Do you know how they traveled to Oregon from Iowa? I wonder if they used a covered wagon or horseback only or foot and horseback and whether they came along the Oregon Trail or some other way and what kind of group they traveled in, whether it was a family group or neighbors or religious group or group of land seekers or health oasis seekers and what part of Oregon they first arrived in and whether they settled there or moved on and settled elsewhere, or continued to move place to place until they could no longer move westward because of the land's end. It seems remarkable that people in my family were still traveling with covered wagon in the 1900s. One of my relatives migrated westward in 1910 with a covered wagon (not a Calistoga) with her mother, her aunt and her siblings. (No men!) My Gardners appear to have moved toward the outward fringes of "civilization," basically westward, from the time they left England until they arrived at Land's End on the west coast of America. It seems that that tendency is still "in the blood" of the local Gardners, and that when they find themselves in an undesirable social situation, they tend to "move on" Muriah _____ westlund wrote: > Jay Wallace Gardner b. Weston, Oregon 1884 was the son of Eugene F. Gardner b. 1845 in Maine. > Eugene F. Gardner born in Maine, was raised in Walworth Co., Wisc. He enlisted in 1862 as a private in Co. D 20th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry, before his 17th birthday. He fought at Prairie Grove, Vicksburg, Atchafalaya River, Fort Morgan, Spanish Fort, VanBuren, Yazoo City and Meadowville. He was discharged at Galveston, Texas in July 1865. > After the war he returned home and married Lucy Jane Wheeler. They spent some time in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa before moving to Oregon in 1873. > [email protected] > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Hi Everyone, We are new to the list & after seeing all the John Gardner's, thought we might as well add another one. My wife's great grandfather, John W? Gardner was born 6 Aug 1843 in OH?, died 17 Dec 1884 probably Pulaski Co MO. John's birth & death dates were given to us by a lady who has probably since passed away. No idea where she got them. John married Catherine Justice in Harrison Co Mo, 11 April 1867. The 1870 Census for that county shows John born in IL. The 1880 census shows him born in OH. We tend to lean towards the Oh birth. My wife was always told that the Gardners were to poor to own anything, yet one of the first records I found was Land Records. John & Catherine owned land just south of New Hampton Harrison Co Mo. The family story is that John had TB & they were told that there was an Indian in Pulaski Co Mo who could cure any illness. So John & Catherine sold their land & loaded all the kids including a new born into a covered wagon & headed for Pulaski Co MO. We have no proof that John ever got to Pulaski Co Mo, but one of his daughters was married there so we have every reason to believe that he did, & is buried there. As usual, the courthouse burned so no records. John & Catherine had 8 children: Mary Adaline "Molly", b-1868 Harrison Co, Married #1 James W Cotten, #2 William Riley Cox, Clarissa Belle, b-1870 Harrison Co, married #1 Frank Marion Williams in Pulaski Co MO., #2 Charles Perry Carson, Jane E., b-1872 Harrison Co Mo., married her sister Clarissa's first husband Frank Marion Williams, Samuel O. (my wife's grandfather) b-1874, Harrison Co, married Anna Marie Norris, Isadera "Dora", b-1877 Harrison Co, Married Peter Rudolph Cook, Maggy E. b-1878, Harrison Co. (no other info), Nettie, b-1880 Harrison Co, married Louis A Kidd, Florence D., b-1883, Harrison Co, married James Lanely. After John died, the family moved to Jefferson Co Mo., (DeSota) to work for the RR. Catherine later married Sanders Stewart & they had 1 child, Sanders Paul Stewart. My wife & I are so hopeful that someone on this list will recognize this info. Don & Patsy Bethard [email protected]

At 07:28 PM 6/14/01 -0700, muriah wrote: >What are the Names of your Gardners on the southern Oregon coast? >What dates? >Where? >Muriah > >PS...... >Isn't it true that the information that we provide in these messages >remains available in the archives to be researched for years? >I am currently contacting people who wrote rootsweb messages a year or two >ago regarding the westward journey of our ancestors. >It seems, the more details of data that we provide in these messages >(especially names and dates and places) the better. Hi, everybody: Yes, it is true that all messages are archived "forever" on the RootsWeb servers. So it is an excellent idea, for that reason as well as many others, to include as much relevant information as possible. For the good of the list, though, we should all try to avoid copying more than is required to identify the topic, when we *reply* to a message. But in that case too, one should try not to be TOO cryptic. "Sally, yes" wouldn't help the rest of us, who may be interested, very much <grin>! The URLs for the two different archives are For interactive search (word or phrase) http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl For threaded search (follow a conversation) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ In case you are interested, e-mail addresses in the archives are encrypted or recreated on the fly (the two archives use different methods, and I don't recall which is which) to avoid spammers being able to harvest subscribers for their own "evil" purposes. This is true both of addresses in the headers and those typed in the body of a message. However, the addresses are visible normally when viewed through a browser. Hope this helps, Darrell Admin for VTGEN, VTCALEDO, VTLAMOIL, VTORANGE, VTWINDSO, MANORFOL, F.ELCH, F.ORBUSH, G.ARDNER, H.ARTWELL, H.ULBERT, L.AMSON, L.OWER, N.ELSON, R.OUSSEAU, R.USSEAU -- [email protected]

It's still wet and dreary.

Jay Wallace Gardner b. Weston, Oregon 1884 was the son of Eugene F. Gardner b. 1845 in Maine. Eugene F. Gardner born in Maine, was raised in Walworth Co., Wisc. He enlisted in 1862 as a private in Co. D 20th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry, before his 17th birthday. He fought at Prairie Grove, Vicksburg, Atchafalaya River, Fort Morgan, Spanish Fort, VanBuren, Yazoo City and Meadowville. He was discharged at Galveston, Texas in July 1865. After the war he returned home and married Lucy Jane Wheeler. They spent some time in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa before moving to Oregon in 1873. [email protected]

Gerri, You wouldn't be a Mass. Gardner by any chance? I have a cousin that I met a few times as a child and I remember her as Gerri. Anyone have any info on Richard Gardner, (Gerri's Dad) son of Arthur Gardner. Billerica, Mass.?

I am still looking for William Bell Gardner and Robert Lee Gardner's parents. William Bell Gardner was born in 1862 in Kentucky and married June 22, 1884 to Charlotte Sorena Bogard in Lafayette County, Mississippi. They had three children and lived in Calhoun Co. Ms. for about 8 or 9 years. Aaron was born in 1885 in Pittsboro, Calhoun Co. Ms. Lavena was born in 1887and May was born in 1889 both girls was also borned in Pittsboro, Calhoun Co. Ms. then probably Charlotte died in childbirth, so William Bell packed children and moved west to Comanche, Comanche Co. Texas where he married Emma Alice Smith on Jan. 18, 1896 and had nine more children. He died 1932 in Freestone Co. Texas. Can someone help us? Robert Lee Gardner was born abt 1865 in Kentucky, married Sue Bogard on June 22, 1884 in Lafayette Co. Ms. They had Ruth Pearl, John Y. Arch Lee, Seneth, Otis, Vera and Gover. They moved to Texas in 1895. Can some one help? Sue Hickman [email protected] Belinda Pierce-----------wdcraver'[email protected]

Where was your John Gardner born? There were so many John Gardners. muriah wrote: > I am the 4th Generation descendant of the Gardner of my line who was > born in North Carolina, in 1805. > He, John Lucian Gardner, was the 6th Generation descendant of the 1623 > Immigrant Richard Gardner. > > Richard Gardner was an immigrant youth, accompanying his family from > England to Cape Ann with a group sent (sailing on the Zuch Phenix) to > establish the colony. His father, Thomas Gardner, was commissioned, as > "The Planter," to oversee the growing of provisions for the new fishing > colony said to be intended for delivery of fish early in the season for > the benefit of the business enterprise of England. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

In 1850 they were in Madison Co., and in 1860 they were in Hancock Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: "muriah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] More Indiana Gardners > where in Indiana? > > Phyllis Bell wrote: > > > Here are my Indiana Gardners: > > > > 1 Abner GARDNER, b. ca 1822, d. Mar 1894 > > + Mary Ann COTTRELL, b. May 1824 > > 2 Susannah GARDNER, b. ca 1843 in IN > > 2 Delilah GARDNER, b. ca 1845 in IN > > 2 Abraham C. GARDNER, b. ca 1846, d. 1919 > > + Nancy C. STINSON > > 2 Hester Jane GARDNER, b. ca 1847 in IN > > 2 Elijah J. GARDNER, b. ca 1851 in IN > > 2 Mary Eliza GARDNER, b. ca 1853 in IN > > 2 Lydia GQRDNER, b. ca 1855 in IN > > 2 Samuel P. GARDNER, b. ca 1857 in IN > > 2 Rhoda M. GARDNER, b. Dec 1859 in IN, > > m. 20 Nov 1880, d. 11 Sep 1920 > > + Eli BARCUS > > 2 Margaet L,. GARDNER, b. 1862, d. 1935 > > + Absolom BEAVER > > 2 Sarah GARDNER, b. 1864 > > 2 Elias A. GARDNER, b. 1865, d. 1922 > > 2 Elmer L. GARDNER, b. 1866, d. 1929 > > + Carrie T. OLVEY > > > > Good luck in your Gardner searches! > > Phyllis in east central Illinois > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Hello folks, Well, I am feeling a little left out so I thought I might just ask a question of all those Gardners in the States; does anybody have a branch of the family from Kent, England?......... time period around 1820 to 1920, if so please contact me and make my day. Yours from cold Glasgow,Scotland.

Marilynn, Can folks whose Gardners moved down the Dan river into North Carolina in the late 1800s play? My wife's family descends from Nathaniel Gardner and settled in Rockingham and Guilford counties over the period 1880 to 1895. There's a bunch of them in NC now. Thanks, Jim Winfrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilynn Masten" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [GARDNER] NC GARDNER - Generations Removed > Muriah asks the line of migration of my Gardner family. Showed up here in > the 1770s and never left. Oh, some leaked over into SC. Had two great-grands > and a great-great in the War between the States. I have so many cousins > here, I can't count them. > > Others ask about limiting this to Southern Gardners. I am opening a big > enough can of worms as it is. WE'll get to the others later. > > Now, I suggest we each choose a given name and collect every southern > Gardner we are sent with that given name and see if we can untangle said can > of worms. I will take "William" as he is my first known ancestor in the > family. Somebody offered to take John. Someone else take James, Lewis, > Jeremiah, Thomas, etc. > > I will collect all of the William Gardners went to me who first show up in > Va. and all points southof min. A great-great uncle, DAvid, went to Miss. > That much I know. I will then try to put them into some kind of order > because often I hear from someone looking for a certain Gardner who is not > one of mine and I haven't saved other messages that would have provided > connections. > > Marilynn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "muriah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:40 PM > Subject: [GARDNER] NC GARDNER - Generations Removed > > > > Marilynn, > > I am eager to hear descendent of NC Gardners to indicate their line of > > migration since and whether your own Gardner family line stayed through > > the Civil War to date. > > Muriah > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

What part of Indiana? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Bell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: [GARDNER] More Indiana Gardners > Here are my Indiana Gardners: > > 1 Abner GARDNER, b. ca 1822, d. Mar 1894 > + Mary Ann COTTRELL, b. May 1824 > 2 Susannah GARDNER, b. ca 1843 in IN > 2 Delilah GARDNER, b. ca 1845 in IN > 2 Abraham C. GARDNER, b. ca 1846, d. 1919 > + Nancy C. STINSON > 2 Hester Jane GARDNER, b. ca 1847 in IN > 2 Elijah J. GARDNER, b. ca 1851 in IN > 2 Mary Eliza GARDNER, b. ca 1853 in IN > 2 Lydia GQRDNER, b. ca 1855 in IN > 2 Samuel P. GARDNER, b. ca 1857 in IN > 2 Rhoda M. GARDNER, b. Dec 1859 in IN, > m. 20 Nov 1880, d. 11 Sep 1920 > + Eli BARCUS > 2 Margaet L,. GARDNER, b. 1862, d. 1935 > + Absolom BEAVER > 2 Sarah GARDNER, b. 1864 > 2 Elias A. GARDNER, b. 1865, d. 1922 > 2 Elmer L. GARDNER, b. 1866, d. 1929 > + Carrie T. OLVEY > > Good luck in your Gardner searches! > Phyllis in east central Illinois > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Thurs.6/14 Gardner List: Sending this out again! Hard to believe no substantive responses!! > > To the two Marilyns, Muriah, Charles, Mike...or other Gardners, > > With all of you and your queries re Thomas etal, I must sign in at this > appropriate time and tell you that my earliest GARDNER descendant is > Thomas, b circa 1811, possibly in Germantown, New York. He had 7 > children: Leonard; William, who died in Civil War; Martha; Mary; Ida; > Emma; and my GrGrGrandfather, Charles H. GARDNER, b ca 1828. > > Charles Gardner m. Catherine SCISM GARDNER. They had 10 children: > Wesley; Charles; Frank; Hannah; Elizabeth; Carrie; Minnie; Maude; Emma; > and my GrGrandfather Virgil GARDNER, b 1852. > > Virgil H.GARDNER m. Mary Elizabeth Rifenburgh GARDNER. They had one > child, my Grandmother, Stella Margaret GARDNER, b 1883. Virgil was Town > Clerk, Tivoli,NY, before he died ca 1908. > > I have made no connections beyond Thomas, but most of these relatives > seem to have lived a good deal of their lives in Columbia or Dutchess > Counties, New York. Thomas' wife, I believe, was Hannah Elizabeth HOVER > and they are both my "dead-ends". > > I also have surnames of many of the above siblings, but nothing that has > helped me...unless I do not know where to look...the most likely answer. > > I have Hunt's book on Town of Clermont, & it says that Virgil GARDNER > lived in a house built by Thomas GARDNER and that the house was a > milestone, 111 miles from New York! No dates. I have Henry Jones' two > volumes on Palatine families, Arthur Kelly's Settlers & Residents series > on Clermont & Germantown and Chuck Rivenburgh's book on descendants of > the Reiffenberg Family...and still am missing the "GARDNER connection". > Before the 'Net, I'd thought it to be an English name...but most of my > paternal surnames are German or Dutch. > > Forgive me for rambling a bit, but it appears this group is highly > active & informed!! In the one & a half years I've been online, I have > come across two distant cousins with GARDNER ties, but nothing beyond > Thomas. The LDS & Ancestry.com sites have come up zeros. I'd appreciate > even one little clue. IF..I have anything to share, I will! Thanks. > > Lynn Gardner Miller > > Marilyn R Otterson wrote: > > > > Just want to mention that not all of Thomas "the Planter" Gardner's > > descendents went to the south in the Revolution. Some went to Maine, > > mine in particular. > > > > Marilyn in NH > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

My Gardner chain also starts in Maine. My great grandfather was born in Bangor, Maine about 1885. He was living in Hibbing, Minnesota by 1920. Bert married Marina (Marie) Lacomb about 1920 or early 1921. From 1921 to 1924 they had three children together. Rumor has it they had a few more after that too. I'm trying to find Bert's parents or any family members or children. Any help would be great. Kimberly Sandquist

Here are my Indiana Gardners: 1 Abner GARDNER, b. ca 1822, d. Mar 1894 + Mary Ann COTTRELL, b. May 1824 2 Susannah GARDNER, b. ca 1843 in IN 2 Delilah GARDNER, b. ca 1845 in IN 2 Abraham C. GARDNER, b. ca 1846, d. 1919 + Nancy C. STINSON 2 Hester Jane GARDNER, b. ca 1847 in IN 2 Elijah J. GARDNER, b. ca 1851 in IN 2 Mary Eliza GARDNER, b. ca 1853 in IN 2 Lydia GQRDNER, b. ca 1855 in IN 2 Samuel P. GARDNER, b. ca 1857 in IN 2 Rhoda M. GARDNER, b. Dec 1859 in IN, m. 20 Nov 1880, d. 11 Sep 1920 + Eli BARCUS 2 Margaet L,. GARDNER, b. 1862, d. 1935 + Absolom BEAVER 2 Sarah GARDNER, b. 1864 2 Elias A. GARDNER, b. 1865, d. 1922 2 Elmer L. GARDNER, b. 1866, d. 1929 + Carrie T. OLVEY Good luck in your Gardner searches! Phyllis in east central Illinois

This is the only John Lucian Gardner that I have ever seen listed anywhere. He is usually referred to as "John Lucian" ... sorta like using the names Billy Bob or Judy Mae. I have been told that that was how people used his name in his day, as well. He was born in 1805 in Deep River, Guilford, NC ______ Betty & Del Meischen wrote: > Where was your John Gardner born? There were so many John Gardners. > > muriah wrote: > > > I am the 4th Generation descendant of the Gardner of my line who was > > born in North Carolina, in 1805. > > He, John Lucian Gardner, was the 6th Generation descendant of the 1623 > > Immigrant Richard Gardner. > > > > Richard Gardner was an immigrant youth, accompanying his family from > > England to Cape Ann with a group sent (sailing on the Zuch Phenix) to > > establish the colony. His father, Thomas Gardner, was commissioned, as > > "The Planter," to oversee the growing of provisions for the new fishing > > colony said to be intended for delivery of fish early in the season for > > the benefit of the business enterprise of England. > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I have an Abraham or Abram Gardner born in Suffolk England in 1810 Thats as close as I get Michelle in Michigan

Seanette, no offense, but why in the world would anyone move to Coos Bay......WEST AND DREARY. My family originally set up shop around Weston, Oregon, near Pendleton. No, I can't find any of their names on the Oregon Trail "register" however, my grandfather, Jay Wallace Gardner was born in Weston, Oregon 1884. [email protected] you might want to include you email address.

Searching for the family of Rhodes Gardner, b. July 20, 1770, in New York, married Lydia Bates, b. Mar 10, 1776 in Vermont. They had 14 children , all but last two were born in NY. last two were born in PA, most likely. The family settled in Hardin County, Ohio. Caleb Gardner was the first Cooper in Patterson, Ohio, Hardin County. He was born Dec 19, 1813. He married Mary Ann Clark and they had 4 children. Edmund G. Gardner was my husband's gggrandfather. He married Amelia Pearson and they had 5 children. Charles D. was my husband's grandfather. He married Ella Belle Holden and they had 7 children. Anyone with info can contact me directly, [email protected] Gladys Nelson Gardner

Is Jay Wallace Gardner in 1884 the earliest date of your Gardners in Oregon? (Some people moved to Coos Bay to be at the bay) Muriah ______ westlund wrote: > Seanette, no offense, but why in the world would anyone move to Coos Bay......WEST AND DREARY. My family originally set up shop around Weston, Oregon, near Pendleton. No, I can't find any of their names on the Oregon Trail "register" however, my grandfather, Jay Wallace Gardner was born in Weston, Oregon 1884. [email protected] you might want to include you email address. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp