Hi, I have Gardners in Chariton Co., Mo. they md into the Bakers who went to Linn Co. Mo. Any connection? Mine are Samuel and Sarah Jane (Willingham) Gardner. Sam was b. VA ca 1787 and Sarah NC 1794. They were md in Warrick Co., Ind. and had Elizabeth and James in Ind. moved to Chariton Co., Mo by 1830 census the other children were Hutchins, Samuel B. (his daughter md the Baker) and Sarah Jane. Have been working on this line a long time. Will share any info I have. I decend from Hutchins who md Rebecca Freeman. I have contact with a cousin who decends from Samuel B and his 1st wife Sarah Jane Payne on through the Baker line also. She will share also, won't you Suzy? See you in Salt Lake. Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cintrfire810@cs.com> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: Re: From the list admin re: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT > I have Gardner's in Linn County, Missouri. > > Vicki > In the river brakes of central Missouri > > Out going scanned by Norton Anti-Virus > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > I like newbies. Newbies are my friends. A newbie I haven't met yet > has the key to my elusive ancestor. Please don't insult or patronize > my friends on this list. -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi everyone :) I've been reading the posts and since the topic of KY has come up, now seems to be a good time to send a post ;) besides, the babies are occupied too :) I'm searching for information on the Gardner family in Garrard Co., KY. There is a sad story involved but few specific dates. My g grandparents were Mariah Underwood b. 1873 d. 1947 and William Henry Rigney b. 1876 d. 1963, they lived in Moreland, Lincoln Co., KY. The parents of Mariah Underwood were Matilda Catherine Wilmot b. abt 1847 d. 1915 and Luther B. Underwood b. abt 1845 d. 1924, in 1880, they also lived in Lincoln Co., KY. The parents of M. Catherine were James R. Wilmot b. abt 1823 d. Jan 18, 1882 and Elizabeth Gardner b.? d. Jan 18, 1882. According to my records their first child was Matilda Catherine born in 1847. The deaths of James R. Wilmot and Elizabeth Gardner Wilmot involved a sad story, it was in the newspapers as far as New York. He became depressed killed his mother, wife, two daughters then himself. I believe at the time they lived in Garrard Co., KY. I have a letter written to my g, grandmother, Mariah, from Mrs. Sallie Shelton, postmarked New Florence, MO, dated July 28, 1928. In the letter Sallie Shelton talks about how her husband, Charley (I think), had just recently died, she tells her cousin how he got up from the table and went outside to do some work and they found him in the snow. She says that she has lost her mother, father, sisters and brothers and 3 boys, but then she also talks about how she has 9 children to live for and a daughter Gertrude who is the only unmarried daughter. She also talks about a Gardner Reunion in MO and how it will be at Lizzie Edwards house. The letter is online on my website, www.maxpages.com/generations. This is all I know. Hopefully someone will recognize these names. Thanks for your time:) Rena www.maxpages.com/generations http://OurVisualGenealogy.homestead.com/index.html http://StatesOfHeritage.homestead.com/index.html http://PostcardGenealogy.homestead.com/index.html http://OurPictureGenealogy.homestead.com/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/i/g/Renamarie-Voron/ @>-^-----

Since I hear of so many Barron Co., KY , Gardners, I think you people should join together and form your own group and then let us in on the results. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Stanifer" <cheeksmck@hotmail.com> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: Re: From the list admin re: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT > Peny who are your Mo Gardners? I have some Gardners in Greene Co MO. Before > that they were in Barren Co KY. > Kim Stanifer > > > >From: "Penny Gardner" <pennyg1@inreach.com> > >Reply-To: GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com > >To: GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: From the list admin re: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT > >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:58:15 -0800 > > > >Darrell, I am sorry I mentioned the price. I thought it might let people > >know that it is not as expensive as I thought it was. However, I can see > >where it might be taken as advertising. > > I am excited about the DNA testing as well. We hit a brick wall with > >our > >Gardners, (spelled Gardiner, at that time) in 1860 Missouri. Census > >records > >say they came from KY before that, but we have been unable to connect with > >any of the numerous families who came from there. Hopefully, this will > >shed > >more light on the different lines. > >Penny Gardner > > > > > > > >==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > >The members ARE the list. > >What do you have to contribute? > >What do you want to know? -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > Kimberly Berkshire > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > An intolerance for irrelevancies and an inability to filter out > unneeded information are not positive traits in genealogists. > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Greetings: Please do not "reply" to a message "From the list admin" -- at least not unless you change the subject line. All e-mail clients allow you to change the subject; if yours does not, it is broken. Kindly get a different one. If your message is not "From the list admin" then your subject line should not contain those words (even if preceded by "Re"). I need all list subscribers to know that if they see "From the list admin" anywhere in the subject line, that it is from me and they need to read it. Comments about admin posts should come to me *privately*. My address is at the bottom of every list message. Thank you for your cooperation. Darrell RootsWeb List Admin - 5 VT and 1 MA location lists Darrell A. Martin - 18 surnames lists, 1 Scottish clan list darrellm@sprynet.com - 1 software list

I wrote my cousin about the DNA test, and he told me that he was going to. Billie

That's what I mean. It's sure a lot easier to follow the men. I really wish we COULD connect to some Kentucky Gardners! Any of them! In the 1860 Vernon County, MO census, we have Charles Justus Gardiner and wife Esther Taylor. They both died in 1880 a few months apart. According to that census, he was born somewhere in Kentucky about 1830. I have seen census records with some of the same names that are in our family, but have never been able to find any paper connection. Some of our family names were William, Charles, Morris, Ira, Sanford, Nancy, Mary, and Paulina. One of these days, maybe. Penny

Peny who are your Mo Gardners? I have some Gardners in Greene Co MO. Before that they were in Barren Co KY. Kim Stanifer >From: "Penny Gardner" <pennyg1@inreach.com> >Reply-To: GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com >To: GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: From the list admin re: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:58:15 -0800 > >Darrell, I am sorry I mentioned the price. I thought it might let people >know that it is not as expensive as I thought it was. However, I can see >where it might be taken as advertising. > I am excited about the DNA testing as well. We hit a brick wall with >our >Gardners, (spelled Gardiner, at that time) in 1860 Missouri. Census >records >say they came from KY before that, but we have been unable to connect with >any of the numerous families who came from there. Hopefully, this will >shed >more light on the different lines. >Penny Gardner > > > >==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== >The members ARE the list. >What do you have to contribute? >What do you want to know? -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Kimberly Berkshire _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Good for you, Billie. Us females have to encourage our male relatives. Too bad the "y" chromosome doesn't descend through women, huh? Penny

http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/provost/ Missouri's Union Provost Marshal Papers: 1861-1866 Do search on Gardner for results.

BIBB COUNTY, AL MARRIAGES 1820 - 1862 GARDNER, Angaline FERRINGTON, Alexander Dec 27 1836 GARDNER, Elizabeth NIX, William Dec 20 1848 GARDNER, Elizabeth WOOD, Solomon Dec 09 1820 GARDNER, Jackson BOWLING, Margrett Dec 19 1837 GARDNER, James TUCKER, Matildy Jul 06 1830 GARDNER, James C HUNT, Harriett Feb 07 1859 GARDNER, L Miss WILSON, W L Oct 18 1859 GARDNER, Lewis BOOTH, Sarah J Oct 01 1845 GARDNER, Margaret ATCHERSON, Bennet M Jan 07 1858 GARDNER, Mary LAWRENCE, John Nov 11 1826 GARDNER, Rebecca SMITHERMAN, Robert Nov 28 1848 GARDNER, Rebecca TUCKER, William Sep 26 1832 GARDNER, Sarah J LOGAN, D C Dec 31 1856 GARDNER, W C CARLETON, Corrina M Aug 29 1857

Billie...That's great! Where are your Gardner's from? Molly

My husband (also a Gardner) DOES get it, but can't get it from his head into mine. I rely on Bennett. He'll tell me anything, anytime. He's one of a kind. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny Gardner" <pennyg1@inreach.com> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT > Marilynn, I wish I could explain about the markers and how to match them. > I'm like you, by the time I think I grasp it, it slips away again. > Maybe there is someone on the list who understands genetics, and could > analyze the markers. I have seen several really good DNA projects where > someone on the list can decipher the tests, and we must have someone that > smart on OUR list. After all, we're Gardners, aren't we? Penny > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > There is a reasonable expectation that messages on this list will > have some connection with the GARDNER family (or variant spellings). > What that means is up to you. -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

We've got about 20 Gardnr men involved. A good start. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Gardner" <mollyg@mtrose.net> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT > I sure hope more Gardner/Gardiner men do this! My husband just sent his > test in and we can't wait to see the results. Is anyone else on this list > going to take the test? > Molly > > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > It is more important to BE a good ancestor than to FIND one. > Fortunately, one does not usually have to choose between the two. > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Greetings, all: The use of DNA for genealogical purposes is an exciting development. It is also, for some, a business. List members are reminded that discussions of specifics should not take on the tone of promotion or advertising. Specifically, pricing information should be discussed *OFF* list, or links may be provided where such information is available. I want to make it completely clear that any ongoing "project" regarding DNA as it relates to persons of the GARDNER surname, or descendants of same, is an ON TOPIC subject for this list. I heartily welcome and encourage discussions about anything like that. I do not regard this as a major problem. Nobody is in trouble, and I haven't made any notes about who needs to be watched, either. Just keep it related to the GARDNER clan, and keep "filthy lucre" off the list. Thanks! Darrell RootsWeb List Admin - 5 VT and 1 MA location lists Darrell A. Martin - 18 surnames lists, 1 Scottish clan list darrellm@sprynet.com - 1 software list

I tell you, Penny, someday this will be the answer to the whole thing. Not in my lifetime, but sometime. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny Gardner" <pennyg1@inreach.com> To: <GARDNER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: [GARDNER] GARDNER DNA PROJECT > Would you like to find your cousins and ancestors through the comparison of Y chromosomes? > Many of you already have compiled information about our relatives and ancestors from family members, and from sources available online, in published genealogy books, and from public records. > Another source of information is carried in the body of every male Gardner, Gardiner, Gardener, etc;- our Y chromosomes. When one man's Y chromosome matches another's, they know they are cousins descending from a common ancestor. > To find out about our Y chromosomes, we have begun the Gardner DNA Project. We take cells painlessly from the lining of our mouths, put them in little vials, and send them to a laboratory where they assign numbers to our > "DNA markers." When all 12 of our markers match another participant's markers, we know that we descend from the same ancestor. > Every father passes on his Y chromosome to his sons. > Our surnames usually pass that way also. Our Gardener surname and our Y chromosomes act as if they are linked since they both usually pass from father to son. > Analysis of our Y chromosomes can tell us who we are related to. It can point out cousins we never knew we had. > It can tell us when we share an ancestor even though we were not previously aware of it. > The Gardner ancestor we share may have lived fairly recently, maybe in the past 300 or 400 years, or he may have lived centuries ago. > If you are involved in a surname project, the cost is only $101, instead of $149. > Only males with the surname Gardener, Gardiner, Gardner, Garner, (or various spellings) who descend from a father with the same surname can take the > test, but women can encourage their male relatives(brothers, fathers, cousins)to take the test, and therefore will find out their own lineage. > For more information about the project, go to the Family Tree DNA site or > the Gardner DNA site, > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=B69161 > http://www.usroots.com/~gardners/index.html > > > Penny Gardner pennyg1@inreach.com > > > ==== GARDNER Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb's GARDNER surname Mailing List > Acceptable Use Policy at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > -- List admin. darrellm@sprynet.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Darrell, I am sorry I mentioned the price. I thought it might let people know that it is not as expensive as I thought it was. However, I can see where it might be taken as advertising. I am excited about the DNA testing as well. We hit a brick wall with our Gardners, (spelled Gardiner, at that time) in 1860 Missouri. Census records say they came from KY before that, but we have been unable to connect with any of the numerous families who came from there. Hopefully, this will shed more light on the different lines. Penny Gardner

Marilynn, I wish I could explain about the markers and how to match them. I'm like you, by the time I think I grasp it, it slips away again. Maybe there is someone on the list who understands genetics, and could analyze the markers. I have seen several really good DNA projects where someone on the list can decipher the tests, and we must have someone that smart on OUR list. After all, we're Gardners, aren't we? Penny

I sure hope more Gardner/Gardiner men do this! My husband just sent his test in and we can't wait to see the results. Is anyone else on this list going to take the test? Molly

Would you like to find your cousins and ancestors through the comparison of Y chromosomes? Many of you already have compiled information about our relatives and ancestors from family members, and from sources available online, in published genealogy books, and from public records. Another source of information is carried in the body of every male Gardner, Gardiner, Gardener, etc;- our Y chromosomes. When one man's Y chromosome matches another's, they know they are cousins descending from a common ancestor. To find out about our Y chromosomes, we have begun the Gardner DNA Project. We take cells painlessly from the lining of our mouths, put them in little vials, and send them to a laboratory where they assign numbers to our "DNA markers." When all 12 of our markers match another participant's markers, we know that we descend from the same ancestor. Every father passes on his Y chromosome to his sons. Our surnames usually pass that way also. Our Gardener surname and our Y chromosomes act as if they are linked since they both usually pass from father to son. Analysis of our Y chromosomes can tell us who we are related to. It can point out cousins we never knew we had. It can tell us when we share an ancestor even though we were not previously aware of it. The Gardner ancestor we share may have lived fairly recently, maybe in the past 300 or 400 years, or he may have lived centuries ago. If you are involved in a surname project, the cost is only $101, instead of $149. Only males with the surname Gardener, Gardiner, Gardner, Garner, (or various spellings) who descend from a father with the same surname can take the test, but women can encourage their male relatives(brothers, fathers, cousins)to take the test, and therefore will find out their own lineage. For more information about the project, go to the Family Tree DNA site or the Gardner DNA site, http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=B69161 http://www.usroots.com/~gardners/index.html Penny Gardner pennyg1@inreach.com

Dear Friends: I checked out the information sent you,and It's true: John E.Gardner was born in Michigan on 28 Mar 1882 and died Feb 1971 in California(93301 (Bakersfield, Kern, CA)).His SSN is: 567-18-7278 He was married with Lulu B.Gardner(her maiden's name was Graham).She was born in Michigan on 18 Dec 1886 and died 22 Feb 1967 in Kern California.Her Mother's Maiden Name was BALDWIN . Could you help me look up something else? Thanks in advance Jim _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/