Marilynn, I like the stories of the life choices of our ancestors, leading us to where we are today. Can you tell us when and why yours migrated to NC and where they came from and why? Were they Quakers in the 1700s? I wonder what signs are left in NC of the migration of Quakers from Nantucket to NC. What is the oldest headstone that you have seen of Gardner in NC? When is your William? Hey, Marilynn, you volunteered to take ALL of the NC Gardners! (Not just William! .... hee hee) Take em all... and put em all in a big pot ... and stir! Ha! Muriah _____ Marilynn Masten wrote: > Muriah asks the line of migration of my Gardner family. Showed up here in > the 1770s and never left. Oh, some leaked over into SC. Had two great-grands > and a great-great in the War between the States. I have so many cousins > here, I can't count them. > > Others ask about limiting this to Southern Gardners. I am opening a big > enough can of worms as it is. WE'll get to the others later. > > Now, I suggest we each choose a given name and collect every southern > Gardner we are sent with that given name and see if we can untangle said can > of worms. I will take "William" as he is my first known ancestor in the > family. Somebody offered to take John. Someone else take James, Lewis, > Jeremiah, Thomas, etc. > > I will collect all of the William Gardners went to me who first show up in > Va. and all points southof min. A great-great uncle, DAvid, went to Miss. > That much I know. I will then try to put them into some kind of order > because often I hear from someone looking for a certain Gardner who is not > one of mine and I haven't saved other messages that would have provided > connections. > > Marilynn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "muriah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:40 PM > Subject: [GARDNER] NC GARDNER - Generations Removed > > > Marilynn, > > I am eager to hear descendent of NC Gardners to indicate their line of > > migration since and whether your own Gardner family line stayed through > > the Civil War to date. > > Muriah > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

If anyone's interested, the ages for England throughout the 19th Century were 14 for the man, and 12 for the woman. Please bear in mind though that Scotland may have had different rules. Katherine Harding ----- Original Message ----- From: John D Stone <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: [GARDNER] Marriage ages circa 1884 > - ---------------------------------------------------- > This is, I suppose, not strictly on topic, but what the heck. In my spare > time from genealogy and (heaven forefend) work, I collect silversmith and > jeweler's trade cards. One recently found, for a wedding jewelry maker in > Sacramento CA, dated 1884, included the following list: > > Marriage Ages: > > In Austria -- 14 years for both sexes > In Spain -- the man at 14, the woman at 12 > In Russia -- the man at 18, the woman at 16 > In Greece -- the man at 14, the woman at 12 > In France -- the man at 18, the woman at 15 > In Saxony -- the man at 18, the woman at 16 > In Belgium -- the man at 18, the woman at 15 > In Germany -- the man at 18, the woman at 14 > In Switzerland -- The man at 14, the woman at 12 > In Hungary: > Catholics -- the man at 14, the woman at 12; > Protestants -- the man at 18, the woman at 12. > > Worth keeping in mind when setting up potential problem searches and trying > to make sense of old records. > > Wm Voss > [email protected] > - ---------------------------------------------------- > > ______________________________

Now that is funny!!! LOL Love it Marilynn! Carol From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:04:02 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fw: [GARDNER] GARDNER/S Resent-From: [email protected] Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:04:10 -0600 No, at my age, I don't often get asked for dates. Besides, my husband might object. Marilynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn R Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [GARDNER] GARDNER/S Do you have any dates? ________________________________________________________________

I can only add that my GARDNER was in Dutchess CO NY before settling in SW Virginia! James GARDNER 1758, Dutchess Co NY - 1849, Carroll Co VA. > I was wondering after watching all this about the Gardners coming > from the South, that some of the Gardners did originate from the > North, Gardners were from NY, PA, RI, and Vt, the Gardners I am > researching were from NY and PA. Does anyone have any > information on the Gardners from the North? > > Thank you, > Joan > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp -- My website! http://dkwood.homestead.com/1.html

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I have info. regarding Gardners from Allagash, ME.....tracing to Campebellton New Brunswick, anyone have an info? Thanks Stephanie Gardner ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [GARDNER] GARDNER/S > I was wondering after watching all this about the Gardners coming from the > South, that some of the Gardners did originate from the North, Gardners were > from NY, PA, RI, and Vt, the Gardners I am researching were from NY and PA. > Does anyone have any information on the Gardners from the North? > > Thank you, > Joan > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I posted an inquiry to my line of Gardners some time back, but with all the correspondence going back and forth, I would like to ask again. My father's name is Marden Orth Gardner, Jr. (m. Sylvia High Gardner); My grandfather was Marden Orth Gardner, Sr. (m. Eva Cash); My greatgrandfather was William Henry Gardner (m. Francis N. Gardner) and was the Mayor of Waynesboro, Virginia September 1, 1908 - August 31, 1912 (when Waynesboro was known as Basic); and Mayor of Waynesboro, Virginia September 1, 1928 - September 8, 1930 and April 4, 1932 - September 1, 1934 (after the merger of Basic and Waynesboro). He served as President of Fishburne Military School from 1921 - 1941. He owned two extract mills, the Belmont Hotel, Banks, Cleaners, Hardware Store, Drug Store and Gardner Mansion - All in Waynesboro, Virginia. He had three sons: Marden Orth Gardner, Sr., Melton Gardner, and Lee Gardner. This is all we know on my father's side of the family. He has often wondered about his Gardner line and I would like to find out something for him in his lifetime (he is now in his sixties). Any information would be greatly appreciated!!! Allison Gardner Stoneham Legal Secretary Durrette, Irvin & Bradshaw, PLC 600 East Main Street Twentieth Floor Richmond, Virginia 23219 Telephone: (804) 775-6900 Facsimile: (804) 775-6911 This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Durrette, Irvin & Bradshaw that may be privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. Such information is intended to be for the named addressee only. If you are not the named addressee, then any disclosure, copying, publication, distribution or other use of the contents of this electronic message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, then please notify us immediately and destroy the original message, any attachments, and all copies. Thank you.

Hi All Glad to see this list so busy. I am still looking for Edwin Gardner b Marblehead Ma imp 1795 Marrried Ruth Bowden died 1836 Marblehead Ma. Children Edward Hazzard 1816, Mary Abigail b 1820, Ruth Ann b 1820, Richard S b imp 1826 Infant 1829. Anyone working on Massachusetts Gardners? My husband's line goes down from Richard. Carole Gardner

Dear Muriah: Those of us with brick walls are always looking at each family, hoping to learn that it is "ours"... [email protected] wrote...""could have been my Joseph. Joseph is my brick wall. """ Debbie > This is puzzling. > If you do not know who either of the parents are of your > ancestor, Joseph, how do you know who his ancestors are? > (In this case, his immigrant ancestor in particular, of a century > and a half earlier) > > [email protected] wrote: > >> During there research has any body run into a JOSEPH GARDNER b- >> March 17, 1774. MA. (probably Boston). Was a seagoing man, had >> his own ship. Was a descendant of Thomas Gardner of Cape Ann who >> arrived abord the Zouch Phenix in 1624. Joseph was kin to a >> General Putnam. I have found a Joseph Gardner in the vital >> records in Salem, MA. for a christening dated 1 May 1774 and >> the mother name was Abigail, no father's name, could have been >> my Joseph. Joseph is my brick wall. All help will be >> appreciated. >> >> ============================== >> Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >> Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >> http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com -- My website! http://dkwood.homestead.com/1.html

I know almost nothing about the Gardners I am looking for I just discovered I have them two months ago. They are related to my Henderson family from North Carolina/Virginia but here goes: As they appear on the Tunica County Mississippi census 1900: Fannie (Frances)Leigh (nee Henderson) Gardner born Charlotte, NC abt 1853 (Fannie's parents were: Malinda nee Wimbish Henderson, b. Nov. 1829, Virginia, died Tunica, October 5, 1905, buried Oakwood cemetery. Father: Dr. Alexander Henderson, North Carolina. Son of Col. Pleasant Henderson) Fannies husband's first name "unknown" Gardner. He appears to be from Tennessee. Children: Minnie (or Marie) Gardner, born 5/1873, Arkansas, parents are from Tn and NC. She married a G.W. Roycroft, in 1902, Tunica County, Ms. Children: Irma, b. 1903, Leslie (m) born ?, and Fannie L.H. born 1909 all in Mississippi. Albert Gardner, born 3/1875, Arkansas same as above William W. Gardner, born 5/1877, Arkansas Henry H. Gardner, born 11/1880, Kentucky, Fannie Leigh Henderson Gardner must have remarried in Kentucky to a man named Gray, she has a daughter on the 1900 census Linnie Gray, born 3/1890, Kentucky, her father is from Kentucky, mother NC. Two other Gardners buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Tunica, Ms. Ruth Leigh Gardner, born 1902, Tunica, died 7/12/1905 (could be daughter of H.A. Gardner and Cora) Herman Aubrey Gardner, b. 11/17, 1878, died Tunica, 7/12/1905. I think he is the husband of Cora Gardner. I also have an Alexander Gardner that appears on the obit for my ggrandfather John Wimbish Henderson in Tunica in 1933, as nephew. I'm open to any suggestions. Vicki

I really don't know, should have added that his ancestor of Thomas Gardner was passed down from notes of my Great-Grandfather. Thanks for the information

Hi All I am looking for any info on my Gardner family in Scotland. Francis Gardner b. 1831 Newton, Lanarkshire m. Janet Steven Whyte b. 12 Oct 1834, married in Cambuslang, Lanark on 24 Oct 1856. Samuel b. 27 Nov 1856 James Whyte b. 26 Sep 1858 Francis b. 16 Jan 1861 John W. b. 22 Oct 1863 Elizabeth Sommerville b. 25 Feb 1866 William b. 29 Apr 1868 After the death of Janet, Francis went on to marry Martha Marshall 30 Dec 1870 in Rutherglen, Lanark Jennie Wright Martha Marshall Magdelene b. 09 Sep 1871 Annie b. 17 Nov 1873 Alexander b. 01 Aug 1877 Samuel b. 1881 John W. immigrated to Yale Kansas, followed by Alexander. Does anyone know this family? Thanks -- KATE Indiana, USA Surname Aitken in Ayrshire: http://www.ayrshireroots.com/Genealogy/Surnames/Aitken/Aitken.htm

During there research has any body run into a JOSEPH GARDNER b- March 17, 1774. MA. (probably Boston). Was a seagoing man, had his own ship. Was a descendant of Thomas Gardner of Cape Ann who arrived abord the Zouch Phenix in 1624. Joseph was kin to a General Putnam. I have found a Joseph Gardner in the vital records in Salem, MA. for a christening dated 1 May 1774 and the mother name was Abigail, no father's name, could have been my Joseph. Joseph is my brick wall. All help will be appreciated.

At 11:32 PM 6/13/01 -0600, you wrote: >Well, I feel really bad, being left out just 'cause my Gardner is from Maine and not North Carolina. I will, I suspicion that this is a great big possibility. *grin* They do seem to come from MA down South.

Joan, Mine are from N.J. but where they were before 1779 is beyond me. Anyone missing a CHARLES GARDNER b. 7/9/1779, ????? records say N.J., but I cant find him anywhere , He did die in N,J on 1/17/1863. and married Lydia Whitcraft [ Flitcraft] in 1800, Mount Holly, Burlington Co. N.J. and sired 12 little GARDNERS, males named William, Joseph and George later we added some Herberts, but more or less got stuck with the 1st three names.down thru the years, Lydia was first generation from England, was CHARLES???? Is anyone missing in your Gardner line ???? Help !!! Gerri Gardner Sage in N.J.

I have Leonard Gardner b. 1784-6 in either Maryland or Pennsylvania, m. Margaret Carnes 1812 in Loudoun Co. VA, moved to Ohio (Belmont, Morgan, Hocking, Vinton Cos.). Have information on several generations of his children. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [GARDNER] GARDNER/S > I was wondering after watching all this about the Gardners coming from the > South, that some of the Gardners did originate from the North, Gardners were > from NY, PA, RI, and Vt, the Gardners I am researching were from NY and PA. > Does anyone have any information on the Gardners from the North? > > Thank you, > Joan > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Joan, I descend from John GARDNER m. Nancy THORNTON from Centre County, PA. John and Nancy emigrated from Ireland, and had the following children: 1. Washington GARDNER, b. 1791 in Cumberland County, PA, d. 1872 in Eagleville, PA. He married Jane AUSTIN. 2. Samuel GARDNER, b. 1794 in PA, d. 9/6/1862 in Centre County, PA. He married Elizabeth LUCAS. 3. William GARDNER, d. 11/23/1833 in Howard Twp., Centre County, PA. 4. James GARDNER. He married Rebecca MEYERS. 5. Jane GARDNER. 6. Ephriam GARDNER. He married (1) Hannah AUSTIN and (2) Catherine EATON. 7. John GARDNER. I descend from the Washington GARDNER line above, and have much information on this line. Would love to share research! Scott [email protected] Parkland, FL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fw: [GARDNER] GARDNER/S I was wondering after watching all this about the Gardners coming from the South, that some of the Gardners did originate from the North, Gardners were from NY, PA, RI, and Vt, the Gardners I am researching were from NY and PA. Does anyone have any information on the Gardners from the North? Thank you, Joan ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Joan, My Grandfather William A. Gardner lived in Amsterdam, NY then moved to Bronx, NY. I can't seem to find any info on him. He was born 4/20/1871, was a Spanish American War veteran and died 3/7/1949. I know nothing about his parents. I like to hear from some Northern Gardners to hopefully find a connection. Susan Gardner Federico At 09:37 AM 6/14/2001 EDT, you wrote: >I was wondering after watching all this about the Gardners coming from the >South, that some of the Gardners did originate from the North, Gardners were >from NY, PA, RI, and Vt, the Gardners I am researching were from NY and PA. >Does anyone have any information on the Gardners from the North? > >Thank you, >Joan > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

It still amazes me that there were only 9 generations in the first 300 years of my Gardner line in America (averaging more that 30 years apart, spanning 300 years in fewer generations than fingers on a pair of hands. Half again longer than the age of USA at the time. I have ridden with 5 generations of this Gardner family all on horseback in a parade in the mid 1990s. Just double that many generations takes us back 300 years! Amazing!!!

I was wondering after watching all this about the Gardners coming from the South, that some of the Gardners did originate from the North, Gardners were from NY, PA, RI, and Vt, the Gardners I am researching were from NY and PA. Does anyone have any information on the Gardners from the North? Thank you, Joan