacLeo2 GARDINER IdrisJ 14 GrassLk GARDINER Jane 43 MacLeo2 GARDINER Jeanette 12 GrassLk GARDINER MargaretH 28 HorsHls GARDINER Margret 39 SpngBnk GARDINER Maria 16 GrassLk GARDINER Meepham 48 SpngBnk GARDINER Minnie 13 SpngBnk GARDINER RobtE 5 MacLeo2 GARDINER Ruby 10 SpngBnk GARDINER Samuel 46 GrassLk GARDINER Thomas 7 GrassLk GARDINER William 48 MacLeo2 GARDINER WmHR 19 MacLeo2 GARDINIR Annie 55 InisflE GARDINIR Earnest 24 InisflE GARDINIR Leon 21 InisflE GARDINIR LillaR 18 InisflE GARDNER Adeline 14 StAlbrt GARDNER Archie 19 StAlbrt GARDNER Betsie 18 StAlbrt GARDNER Claud 30 Olsen GARDNER Ennis 17 StAlbrt GARDNER Flora 42 LacLaBi GARDNER Jane 22 StAlbrt GARDNER Marguerite 47 StAlbrt GARDNER William 35 StAlbrt

County Durham Burial Index 1813-1837 England Gardener, Ann of Chowdon aged 11 - 4 Dec 1830 - Lamesley Gardener, John of Windy Nook aged 11m - 4 Dec 1825 - Heworth Gardener, Matthew of Ouston aged 29 - 27 Jul 1832 - Chester-le-Street Gardener, William of Thrift St aged 18 - 31 Mar 1824 - South Shields St Hilda Gardiner, Elizabeth of Ireshopeburn aged 29 - 18 Oct 1837 - St John's Chapel Gardiner, Mable of Bladon aged 29 - 3 Jul 1823 - Ryton Gardiner, Thomas of Low Downs aged 26 - 16 Mar 1837 - Hetton-le-Hole Gardner, Anthony of Bolly Hope aged 10d - 28 Dec 1826 - Stanhope Gardner, Isabella of Bladon aged 1y 6m - 13 Nov 1830 - Ryton Gardner, John of Bishoply aged 74 - 23 Aug 1836 - Stanhope Gardner, Michael of Winlaton aged 48 - 30 Aug 1832 - Winlaton Gardner, William of Frosterley aged infant - 20 Dec 1817 - Stanhope http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/Transcriptions/DUR/BDUR.html

Southern interior of the Province of British Columbia, Canada Census Records. Currently online : - 1881 Canada Census, Yale District, BC - 1891 Canada Census, Yale District, BC - 1877 Indian Reserve Commission Census (IRC), southern interior of BC - 1877 Okanagan (Native) Census taken by missionaries, the Oblates of Mary Immaculate (OMI) Gardner William Henry Gardner Edith Henriette Gardner Emily Jane Gardner Nicholas Sharpe http://royal.okanagan.bc.ca/census/index.html Do search on surname Gardner for results.